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Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by iguita: 12:39pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
The show is never the same Kayoski: |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by adepiero: 12:40pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
chimkaire:Sadly that is one of the best equipped hospital we have in Nigeria, it won't stop people from going there after all this but maybe they might change the doctors involved |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by InvertedHammer: 12:40pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
/ I have discussed Nigerian doctors at length. I will not again this time because I don't see "most" of them as doctors. I consider them medical technicians. One of my greatest phobia is falling sick in Nigeria. The thought of going to hospital will kill me before I even get there. Most of them are in it for the title. / 2 Likes |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by nervorum: 12:41pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
AbuEzeFemi: So sad.its really unfortunate. Expectedly so many would comment from point of view of ignorance, blaming the young chap on call that day. Rule # 1: do not administer antiemetics for intestinal obstruction, gastric decompression would have saved the day until the attending arrives. Who takes the blame for the outcome of the ill timed events? The young doctor, who would be judged harshly, who was taking instructions from his superior? The consultant general surgeon who probably was not employed full time at d hosp and so did not stay the night, and perhaps was somewhere else in d middle of a procedure? The anaesthesiologist who probably was also not on full time employment who may not also knw if d surgeon would be taking the patient in, who may also be piloting a procedure somewhere or is it the radiologist. I believe if d needed hands were on full time employment, perhaps they would been on ground around that time, especially the surgeon and at least a radiographer. Even at that, there should have been a senior more experienced resident doctor on call to guide and save d day in unexpected cases like this. I think the hospital should take this as an opportunity to review their processes. Does she have a case? Difficult to say, sometimes you need to hear d other party and professionally review the case and what was done to establish negligence. He probably died from aspiration; Mendelson syndrome, due to obstruction, maybe from a previous surgery, maybe from renal complication. Precious to d Lord is d death of a saint. Chaz B imparted lives, he loved d Lord, he lived well, he led a purposeful life. 4 Likes |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by ElPhoche(m): 12:49pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
reflx:My dear, I love the point you just made. People fail to realise that it both a science and art. When you graduate, you start d art. You don't turn good over night. Medicine is a like a mechanic work. Even after gradation, you have to be trained like a mechanic, receiving instructions from your superiors for EVERY case. It is high time people realised that. I don't blame the doctor on call, however, like you said, something similar to Oschner-Sherren's regimen should have been instituted and suspected IO should not be managed as a home case. 3 Likes |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by BTT(m): 12:50pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
May God continually grant us good health and deliver us from health emergencies. Last Friday to 11pm and I met accident victims and crowd shortly before Onipanu Busstop. I offered to help take 3 of the 5 most injured to LUTH. There was only one doctor at the hospital's emergency wing. She was obviously overwhelmed by the various crowds seeking her attention. I had to literally drag her out to my car as one of them was running in and out of comma, with blood gushing from his nose, ears and mouth. She started questioning me, ' who are they to me?' 'who will bear the bills?' who referred them here?...' She went inside and came back to say there were no beds and we should hold on. Forty minutes and we were still waiting (how did I know the time? - I called my wife on entering LUTH gate and when she called back to ask 'How far?' was exactly 35 minutes). Then one of the victims said they were all LUTH medical students. Armed with this noveau info I ran inside again to shout it over and over again to anyone who cared to listen went inand just then one student doctor - I safely assume - came out to see them. We were then referred to an 'Annex' where it took another 'eternity' to have them wheeled to bed. The LORD help us in this land. 4 Likes |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by 9japatroit(m): 12:53pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
I feel like responding to some of the post here to correct some wrong impressions because i have read with utter amazement how some people have accused doctors of causing the death of all their relatives that ever died,even those that had terminal illnesses but on a second thought i think i should let everybody ventilate their anger in times like this.ka chineke mezie okwu. 2 Likes |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by laudate: 12:55pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
BTT: May God Almighty bless you a million times for saving their lives, by rushing them to the hospital in good time. May you never lack help in time of need, for trying to get them medical attention in a critical time. May you always be favoured by heaven and on earth, at all times every single day of your life.... May every good thing that you currently enjoy, never go bad and never cause you sorrow... 6 Likes |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by Codyt(m): 12:56pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
Swissheart:Oh no. Am sorry |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by duduade: 1:02pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
Oduduwaboy: u must be stupid... I have been waiting for your type... did you say rare OCCURENCES?you better go check your brain.. If you think the course you read in school is way better than yours you must be a f.o.o.l... even person wey read yoruba better pass you... what I said was that *Most*.... so if the ones you know belong to that category how e concern us... just the exceptionally talented ones belong to a *few*... 1 Like |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by Nobody: 1:07pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
