What about If u talk to him/her and she still persist. But parents should know when to beat a child and when to counsel a child. Imagine a little kid saw apple and started crying mummy I want apple and because the parent doesn't have the money to buy for the kid, will d parent beat the child so as to stop crying or talk to the child? Beating should be done when necessary

Kalvan:


Scientific study versus anecdotal evidence? Yeah, I'll stick with the study.

not all scientific studies are ryt

Captainswag225:
it keeps kids in check....

it makes them disciplined

it ensures kids do their responsibilities

I can do all this without beatings.

JOOHEL:
A VERY TOUCHING STORY.
A little gal saw a dead cat on the road on her way back from school. She was so sad because she loved cats so she touched it, she touched it again, she touched it and touched it. She paused for a while den she touched it again. She went home to change into new clothes and came back to touch it again.She kept touching.. . As I told u earlier its a touching story.

Mindfulness:


I can do all this without beatings.

that's cool but it doesn't work on every child

Mindfulness:


They don't know better. They pass onto the children what was passed onto them hoping that the same old methods will bring about better results.

It is a sign of ignorance and helplessness.

This is not an abuse, it's a way and manner of teaching! Awe

deeone10:
What about If u talk to him/her and she still persist. But parents should know when to beat a child and when to counsel a child. Imagine a little kid saw apple and started crying mummy I want apple and because the parent doesn't have the money to buy for the kid, will d parent beat the child so as to stop crying or talk to the child? Beating should be done when necessary

If a child wants something I can't afford, I will tell the child that I can't afford it. Very simple. If it persists and starts crying, I will ignore it. The child will very quickly learn that throwing tantrums does not work on me.

Dyt:
DO NOT BEATVMY CHILD
I MEAN DO NOT
I can beat myself but not you

then go and create a world for you and your child. Why send them to school, it's now character and learning, if you're not satisfied, then go to hell

Disneylady:

This is not an abuse, it's a way and manner of teaching! Awe

I didn't use the word abuse. And secondly this is not a way of manner, this is a crude way of raising a child.

Mindfulness:

They don't know better. They pass onto the children what was passed onto them hoping that the same old methods will bring about better results.
It is a sign of ignorance and helplessness.

Well said.

Captainswag225:
that's cool but it doesn't work on every child

Your opinion and I don't share it.

Mindfulness:


They don't know better. They pass onto the children what was passed onto them hoping that the same old methods will bring about better results.

It is a sign of ignorance and helplessness.

Did you just say ignorance? Even learned pple scold their kids does that make the parents ignorant and the children helpless....i tire for both of you oooooo. Smh

Disneylady:

Did you just say ignorance? Even learned pple scold their kids does that make the parents ignorant and the children helpless....i tire for both of you oooooo. Smh

Yes, I said ignorance. Do you know what ignorance means? Do you know that "learned people" can be ignorant too?

No one dares lay a finger on my Jr or else there will be war.

A little bit of whipping/beating, A little bit of talking, setting/showing a lot of good examples and A little bit of punishment should do the trick for the parent/teacher.

Mindfulness:


If a child wants something I can't afford, I will tell the child that I can't afford it. Very simple. If it persists and starts crying, I will ignore it. The child will very quickly learn that throwing tantrums does not work on me.

here in US they think giving the child that freedom will make them better, no it makes them stupid and ignorant. I came here to meet my cousin of 5 still wearing diaper, still cannot feed himself or listen to teachers. His comments from school were annoying and disrespectful. I developed the mild Nigerian approach. He constantly walk 3 miles to school, no more car drop off, no more shows, no more toys like before. I show up at his school to see if he is paying attention or he's busy playing when others are sleeping. Everything has time, I constantly spank him the better way. I was with him for 3 months and I was able to change all those useless attitude.

Children sometimes needs strong hand. Now the dad spends no money on diaper. When he starts misbehaving, the grandma calls me and when they give him the phone, he shivers and would stop misbehaving. The dude is now a calm guy.

