baralatie:
I have helped you to break down YOUR OWN STATEMENT. there are TWO ISSUES THAT YOU ARE HIGHLIGHTING a,the work and effort for the nationhood
b,the perfection of man hood.
don't mix them together!

So, your point is?

cocoduck:
These people are not what a man or woman worth his or her salt can consider heroes

before one can begin to call other people names. let us understand what you meant by the phrase
" a man or woman worth his or her salt"

cocoduck:
These people are not what a man or woman worth his or her salt can consider heroes
Azikiwe was dumb and stup1d, how can a person say I want a car but fails to specify the type, make or model or even the condition of the car, all he wants is a car. Awolowo himself is Tribal myopic bastard, what is the meaning crying to Yorba politicians to jump party because an igbo man won, which is also a pointer at zik's stupidity. I can never condsider these nincompoops as heroes. If I had my way I will nuke their graves. Do you know that Bamenda of camrroun was part of Nigeria? Or that taraba was part of cameroun but what happened? Go and find out

Thank you. You understand it. These are dwarf men. At times you listen to some Nigerians. Elderly men precisely and they speak of the good old days. There's never been a good old days.

Reyginus:
So, your point is?

the point is
1,if one to look exactly like Jesus Christ or as perfect as an ANGEL there will be no earth,no nations ,no tribes,no god morning or good evening.
it will just sit down and do nothing and watch everything and all things go wrong because you are not an angel!

2,but History never went that way!it was a gradual growth,it was one action good one and another one over time.these actions become corner stones for the other good actions to come!

Nigeria isn't worth dyeing for, 9ja is 4*cked up.... Thank God I left Naija

baralatie:

the point is
1,if one to look exactly like Jesus Christ or as perfect as an ANGEL there will be no earth,no nations ,no tribes,no god morning or good evening.
it will just sit down and do nothing and watch everything and all things go wrong because you are not an angel!

You don't understand your point then. The point you are trying to make is that these men are some special kind, any attempt to make them appear like the other man on the street defines then the other man on the street. In essence nothing significant. They mustn't appear as angels but they are bound, by virtue of how we see them, to appear as progressives but they are not.

baralatie:

2,but History never went that way!it was a gradual growth,it was one action good one and another one over time.these actions become corner stones for the other good actions to come!

Which history book have you been reading? History is simply a collection of past events it is not a collection of positive past events. It's left for us to interprete and give meaning with the data gathered. These men are the reason for our hatred of one another here.

If Ahmadu Bello was not a fanatic. If Awolowo was not tribalistic. If Zik was not selfish. If Murtala had been smarter. If Gowon had set up a reconciliation program like the Tutsi and Hutu did. If Buhari had set up institutions to fight corruption instead of claiming to be the antidote.

Reyginus:
You don't understand your point then.
The point you are trying to make is that these men are some special kind, any attempt to make them appear like the other man on the street defines then the other man on the street. In essence nothing significant. They mustn't appear as angels but they are bound, by virtue of how we see them, to appear as progressives but they are not.

the man on the street is SIGNIFICANT!
it is the actions of the man on the street that makes them different.their actions is based on HOW THEY UNDERSTAND TGE PROBLEMS AROUND THEM AND PROFER SOLUTIONS!
That is how heroes are made!

Reyginus:



If Ahmadu Bello was not a fanatic.
If Awolowo was not tribalistic.
If Zik was not selfish.
If Murtala had been smarter.
If Gowon had set up a reconciliation program like the Tutsi and Hutu did.
If Buhari had set up institutions to fight corruption instead of claiming to be the antidote.

if we start history now a long day awaits!

baralatie:

the man on the street is SIGNIFICANT!
it is the actions of the man on the street that makes them different.their actions is based on HOW THEY UNDERSTAND TGE PROBLEMS AROUND THEM AND PROFER SOLUTIONS!
That is how heroes are made!

So if the man is significant in this sense why are we not talking about the man on the street? Why are Nigerians not aware of my neighbours existence? Since you want to compare them.

Reyginus:
So if the man is significant in this sense why are we not talking about the man on the street? Why are Nigerians not aware of my neighbours existence? Since you want to compare them.

how many of the good things in your neighbour do you talk about first?

hmmmm

baralatie:
Chief Awolowo
Sir Herbert Macaulay
HRH sultan Dan fodio
Sir Tafawa Balewa
HRH Nnamdi Azikiwe
and all members of Nigeria House of 1960

(rtrd) Gen. Olusegun Obasanjo (NArmy )
(rtd) Gen. Ibrahim Babangida(NArmy)
late(rtd) Gen. Murtala Mohammed(NArmy)
and all military personnel for the unification of one Nigeria.

