That worship days isn't sunday but Saturday
That only Isrealite can be followers of Yehaousha
That every single festivities in Christianity is man made...





all these claims are true?

Very true op.
There is a hard truth that only few will believe.

1.Saturday is the seventh day of the week which implies a Sabbath or rest. now, the rest goes beyond abstaining from physical work but resting from the ;works of the flesh"(galatians 5;19-21). Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God). So as spiritual Israelites, the demand is to enter into His rest from the works of the flesh through worship. worship is not when you got to church and sing to God. worship is a totality of sanctified life to Christ. Literarily, Worship is on Sabbath day.( leaving a live devoid of works of the flesh)

2.The name of the Messiah of Israel is “Yeshua,” the One whom the Christians call “Jesus"
only true spiritual isrealites can be followers of Jesus, for the gentiles have been grafted into that fig tree (isreal). All these gospel of father , son and the holyghost or trinity is from the pit of hell. there is only one God and his name is Jesus Christ. people don't know what it means when they say "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father"

3.Christmas, Easter, and all other so called festivities are inspired of the devil. That doesn't mean Jesus Christ wasn't born, that doesn't mean He didn't die and resurrect.

The claims are true and I testify to everyone of them.

ORIENTNIGERIA:
Very true op.
There is a hard truth that only few will believe.

A hard one indeed.

1.Saturday is the seventh day of the week which implies a Sabbath or rest. now, the rest goes beyond abstaining from physical work but resting from the ;works of the flesh"(galatians 5;19-21). Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God). So as spiritual Israelites, the demand is to enter into His rest from the works of the flesh through worship. worship is not when you got to church and sing to God. worship is a totality of sanctified life to Christ. Literarily, Worship is on Sabbath day.( leaving a live devoid of works of the flesh)

This caught my eyes about how bad (deceit) Christians can be interpreting some verses in the Bible such as Gal 5:19-21 saying anything about the Sabbath. And assuming it does then...

Exodus 20:10- But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, northy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:"

...cattle are to abstain from envying one another, commiting fornication, commiting adultery, averring heresies, practicing witchcraft and idolatory, or getting drunk, evolving hatred and the likes on the Sabbath?

I won't be surprised if you say YES, or gimme this run-away response "you need the Holy Spirit to read the Bible"

2.The name of the Messiah of Israel is “Yeshua,” the One whom the Christians call “Jesus"
only true spiritual isrealites can be followers of Jesus, for the gentiles have been grafted into that fig tree (isreal). All these gospel of father , son and the holyghost or trinity is from the pit of hell. there is only one God and his name is Jesus Christ. people don't know what it means when they say "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father"

Perhaps you would have realized how worse you would have gotten here if you had read the context of that message...

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and GAVE HIM the name that is above every name...

(We've got two identities; a giver and a receiver)

You gave a conflicting evidence to prove a claim.

3.Christmas, Easter, and all other so called festivities are inspired of the devil. That doesn't mean Jesus Christ wasn't born, that doesn't mean He didn't die and resurrect.

The claims are true and I testify to everyone of them.

I understood that tho.

Pr0ton:


A hard one indeed.



This caught my eyes about how bad (deceit) Christians can be interpreting some verses in the Bible such as Gal 5:19-21 saying anything about the Sabbath. And assuming it does then...

Exodus 20:10- But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, northy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:"

...cattle are to abstain from envying one another, commiting fornication, commiting adultery, averring heresies, practicing witchcraft and idolatory, or getting drunk, evolving hatred and the likes on the Sabbath?

I won't be surprised if you say YES, or gimme this run-away response "you need the Holy Spirit to read the Bible"



Perhaps you would have realized how worse you would have gotten here if you had read the context of that message...

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and GAVE HIM the name that is above every name...

(We've got two identities; a giver and a receiver)

You gave a conflicting evidence to prove a claim.



I understood that tho.

