coogar:


obviously, rooney is the elephant in the room. it's a travesty that herrera, mata & schneiderlin aren't starters week in week out. moyes' disgraceful contract is the cause of this but then there's nothing we can do unless we pray he gets flattened by mangala next week.

Mangala should flatten him at the 90' after we must have won.

sinizia:


Mangala should flatten him at the 90' after we must have won.

haha.....not fair!

the most amazing thing is rooney @19 was at least 5 times better than the current anthony martial. i saw the 04/05 season review this afternoon and i coulda put my house & life on the line that rooney would win 4 ballon d'or awards by the time he clocks 29.

rooney's decline should be investigated by INTERPOL!

ElFenomeno1:
Retar ded and imbecilic scummies who keep waving new league new challenge crusade to cover Depaynaldo's back side...
I hope you saw another stellar performance from Giorgino Wijnaldum.
In a crappy Newcastle side he has turned up almost week in week out... he was in the same bloody Dutch league last season and didn't so as much as Depay.
I wonder why he isnt struggling

Wijnaldum is a good player. He won the best dutch player award last season. There must be a reason depay was not given that award. Now we could see it with our own eyes. Its a bitter pill to swallow for red devils faithfuls. merefish is fatigued in his new aquatic habitat of epl, while his brother wijnaldum has hit the ground running. May be man utd will need to declare the whole of manchester city depay's own before he starts playing well.

ElFenomeno1:
Retar ded and imbecilic scummies who keep waving new league new challenge crusade to cover Depaynaldo's back side...
I hope you saw another stellar performance from Giorgino Wijnaldum.
In a crappy Newcastle side he has turned up almost week in week out... he was in the same bloody Dutch league last season and didn't so as much as Depay.
I wonder why he isnt struggling

Another example is Martial who has also hit the ground runnin in the EPL. If Di Maria could get benched then who is Depay?? So, u win! Depay is shít! Can u quit making noise abt Depay now??

coogar:


haha.....not fair!

the most amazing thing is rooney @19 was at least 5 times better than the current anthony martial. i saw the 04/05 season review this afternoon and i coulda put my house & life on the line that rooney would win 4 ballon d'or awards by the time he clocks 29.

rooney's decline should be investigated by INTERPOL!

Rooney's decline was caused by the hype English press gave him plus the excess cheddah that was paid to him at a very young age. He got carried away and never worked hard to achieve his full potentials. In this age, footballers are after the fame and money rather than allowing their goals and outputs elevate their status and value.

sinizia:


Rooney's decline was caused by the hype English press gave him plus the excess cheddah that was paid to him at a very young age. He got carried away and never worked hard to achieve his full potentials. In this age, footballers are after the fame and money rather than allowing their goals and outputs elevate their status and value.

ronaldo, messi, robben, etc

they all got better as they aged. robben @30 outpaced sergio ramos who is very quick. when rooney & ronaldo were 19, no one in the world would compare ronaldo to rooney as wazza was clearly the better player as at then.

all of a sudden, ronaldo just overtook rooney & left him for dead. ronaldo has broken madrid's goal scoring record already, it took him just 6 seasons. rooney is still panting to break bobby charlton's record and this is his 12th season.

sinizia:


Mangala should flatten him at the 90' after we must have won.

Jones has a better chance of doing that. You can just let it slip that a certain reward awaits him if he could take Wele out during training


This Burnthisleaguedown is really useless. There's no competition at all. Bayern is leading with 7 points already and have conceded just 4 goals in 9 matches.

In Spain nos 1 - 3 are on 18 points and the 4th team lags by just 2 points. There's some form of competition in other top leagues as well except the Bundesliga. However Mr. ramudeen won't let us hear word about this yeye league and brags like a drunk local champion. SMH

airmark:


You said carzola won it twice so its not credible , you read my response and disappeared like a fart cos i told you non-arsenal players have won it even when arsenal players were nominated. My response made you look like a f00l, i proved it that you had a senseless point. My parents are proud of me, i wont abuse your parents cos you have none.

you are a tool and only your parents could be proud of your unthinking ass.
What is not credible about facts? Cazorla won it twice, Fact. You are a waste of space,dude.

Leyqute:


Jones has a better chance of doing that. You can just let it slip that a certain reward awaits him if he could take Wele out during training


This Burnthisleaguedown is really useless. There's no competition at all. Bayern is leading with 7 points already and have conceded just 4 goals in 9 matches.