JOOHEL:
A VERY TOUCHING STORY.
A little gal saw a dead cat on the road on her way back from school. She was so sad because she loved cats so she touched it, she touched it again, she touched it and touched it. She paused for a while den she touched it again. She went home to change into new clothes and came back to touch it again.She kept touching.. . As I told u earlier its a touching story.

abeg na which kind jokes be this ?

In our days at school, we were beaten black & white without any parents authorisation. Things are completely different now. My commerce teacher used to beat us at the back of the fingers with a ruler. He called it "fo kaa".. fingers breaker, I suppose.

slimmy05:
here in US they think giving the child that freedom will make them better, no it makes them stupid and ignorant. I came here to meet my cousin of 5 still wearing diaper, still cannot feed himself or listen to teachers. His comments from school were annoying and disrespectful. I developed the mild Nigerian approach. He constantly walk 3 miles to school, no more car drop off, no more shows, no more toys like before. I show up at his school to see if he is paying attention or he's busy playing when others are sleeping. Everything has time, I constantly spank him the better way. I was with him for 3 months and I was able to change all those useless attitude.

Children sometimes needs strong hand. Now the dad spends no money on diaper. When he starts misbehaving, the grandma calls me and when they give him the phone, he shivers and would stop misbehaving. The dude is now a calm guy.

First of all, the fact that your cousin was still wearing diapers at the age of five speaks volumes of his parents.
Secondly, the fact that he was wearing diapers at the age of five is definitely not because he wasn't spanked else all kids whose parents do not spank them would still wear diapers at the age of five but this is not the case.
Thirdly, I was not encouraging parents to spoil their kids with shows, expensive toys and whatever.
Fourthly, not all American kids are stu.pid and ignorant.
Fifthly, there are MANY American parents who still spank their kids.

And last but not least, we are actually talking about teachers and students here.

raayah:
Physical abuse should not be banned everywhere in Nigeria.
Children should not be flogged for any reason whatsoever.

If you flog/slap/beat your children in order to discipline them, don't come to nairaland to cry when police and soldier flog you too in the name of discipline. After all it's the same thing.

so if you catch your son stealing and tou beat him, is that not discipline ?


Abeg na which herbalist kidnap your brain ?

Mindfulness:


Your opinion and I don't share it.

okay we all agree to disagree so its cool

The Next Time You’re Ready To Give Up On A Student

by Terry Heick

Few teachers will ever admit to “giving up” on a student.

None that I know would ever outright turn their back on a child, but that doesn’t mean it’s always easy to know how to give that support–especially when they seem to make the same kind of mistakes again and again. It’s hard to know what’s going on in a child’s life; even if you know the facts of their “living situation,” that doesn’t come close to actually understanding their challenges.

Or how close they are to making or breaking their future altogether.

The next time you think about giving up on a student, consider the following story. It appeared on a mixed martial arts website recently, and features comments from fighter Josh Neer.


“I kept getting a bunch of drinking tickets when I was underage, and eventually, after you get so many, you’re ineligible,” he said. “I got another one, and I was supposed to sit out my whole senior year.”

Neer got this news in the principal’s office. He didn’t take it well.

“I got all pissed off and said ‘f–k this’ and stormed out,” he said. “For the next week I was just not in a good place, thinking f–k the whole world and that I was going to do whatever I wanted to do.” The principal, aptly named Mr. Hook, was thinking something else.

“(He) came to me and told me he was going to the school board meeting and try to work it out so I could at least wrestle and play baseball,” Neer said. “I was always a real a–hole to this principal. He was the last person I’d thought would ever help me out like that.”

But Mr. Hook persuaded the school board to let Neer keep his eligibility, and he was at least able to stay on the mats and on the baseball field, even if the gridiron would be off-limits.

