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Atheism & Hypocrisy by Remilekun101: 3:35pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
[size=16pt]Atheists on Nairaland claims the Christians are white ass lickers (Meaning the Christians are Worshipping White Man Religion) But on another look, They are the real white ass lickers because most of their preconceive opinion about other religions or God are based on white man's research/ view about life... Science is different from Atheism. Atheism has nothing to do with science. Science is purely INTELLECTUAL work, how do you expect an INTELLECT to know something that is beyond it.. Now i will bring the concept of God into it.. lets take the most clean water know to man and use it in analysing the concept. We all know that rain water is supposedly the "CLEANEST WATER" on earth (i stand to be corrected if i'm wrong), now put this supposedly clean water under a microscope, what you will see will amaze you yet this can't be seen with the physical eyes, now increase the magnification of the microscope 1 million times what we would see would still amaze us. now lets ask our self why the water was supposedly clean to the physical eyes yet under a microscope it is unclean, the answer is simple, it is because we are using a wrong medium to look at a right thing, Now apply that to the Concept of God, how do you purpotedly expect to find God with the overdeveloped frontal brain (intellect), no he cant be found... Now, Atheists always ask us to explain how God looks like. How do you expect a Volkswagen to describe those guys who assembled him.. it is impossible, that's the first place error stepped it to be continued [/size] 1 Like |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by TheEvilPriest(m): 3:57pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
On point! |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Nobody: 4:05pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
Remilekun101:Science is with prove and fact, Religion is with faith and believe.. they are 2 different things, it's easier to believe what can been seen,felt and touched than having faith in something that doesn't exist, besides being an atheist does not mean atheists worship science, they appreciate fact and reality. atheist on nairaland are not white ass lickers, they are people who appreciate knowledge and believe in powers of thinking,questioning and curiosity,I think our fore father are to be blamed for making research about blackmagics rather than science which the white folks did, magic has not helped anyone today, has it? , so I think you should have a rethink of what you wrote up there.. 5 Likes |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Remilekun101: 4:22pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
WarRLaY: Like i said.. TO BE CONTINUED... DON'T Jump INTO CONCLUSION |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Nobody: 5:24pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
I humbly await all the atheists.... ![]() ![]() |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by frank317: 5:54pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
Did i hear you say white man's RESEARCH? seriously why does religious folks hate research, curiosity and question asking. Isnt religion the reason we scarcely hear black man's research? lok around you and you will see the positive effect of this research in our world today, what has ur researchless religion brought if not segregation, killing and hypocrisy? what exactly is ur point self? 3 Likes |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:57pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
WarRLaY: This is complete trash. Athiesm is not science. Religionist also adopt science. Even some churches finance scinece project. This is why Catholic have their huge telescope. The OP is arguing about the source of Christianity idea in Africa which is from the colonial masters. He aligned this to atheism which he believes is a notion hold by the same whitemen who brough Christianity. So he concluded that you atheists are whitemen asslic.kers just like he is because godless idea, and like he hold atheism is from them. Planting atheism on science is another hypocrisy the OP is talking about. Historically, science starts from the temples. From Egypt temple to Greek altar of gods to muslim scientist in the islamic golden age were all spirtualist and religionist who conttibuted immensely to the development of science. I believe you dont want me to real out spiritual source of your so called science subjects. Alchmey birth chemistry. Astolatry birth astronomy. These become the subjects of science but were originally from the spiritual temple which you are throwing out as nothing. You need to understand the difference between religion and dogmatism. Disregarding dogmatism is understandable but ruling on religion as dogmatism is serious undoing. And why would you blame your ancestors because they practised magic? You should rather have yourself blamed because you couldnt bring new idea but have to throw away your ancestors idea and embraced the whitemen idea. You need to ask yourself what you have added to what your ancestors left behind. Medicine for example. What is your conttibution to traditional medicine? You are here. Your ancestors have gone. So you have that blame. Atheism to the best I know is alien to Africa. So we can argue like the OP is doing that it is whitemen idea. Therefore just like a christian, you are whitemen asslic.kers 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by FOLYKAZE(m): 6:26pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
frank317: What is the point of making a nuclear weapon pls? 3 Likes |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by winner01(m): 9:51pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE:Epic!!! 1 Like |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by OZAOEKPE(f): 11:18pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
MzNelly:I'm monitoring you |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Nobody: 12:59am On Oct 29, 2015 |
WarRLaY: |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Runninghare(m): 1:12am On Oct 29, 2015 |