Very well said proton. thanks for taking very "minute" detail. My I state that I believe the bible 100% both old and new testament.
back to the Sabbath and referring to the scripture you quoted.
Exodus 20:10- But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:"
The old testament is a shadow of the new testament an they perfectly intertwine with the new testament. . (I don't claim absolute knowledge ).
We have no command whatsoever to keep Saturday for a Sabbath, nor do we have any commandment to keep the first day of the week, which is Sunday, as a Sabbath.
Many people keeps days. Others make Sunday an idol, a worship day. Others make Saturday as the worship day. Both the Sunday worshipper and the Sabbath keeper are absolutely wrong, according to the Word of God. Sabbath to a Christian is no longer the keeping of holy days, new moons or seasons. It means "eternal rest" to one's soul by the New Birth. We have to go by the Word of God, not by what the Adventists say, nor by what the Protestant says, nor by what the Catholic says. Hebrews 4:8, "For if Jesus had given them REST (or rest day), then would He not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest (Sabbath keeping) to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His."
How we receive this rest, or continuing Sabbath, is at the invitation of Jesus. He said in Matthew 11:28,29, "Come unto Me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me;... and ye shall find rest (or keeping of the Sabbath, not a day, but eternal life, Sabbath) unto your souls."

Now, you know well that in those times, majority were largely agrarian. and there is no way a cattle or any animal can work except a man put it into a state of work, so I believe that God wasn't mistaking when he included animals. for an animal to work, that means a human is working and that negates His commandments, hence the last phrase "within thy gates"


The God head is the most controversial teaching of the scripture and the scripture can not be wrong. The doctrine of the trinity is the only uniting force among all Christian denomination today despite their varying degree of differences. it unites the seemingly at logger heads catholic, Anglican and the "rebel" protestant denomination . There must be something about it. Even Judaism and the Islam disagree, so also Buddhism ,Hinduism, Sikhism and the various religions scattered around the world. Each religion can point to their deity and give you the name of their deity but ask the Christian 'Who is your God?" ; "God', "Jesus" are the responses that takes a large. How be it that the word "God" is an object of worship.

based on your scripture quotation; every scripture intertwines and as such, a scripture cant be quoted within its entirety without a reference back up. If I may ask, when God appeard unto Moses in the desert; Was God not in heaven and yet still manifested Himself as a burning bush ?, in another place, God was with the children of isreal in a cloud by day and pillar of fire by night, that doesn't mean he left heaven. God has an omnipotent characteristic that's why He is called 'Jehovah'; the self becoming one. for the sake of mankind's redemption, He came in form of man to die, hence the misunderstood nature of two gods.

Lets view the God head in the light of the scriptures.

Deuteronomy . 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.


hebrew1;1-3 .God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:



zechariah 12:4-10 ( please take note of the bolded items)

4 In that day, saith the Lord, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the Lord of hosts their God.

6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

7 The Lord also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.

8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.

9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.


the verse above is in line with John 19;34-37 being fulfilled.

34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.

36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.

37 And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.



Revelation 1:7-19

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty

9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

[/b]19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. [b]The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Warrisdis

Whether the Sabbath is on Sunday or Saturday is of no issue between you and me, but the purpose of the Sabbath - to rest from works. I would have quoted out incidents that point to the physical work as the work to rest from, but as you've said the OT is the shadow of the NT I'd change the direction.

There are believers who believe the OT and reject the NT - Judaism. They believe the NT's claim about its 'reforming' and fulfiling the OT is false, and that the NT has distorted most of the passage/verses it quotes from the OT, which I agree with. One of the many examples is Psalm 68:18:

When you ascended to the heights, you led a crowd of captives. You received gifts from the people, even from those who rebelled against you. Now the LORD God will live among us there.

Which Paul distorts as

That is why the Scriptures say, "When he ascended to the heights, he led a crowd of captives and gave gifts to his people." Eph 4:8

His intention is obvious. Psalm is apparently talking about a 'God of war' who leads captives and gets gifts from people. But Paul distorted this verse to mean 'give out gifts' in order to support his theology of Jesus giving gifts (of the Holy Spirit) to men as seen in the succeeding verses.

So it's not gonna be surprising if the writer of Hebrews, just like you, distorts the meaning of the Sabbath or gives it a new meaning to nulify its original meaning and introduce a new doctrine, even when the God of the OT affirms that He never changes.

But this can help... Maybe you should come up with a verse from the OT that confirms that the meaning of its Sabbath will be changed to mean 'eternal rest' in association with anyone called Jesus on the long run and then you'd eventually start making sense and I'd reconsider my rebuttal.


As to the verses you quoted which all seem to point to Jesus as God for real only made matter worse because you're actually bringing out more proof to confirm the contradictions that exist in the so-called perfect word of a perfect God.

