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My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by joeprince23(m): 2:57pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
I read with dissapointment the comments you made about rivers-state and PH I am not really consigned about your anti-biafra stand(because I'm neither pro or anti biafra) but I'm more consigned about comments hw u potrayed PH and rivers state at large. May I remind u that this is no longer 1997 prior to the creation of bayelsa state. PH consist of PHAlga and OBAlga. While OBAlga(the most populous lga in rivers) is absoltely ikwerre land wheras PHalga is about 60% ikwerre(upland) and 40% riverine(borokiri abuloma eagle and elephant islands) u were echoeing what has always kept us down in this state: UPLAND riverine dichotomy. I am not an ikwerre but rather an Ndoki ethnic nationality(though I see my self simply as an igbo man) I have this to say about my ikwerre neigbhours and brothers(ndoki land share boundy with ikwerre at IRIEBE in obio/akpor........ > .........> The Ikwere People And their Rejection Of Igbo Identity. It amuses me when indigenes of Igbo-speaking communities outside the South-East deny their Igbo identity. The Ikwerres, represented by the likes of Okachikwu Dibia, are the fiercest and most strident in this act of playing the ostrich. The renowned writer Elechi Amadi, an Ikwerre man, restated this renunciation before the Oputa Panel in 2004 but was reminded of his Igbo name. Ironically, he is quoted to have upheld the Igbo origin of Ikwerres in one of his writings. Howbeit, Igbos in South-East Nigeria justifiably regard the Igbo-speaking areas of Rivers State (Ikwerre, Etche, Ogba, Ekpeye, Opobo, Ahaoda, Ndoni, Egbema, etc) as their kith and kin. On the other hand, the Ijaws and other non-Igbos of Rivers State also rightly refer to these communities as Igbos, and even claim that Rivers State has been under Igbo rule since 1999! Generally, a person native name, mother-tongue, pedigree and ancestral geographical location define his race. But this may not be so in cases where an individual bears a name and speaks a language unrelated to the one associated with his ancestors. However, when the indigenes of an entire community speak as their mother tongue a language associated with a particular race, bear names borne only by persons of that race, share boundaries with communities within that race and have traditions similar to theirs, then the inescapable conclusion is that they belong to that race. This is the place of Ikwerres and other Igbo-speaking communities in Rivers, Delta, Edo and Cross River States vis- Ã -vis the Igbos of the South-East. Furthermore, was Ikwerre ruled by the 19th century King Jaja of Opobo, an ex-slave from Amaigbo in Imo State who transformed to king of Opobo (Igwe Nga) in present-day Rivers State? Even so, that is not tantamount to colonization by NdI Igbo. However, the case of Jaja shows that some of the present-day non-Igbo indigenes of Rivers and Bayelsa States may be descendants of Igbo slaves who escaped exportation overseas and settled in the midst of Ijaws, gradually acquiring a semblance of the latter. For instance, a friend of mine from a community in Yenagoa told me that Igbo words and expressions constitute about seventy percent of their vocabulary. Best Answer As an ndoki-Igbo(rivers), I feel so sad for the so called little Ikwere kingdom. Some of their leaders are messing their minds up as far as Identity is concerned. The Civil war did not make the situation better as some (Not all) the Ikwere people went into this biblical Peter scenario. By the way, the Igbos in Anambra, Imo, Abia, Ebonyi,Enugu, Delta have better objectives and things to pursue than comming after a group of some lost souls who think that changing their original names will give them another identity. No, it makes them look very funny and ridiculous and that,s why the Ijaws and Kalabari,s can,t stand them and succed in putting elements of maginalization to their causes. We have to understand that the abandoned property issue of the 1970,s were mainly superheaded by the Ikweres out of jealousy and hatred of the mainland Igbos who earned those properties by hardwork. If they cite grieviences against the Igbos for the role they played on the seizure their properties, which group in the world do not have problems. The difference is that they make up , unite and move on. Instead the Ikwerre people decided to teach the Igbos a lesson. Where has it left issues and relationships today" ? No where". The Igbos bounced back immedietly after the civil war with the 2 pounds that Awolowo and the Hausas gave them with seizure of all their properties including those in Porthacourt with the help of the IKWERRE people . My take is this to the Ikwerres" It is up to you to make amends and come back to the greater Igbo nation. If they decide to disappear from the radar, it is their perogative but there unborn generations will suffer the consequences and not the current selfish people with no long term vision parading themselves as leaders. 41 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Baroque(f): 3:00pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
This your reply to your brother long shaa 3 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by joeprince23(m): 3:02pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
