Lije i said b4, the way some if not most of these LaLiga fans argue is shocking.

Its like saying Coquelin is better dan Xavi because Xavi is on a decline

Debroslink:


Poor analysis my Bro.

Save Di Maria; Shakiri, Pedro and Payer are not classy. We are talking about movers and icons of their clubs such as Rakitic (winner of Europa league best player 2014) going to Barcelona, Vidal to Bayern, Arda Turan, Suarez, etc

Too much money flowing in EPL would make players like Rooney, who is not as good as Aduriz of Bilbao be earning more than Ronaldo. And Sterling who is not better than Oliver Torres be worth 40m pounds.

The classy players know the clubs to join when they come calling.

What I am trying to point out is, Nobody bloody cares about the club status again. Everyone is after the money and the EPL is ready to offer that.

Bimffo:



What I am trying to point out is, Nobody bloody cares about the club status again. Everyone is after the money and the EPL is ready to offer that.

Tell him again.

Ogbonna left Juve for West Ham. Cabaye swapped PSG for Palace. Wijnaldum left captainship and regular UCL footy to play relegation footy with Newcastle.

Ibarbo, Behrami, Prodl, Nyom are at Watford now. Holebas actually left Roma got Watford.

Salomon Rondon is now at West Brom.

This is 2015 mehn...big club is out. Big bucks are in.

Nihilist:


I dont exactly get your point. You're talking about movers and shakers and then saying Aduriz is better than Rooney.

My head hurts trying to understand your argument.

What has Aduriz won in his life? What has Rakitic achieved in his life? Vidal? Arda Turan?

Are you genuinely trying to compare a Wayne Rooney who is now in decline after winning almost everything there is to win at club level, to an Aduriz who is a football nobody?

My head hurts.

Baba I tire. Aduriz better than Rooney. What won't I hear on NL.?

raumdeuter:


A lot depends on what happens before that day. Sir

1.Robben needs to come back so he can take over the right and let Muller move centrally behind Lewandoski where he is more potent

2. Martinez needs to come back from Injury and play Central defence so Alaba can go back to his normal position on the left where he and Costa can combine to overload Bellerin and Oxlade

3. Hopefully Pep would have his sense back and not move Lahm to midfield, I thought The Lahm in midfield obssesion would stop since we have Vidal but Peps must just find a way even if it means playing Lewandoski at right back

Do you see Robben and Martinez getting fit before the match, are you confident of a win once the team is complete??

Chelseafan1:


Do you see Robben and Martinez getting fit before the match, are you confident of a win once the team is complete??

Both team fit we would beat Arsenal. Martinez is still out and Robben is doing some light training

money can't buy class my azz. wait till Man City signs Messi before you shiver when you hear the word "money".

@Raumdeuter what do you think of City poaching KDB. isn't that taking Buli's best legs as well?
the way Madrid came for de Gea was the same way United came for Muller as well. the utterances of Muller doesn't rebound as someone who's committing his future to Bayern Munich.

over the years the EPL may have harmed themselves unknowingly, for example, City, Chelshit & United were in @ some point for Bale+Modric & they were ready to pay up but due to Levy not wanting to paint the image of Spurs being in lower tier (which they are with all due disrespect) having had some stunt in the UCL, they facilitated moves outside the league. the same could be seen in the case of Suarez & Arsenal (i admit Wenger na nincompoop), but then you get my drift.
without the feud between Liverpool & United; as well as Suarez' cannibalism, i seriously doubt Suarez will be anywhere else this moment.

raumdeuter:


Both team fit we would beat Arsenal. Martinez is still out and Robben is doing some light training

I can see you are now giving Arsenal some little respect unlike when you do claim they are your bitches and wud destroy them.

Nihilist:


Tell him again.

Ogbonna left Juve for West Ham. Cabaye swapped PSG for Palace. Wijnaldum left captainship and regular UCL footy to play relegation footy with Newcastle.

Ibarbo, Behrami, Prodl, Nyom are at Watford now. Holebas actually left Roma got Watford.

Salomon Rondon is now at West Brom.

This is 2015 mehn...big club is out. Big bucks are in.