In Spain nos 1 - 3 are on 18 points and the 4th team lags by just 2 points. There's some form of competition in other top leagues as well except the Bundesliga. However Mr. ramudeen won't let us hear word about this yeye league and brags like a drunk local champion. SMH

i agree the quality of the opposition in bundesliga is weak but then bayern can only play what is put in front of them. bayern are leading with 7 points, right?

then arsenal should be the litmus test. if bayern wipes the toilet floor with arsenal in both legs, what would you infer? that bayern are shyte or arsenal are wack?

airmark:



Wijnaldum is a good player. He won the best dutch player award last season. There must be a reason depay was not given that award. Now we could see it with our own eyes. Its a bitter pill to swallow for red devils faithfuls. merefish is fatigued in his new aquatic habitat of epl, while his brother wijnaldum has hit the ground running. May be man utd will need to declare the whole of manchester city depay's own before he starts playing well.

AdeLaNa1:
Another example is Martial who has also hit the ground runnin in the EPL. If Di Maria could get benched then who is Depay?? So, u win! Depay is shít! Can u quit making noise abt Depay now??

Not yet. Not till Coogar admit he is struggling.

sinizia:


Rooney's decline was caused by the hype English press gave him plus the excess cheddah that was paid to him at a very young age. He got carried away and never worked hard to achieve his full potentials. In this age, footballers are after the fame and money rather than allowing their goals and outputs elevate their status and value.

Nope! His technique was simply not good enough, even at a young age!
The young Rooney was able to get away with this because he was explosive, agile, strong and fearless however such agility and pace has deteriorated so quick and this has led to low confidence in his dribbling!

coogar:


ronaldo, messi, robben, etc

they all got better as they aged. robben @30 outpaced sergio ramos who is very quick. when rooney & ronaldo were 19, no one in the world would compare ronaldo to rooney as wazza was clearly the better player as at then.

all of a sudden, ronaldo just overtook rooney & left him for dead. ronaldo has broken madrid's goal scoring record already, it took him just 6 seasons. rooney is still panting to break bobby charlton's record and this is his 12th season.

Talent wise Rooney was no better than Ronaldo at young age!
The only reason Rooney shone more than Ronaldo when they first arrived at man'utd was because he's always had a good football brain and matured head over his shoulder than Ronaldo did at young age!
His decision making and link-up play were quite better at a young age as opposed to a certain young Ronaldo who was all about head-down dribbling with no ends product whatsoever!

Kagawa10:

Talent wise Rooney was no better than Ronaldo at young age!

rooney definitely was the better talent in the first 2 years at united. he was explosive, rapid with loads of verve & panache. when rooney got the ball then(and he demanded it a lot from his teammates), you know something is about to happen.

his first big game was what woulda been arsenal's 50th unbeaten game. rooney scored one and assisted one. it was all about him that day. young rooney was extremely fearless - he bullied the entire arsenal defence that day.

The only reason Rooney shone more than Ronaldo when they first arrived at man'utd was because he's always had a good football brain and matured head over his shoulder than Ronaldo did at young age!

i agree with this.....
ronaldo was all about showboating in his first few years. he thought he could dribble 11 players all by himself & score. roy keane was always on his case.....

His decision making and link-up play were quite better at a young age as opposed to a certain young Ronaldo who was all about head-down dribbling with no ends product whatsoever!

exactly!
the better talent is the one that lifts his head up and pings a pass others cannot see. ronaldo definitely had the tools but he failed to use any of them appropriately. he shot when passing was the right option, he passed when shooting was the right option.

it was after the world cup drama ronaldo became a man. he was the #1 public enemy in the UK & trust SAF to capitalise on that to create a siege mentality. same ish happened to beckham after france 98 & SAF revved beckham up to become the 2nd best player in europe.

coogar:


haha.....not fair!

the most amazing thing is rooney @19 was at least 5 times better than the current anthony martial. i saw the 04/05 season review this afternoon and i coulda put my house & life on the line that rooney would win 4 ballon d'or awards by the time he clocks 29.

rooney's decline should be investigated by INTERPOL!

I disagree!
At a young age, Rooney was just Walcott 2 but with a good football brain!
I could still remember a young Walcott marking his debut in England team with an hat-trick and was hyped by the media as the best thing since slice bread!
The young Walcott was also phenomenal for Arsenal at the start until he was found out as the dead brain footballer he is!
Now imagine a young Walcott with a fantastic football brain, that is who a young Rooney was!
Martial on the other hand has the fantastic techniques to back up his physical attributes (pace, agility and physique). He also got good football head on his shoulder!
The only thing Martial lacks is the experience compared to Rooney who was already a seasonal pro at 17yrs!