ChelseaDr: Intestinal obstruction is not out of place in this case. (Post surgery case). Electrolyte imbalance esp hypo K+ can cause obstruction. I only blame the young Dr Kewve for reassuring the patient to go home, that no cause for alram. If I were to be on call, I would have admitted for observation while taking samples for Chemistry having gotten the history of renal transplant. If my senior fells to show up at stipulated time, I will refer them immediately to avoid stain to my hard earn MBBS. I know Dr Kevwe very well while we were in UPTH. But you know how some Private hospital go about their patients.... Esp St Nicholas, they hardly refer cases. 3 Likes |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by TheAlchemist: 1:08pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
After reading all the posts i would like to share a recent experience i had... My son was recently discharged from Lagoon hospital, when i got a call while at home from a doctor to please bring back the medications that they had prescribed for my son (a toddler) because he had reacted severely to one of the drugs in the past.... First thank God for the [b]out of patient medical review system at Lagoon[/b] and also that the Network was available and working and i was able to receive the call... Just imagine what could have happened if we had innocently administer the drugs to my son only for serious issues to start during the night, where do you begin, where do you rush him to.. The drug was replaced with another containing a different formulation.... but there are things i would love to praise Lagoon hospital for... 1. They have invested heavily in the use of information technology to improve their care of patients 2. The era of physically (manual) opening of files for a patient in different branches is no more... all patient have electronic medical records where any doctors in any of their branch can log on to and make a medical assessment. 3. It is easier to sort through lots of patients file history electronically, than the methods of piling heaps of files that probably would have faded away, illegible doctors scribble, missing sheets or papers eating away by cockroaches. 2, When you go to the hospital you get an sms alert indicating the date and time you came to the clinic. ( an area of improvement is for the alert to include the Dr. Name and phone number and area of specialization. 3. Another suggested area of improvement is that when you are given your drugs, the name of the drugs administered should be sent in form of an sms to your phone and via email. Believe me in case of emergency ie. on the road etc., a doctor that goes through your phone sms and see the list of drugs that you had been administered over a period of time,,,, will find such an information invaluable in making certain judgment call. Some may ask why was the drug that my son had reacted to in the past prescribed again?,,,, obviously in every system there are still loopholes.. (but having a system of checks and balance would reveal such mistakes) but i believe the Management of Lagoon would have looked into this issue and put in place proactive means to ensure that a recurrence of such mistake those not happen again.... that is what is only logically expected. The ministry of health should make it compulsory: 1. for all hospitals to have a electronic medical record filing system 2. There should be system for sharing such medical records amongst various medical practitioners in case of emergency or need for alternative opinion. 3. Government funding of such a scheme should be carried out and a long term repayment plan worked out for clinics who do not have the financial means to set up such an electronic database. 4. Information technology should be employed in line with international best practice. 5. Hospitals should have incidence reporting and how taking necessary steps avoided the incidence leading to a fatal event. 6. Consultants should have permit to have special siren fitted in their cars for purpose of emergencies. I am in total support of Chazb's wife action... too many innocent and voiceless people have left this world before their time due to negligence and decay in the health care system. The action she has taken can only lead to system improvement and make our doctors more vigilant, caring and responsive in the discharge of their duties. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by duduade: 1:09pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
LastProphet: Sorry dear... and one big fooooooooooool.... blockhead had the guts to quote me and call that * A RARE OCCURRENCE. ....* |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by slimbj: 1:09pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
9jatatafo:I don't think u are bn truthful..maybe u took your wife to a mediocre . Give us the hospital name. Liar oshi 2 Likes |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by cecegorz(m): 1:14pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
lexybabe: This is one of the trickiest part of medicine that I found out that book smart hardly teaches any doctor. Having an elder brother, who is a medic, he usually tells the stories of how they have this struggles in the hospital, where for some patients with no visible veins, it's always a huge battle trying to insert needles into the vein. Whether it is by intuition or special gift, the other doctors will always seek for his help whenever they have a tough case because he will usually get it right, almost at first try. It can be a harrowing experience for the patient who gets several needle stabs with the attendant pains added to his ailment. 1 Like |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by Coolcash1: 1:21pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
So sad though...Most nigerian doctors especially the young ones are not really competent. I always get nervous and overly curious, asking questions upon questions why a prescription should be taken if one atends to any of my dear ones...Many of them have killed innocent lives out of this...These are cases NMA should look into and not asking for salary increment when no VALUE is being delivered... R.I.P CHarles..I love you. |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by glossy6(f): 1:23pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