Most of those you mentioned are simply washed up players who have no business in top flight football but just found a maga willing to pay them beyond what they are actually worth. In Juve's run to the CL final, I can barely remember Ogbonna doing anything

For Cabaye to leave PSG means he has declined because PSG is a rich club and would pay an inform player

Valon Behrami Seb prodl are all past their useful life

Its like when QPR and Bolton were loading washed up players into their team. I remember when QPR players individually had more CL experience than almost 70% of other EPL clubs(Julio Cesar, Bosingwa, Fabio, Ben Haim, JS Park, SWP, Granero, Mbia) yet that didnt stop them from relegation with one of the largest wage bill in the league, whereas a smart club like Southampton spent sensibly mostly on young talents and are still in reckoning

Where is Bolton with all their Hierro, Campo, Borghetti, Diouf and stellios

Sudden money without a plan brings rise to more silly purchases. Where are the first set of Man city purchases like Bojinov, Robinho, Trabelsi, Mpenza, Bianchi, Caiceido, Elano etc Most were out within 2 yrs and delivered next to nothing

That was what plunged Portsmouth into debt

SailorXY:
money can't buy class my azz. wait till Man City signs Messi before you shiver when you hear the word "money".

@Raumdeuter what do you think of City poaching KDB. isn't that taking Buli's best legs as well?
the way Madrid came for de Gea was the same way United came for Muller as well. the utterances of Muller doesn't rebound as someone who's committing his future to Bayern Munich.

over the years the EPL may have harmed themselves unknowingly, for example, City, Chelshit & United were in @ some point for Bale+Modric & they were ready to pay up but due to Levy not wanting to paint the image of Spurs being in lower tier (which they are with all due disrespect) having had some stunt in the UCL, they facilitated moves outside the league. the same could be seen in the case of Suarez & Arsenal (i admit Wenger na nincompoop), but then you get my drift.
without the feud between Liverpool & United; as well as Suarez' cannibalism, i seriously doubt Suarez will be anywhere else this moment.

If City buys Messi, then the Messi they would be buying would be an almost expired Messi and paying over the top possibly 200M. Barca would then buy the next big thing while you are still admiring messi

After Ballack KdB is the next top player the EPl has been able to poach from the Buli, but the Buli has found a way to get around it by making smart buys of their own and developing their own players. You buy KdB, Wolfsburg buys Draxler who looks like the next big thing for 50M cheaper.

Remember KdB was an ex EPL player sold for 20m and now bought back for 80M

Imagine someone paid 35M for Firminho sorry but thats serious maga money. The same amount Costa and Vidal were bought.

EPL clubs coming to buy Fuchs, Joselu Okazaki is just a joke. Most of these guys are wrth next to nothing and are getting paid heavily
A season or 2 from now, Someone would just come and drop heavy money for Huntelaar, Ribery or Weidenfeller

Regarding Levy, Once players hear Madrid theres almost nothing you can do to stop it. Was it not the same Levy who sold Berbatov to Man utd?

Chelseafan1:
I can see you are now giving Arsenal some little respect unlike when you do claim they are your bitches and wud destroy them.

That one na just banter. Arsenal is a good side and on their day they are one of the top 10 teams in Europe

And any match between top 10 clubs would definitely be close. Just like Chelsea would refer to Arsenal.

Nihilist:


I dont exactly get your point. You're talking about movers and shakers and then saying Aduriz is better than Rooney.

My head hurts trying to understand your argument.

What has Aduriz won in his life? What has Rakitic achieved in his life? Vidal? Arda Turan?

Are you genuinely trying to compare a Wayne Rooney who is now in decline after winning almost everything there is to win at club level, to an Aduriz who is a football nobody?

My head hurts.

@bolded
Rakitić has won the same amount of UCL and Europa cup that your club has won tho'!

Bimffo:



What I am trying to point out is, Nobody bloody cares about the club status again. Everyone is after the money and the EPL is ready to offer that.

Really? Didn't you read about the crazy offer Man u made for Neymar? He is still a barca player and is not leaving any time soon.

homesteady:


Really? Didn't you read about the crazy offer Man u made for Neymar? He is still a barca player and is not leaving any time soon.

Yea. but You won't be there when United offers a ridiculous amount of money and Barca won't have any choice than to comply.