Kagawa10:

I disagree!
At a young age, Rooney was just Walcott 2 but with a good football brain!
I could still remember a young Walcott marking his debut in England team with an hat-trick and was hyped by the media as the best thing since slice bread!
The young Walcott was also phenomenal for Arsenal at the start until he was found out as the dead brain footballer he is!
Now imagine a young Walcott with a fantastic football brain, that is who a young Rooney was!
Martial on the other hand has the fantastic techniques to back up his physical attributes (pace, agility and physique). He also got good football head on his shoulder!
The only thing Martial lacks is the experience compared to Rooney who was already a seasonal pro at 17yrs!

please don't make me laugh....

theo walcott? his development was longer then the exodus of jews to canaan. walcott spent 6 years at arsenal without any growth. he's by far the slowest player to develop that i have seen in the last 50 years.

at 18, rooney went to euro 2004 and he bullied defenders. if he didn't injure himself in the q/finals against portugal, rooney woulda won that match for england. rooney was too good in his teenage years. he had everything. power, pace, panache & he was constantly angry.

the anger always had him on the edge & when he relied purely on instinct, he was a very dangerous player. he was the heartbeat of the english squad at 18. he stopped the first arsenal's unbeaten run at 17 & he was also the mastermind that scuppered the 49th unbeaten run at 19.

abeg rooney @19 was far far better than this current martial.....

SailorXY:
he's the only guy who get dropped after a good performance. It's bullshit!
He rarely has a bad game when fit, as a matter of fact I can count how many he's had on one hand since he arrived here.

We all the reason ; 'cos my captain must play' philosophy.

coogar:


please don't make me laugh....

theo walcott? his development was longer then the exodus of jews to canaan. walcott spent 6 years at arsenal without any growth. he's by far the slowest player to develop that i have seen in the last 50 years.

at 18, rooney went to euro 2004 and he bullied defenders. if he didn't injure himself in the q/finals against portugal, rooney woulda won that match for england. rooney was too good in his teenage years. he had everything. power, pace, panache & he was constantly angry.

the anger always had him on the edge & when he relied purely on instinct, he was a very dangerous player. he was the heartbeat of the english squad at 18. he stopped the first arsenal's unbeaten run at 17 & he was also the mastermind of the 49th unbeaten run at 19.

abeg rooney @19 was far far better than this current martial.....

I agree completely with these points you just made! When he was @ everton he was still a bit raw but by the time is saw wazza @ euro 2004, it was a fantastic transformation! I'm actually 1 of the few people who believed that if he had not gotten injured in that tournament he would have led england to the semis @ least! Remember his debut hat trick for united sef and his goal against newcastle that season? The "volley of doom"! _fucking hell!

He played that tournament by following his own tactical instructions, through link up play, tireless running, ripping shots, bullying defenders, headers etc. I think that fire that fergie calmed in him has made him a poorer player but a more mature 1! Its safe to say that rooneys best years are behind him! He had a good run at the top though! To ME he is a LEGEND @ united anyway!

coogar:


please don't make me laugh....

theo walcott? his development was longer then the exodus of jews to canaan. walcott spent 6 years at arsenal without any growth. he's by far the slowest player to develop that i have seen in the last 50 years.

at 18, rooney went to euro 2004 and he bullied defenders. if he didn't injure himself in the q/finals against portugal, rooney woulda won that match for england. rooney was too good in his teenage years. he had everything. power, pace, panache & he was constantly angry.

the anger always had him on the edge & when he relied purely on instinct, he was a very dangerous player. he was the heartbeat of the english squad at 18. he stopped the first arsenal's unbeaten run at 17 & he was also the mastermind of the 49th unbeaten run at 19.

abeg rooney @19 was far far better than this current martial.....

The only thing that differentiate the young Rooney from Theo Walcott is the football brain! More reason Walcott is doing better at a striker role where he only have to think about scoring than the wing!
Did you remember Walcott performance in a striker role in Arsenal 5-2 win over Chelsea years ago? He ran the likes of Terry to ground with his pace and quick feets! Nobody could touch him in that game, He was like Messi on the pitch!
I still wondered why Wenger continued to move him back to the wing after a good performance in the central role until this season!
It's quite glaring that even though Walcott doesn't have a fantastic technique, his pace and agility makes him a good player! If only he has the football brain to go with it, he would be in the class of Bale and a young Rooney!
The only thing young Rooney had over Martial is the experience and the fearless! He was never composed as Martial on the ball and lost tons of possession due to his erratic poor touch!
Martial touch, control, balance and dribbling are already world-class which Rooney never had!
I will choose Martial over a young Rooney everyday because he has the talent that can cover long period of time as opposed to the 2-3 yrs worth of talent Rooney had! Have you forgotten Rooney started to decline at age 21 and then had another 1 good season after Ronaldo left?
EDITED!

the thing is...Rooney's role in the team has changed over the years. he's now much more of a team player than a goalscorer & LvG his current boss likes his role in the team. of course we, the fans would rather have a forward scoring goals than playing linking passes or defending but as far as the whole team is scoring goals & we're getting points we need. I think at the end of the day we'd be smiling.