Let's still use the verse you cleverly ignored to contradict/tell wrong the verses that you quoted to point to Jesus as God.

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is God Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Who is the other God exalting Jesus? Who is the other God giving Jesus a name? Since you said "there is only one God and his name is Jesus".

I initially didn't want to reply your post. I thought it was some copy-and-paste post when I saw the long 'time' I was supposed to read until I bothered myself reading anyway.

ORIENTNIGERIA

Pr0ton:
Whether the Sabbath is on Sunday or Saturday is of no issue between you and me, but the purpose of the Sabbath - to rest from works. I would have quoted out incidents that point to the physical work as the work to rest from, but as you've said the OT is the shadow of the NT I'd change the direction.

There are believers who believe the OT and reject the NT - Judaism. They believe the NT's claim about its 'reforming' and fulfiling the OT is false, and that the NT has distorted most of the passage/verses it quotes from the OT, which I agree with. One of the many examples is Psalm 68:18:

When you ascended to the heights, you led a crowd of captives. You received gifts from the people, even from those who rebelled against you. Now the LORD God will live among us there.

Which Paul distorts as

That is why the Scriptures say, "When he ascended to the heights, he led a crowd of captives and gave gifts to his people." Eph 4:8

His intention is obvious. Psalm is apparently talking about a 'God of war' who leads captives and gets gifts from people. But Paul distorted this verse to mean 'give out gifts' in order to support his theology of Jesus giving gifts (of the Holy Spirit) to men as seen in the succeeding verses.

So it's not gonna be surprising if the writer of Hebrews, just like you, distorts the meaning of the Sabbath or gives it a new meaning to nulify its original meaning and introduce a new doctrine, even when the God of the OT affirms that He never changes.

But this can help... Maybe you should come up with a verse from the OT that confirms that the meaning of its Sabbath will be changed to mean 'eternal rest' in association with anyone called Jesus on the long run and then you'd eventually start making sense and I'd reconsider my rebuttal.


As to the verses you quoted which all seem to point to Jesus as God for real only made matter worse because you're actually bringing out more proof to confirm the contradictions that exist in the so-called perfect word of a perfect God.

Let's still use the verse you cleverly ignored to contradict/tell wrong the verses that you quoted to point to Jesus as God.

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is God Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Who is the other God exalting Jesus? Who is the other God giving Jesus a name? Since you said "there is only one God and his name is Jesus".

I initially didn't want to reply your post. I thought it was some copy-and-paste post when I saw the long 'time' I was supposed to read until I bothered myself reading anyway.

ORIENTNIGERIA

Am sorry, but I think ur so wrong about d sabbath.
Where was d sabbath changed in d Bible to mean eternal rest even though d disciplines kept d sabbath even after d holy spirit came upon them.
Pls don't b d devil.

David0:


Am sorry, but I think ur so wrong about d sabbath.
Where was d sabbath changed in d Bible to mean eternal rest even though d disciplines kept d sabbath even after d holy spirit came upon them.
Pls don't b d devil.

Well, thank you for your comments, its highly appreciated. May I declare succinctly, Sabbath goes beyond physical rest (personally I try to take my rest on my days of service). Taking Sabbath to imply just physical rest from works is negative of the Rest that Christ came to give to His children, hence the scriptural evidences I placed. Please what is the essence of physical rest when a man is yet to rest from the works of his flesh as earlier mentioned. "come unto me ye that labour and haven laden (I believe this is not physical rest), I will give you rest" said the Lord, am not sure Jesus is calling us to come to him so that we can rest on a particular Sabbath day. (If you have a wife in labour and due to give birth on the 'Sabbath day" and because you 100% believe that Sabbath is for rest, please what will you do sir?)
please read the bible references below.

MARK 2:23 And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.

24 And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful? (RESTING FROM PHYSICAL WORKS)

25 And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?

26 How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?

27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.


Mark :3 And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand.

2 And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him.

3 And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand forth.

4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.

5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.

Jesus Himself was working on a Sabbath day here..... He didn't come to break the laws, but to fulfil them. Remember?

David0:


Am sorry, but I think ur so wrong about d sabbath.
Where was d sabbath changed in d Bible to mean eternal rest even though d disciplines kept d sabbath even after d holy spirit came upon them.
Pls don't b d devil.