Prof. (Dr) Olukoye Ransome Kuti (late)
Chief M.K.O Abiola(late)
Chief Mrs Kudirat Abiola(late)

and all professional personnel who contributed one way and another for the peace,unification and progress of Nigeria.

God Bless you all.

God Bless Nigeria.

lol no

baralatie:

how many of the good things in your neighbour do you talk about first?

that's not really the point. If we are talking of our founding fathers with words of super heroes then they should be super heroes. But they are not but we are made to believe so.

baralatie:


if we start history now a long day awaits!

My point there is, if they had done the right thing we wouldn't be in this stinking mess.

Reyginus:
that's not really the point. If we are talking of our founding fathers with words of super heroes then they should be super heroes. But they are not but we are made to believe so.

I never called them super heroes
but there are HEROES!
that is what I am saying!

baralatie:

I never called them super heroes
but there are HEROES!
that is what I am saying!

No problem. If we must call one a hero then the person should really be a hero. But the claim to heroism here is simply being the first to lead. Even Hitler too was a hero. These men destroyed this country.

Reyginus:
My point there is, if they had done the right thing we wouldn't be in this stinking mess.

nooo! that is not the analysis
these men have done the right thing.the problem is there are people who are working day and night to make sure that their actions,decisions and goals do not work in the least way!


just like a woman wants to cook soup and children come into the kitchen to put more pepper into the soup!

abduljabbar4:
Some fools ^^^^ there


I can die for my country. If its bad its our responsibility to get things right.

so, because their opinions differ from yours you call them fools?why not use sound logic to convince them otherwise.

baralatie:

nooo! that is not the analysis
these men have done the right thing.the problem is there are people who are working day and night to make sure that their actions,decisions and goals do not work in the least way!


just like a woman wants to cook soup and children come into the kitchen to put more pepper into the soup!

She didn't teach the kids the essence of morality then. Same thing applies here but only that there was no intention of going the market in this case. We should desist from this praise and worship of false gods.

Reyginus:
She didn't teach the kids the essence of morality then. Same thing applies here but only that there was no intention of going the market in this case. We should desist from these praise and worship to false gods.

what if she taught the kids morality,Cooking manners and etiquette? and the kids were of age?

God forbid me die for Nigeria. I can't even dash my leg on a stone for Nigeria

baralatie:

what if she taught the kids morality,Cooking manners and etiquette? and the kids were of age?

If she taught them the right things in the proper manner they will have no other choice than to be coordinated. If these so-called heroes were intelligent enough and abundantly good, their predecessors would have seen the brighter and positive nature of things.

It is like teaching a kid a particular sport. Say soccer. There's no way the kid will learn any other sport talk more master it above soccer. That's how humans are made. The same thing appears with hatred. If I only teach a kid how to hate that kid will grow hating love so much.

Reyginus:
If she taught them the right things in the proper manner they will have no other choice than to be coordinated. If these so-called heroes were intelligent enough and abundantly good, their predecessors would have seen the brighter and positive nature of things.

It is teaching a kid a particular sport. Say soccer. There's no way the kid will learn any other sport talk more master it above soccer. That's how humans are made.

that is how it should normally go but that a mother or father is a sports lover does not mean that child would like sports!

baralatie:

that is how it should normally go but that a mother or father is a sports lover does not mean that child would like sports!

Ideas are not inherent in us. Science is yet to say so. Everything is learned. The thing is, even if the child has no passion for the game there's no other game to play. It is either you are good and pass it around or you stay quiet and don't commit evil.

Missy89:
lol no

You can do better than this. Nigeria is worth dying for

Truthpallbearer:
You can do better than this. Nigeria is worth dying for

I dont think so. Why should anyone die for Nigeria? Gimme one good reason

Missy89:


I dont think so. Why should anyone die for Nigeria? Gimme one good reason

When the cause is right

bonnelblack:


If you term my political synopsis on nationalism as 'speaking in tongues', then you are not only daft but incapable of broaching such a subject, which is obviously beyond your elementary education!

Why can't you keep your political synopsis and respond to the questions asked? I repeat, people like you fail out of egocentric exuberance, always believing you are right. The questions are simple enough for the dumbest of all being to understand, I'm surprised you don't.