Kagawa10:

The only thing that differentiate the young Rooney from Theo Walcott is the football brain!

More reason Walcott is doing better at a striker role where he only have to think about scoring than the wing!
Did you remember Walcott performance in a striker role in Arsenal 5-2 win over Chelsea years ago? He ran the likes of Terry to ground with his pace and quick feets! Nobody could touch him in that game, He was like Messi on the pitch! I still wondered why Wenger continued to move him back to the wing after a good performance in the central role until this season!
It's quite glaring that even though Walcott doesn't have a fantastic technique, his pace and agility makes him a good player! If only he has the football brain to go with it, he would be in the class of Bale and a young Rooney!

i take it that you underestimate the football brain. simply put - it is what differentiates the world class players from the mediocre ones.

@Kagawa10, football brain is the football itself. The difference between a Quaresma and a Messi
The disappointment fans got from Nani and Januzaj.

coogar:


i take it that you underestimate the football brain. simply put - it is what differentiates the world class players from the mediocre ones.

Rooney's football brain isn't the best though!
Let's not make it as if his intelligence was out of the world!
That said, I have edited my previous post!

leggo:

you are a tool and only your parents could be proud of your unthinking ass.
What is not credible about facts? Cazorla won it twice, Fact. You are a waste of space,dude.

Adelana1, can you please fling this bastard outta my view like LVG signaled to giggs on chicharito?

Kagawa10:

Rooney's football brain isn't the best though!
Let's not make it as if his intelligence was out of the world!
That said, I have edited my previous post!

he had a better football brain @19 than he does now. rooney peaked at 20/21, the rest na just hype! his close control at 19 was really good too.......he just lost something along the line. his 2nd metatarsal injury kinda took something from him.

chrisley024:
@Kagawa10, football brain is the football itself. The difference between a Quaresma and a Messi

The problem Nani and Januzaj were having with fans.

Martial is no slouch in that department either!
I would take him over a young Rooney everyday!
Let's not forget Rooney best years was with a worldclass man'utd team that includes Scholes, Giggs, Hagreaves, Tevez and Ronaldo whereas the only player in the class of these players in Martial team is Schweinsteiger!

Kagawa10:


Martial is no slouch in that department either!
I would take him over a young Rooney everyday!
Let's not forget Rooney best years with a worldclass man'utd team that includes Scholes, Giggs, Hagreaves, Tevez and Ronaldo whereas the only player in the class of these players in Martial team is Schweinsteiger!

have you forgotten the kinda goals rooney scored at everton? i am rooney's biggest critic in the world. in his teenage years, he was a super player. the type that would die on the pitch to get a win for his team!

coogar:


he had a better football brain @19 than he does now. rooney peaked at 20/21, the rest na just hype! his close control at 19 was really good too.......he just lost something along the line. his 2nd metatarsal injury kinda took something from him.

His control has never been good! His explosiveness and agility just mask it! same thing as Walcott and Bale!
Even then, I remembered him losing a lot of possession with a touch which was never here or there!
Martial is comfortably better, the only thing he needs is a lot of experience!

coogar:


i agree the quality of the opposition in bundesliga is weak but then bayern can only play what is put in front of them. bayern are leading with 7 points, right?

then arsenal should be the litmus test. if bayern wipes the toilet floor with arsenal in both legs, what would you infer? that bayern are shyte or arsenal are wack?

Even if Arsenal beats Bayern home and away we all know they're a wack team. However if the bundesliga is as competitive as other top leagues in Europe Bayern's UCL success will be greatly affected.

Kagawa10:

His control has never been good! His explosiveness and agility just mask it! same thing as Walcott and Bale!
Even then, I remembered him losing a lot of possession with a touch which was never here or there!
Martial is comfortably better, the only thing he needs is a lot of experience!

without a doubt - rooney has the first touch of clifford orji but then he had the pace & aggression to chase after a mis-controlled ball and win it back.....so the issue didn't really affect his game.

asides that, rooney was exceptionally brilliant. his long range shots were zlatan-esque. he was danger in & out of the box & he constantly made hell out of the lives of defenders.

arsenal fc hated playing against him.

Smalling again! At this rate he'd definitely be in the EPL TOTS.
Schneiderlin bossing his his way into the TOTW too

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