This should be for ORIENTNIGERIA. He claimed that, not me.

Pr0ton:
Whether the Sabbath is on Sunday or Saturday is of no issue between you and me, but the purpose of the Sabbath - to rest from works. I would have quoted out incidents that point to the physical work as the work to rest from, but as you've said the OT is the shadow of the NT I'd change the direction.

There are believers who believe the OT and reject the NT - Judaism. They believe the NT's claim about its 'reforming' and fulfiling the OT is false, and that the NT has distorted most of the passage/verses it quotes from the OT, which I agree with. One of the many examples is Psalm 68:18:

When you ascended to the heights, you led a crowd of captives. You received gifts from the people, even from those who rebelled against you. Now the LORD God will live among us there.

Which Paul distorts as

That is why the Scriptures say, "When he ascended to the heights, he led a crowd of captives and gave gifts to his people." Eph 4:8

His intention is obvious. Psalm is apparently talking about a 'God of war' who leads captives and gets gifts from people. But Paul distorted this verse to mean 'give out gifts' in order to support his theology of Jesus giving gifts (of the Holy Spirit) to men as seen in the succeeding verses.

So it's not gonna be surprising if the writer of Hebrews, just like you, distorts the meaning of the Sabbath or gives it a new meaning to nulify its original meaning and introduce a new doctrine, even when the God of the OT affirms that He never changes.

But this can help... Maybe you should come up with a verse from the OT that confirms that the meaning of its Sabbath will be changed to mean 'eternal rest' in association with anyone called Jesus on the long run and then you'd eventually start making sense and I'd reconsider my rebuttal.


As to the verses you quoted which all seem to point to Jesus as God for real only made matter worse because you're actually bringing out more proof to confirm the contradictions that exist in the so-called perfect word of a perfect God.

Let's still use the verse you cleverly ignored to contradict/tell wrong the verses that you quoted to point to Jesus as God.

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is God Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Who is the other God exalting Jesus? Who is the other God giving Jesus a name? Since you said "there is only one God and his name is Jesus".

I initially didn't want to reply your post. I thought it was some copy-and-paste post when I saw the long 'time' I was supposed to read until I bothered myself reading anyway.

ORIENTNIGERIA

Thank you once again sir, your comments are highly appreciated. Your knowledge in bible readings is quite vast as indicated in you intricate details, its quite a brilliance that I admire. Let me assert again, Jesus Christ is God almighty Himself. Am not here to argue on some "distortion" as you put it. I believe that the bible is infallible word of God. When I get to heaven, am longing to see Jesus. the One true God that manifested in form of the father, son and the holy Ghost just for man kind. if there are three Gods, the bible will talk of three thrones.
but there is one throne in heaven. Even in a physical sinful country, there can't be two kings; the story of Ivory coasts' issue between Laurent Gbagbo and Alhassan Quatara cant be easily forgotten. How much the sinless kingdom of God?

Revelation 4 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.




We all know that the highest embodiment of creation is man ( man was made in the image of God). As such, the highest after God is man!.
But man sinned and fell short of the Glory. who will redeem man? man cannot redeem himself, a million animals cant not redeem him because man is higher than animal. who then is worthy?, God alone! but God cannot die. How can man be redeemed?. He had a redemption plan.
remember that the same God who sat in the heavens was still fellowshipping with Aam and Eve in the garden of eden?, the same God came down as a fire in the bush to commune with moses?, the same God came to Abraham and Sarah and told Abraham of His intention to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah?. He came through a body that cant be by the way of man because man has fallen hence the virgin birth. Unknown to many, God himself was with men but few realized it. Jesus came as a man, took the place of man and pointed all men to God. He didn't declare that he was God himself to the general gatherings but to some people because if he had declared himself God (knowing He was going to pay the ultimate price by laying down His life), when he goes, who will man look up to?. but those who where with Him knew that there was something more than a mere man talking with them.

john 4:19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.

20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

27 And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?

28 The woman then left her waterpot, and went her way into the city, and saith to the men,

29 Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?



Luke 2:25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.

26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.

27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law,

28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said,

29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,

31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.


ACT 9: 3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.



john 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself?

23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.

Dear Proton, I believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is God Almighty. I might not be able to prove to you but this is where my anchor holds.

