CabbieAC:



I once spoke about this one of my previous comments, this PDP/APC nonsense are part of the problems we yorubas have. Yorubas will sabotage the efforts of fellow Yorubas because they don't support the same party. In ondo state for example, there is an OAU lecturer who refines untapped crude bitumen in Agbabu, Irele of Ondo State, to Cold Mix Asphalt but guess what he's APC chieftain in Ondo State and Ondo state is controlled by PDP.The same man gave the Ondo state government suggestions on how to manage the bitumen in Ondo state, till date we haven't heard anything

CabbieAC:



I once spoke about this one of my previous comments, this PDP/APC nonsense are part of the problems we yorubas have. Yorubas will sabotage the efforts of fellow Yorubas because they don't support the same party. In ondo state for example, there is an OAU lecturer who refines untapped crude bitumen in Agbabu, Irele of Ondo State, to Cold Mix Asphalt but guess what he's APC chieftain in Ondo State and Ondo state is controlled by PDP.The same man gave the Ondo state government suggestions on how to manage the bitumen in Ondo state, till date we haven't heard anything

CabbieAC:



I once spoke about this in one of my previous comments. [b]This PDP/APC nonsense are part of the problems we yorubas have. Yorubas will sabotage the efforts of fellow Yorubas because they don't support the same party. In ondo state for example, there is an OAU lecturer who refines untapped crude bitumen in Agbabu, Irele of Ondo State, to Cold Mix Asphalt but guess what, he's an APC chieftain in Ondo State and Ondo state is controlled by PDP.The same man gave the Ondo state government suggestions on how to manage the bitumen in Ondo state, till date we haven't heard anything[/b]

zimoni:


Yes, you are right. I know the Scientist.

One of our major problems in Yorubaland is sabotage (Abode or Igbeyinbeboje).

I noticed some Yoruba dudes have been avoiding this thread because they don't want to post anything that would annoy their paymasters.

The APC/PDP brouhaha is really sabotaging a lot of things. If you are not a member of their political party, they won't have anything to do with you no matter how good the idea is.

God deliver us from saboteurs aka sabo.

9jacrip:


Alale oni je ki wan d'ale.

Awon jegudu jera.

Emilokoiyawon:



Aareonan
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The ONLY way to change politicians is to make them suffer severely in the polls. I will classify the need to strengthen our political system under Short-term/immediate goals. We have Sowere's SaharaTV model (very instrumental in exposing GJ incompetence and consequent ouster) as a model will can bring to bear on SW politics. Also, we should study America's conservative REDSTATE model - which using its website, forum and gathering to push the Republican Party farther to the right - leading to the primaryING of candidates who fail their litmus test on Conservativism. Of course, to kick-start, we have to find a way to inform and engage Yorubas on the ground. Anyone with ideas on how this can be done should respond accordingly.

Emilokoiyawon:
Ultimately, we have to approach this on TWO different fronts.

1) Short-term/immediate goals: design and implement models that would enhance our (Yorubas) development in the current Nigerian structure. The good news is that we don't have to (for the most part, I believe) reinvent the wheel in advancing (as best as its possible within today's Nigeria) our region. How can things be better than what they are now for us? Politically? Economically? In education? Infrastructure etc. I believe there are models around the world that we can borrow from to make this possible.

2)Long-term goal: Here an independent Oduduwa Nation is the goal or at the very least a very independent South-West in a regional Nigeria. No matter how successful we become under the present Nigerian structure, we will always fall victim to mass migration of our region from the our less fortunate Nigerian neighbors. The Igbos have been doing this for decades, and now we see how even the Fulani-herdsmen are increasingly finding their way into the center of our abode. Until we are able to control migration from non-Yoruba enclaves, we will always be limited in our ability to stand out. As more and more non-Yorubas flood daily into the SW our culture (especially Ede Yooba) will continue to suffer the consequence.