AdeLaNa1:
Bros! I no come here to fight.

Nawa o! Some of u Chelsea fans dont know wat it means to TROLL! Always taking things so personal...

I don't need to use a cheesy emoticon in my post before you realise that I aint taking anything personal.

I only presented a rebuttal to your ''troll claim''.

No hard feelings hombre.

Aduriz better than Rooney?

maybe I will go and google Aduriz and know what he has won in his career.

Bimffo:


Yea. but You won't be there when United offers a ridiculous amount of money and Barca won't have any choice than to comply.

This EPL fans sef! the way you guys are talking about the new TV deal is making it look like all the clubs would become a billion richer than they were.
From what I've read, Barcelona and Madrid would still earn more than the winner of epl, so stop getting excited over nothing Barcelona would soon sign a new shirt deal which would be more expensive than Man Utd's Chevrolet deal, and expect madrid to do so soon.

Ibime:

Pep Guardiola took Bayern from World Champions to mere local champions that get disgraced every UCL semifinal.

Can we say Mourinho took Chelsea from back to back European winners to European joke they are currently? even crashing out to a 10man team

SailorXY:
money can't buy class my azz. wait till Man City signs Messi before you shiver when you hear the word "money".

@Raumdeuter what do you think of City poaching KDB. isn't that taking Buli's best legs as well?
the way Madrid came for de Gea was the same way United came for Muller as well. the utterances of Muller doesn't rebound as someone who's committing his future to Bayern Munich.

over the years the EPL may have harmed themselves unknowingly, for example, City, Chelshit & United were in @ some point for Bale+Modric & they were ready to pay up but due to Levy not wanting to paint the image of Spurs being in lower tier (which they are with all due disrespect) having had some stunt in the UCL, they facilitated moves outside the league. the same could be seen in the case of Suarez & Arsenal (i admit Wenger na nincompoop), but then you get my drift.
without the feud between Liverpool & United; as well as Suarez' cannibalism, i seriously doubt Suarez will be anywhere else this moment.

Just wait till Muller and Neymar end up in the EPL. Then Raumdeuter and LaLiga fans ll be like....

homesteady:


This EPL fans sef! the way you guys are talking about the new TV deal is making it look like all the clubs would become a billion richer than they were.
From what I've read, Barcelona and Madrid would still earn more than the winner of epl, so stop getting excited over nothing Barcelona would soon sign a new shirt deal which would be more expensive than Man Utd's Chevrolet deal, and expect madrid to do so soon.

Lol. You think shirt deals and sponsorship has to deals with how many trophies you can win in a year? Manchester United has one of the best management team in football and that translate to the off the field deals which generate such growth of the club without what's happening on the pitch. Manchester Utd isn't called a global brand just for the sake of it. They have had sustained growth over the years, that's why they can get such deals.

raumdeuter:


That one na just banter. Arsenal is a good side and on their day they are one of the top 10 teams in Europe

And any match between top 10 clubs would definitely be close. LJust like Chelsea would refer to Arsenal.

Wow.

Our confidence is growing gradually i guess especially after pulling a goalless draw against Kiev.

My prediction..

West Ham 1 - Chelsea 2

raumdeuter:


Can we say Mourinho took Chelsea from back to back European winners to European joke they are currently? even crashing out to a 10man team

No, you'd rather say JM took Chelsea from a team that crashes out in UCL Group stage to the semifinal.

A team that never competed for the title in 4 years to competing overnight and winning it.

Another party go happen here?

larride:


Lol. You think shirt deals and sponsorship has to deals with how many trophies you can win in a year? Manchester United has one of the best management team in football and that translate to the off the field deals which generate such growth of the club without what's happening on the pitch. Manchester Utd isn't called a global brand just for the sake of it. They have had sustained growth over the years, that's why they can get such deals.

Your Internet is obviously working, google about the shirt deal.

And Barcelona is a local brand?

homesteady:


Your Internet is obviously working, google about the shirt deal.

And Barcelona is a local brand?

Which deal?

Sheybi ya President just return from negotiations in Qatar empty handed?

Even gan if the deal pure, na catch up una still dey play.