ORIENTNIGERIA:

Well, thank you for your comments, its highly appreciated. May I declare succinctly, Sabbath goes beyond physical rest (personally I try to take my rest on my days of service). Taking Sabbath to imply just physical rest from works is negative of the Rest that Christ came to give to His children, hence the scriptural evidences I placed. Please what is the essence of physical rest when a man is yet to rest from the works of his flesh as earlier mentioned. "come unto me ye that labour and haven laden (I believe this is not physical rest), I will give you rest" said the Lord, am not sure Jesus is calling us to come to him so that we can rest on a particular Sabbath day. (If you have a wife in labour and due to give birth on the 'Sabbath day" and because you 100% believe that Sabbath is for rest, please what will you do sir?)
please read the bible references below.

MARK 2:23 And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.

24 And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful? (RESTING FROM PHYSICAL WORKS)

25 And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?

26 How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?

27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.


Mark :3 And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand.

2 And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him.

3 And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand forth.

4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.

5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.

Jesus Himself was working on a Sabbath day here..... He didn't come to break the laws, but to fulfil them. Remember?

From all u have said and quoted, I can only deduce that;
- U only do things when its a case of necessity, unavoidable, not intentionally delaying things u kud hv done b4 d sabbath only to start doing it on the sabbath.
- Jesus talked about doing good. Showing love to people around is not the same as breaking the sabbath by going to ur office or buying and selling.
-Jesus Himself kept the sabbath.
-The sabbath is both spiritual and physical.
-Your interpretation suggest d physical aspect have been abolished, but thats totally wrong.

David0:


From all u have said and quoted, I can only deduce that;
- U only do things when its a case of necessity, unavoidable, not intentionally delaying things u kud hv done b4 d sabbath only to start doing it on the sabbath.
- Jesus talked about doing good. Showing love to people around is not the same as breaking the sabbath by going to ur office or buying and selling.
-Jesus Himself kept the sabbath.
-The sabbath is both spiritual and physical.
-Your interpretation suggest d physical aspect have been abolished, but thats totally wrong.

Thanks for your deduction, I never inferred in anyway that physical aspect has been abolished. It shouldn't be mechanical system of keeping of a particular day or "not working" as Sabbath. True Sabbath is "ceasing" from the works of the flesh!
"Jesus talked about doing good. Showing love to people around is not the same as breaking the sabbath by going to ur office or buying and selling


I don't know if you have your own personal car or you follow someone. I don't have a car yet, I follow public transport. its another form of buying and selling in which I pay to be provided a service. One cant just "mechanically" attach Sabbath to not working or buying and selling. that means we should stay at home on Sundays or Saturday and no transporter should work because work is done when energy is exerted.
From the scriptures I gave, the disciples were passing through the field and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them, this is not a mistake or unconscious or accidental event. it was a conscious and deliberate effort.
Jesus also healing in the synagogue was a deliberate effort which the Jews know hence the desire to accuse him for breaking the Sabbath.
Thanks once again bro.

ORIENTNIGERIA:


Thanks for your deduction, I never inferred in anyway that physical aspect has been abolished. It shouldn't be mechanical system of keeping of a particular day or "not working" as Sabbath. True Sabbath is "ceasing" from the works of the flesh!
"Jesus talked about doing good. Showing love to people around is not the same as breaking the sabbath by going to ur office or buying and selling


I don't know if you have your own personal car or you follow someone. I don't have a car yet, I follow public transport. its another form of buying and selling in which I pay to be provided a service. One cant just "mechanically" attach Sabbath to not working or buying and selling. that means we should stay at home on Sundays or Saturday and no transporter should work because work is done when energy is exerted.
From the scriptures I gave, the disciples were passing through the field and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them, this is not a mistake or unconscious or accidental event. it was a conscious and deliberate effort.
Jesus also healing in the synagogue was a deliberate effort which the Jews know hence the desire to accuse him for breaking the Sabbath.
Thanks once again bro.

Everything ur saying is based on what u think. And dat, d Bible doesn't support.

David0:


Everything ur saying is based on what u think. And dat, d Bible doesn't support.

Okay boss, I really really appreciate your comments. I don't think I will quote the bible if the bible dosent support it. As for me, my faith is anchored on the solid rock.