Atheism: (narrowly) Belief that no deities exist (sometimes including rejection of other religious beliefs). (broadly) Rejection of belief that any deities exist (with or without a belief that no deities exist). (very broadly) Absence of belief that any deities exist (including absence of the concept of deities). (loosely) Absence of belief in a particular deity, pantheon, or religious doctrine (notwithstanding belief in other deities). Christianity: An Abrahamic religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and various scholars who wrote the Christian Bible. Belief: Mental acceptance of a claim as likely true. Faith or trust in the reality of something; often based upon one's own reasoning, trust in a claim, desire of actuality, and/or evidence considered. Religion: The belief in and worship of a supernatural controlling power, especially a personal god or gods A particular system of faith and worship. |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Nobody: 1:33am On Oct 29, 2015 |
Remilekun101: I personally make my research. I read books declared evil and found no evil in them. I noticed a lot of knowledge are kept in plain sight. I read to find my own truth. During slavery black people were prevented from reading in other to stop them from gaining knowledge. The Bible was forced on blacks to keep them confused and less conscious about science. I am interested and curious about everything. I question everything. Meanwhile you believe a god is up there watching you. That is the difference between you and me. Religion was taught to enslaved Africans as a means of social control more than as a means to edify their souls, plantation owners used religion to teach obedience. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Nobody: 5:40am On Oct 29, 2015 |
OZAOEKPE: What for? |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by frank317: 7:29am On Oct 29, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: To destroy ur enemy during war. Do threaten ur enemy and dominate. So what's ur point? How does this have anything with what I posted? |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:37am On Oct 29, 2015 |
frank317: Not kill enemy. It is meant for mass destruction. Nuclear bomb is a scientifical invention. My point which you dont see is that you cornered killing, segregation and hypocrisy to religion while science you are defending does promote mass killing, hypocrisy and segregation. Na lie? 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:45am On Oct 29, 2015 |
Runninghare: We know this, why you are telling us is what we dont understand. The point you guys are missing in the OP is that. . .he holds the position that christianity gets to Africans through the white colonial masters. And the godless idea or let me say atheism as we know is alien to Africa and this idea is from the whitemen just like christians. So he concluded you both are white asslic.kers 1 Like |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by AmunRaOlodumare: 8:19am On Oct 29, 2015 |
Remilekun101:Yes, based on logic, rationality and science (History, Theology, etc), Christians are white ass lickers. The bible was written by Europeans and Jewish people. It's quite different than most traditional religions in the world (which they call pagans). As most religions, Christianity, along with Judaism, Shinto (japan), Buddhism (India), Islam, Ancient Greek religions, Celtic traditions, etc, has some good aspects. It's just a religion created by other people like Shinto, Buddhism, Native American religions, etc. I mean a religion among many others. There's some bad aspect like the proselytising/fascist nature of Abrahamic religions which create divisions including among themselves (catholics vs protestants vs independants churches vs buddhism vs islam vs shiite, vs shia, etc). Proselytism is very rare for most religions in the world beside Abrahamic ones which are all related to the same Jewish tradition. Atheism and agnosticism(a type of atheism) is very African. God is a great mystery to all of us humans but many of us can feel his presence by his divine essence given to everything in the world. The exact nature of god is unknown. We can seek god inside our soul and through our ancestors but it's never a one on one conversation with god like a phone call. It's mostly within ourselves and our community we can find him. No book, no man or no organization can speak in the name of God. Those who pretend they do are obviously lying to you (for example, why would god choose the Jewish people as his chosen people, that's stupid. Jewish people understandably said that because they wanted to create some authority to their own religious Judaic belief which was new at a time). No book, no man or no organization can speak in the name of God. We all just use intermediaries until (and if) we can speak/interact with him in person. Those who say to you they know exactly what god wants and wants you to do are obviously lying to you as if you were some naive child. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by FOLYKAZE(m): 9:40am On Oct 29, 2015 |
AmunRaOlodumare: You said atheism is African? Can you pls tell us how you arrive at this. I will leave every other things you said not countered. Just tell us atheism is african. Thank you 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by frank317: 10:24am On Oct 29, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: i noticed that you just like arguing for arguing sake. instead of being quick to argue, take your time and compare the pros and cons of religion(especially islam, and christianity and maybe traditional misconceptions) with the pros and cons of scientific research and inventions. besides, how many times have nuclear bombs destroyed your home? why bring it up like its haunting you? talking about off point 1 Like |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by michaelwestern(m): 10:26am On Oct 29, 2015 |
ifeness: You dont understand the thread you are commenting on. Who wrote majority of the books you use to make your research on atheism? white man or black man? who proposed the theory of evolution and big bang theory that most atheist believe in? white man or black man? the science you claim to follow is mostly from the white man. So, the point is that both christianity and atheism came from the white men. so atheist dont have the right to accuse christians of worshipping the white man's God |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Nobody: 10:51am On Oct 29, 2015 |
michaelwestern: You still don't get it. Atheism is a curious state of mind which means show me the evidence and I will believe you.I personally hated praying to a god when I was a kid. I always buy stuff with my offering money and never said my prayers. I never believed in a hell fire either. So you could say I have always been an atheist even when forced to church. You are wrong about atheism coming from whites. A lot of white people patronized a black South African, