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| Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Goshen360(m): 3:01pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
Hello friends, Scripture says, faith (Christ being the object) comes by hearing and hearing the word of God, that is, what God had said. Are you hearing or listening to what God had said or you're listening to the old tricks of the serpent propagated by the religious leaders in our today's world. What you listen to is very crucial to your faith. What is the serpent's message and how are the religious leaders propagating the same message today? I hope this message bless your soul as you read and understand so that your faith will not be futile but in the finished works of Christ for you. New American Standard Bible Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden '?" The woman said to the serpent, "From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.'" The serpent said to the woman, "You surely will not die! "For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." Genesis 3:1-5 There're so many things or issues to point out in this text but I\we will only focus on the serpent's message. What is it? The serpent's messages is disapproving or invalidating what God had said to man (as a new creature) by using the trick of what man already is without man knowing he is already in that status. Lemme put it better in another way: The serpent comes with the message: "when you eat, you eyes will be opened AND YOU WILL BE LIKE GOD...". Question: Were they already created LIKE God and in His Image? Yes! Genesis 1:27. So, the serpent tried to get them to do something God never wanted them to do in order to become what God had already made them.  .4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Goshen360(m): 3:01pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
Here's the message the Spirit is sharing to the church of Christ As a NEW CREATURE in Christ, God had already blessed you in Christ (Ephesians 1:3,6; Gal. 3:14); delivered you (Col. 1:13) etc but some religious leaders are using the same old tricks of the serpent telling you to do something God never wanted you to do in order to become who you already are in Christ. They tell you you are under a curse if you don't pay tithe. What tithe did Adam paid when God pronounced him blessed (Gen. 1:28). They tell you to come for deliverance service - you are under a generational curse unto the forth\fifth generation because of what your fore-fathers did when God said to you as a new creature that, he'll not visit the iniquities of the fathers on their children especially when they turn to God (Hebrews 8:12). They tell you God is going to get you and punish you because of what you did right or didn't do right. They tell you to sow seed so you can be prospered and have breakthroughs etc As a new creature in Christ, you're already complete and need no addition (Colossians 2:10). You are everything you needed to be, not until you do something God never intended. You are what you are because you are in Christ and Christ's experience becomes your experience. It is not because you do something or don't do, it is by the reason of you being in Christ. In Christ, you're restored to the original setting of God before the fall of Adam. Stop letting what happened in the garden to continue to repeat itself in your new creature life by listening to these religious leaders doing the ministry of the serpent - telling you to do something to become what you already are in Christ for their own gains. Salvation is a complete package delivered to you in Christ via the Grace of God. In this salvation package, therein is your inheritance in Christ. You're the reason for the finished works of Christ. Until I come your way another time, enjoy the riches of His Grace! 3 Likes |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Nobody: 3:04pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
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| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Beesluv: 3:11pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
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| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Nobody: 3:14pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
Please I need urgent answers sir... Why does the bible tells us to pay tithe in Malachi? Why does the bible tells us to pay attention to reading? Why does the bible tells us to go forth and bear fruit? Why does the bible tells us to do so many things if salvation truly has given us all these things? Pls, help save a soul here... Got so many other questions too, but will begin with this.. Thanks so much 2 Likes |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Goshen360(m): 3:25pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
polymathic: 1 - Malachi wasn't talking to you AS A CHRISTIAN but to the priests who was stealing from God by not remitting the OT tithe as commanded. Start reading from chapter 1 of Malachi and continue to pay attention to who the rebuke was directed to from verse to verse. I challenge you, it's just few chapters. No body will fetch the truth out for you, but you, yourself. 2. You pay attention to STUDYING (not reading) so you can rightly divide the word of truth. 3. You can't bear fruits by your own strength. You must first have the root, which is Christ in you. Then you can bear fruit. You're the branches, not the root and without Him, you can do nothing. 4. Salvation had in deed given you all things you need for life and godliness. The doing is not what you do to make such things happen again but doing as one who already have it. You are praying for victory and fighting the devil instead of fighting like a victor in Christ and fighting from a victorious standing. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Nobody: 6:22am On Oct 19, 2015 |
Goshen360:That means one must do what the bible commanded but not as one who doesn't have it but as one who have it. Am I right? Pls, I need explicit explanation... Thanks and God bless... Jesus said if you be Abraham's seed then do the works of Abraham and the bible said Abraham was obedient and God blessed him. Even Peter has to give Jesus His boats for some hours before he could catch that great fish. Am just a bit confused bro... Thanks once again |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by spencerwilliams(m): 6:38am On Oct 19, 2015 |
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| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by spencerwilliams(m): 6:48am On Oct 19, 2015 |
polymathic:why listen to false preachers, listen faith without works is dead. Read your bible to find out how people lived after their salvation experience then you will know they are false teachers, Jesus said as the father sent me so sent are you, now when Jesus was praying before he was arrested he cried and ask God to take the cup away, now listen to me at this point he had to take a DESCISION to please the father. Yes Christ died paid it all,but the first thing he did was to destroy the power of sin. SO NO SINNER IS A CHRISTIAN AND NO CHRISTIAN IS A SINNER!!!.shalom |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Hiswordxray(m): 8:27am On Oct 19, 2015 |