God bless igboland,God bless Ndoki land,God bless rivers state...... NB: ndoki land comprise most parts of oyigbo LGA of rivers-state and parts of a neigbhouring state 19 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Rose2014: 3:11pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Hypocrisy/mischief is when Yorubas read that Tonyebarcanista's post and saw that he desires a restructured Nigeria but they chose to be silent on that hence won't address it(or maybe they're too scared to speak ) Rather they were busy having orgasm on the part he doesn't support Radio biafra Like Dearpreye once said "Nigeria has a date with the truth" We're just busy dancing atilogu round the problem 30 Likes 4 Shares
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Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by CharlyNick: 3:14pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Oh I see |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Rose2014: 3:20pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Btw someone broke down the list of the protesters by their ethnicity and I find it very interesting going by what some people try to make us believe on nl: that Biafra is an Igbo thing Benson Sunday - Ibibio Emmanuel Ali - Ikwerre Ukeme Monday - Ekpeye Chibuzor Eechina -Igbo Charles Eze - Etche Egbo Okechukwu - Igbo Chibona Ifion - Eleme John Douglas - Kalabari Ezenwa Alphonus - Etche Wori Endurance - Ikwerre Chinomere Nwolu - Ikwerre Henry Eze - Etche Friday Uzunwa - Igbo Igbodo Abio - Etche Akaniyene Uwem - Ibibio Eni Iboro - Ibibio Obinna Stephen -Igbo Monday Ocha - Ikwerre Obinna Ibekwe - Igbo Kingsley Ezengorie - Igbo (Rivers) How then would the protest be viewed as Igbo protest? 26 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by glassjar1: 3:23pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
joeprince23: gold staff for you for telling the truth . 15 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Nossa(m): 3:25pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
ayt |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by glassjar1: 3:35pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
long live BIAFRA LAND our personal land and savior from lagos deportations . go back to your villages they yelled to us omonna/inyammiri get out of south west they say to us even their former Governor . they call us strangers and deported us in our own fatherland NIJILYA still they will not let us have our own diplomatic house. we are foreigner they said ,go back to your erosion land they mock s . they claim murtala mmuhammed international airport belong to south west we are BIAFRANS they indirectly call us Biafra 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by alcmene: 3:51pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
I love this masterpiece. I thought the lousy and rowdy barcanista is a reasonable fellow that knows his onions. 5 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by SLIDEwaxie(m): 3:53pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
I dey type... |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by cheruv: 3:56pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
joeprince23:As an ukwangwa,I feel sad knowing that we lost our brothers living south of Imo river in the 1976 sham exercise. When the time comes,oyigbo(ukwa South) LG would be returned to the greater Igboland 7 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by SLIDEwaxie(m): 3:56pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Rose2014:may God find them good job. Assuming dem go school come graduate 1 Like |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Rose2014: 4:06pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
SLIDEwaxie: If only Buhari can fulfill his campaign promise on employment 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by patrick89(m): 4:06pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
This is unnecessary for the enemies will rejoice on this. |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by kingdompropty: 4:13pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
My brother, Barcanista have his own views which may change over time. For some of us we don't hold similar views like his unless things change fast. 3 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Energito: 4:14pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Rose2014:thy will view those name as igbo name. 1 Like |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Rose2014: 4:20pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Energito:Smh 1 Like |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by bolajJP007: 4:27pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Igbos are the highest set of hypocrites on planet earth. They want to claim PH by fire by force but forgetting the fact that the asaba and agbor they are claiming was part of western region before the creation of midwestern state. The Yorubas allowed peace to reign even though most of those who masterminded the creation of midwestern state were the Igbos. The Yorubas have never wanted to claim back what is today Edo and Delta state even though this two states are richly endowed with crude-oil. Cant the Igbos take a cue from the Yorubas and let the people of South-South be, especially PH in Rivers state. This people(South-South people) have come to realise that you people are not reliable. All you(igbos) are doing now is trying to trick the South-South people into going with you, knowing that they will be worst for it in the long run. This is evident in the fact that if you can play your ethnic politics against Adaka-Boro in a university setting, who says you wont do worst in open politics when you are sure of more population. Please, let the people of South-South be, fight your fight yourselves. 