Highcuerayte:
I put up Scripture references already so you go and read them.
Lucifer was then an angel of God,an Archangel to be precise.He ruled as King in the then world which recreated by God is now our planet earth.His name then was Lucifer.He decide to Ascend to heaven in the far north where God dwell but he failed because no Angel can Ascend up only God can Ascend and Descend.So when he failed he host up his angels for a showdown with God but was defeated and his Kingdom which was the world before our recreated world was destroyed by flood of water and God cause Sun to cease giving lights which is what you see in the second verse of Genesis. When defeated he became Satan by name.

EVarn:
I must commend your flair for theatrical comedy and fictional sci-fi.However,we are here to discuss scriptural intricasies,not quantum metaphysics or phylosophical parapsycology.
Scriptural backing is for your dramatic tale about kings ascending northern mountains or careening off southern cliffs.

Highcuerayte:
And that is the foolishness that makes the Jew and the Greeks stumble. You figure what that means out.
And for the record I didn't say "Sons" I said "A son" and "The Son"
What makes the Jew want to stone Jesus when he said he is the Son of God? You think they would have stoned him if he said he is a son of God? I tell you No. "The" makes the difference. "The Son of God " is not a title,it's a name only God bears.
Like I said throw away the gibberish you are taught and learn the Truth.

mayorall:




There are kings and there is King. Jesus is God's only begotten son. according to John 3:16.

There are sons and there is a Son.

EVarn:
"The Son of God" is a name only God bears?,how can God be his own son?,how can any entity be a son of himself?.
While I greatly applaud your ill-rehearsed cocoyam theories,I can hardly figure out any iota of logic from your post.

Highcuerayte:
You have no idea what the Word of God is and the knowledge it holds.Until you let go off the gibberish you are taught you will not understand a thing in the Bible.

Everything I wrote there are first hand knowledge from the Bible. You don't understand a thing in it you ask question.But as it is you don't have a learning mind but an arguing and debating mind but I don't argue on the Scripture people here know me for that. And since you are bent on arguing I say good bye. You can quote me when you have questions to ask.

EVarn:
Oh no,dont get me wrong.While I may disagree with you on various matters of celestial significance,you are very welcome to air your own opinions or belief on this thread.
Your posts are fast proving to be undisputed sources of amusement,as well as cautious enlightenment.

Highcuerayte:
Like I said they are foolishness to you and illogical as they were to the Jews when Jesus spoke of the Father to them.They had no idea the God of Abraham is a Trinity and they stumbled.But I pray you don't. And if you do may Christ you reject as God still help you stand.
Do try and get rid of those gibberish you are taught.

Highcuerayte:
You have scriptural evidence that contradict my teaching on nairaland you post them and stop quoting me unnecessarily lest I report you to the MOD and you will be dashed days ban.

EVarn:
There are many scriptural evidences that contradict your teachings.You havent proved that lucifer is satan or that angels arent THE sons of God.
Let me ask you this questions,I want to test your theological prowess: Were adam and eve really the first human beings on earth?,or were there other human beings outside the garden of eden?.

EVarn:
I do not reject Christ as God; I believe in the trinity.
However,we must understand certain factors of the scriptures; one of the things that makes me subscribe to the adventist movement is their zeal to unravel celestial mysteries.
Let us seek enlightenment.

EVarn:
PART 1:
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There have been many controversies concerning who Jesus was before he was born in flesh.
Diverse evidences have been presented; however,the most outstanding scriptural references strongly support the notion that [s]Jesus Christ was actually Arch-angel Michael.[/s]
Firstly,the name "michael" means "one who is like God"; We will come back to this in PART 2.
Let us examine,Dan 10:5-21 and Dan 12:1.
verse 13 of the first passage says:
"But the prince of the kingdom of persia{*satan} withstood me for twenty-one days: but,lo,Mi'chael,one of the chief princes{*one of the two seraphims of the presence of God},came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia."
In the second passage(Dan 12:1):
"And at that time shall Mi'chael stand up,the great prince which stand for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble,such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered,every one that shall be found written in the book."
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PART 2

EVarn:
This is the most ridiculous arguement I have heard for quite a while now,how is "son" different from "sons"?,isnt "sons" the plural of "son"?: how can angels who are "sons of God" be different from Jesus who is the "son of God"?,arent they all sons of God?.

Highcuerayte:
Theological prowess? I get it, you think am going analytical or am being taught what am saying.FYI I am an annointed teacher of the Bible, young in age but not in the knowledge of God and my teachings are first hand knowledge of God.So my teachings may or will not agree with your theological ideas.

I have proved Lucifer is Satan and I have as well explain angels are sons of God like Christians are but not the Son of God like Christians are not and like you said,bring out scriptural evidences that contradicts my teachings .That being said, Adams and Eve were the only and first human being to ever live on the surface of the earth after the extinction of the pre-adamites that was destroyed in the Lucifer's flood. Such remains, there were no human being outside the garden of Eden.

EVarn:
Who then did Cain marry?,Cain had no sister as at the time he settled in Nod and took a wife.
Explain the post-adam geneology using your "first hand knowledge of God".

Highcuerayte:
Adventist you say, unravel celestial mysteries. Brother I tell you in the name of God and the authority of Christ as the one of the two annointed that stands before the Lord of all the earth Adventist is a satanic movement emanated from the JW. They have the same purpose distracting people from Faith to Theology and Works of Law. I myself were an ex-adventist.If you are an elect of God you will sure be free from their bondage.I trust Christ from that.I questioned the same Adventist pastors on their teachings they could not give me answers rather they see me as someone condemning their teaching,an apostate.They had no answer to give in return then I remember the word of Christ ,"You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." I told them the Truth and they hated me for it. Those things they write for you in books are not Truth but Fables.
If you are an elect of God you will be freed one day.

vooks:

Men are also children of God, sons of you will. So, are they angels or are angels men?

EVarn:
Then it is logical to conclude that God has many sons,of which christ is his annointed firstborn.

EVarn:
Who then did Cain marry?,Cain had no sister as at the time he settled in Nod and took a wife.
Explain the post-adam geneology using your "first hand knowledge of God".

EVarn:
I'm no more a dedicated adventist.

vooks:

It is logical to conclude that such conclusions can only come from ret@rded mindsj

Am still waiting for proof that Jesus is Michael

Once again
Michael is a chief angel
Jesus is NOT an angel

Highcuerayte:
Cain had sisters my brother. In fact Cain was not Adam first born. Gen 4:1 Eve said "I have gotten a man from God" meaning beforehand when they reproduced they only have daughters no son was given to them.But this time they got a son from the Lord.Moreover Gen 5:4 Adam thereafter beget sons and daughters again. And that my friend is where Cain got his wife.
But I don't see how the knowledge of the post adamite will help your faith or the reader's faith. So as the Scripture I should have nothing to do with senseless genealogies.

EVarn:
Your scriptural analysis is quite opaque.
Gen 1:27 said "So God created man in his own image,in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them".
There are two possibilities;
(1) God created a woman before eve,the woman was later exiled from the garden of Eden.
(2) Cain and Seth married their sisters,which is seen as an abomination before God.

Highcuerayte:
That my brother Is not a deal. Their mark Is on you brother. And you have to get rid of it.

EVarn:
What mark?,I was influenced into adventism by my parent anyway,however,not all their doctrines are completely misguided.

Highcuerayte:
No lie my brother is of the Truth. 99% Truth and 1% lie is 100% lies.