helpee: My pcv was ok. The Dr. gave me 500mg instead of the 250mg I was on. The low p cv you mentioned resulted from serious bleeding after birth from the cervix. I was given pitocin and prostaglandin to induce labour. Was I not supposed to be transfixed with blood? As for the gestational age, the baby was 8 months and 5 days in d womb. No history of preterm labour anyway. Am not looking for someone to blame but merely pointing out some of those things our Drs do wrongly 1 Like |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by chigoizie7(m): 1:25pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
I THINK THE GUY WAS BATTLING WITH KIDNEY FAILURE BEFORE. SHE SHOULD JUST FORGET AND MOVE ON INSTEAD OF ATTACHING EMOTIONAL TRAUMA FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU CANT CONTROL. U might be correct, I don't blame her, LET HER CREATE the awareness so that relevant authorities will take note and perhaps caution and stop the doctors from their non-challant behaviors, it might save another ones life. It might save someone from being killed like this. |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by Kayoski(m): 1:27pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
iguita:true .. although the other guys are trying but they arent Charles... my love for the show has diminished since his exit.. His voice alone was like an healing balm to a dying soul.... we love him but God who took him away loves him more... |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by Kayoski(m): 1:29pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
iguita:true .. although the other guys are trying but they arent Charles... my love for the show has diminished since his exit.. His voice alone was like an healing balm to a dying soul.... we love him but God who took him away loves him more... 1 Like |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by laudate: 1:38pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
slimbj: Na dis kind thing I no dey like! Why on earth are you calling him a liar??! Do you think all your medical colleagues are saints?? I used to have asthma growing up and I have made it a point of duty to learn about the kind of stuff that I am allergic to, so that I can avoid them like a plague. I was once prescribed Septrin many years back by a doctor, and when I complained to him that I was allergic to Septrin, guess what he said? I "should manage it," as they don't have any other drug in stock, that would cure the ailment I had at that time. I threw the drugs away, sharp-sharp. And promptly went to another hospital for treatment. I have had relatives and friends whose condition took a turn for the worse, due to the negligence of doctors. A few years back, an elderly relative was rushed to a private hospital near his house in Lagos, with a high fever at 8p.m at night. He was admitted and given some drugs by the doctor on duty, before he left that evening. The following morning, the next doctor on duty did not attend to this patient until 11a.m when the patient's sister-in-law came in with his food. She then started running around calling the doctor. The doctor checked him up, did some bloodwork and stated that the patient needed a blood transfusion. Money was coughed out promptly or released on the spot to the hospital, (almost 60k for two pints of blood) at 11.30 am. Until 4p.m when that patient eventually died, no doctor attended to him again despite the sister-in-law's complaints, and the blood transfusion was NOT even done, as there was no blood delivered to the hospital to be given to the patient. 'We are still trying to get the blood,' was all they said. It was extremely painful. His family was thrown into grief. How would you classify this case? |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by DollyParton1(f): 1:45pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
cescky: The thing is this, everything cannot and should not be spiritualised. I do not doubt the power of prayer or faith. I have been and I am still experiencing the power of prayers. Sometimes we have to step back and analyze the situation. In this case the doctors failed woefully by the look of the things read in the original post. A doctor can be overwhelmed and it is very normal. The issue is, did they do all their possible best? No. If they did all they could, and the patient later died, then we can hook it on God. cant u make an intelligent argument and not resort to abusive words? have you heard of the greatest neurosurgon in the world? let me give you the benefit of the doubt and say you have, now neurosugery is the hardest form of surgery, why? because your dealing with 80% water(in the brain), now this man has various times said he has received guidance in the most hopless of these operations which he knew he could do nothing about....and didnt mince words but has clearly stated that in those situations its God that has guided him....I am not insulting you. Just stating as it is. But I can see you have reciprocated the supposed insult. I know so well about Ben Carson. I follow his story and activities religiously. The difference between Ben Carson and the doctors of St. Nicholas Hospital is that Ben Carson will leave no stone unturned while dealing with a difficult case. He would do all the best he can while relying on God to do the rest. At this junction if you still have your brain intact, you should remember a bible passage that says "Faith without work, is dead". It's just like a student who after receiving a prophesy that he would graduate with a first class, decided not to study or work hard in school. Such student cannot get a first class, with faith or no faith. Cos God does not condone laziness or slacking. The doctors of St. Nicholas Hospital slacked in this case. i wont really blame you especially if you cliam to be a christan, you must be a baby christian, change your church too....the church i attend dead people are prayed for not by the pastor but by the congration and the dead are brought back to life.(one major rule of life is simply faith on the word of God, finish) I am a Christian and by all standards I am not a baby Christian. I am a Christian who knows every issues should not be spiritualised. In this particular case, you have failed to analyse the suitation properly. Jesus raised the dead. Yea. And he has promised us Christians that we will do greater works than he did. Yea. But you should realize that these couple were not looking for miracles. They had faith in the Hospital and the hospital failed them. It is a different case if they took him to the Church for prayers. using your brain very well youll see that even aethists like richard branson(virgin) can attest to the power of faith, and the list is endless Don't get it twisted, when an atheist is talking about faith, he is in no way referring to God. An Atheist believes in science. 1 Like |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by cescky(m): 1:59pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