“That was a pivotal time in my life, where I felt like if I wasn’t going to be able to wrestle or play any sports, I was probably going to go downhill from there, because I didn’t have anything to look forward to. I was able to look forward to competing in sports, especially in your senior year. You don’t want to have to sit out.”

Neer still talks to the principal, who eventually transferred to another school. He now looks out for the kids that come into his gym in Des Moines, doing his best to be a positive role model.

http://www.teachthought.com/teaching/give-up-on-a-student/




"I remember an exceptional American history teacher in high school during my junior year. I was impressed with his love of the subject and his teaching talent. He went out of his way throughout the year to encourage me to speak up in class. He sensed that I was shy, so, in measured steps and with great skill he asked more and more of me in terms of participating and projecting in discussions. He believed in me and gently pushed me to face what I found hardest to do -- speak in the public arena. I will never forget him."

"In sixth grade, I had trouble understanding science terms worded other than as glossary meanings. A teacher told me I could still know the answers if explained to me the way I understood them. She took time to give an oral science test. It boosted my confidence, and I was able to do written tests from thereafter."

http://www.ldonline.org/article/6155/

So when you beat or "discipline" a child, you do it out of love right? So this child will grow up thinking that love must hurt right?.. Discipline can be done without having to beat your child because sincerely it is very confusing for a child, I mean one minute you are beating them the next u are telling them sorry, at that tender age how do you think they take that.
I am against flogging sha but that is my own opinion

Mindfulness:


First of all, the fact that your cousin was still wearing diapers at the age of five speaks volumes of his parents.
Secondly, the fact that he was wearing diapers at the age of five is definitely not because he wasn't spanked else all kids whose parents do not spank them would still wear diapers at the age of five but this is not the case.
Thirdly, I was not encouraging parents to spoil their kids with shows, expensive toys and whatever.
Fourthly, not all American kids are stu.pid and ignorant.
Fifthly, there are MANY American parents who still spank their kids.

And last but not least, we are actually talking about teachers and students here.

Now what's the difference between me standing in as his new teacher and delivery that sense of attitude into him. Do you have to be in a classroom to be a teacher?

slimmy05:
Now what's the difference between me standing in as his new teacher and delivery that sense of attitude into him. Do you have to be in a classroom to be a teacher?

This is what the thread is about, teachers in the school context, not family members who see themselves as mentors.

AdeniyiA:
Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Foolishness is part of the Bible.

Its wrong to flog a child. Flogging hardens som1, lowers self confidence and esteem. Then there is also the issue of abuse. Most kids especially househelps are tortured all in the name of sparing the rod and spoiling the child. Most times children are beaten for useless reasons. This is bc parents transfer their aggression on their kids out of frustration. Nigerian parents do not know much abt parenting. Flogging does not make one responsible bc if it does we will the most responsible nation on earth. Instead it hardens ones spirit and make one corrupt. Most parents dont hav relationship with their kids. They dnt teach them anything. They are left with nannies all in the name of looking for money. They hardly spend time with their kids. They hardly show love and get to know them personally. So most of wat ds kids learn is from friends. You find out that friends influence them more bc they are always there for them. The best way of having responsible kids is by been very close to them. Be som1 they admire and respect. Trust me they wiĺl always want to be like u if u lead by example

Mindfulness:


This is what the thread is about, teachers in the school context, not family members who see themselves as mentors.

This is a reference point where it should start, if parents fail to do their job, teachers will help and if parents do their job teachers won't be in that situation.

I would like to discipline my child myself. Some teachers might take advantage of the privilege. No one can discipline my child better than I could. So the teacher's duty is to teach and relate to the child's parents any ill behaviour. Let parents handle their children. It's good to to discipline your child.

Beating is important oooo.....
Ehn if denrele had been flogged properly him for no turn out lyk dis na.......in fact if my pikin do anyhw...i go design timetable for caning for am

Bible talk say the madness wey dey pikin body , na cane go scatter am, and na the same bible say spare the rod and spoil the child. Which way na?