polymathic: " Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." (Phi 2:12-13) Here Paul said we should obey and work and in the following verse he explained that it is not us working and obeying but God doing it in us through Christ. "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God," (Eph 2:  This verse further explain that the grace to obey is not from us but a gift from God. It is a gift already package with the gift of salvation. Even the salvation we have it is by the gift of grace through faith. We believe and therefore we are able to obey the call of God and accept this salvation. And even after we are save we still have to draw from grace the ability to continue to obey God. All the works that we do we cannot attribute it to ourselves or our strength but it is a grace that we find in this package of salvation. We have everything we need in salvation, including the grace to obey and work. 2 Likes |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Princewell2012(m): 10:01pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Op thank you for the good work you re doing here, may the good Lord reward you greatly. I have actualy sent you a massage on your mail, i dont know if you have received it. Pls how do i meet you? i stays in lagos concerning spiritual matters i mean as a christian i would love to fellowship with you. I realised you have a good knowledge of the holy scripture, and i would love to learn and study with you. Thanks and God bless you. |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Goshen360(m): 4:43am On Oct 20, 2015 |
^ ^ ^ Blessed be God who had given us this revelation and we appreciate it's a blessing to you. I sure received your mail and replied you but unfortunately, I reside outside the homeland. I do visit once in every year. Hopefully, we keep contact and I'll let you know when my next home coming will be. Other than that, we can always fellowship on this forum. I'm a little relieve from my job now so, I have some time to do some teachings until I get busy with work again. |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Goshen360(m): 4:56am On Oct 20, 2015 |
spencerwilliams: See, the problem is, we criticize and judge wrongly of things we do not know. I careless if you're referring to me as false teachers, it doesn't matter brother but hear\listen to the truth. A single word most times mean more than one thing in scripture depending on context and how it is used. I can show you example but lemme go to what James is saying explaining my statement above: WORKS that James is referring to is NOT WORKS that makes things happen, it is WORKS that is produced or born out of your faith\believing. That is, a corresponding action that FOLLOWS what you believe NOT actions THAT MAKES WHAT GOD HAD ALREADY DONE TO HAPPEN AGAIN. If you go into details on the example of Abraham James cited, you'll realize it is FIRST the BELIEVE that justified Abraham but then, Abraham then FOLLOWED with works which was born AFTER HIS BELIEVE or which was a corresponding ACTIONS to what he believed NOT ACTIONS or WORKS to cause Abraham's justification. We need to stop just quoting scriptures out of context. God bless you! 1 Like |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Goshen360(m): 5:13am On Oct 20, 2015 |
polymathic: 1. A proper example I can think of right now is, when you pray, BELIEVE you already have what you pray for and you shall have it. When you fight against the kingdom of darkness, fight as one who already have victory in Christ not one FOR victory. 2. To understand some text, you have to do some questioning. So, question: what are the works of Abraham that Jesus was referring to? Was he saying just like Abraham tried to kill his son, we should do the same? b - Our obedience is not what blesses us - it is the obedience of Christ. This doesn't mean we don't obey or that our obedience is not required but the obedience that is required from us under the NT is obedience to the faith (in the finished works) of the Son of God. Berean Literal Bible For as indeed through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the One, the many will be made righteous. Romans 5:19 Berean Study Bible Through Him and on behalf of His name, we received grace and apostleship to call all those among the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith. Romans 1:5 1 Like |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Princewell2012(m): 9:54am On Oct 20, 2015 |
Goshen360: Ok thanks. But apart from here can we study outside this forum, such as whasapp or bb group ? to avoid unnecessary distraction. I wish i could work with you. pls let me know when you comes around. God bless you. Pls dont mind Spencerwillian. |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Anas09: 11:19am On Oct 20, 2015 |
I will also like to study with u guys. My number is 08184652099. The sincere word of eternal life is becoing scares by the day. The Prophecy of Obadiah is coming to pass in our time. Obadiah 8:11 says "behold the days come, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread. And water, but of the word of the Lord. 12, and they'll wander from sea to sea, from the north even to the east, they'll run from toand fro seeking the word of God and shall not find it. So many teachers, but what are they teaching? I am complete in Christ, nothing is lacking. I pity believers who are being told to go for deliverance every now and then. How many times did christ die? |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by plappville(f): 2:20pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
Goshen360: Bonjour mon frère. So many serpents today my brother. Nice topic. |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by plappville(f): 2:27pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
Anas09: The reason is because they are too lazy to study thier bible. Lets use logic here.. If we dont read our text books. Sure we cant pass our exams. Same thing goes for a christian. Study ur bible. It profits a lots. |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Goshen360(m): 6:05pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
Princewell2012: Anas09: I will I could you guys out but honestly, I'm a busy person. It's just that for now I'm a bit free that's why I'm available. When my job starts to get busy again, na go I dey so o....However, nobody can fetch or dig out the truth for you except you. You will need to sit with the word, study verse-by-verse, sometimes use bible dictionaries\concordance and\or lexicons to get word meanings, understand context etc and give yourself time, you will fall into the hand of the Spirit and when the Spirit consume you, you're good to go. Also, you'll need to flush out your system of what you're taught as a young Christian in the institutionalized setting and start afresh. |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Goshen360(m): 6:06pm On Oct 20, 2015 |
plappville: Thanks dear. I'm happy to always hear from you. On my way out now....you know say your brother na always on the move  . Chat you later! |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Princewell2012(m): 10:57am On Oct 21, 2015 |
Goshen360: HMMMM yes we need to read our bible always but we also need to fellowship with each others as faith commeth by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Proverb 27:17 says iron Sharpe nth iron so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by Anas09: 12:48pm On Oct 21, 2015 |
I do study my Bible. But man must wack nah. Life's hustles. I appreciate u sha. |
| Re: Beware Of Religious Leaders And Their Serpent Messages by plappville(f): 12:37am On Feb 19, 2016 |
Goshen360: Oui mon frère, je ne plus ton adresse mail. Tu me la donne s'il te plaît ? Merci pour ton message pour mon anniversaire. C'est gentil. |
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