3 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by unclejb2(m): 4:29pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Ikwerres are Igbos. Igbos are not the problem of any tribe in Nigeria. It's a pity that the entire SS who are the most adversely affected by this scam called Nigeria still have a handfull who are still scared of confronting their oppressors. 4 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Nobody: 4:42pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Barcanista I respect your view but in total disagreement with your write-ups. Nnamdi the Biafra director has not said anything different from what the APC said before they came into power,he has not said anythying different from what Buhari said years back before he became the President,nothing different from the Oba of Lagos,Elrufai,Atiku ,Asari Dokuboh, Murtala Nyako,Niger Delta militants etc. Do you think this country with the way it is structured and skewed to the advantage of the Hausa-Fulani will ever let the Niger-Delta or Biafra go easily without massive propaganda like that coming from Nnamdi?...Not in this life time, mere Federalism can not be implemented just because of fear of being disadvantaged economically due to their mental laziness. I am from AkwaIbom...Oron to be precise and I am in total support of his mode of operation.Buhari spoke in 2011 and many were killed, this guy has said so many things and no where has it been reported that someone was killed because of his hate speech. If Nnamdi must face treason,Buhari and his goons in government and the Niger Delta militants must also face same. Whoever wants to leave must be allowed to leave this force,false and slavery marriage Nigeria 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by basilo101: 4:47pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
joeprince23:the bolded is very simple and logical. all these irrelevant Edo or other tribes should kw that we have nothing with them if they dont want to join biafra but nobody is going to steal igboland in the name of South South 9 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by IGBOPRINCE: 4:54pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Rose2014:let me call on hopeathand to confirms those ikwerre name and oyind17 to confirms those kalabari names. Laudate, how re you? Lngest time 1 Like |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by joeprince23(m): 4:57pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
bolajJP007:. From your writing it can be deduced that your know nothing about rivers state,I can tell u that many of us in upland rivers(apart from ogoni) will never be part of any niger delta republic. I personally get agitated wen someone like chief edwin clark will leave ogbe-ijaw in warri and start medling in rivers affair all in the name of niger delta(that was why celestine omehia reminded him that riverstate is now 70% upland) 13 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Duru1(m): 5:02pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Most southerners are moronic dingbats with niche to remain perpetually idiotic and subjugated. Who believe in these days and years that southern Nigeria, minus Lagos, cannot compare favorably with infrastructure in northern region of Nigeria. It is unfathomable that the so-called minorities in southern Nigeria are still bathing in illegal collection of crude oil in order to save two square meal a day. I guess stupidity cannot be fixed. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:03pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
joeprince23: Thanks so much bro...Really learnt a lot reading your piece...Nigeria's boundaries are ONLY political...Some people erroneously view Igbo as their problem though I am not perturbed by the man who chooses to deny his ancestry because his new friends or home will surely remind him when the chips are down and probably too late to make amends...Finally, if MASSOB members were butchered notwithstanding their nonviolent stand and termed jokers for same reason...why force IPOB to adopt same tactics which has failed over time...There radical style to me is good...THEY ARE NOT VIOLENT... 7 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Nobody: 5:07pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
IGBOPRINCE:I refused to believe this lies |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:10pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
bolajJP007: Read and approach discussions in public with a clear, sane and intelligent mindset ...avoid celebration of mediocrity and ignorance... Kindly note that Op is discussing natural, cultural, and definite boundaries and people NOT political boundaries imposed by military...thanks 3 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by fulanimafia: 5:16pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
While the rest of the world is uniting for progress (EU, globalization etc.), southerners seem obsessed with dwelling on their differences. Oh well 3 Likes |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:19pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Rose2014: Nne! kedu ije? my best wishes as always... 1 Like |
Re: My Reply To My Brother Tonyebarcanista On Ipob/biafra by Rose2014: 5:21pm On Oct 22, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: Anokwam ya Nwanne mmadu Ebee ka Nwannem nwanyi no biko? 2 Likes |
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