Barcelona is not a local brand. However, they are no match for the Worldwide brand that is Manure.

When most top clubs were still feeling funky with 20 - 30-something million per annum kit deals, Manure went through the rafters with a deal just shy of a billion!

Even their training kits get sponsor.

All these in a period of sporting misfortune.

Did you not see how the venue of the pre-season game between Manure and Barcelona became a 'Red Sea' of sorts?

It is pertinent to note that Barcelona went into that game as European Champions and Treble Winners. Whilst Manure were still smarting from the post SAF doldrums.

With a smaller capacity stadium, they still make more match-day revenue than Barcelona.

raumdeuter:


If City buys Messi, then the Messi they would be buying would be an almost expired Messi and paying over the top possibly 200M. Barca would then buy the next big thing while you are still admiring messi

After Ballack KdB is the next top player the EPl has been able to poach from the Buli, but the Buli has found a way to get around it by making smart buys of their own and developing their own players. You buy KdB, Wolfsburg buys Draxler who looks like the next big thing for 50M cheaper.

Remember KdB was an ex EPL player sold for 20m and now bought back for 80M

Imagine someone paid 35M for Firminho sorry but thats serious maga money. The same amount Costa and Vidal were bought.

EPL clubs coming to buy Fuchs, Joselu Okazaki is just a joke. Most of these guys are wrth next to nothing and are getting paid heavily
A season or 2 from now, Someone would just come and drop heavy money for Huntelaar, Ribery or Weidenfeller

Regarding Levy, Once players hear Madrid theres almost nothing you can do to stop it. Was it not the same Levy who sold Berbatov to Man utd?

if City manages to get the washed up Messi & he has one or two great seasons, aiding them to the UCL title, do we then infere that the deal was a success or failure?
Ballack & KdB are not alone on the list.
How about Hargreaves' move from Bayern to United cumulating to a UCL trophy for United despite it being a brief stint, success or not?
Kagawa was a Bundesliga elite when he moved over to EPL, it ultimately didn't turn out for the best due to RvP's late intro, Mata coming in during Moyes & the ever present masquerade known as the White Pele. A Bundesliga elite nonetheless!

Draxler being the next big thing is your imagination or expectation, KdB is already a big thing. Big difference, & yes by now we know money ain't a thing.

We all know Liverpool have more money than sense since the days of Suarez, so their falling for the fraud known as Firminho is no news. His agent did a good job linking him with big money to United & Liverpool fell for the bait.

If subjects in Bundesliga were digging their heels in, refusing to sell their best legs to Bayern, rather abroad we will have the same situation in Germany.

parrotibaba:
Another party go happen here?

You can bet your azz

raumdeuter:


Bale was EPL player of the season. Was any of Aguero Costa or Silva La Liga player of the year? Or would they have been top 3 at the time they left when Xavi, Dinho, Iniesta, Ramos, Casilas dey.

Even players like Deco, Michu, Cazorla Toure wouldnt say they are in the La Liga elite group

The top tier talents in La Liga for the past few years are Cassilas, Ronaldinho, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Ramos, and David Villa. These are the players that get mentioned when its Ballon D or time

Those ones rather than leave La Liga they would find a way to either Barca or Madrid. You know Costa and Aguero only scored >20 league goals just one season in their entire La Liga career

Costa just had one good season. actually that was the only season he scored more than 10 league goals. Like if Giroud who has been average for years scored 25goals this season

Some tier 2 stars that went from EPl to La Liga would be people like Song, Hleb, Vermalean, etc. You cant compare these class to Bale, Ronaldo and Suarez or Hazard(should he leave)

You kidding me bro you comparing costa at Athletico to giroud.Abeg which competition is Giroud facing for his postion that is equal to competing with Forlan,Aguero and finally a fire-brim Falcao.It was after this guys left he was able to shine in his last season.

I hope we win today.. . . I dont even care if its by luck or whatever. . 11th is not nice at all.

Lol Mourinho so predictable.

Ivanovic is coming back to that spot next week. Fabregas would continue his shit with no punishments

Chelsea team today: Begovic; Zouma, Cahill, Terry (c), Azpilicueta; Ramires, Matic; Willian, Fabregas, Hazard; Diego Costa.