Aareonakakanfo:
Profshymex what if we make the mistake of posting the same thing

laudate:

Hmmn... this is a tough question. And I say so because I have friends and acquaintances from that area.
When you live in close proximity with another tribe like those in Kwara and Kogi have done for most of their life, then you agree that there is bound to be a heavy dose of acculturation, inter-marriage and blending with other ethnic groups, inside those communities.
While doing my industrial training, I was posted to Ilorin and I witnessed first hand families that had a heavy blend of Yoruba & Fulani influences.
Their great grandfather was Fulani, but through succeeding generations of intermarriage and acculturation, their children and grandchildren now bear Yoruba names and speak Yoruba language fluently. The religious factor of Islam is also there.
But heavy traces of Pulaku, the Fulani culture is entrenched in their daily lifestyle. In addition to that, most of these families were considered Northern minorities in the days of the old Sardauna Ahmadu Bello. Despite his strongly spartan Fulani outlook, Sardauna believed in fairness and transparency and gave all the Northern minorities free scholarship to study abroad and in local institutions.
He did not discriminate among them, even though his fellow core Northerners were not as accommodating or tolerant as he was, with respect to education. When it was time to send his first 11 to make up the core civil service, he chose some of the brightest minds among the minority groups, including the Okun. When he picked his kitchen cabinet, he also made sure the Northern minorities were involved, especially the Okun Yoruba. And that is why till date, a lot of them like the late SB Awoniyi, late SB Daniyan, Justice Akanbi, the Oniyangi etc., saw themselves as Northerners, despite the fact that they were from the Yoruba, or Okun sub-ethnic group.
I would suggest a rapprochement with this group, and a careful approach to sound them out on where their thoughts lie, with respect to aligning with the South-western Yorubas.
I hope I have not offended anyone with my explanations. It was just a bid to shed more light on the matter and not to cause disrespect in any way. Thanks.

Aareonakakanfo:
I don't know the name of this particular awujale of Ijebulandwww.nairaland.com/attachments/3001814_106855556410139960045929168854782223139151n_jpeg940f11bd52d37faeb00079e5ae556bef

ProfShymex:



That should be Awujale Ademuyewo Fidipote and the governor of Lagos in 1865.

I believe the meeting was held in Epe.

IlekeHD:
I believe you. Look at the Saraki family: Fulani grandfather, Yoruba mother, Yoruba wife, etc.

You echoed modath's thought about Yorubas being too impartial ....... that's our downfall.

Igbos want the Biafran interest, North have the Northern agenda, what do Yorubas want/have?

IlekeHD:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3001814_106855556410139960045929168854782223139151n_jpeg940f11bd52d37faeb00079e5ae556bef

My kinda guy.

Christianity/Islam ....... a dangerous tool. It has been used by world powers to stunt the growth of the black race.

WIZGUY69:
The fact is that most Yoruba from Kara prefer aligning with sw Yorubas more than any group/tribe in Nigeria.
I have alot of Kwara Yoruba friends. I see no difference between we and them (just the geographical maps that distinct us.
in fact, if I want to tease them or mock them, I will tell them they are from Northern part of of Nigeria. they will be like "ori e ope"

ProfShymex:


Lol.

The Egba were the ones who finally succeeded in taking Christianity to Ijebuland. The went through Remo and once Christianity gained a foothold there - it went to other parts of Ijebuland.

IlekeHD:


Wouldn't surprise me if I find out that Aareonakakanfo is actually from Egba. The man sounds like a pastor and it's suspicious that he doesn't want to discuss religion with an atheist.

The most frustrating I hear from my Yorubas people is "God will take control. leave it, don't worry about tomorrow". WTF?

Lmaoooo Pastor ko Alfa ni .The reason why I avoid religious discussions is because it ends up in conflict

IlekeHD:


Wouldn't surprise me if I find out that Aareonakakanfo is actually from Egba. The man sounds like a pastor and it's suspicious that he doesn't want to discuss religion with an atheist.

The most frustrating I hear from my Yorubas people is "God will take control. leave it, don't worry about tomorrow". WTF?

IlekeHD:
So modath is a chick........I thought she was a guy lol


@ coolitempa, I see you observing.

ProfShymex:
Akikenju Oba Adétutu Akinmu, King of Shabè. Savé, Republic Du Benin.

Aareonakakanfo:

Lmaoooo Pastor ko Alfa ni .The reason why I avoid religious discussions is because it ends up in conflict

ProfShymex:


Lol.

But Ijebu had a lot Muslims even when Christians were persecuted and they embraced Islam cos of trading, hence there are more Ijebu Muslims than Christians. However, I think they just never trusted white folks.

The funniest thing is that the Ijebus were the first to have contacts with white people and started trading Ijebu clothes to them from like the 14th century or so. So why Islam was allowed before Christianity is still a mystery to me.

Anyway, are you an atheist?...you sound like my boy.

laudate:


Wow! I remember going to Dantokpa market (not sure if that is the right spelling!) in Cotonou with a friend. We got there and tried to buy some local stuff. I was completely clueless because I couldn't speak French. But thank God, my friend could speak fantastic Yoruba, (he is an Owo chap) and within a matter of minutes he was conversing freely with the traders and we got some really nice bargains.

modath:


Guilty as charged...

Don't mind that moniker, na amalgamation of many things, & the fact that my oversabi plenty in politics as against Romance or Celebrity, i get the assumption..