CabbieAC:




How will you make them suffer severely in the polls when its still one of those two parties you will vote for.Its like spinning around the same pole.If you don't vote PDP, Is it KOWA you will vote for?

IlekeHD:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/2997773_twimg20151025141252_pngec0ed147201991406f8d3c368cfc0b1f

What do you guys think about this?

9jacrip:


I see passion for Yoruba in your post.

Eni ma tun ori omo tuntun se o kin jina si,

Eni ma tun atupa se o kin ji na si,

Eni to ba ma tun nkan to ku die k'ito ni ile aye yin se o ni jina si yin o egbon mi.

I still think the way to achieve the short and long term goals (I believe we should pursue both) but before it can be a success, loyalty to party has to be made secondary. People have to sensitized to put Yoruba first, no matter what.

Afenifere and the militant arm, the OPC need to re-invent themselves and their membership.

IlekeHD:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/2997773_twimg20151025141252_pngec0ed147201991406f8d3c368cfc0b1f

What do you guys think about this?

Emilokoiyawon:


I see acres of room for improvement. Yet another opportunity for the Yoruba-nation (as it were) to cloak itself in glory. Anyone from Ekiti who will like to help us get a full picture on what is really going on on the ground?

CabbieAC:
Emilokoiyawon as per short term and long term goals, Regional Autonomy should be short term and Sovereignty should be our long term goal

9jacrip:

The emboldened makes a lot of sense.
Many Yoruba think they have a good relationship with the Hausa or that Yoruba and Hausa share a good level of understanding when it comes to the scheme of how Nigeria goes. To me, the fact is, Igbo people given their non-cordial relationship with the North are the reason the Hausa can look to Yoruba for connivance against the Igbo. Once they're able to exit, you'll see things go down the drain fast with the Yoruba Hausa lovers.

The second emboldened is becoming replicated in the Swest. Yoruba, even from the same states picking different destinies and different goals rather than have a common one.

CabbieAC:



I once spoke about this in one of my previous comments. This PDP/APC nonsense are part of the problems we yorubas have. Yorubas will sabotage the efforts of fellow Yorubas because they don't support the same party. In ondo state for example, there is an OAU lecturer who refines untapped crude bitumen in Agbabu, Irele of Ondo State, to Cold Mix Asphalt but guess what, he's an APC chieftain in Ondo State and Ondo state is controlled by PDP.The same man gave the Ondo state government suggestions on how to manage the bitumen in Ondo state, till date we haven't heard anything

Emilokoiyawon:





O ri e pe jare. A kin fi oju oloju si owo ka je re. Our culture, our challenges, our solutions. To se ye ko ri ni yen.

See my post on the REDSTATE model which can be a start in addressing the problem of blind party loyalty.

ProfShymex:


The Hausa/Fulani alignment is just a political one and with the way those who're part of that alignment are being cheated...I honestly doubt it will last long, to be honest.

Yorubas are just everywhere. They have a faction that worship Igbos and are scared that if Igbos were to leave the union, their lives would automatically be miserable cos of probably the primeval nollywood movies they watch or the cheap and substandard China manufactured Igbo goods they buy. Then you have got the ones who think revenues can be generated only via the oil wealth and without the oil wealth Yorubas are doomed. And finally, the ones who believe they would go hungry with food from the North. That's how utterly ridiculous, shallow, and unintelligent a lot of these folks are. This is just my personal observation.

The funniest thing is that: Yorubas can easily replace all these things in no time. However, these folks are just too mentally lazy to think ahead and have the foresight that it's greener on the other side. At least a Yoruba country would grow exponentially and folks would be able to do things - without the shackles that come with the Nigerian quagmire. As for Nigeria, its ceiling will never be higher than what South Africa is today, developmentally (I honestly doubt Nigeria will ever be as developed as South Africa, especially with the crazy population growth and unstable oil prices).