DollyParton1: Dollypatron Firstly, ur a baby christian, because God didn't say believe of have faith in God for you to get answrrs to prayers...he said believe and believe WHAT? That you have your petion...hence the statement, "let it be unto you as thou has believe" that was to the blind beggars..where ever in the bible did you see or hear jesus say according to MY faith or the disciples faith be it unto u...hoep u catch my drift? So u see u that's is a christian that owns faith don't use or understand it, but an atheist like branson, we tell about his success based on his believeing(unciouss practice of faith)...but u don't gerrit. Pls its not at this junction pls find the correct word and pls do have yourself a good day, wheather I have a brain or not you decide |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by obidaddy: 2:06pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
I lost one of my dear parent to medical negligence and almost lost my surviving parent to another young doctor. Corruption and bad leadership is the root cause of most of these avoidable deaths in our hospitals. i marvel when i see ambulances in war thorn areas in the middle-east with basic emergency and life saving equipments on TV, especially oxygen. our hospitals lack basic modern equipments, our ambulances (few) are simply hearse. The nonchalance and merciless behavior and attitude of medical personnel in this country is horrible. I feel so disappointed when some people advise we leave this madness to God, whereas poor people continue to die or left deformed for live, over simple medical issues in our some of the problems bedeviling our medical sector from my experience at the hospitals both private and public includes but not limited to the following are: Institutional and endemic Corruption pervading every facets of Nigeria. Poor training and attitude of our doctors and medical personnel. Poor/ Non existent regulations, supervisions, Monitoring of Government and private hospitals and facilities by Nigerian Medical and Dental Council and other regulatory agencies. Poor and obsolete Equipment. Poor Remuneration (compared to other professionals and jobs in Nigeria, I think they are better paid). No sane country flies its elite and citizens oversees for medical attention and treatment. if our hospitals were right late former Governor Alamesighgha will be alive to face corruption charges, late President Yardua would still be alive today and perhaps on his second term in office to mention but a few. meanwhile RIP Chaz B. May the Lord give your widow and loved ones the fortitude to bear this painful loss to many and the will and resources to ensure that this nonsense never repeat itself at st. Nicholas Hospital Amen. 1 Like |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by rezzy: 2:13pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
maoolakanm: In such situation, its very difficult to pray. Even when you try, it's done in fear and doubt. And sometimes, after much prayer or no prayer, the will of God will still be done. 1 Like |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by laudate: 2:13pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
I came across this story and thought I should share it: Africa’s Trauma Epidemic | By OLA OREKUNRIN OCT. 17, 2013 More attention needs to be placed on emergency care. Sadly, there are too few doctors who realise that every second counts when an emergency situation, presents itself. St. Nicholas probably had the equipment but lacked the right skilled personnel with appropriate knowledge on site, on the day ChazB walked into their hospital. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by Eaganguolly(m): 2:17pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
Its just unfortunate. It is the same thing across the country. Not even to keep track record of a patient is a problem. An old chemist is better than new doctors |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by jpphilips(m): 2:25pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
@OP Do an autopsy, your husband's friend Chike is a fine lawyer and a gentleman, he will take the case to NMA first then to the courts.Take heart!! 1 Like |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by Btruth: 2:35pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
Madam...., we @.........(Nig) Enterprises are so sorry about the lost of your husband. The Lord will heal your wounds, and console the rest of your family. Pray that your husband will forever rest in the bosom of the Lord. To be honest, I will not blame Dr. Kwewe, he did tried his best as a Dr. Remember, all Doctors just try their best, but God heal or save. We should all remember that there's an appointment time for everyone to exit this world, and that is why it's been proclaimed all the four corners of the world that we should be prepared, because no one knows when he or she will have the last breath. Men should learn to live everyday as our last day on earth, because nobody knows what could happen the next 5 to 10 mins. We should prepare our ways always in case death come calling. Death is the only sure thing to happen to us individually. When, how, where and what time it will happen is what was hidden from us all. It is well. |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by laudate: 2:39pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
jpphilips: Autopsy??! The man has been buried since last year! |
Re: How St.nicholas Hospital Doctors Killed Chaz B By Chinyere Roselin Chukuma by Oduduwaboy(m): 2:48pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
duduade:You failed to provide answers to the modest questions my lil tensed up friend!Anyway you are just one of the funny mob. How can any rational & complete being begin to judge a case by hearing just one side? Its wrong. The single story is never the whole story. Sorry i picked your post...it was just a random choice; you are the representative of the majority of the irrational posts blaming nigerian doctors for all the deaths that ever occured among their friends & families. |
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