CabbieAC:

Not too encouraging. hopefully it gets better

Emilokoiyawon:


I see acres of room for improvement. Yet another opportunity for the Yoruba-nation (as it were) to cloak itself in glory. Anyone from Ekiti who will like to help us get a full picture on what is really going on on the ground?

ProfShymex:


The Hausa/Fulani alignment is just a political one and with the way those who're part of that alignment are being cheated...I honestly doubt it will last long, to be honest.

Yorubas are just everywhere. They have a faction that worship Igbos and are scared that if Igbos were to leave the union, their lives would automatically be miserable cos of probably the primeval nollywood movies they watch or the cheap and substandard China manufactured Igbo goods they buy. Then you have got the ones who think revenues can be generated only via the oil wealth and without the oil wealth Yorubas are doomed. And finally, the ones who believe they would go hungry without food from the North. That's how utterly ridiculous, shallow, and unintelligent a lot of these folks are. This is just my personal observation.

The funniest thing is that: Yorubas can easily replace all these things in no time. However, these folks are just too mentally lazy to think ahead and have the foresight that it's greener on the other side. At least a Yoruba country would grow exponentially and folks would be able to do things - without the shackles that come with the Nigerian quagmire. As for Nigeria, its ceiling will never be higher than what South Africa is today, developmentally (I honestly doubt Nigeria will ever be as developed as South Africa, especially with the crazy population growth and unstable oil prices).

I once asked this random Yoruba guy who falls into this category why he doesn't support an independent Yoruba nation, the fffooool told me because his girlfriend is Igbo



I said bro "YOU ARE MMMAAAAD!"


We're talking about the future of the Yoruba nation, fool was telling me he doesn't support it because of one yam-legged mawffugah

Emilokoiyawon:

Interesting observation. However, whatever the case maybe we don't need to worry too much about the mentally lazy folks as long as they are not in position of power. All we got to do is rid our leadership of them. Put leadership in the hands of visionary, proactive, pro-Yoruba men and women. When the masses begin to see the results of the socio-political reorientation then they will gladly fall in line, and bid farewell to their Igbo/Fulani love affair.

ProfShymex:


The Hausa/Fulani alignment is just a political one and with the way those who're part of that alignment are being cheated...I honestly doubt it will last long, to be honest.

Yorubas are just everywhere. They have a faction that worship Igbos and are scared that if Igbos were to leave the union, their lives would automatically be miserable cos of probably the primeval nollywood movies they watch or the cheap and substandard China manufactured Igbo goods they buy. Then you have got the ones who think revenues can be generated only via the oil wealth and without the oil wealth Yorubas are doomed. And finally, the ones who believe they would go hungry without food from the North. That's how utterly ridiculous, shallow, and unintelligent a lot of these folks are. This is just my personal observation.

The funniest thing is that: Yorubas can easily replace all these things in no time. However, these folks are just too mentally lazy to think ahead and have the foresight that it's greener on the other side. At least a Yoruba country would grow exponentially and folks would be able to do things - without the shackles that come with the Nigerian quagmire. As for Nigeria, its ceiling will never be higher than what South Africa is today, developmentally (I honestly doubt Nigeria will ever be as developed as South Africa, especially with the crazy population growth and unstable oil prices).

ProfShymex:
I'm surprised no one noticed how a lot of the Yoruba folks I posted have dreads on their heads and no one asked me why.

MayorofLagos:


We dont need to have parallels. DAWN is a great initiative and a forum for cooperation and alingment in the commonwealth. Before we start new things how about getting updates on what we already had going and ask "where are we on DAWN"?

zimoni:


Yes, you are right. I know the Scientist.

One of our major problems in Yorubaland is sabotage(Abode or Igbeyinbeboje).

I noticed some Yoruba dudes have been avoiding this thread because they don't want to post anything that would annoy their paymasters.

The APC/PDP brouhaha is really sabotaging a lot of things. If you are not a member of their political party, they won't have anything to do with you no matter how good the idea is.

God deliver us from saboteurs aka sabo.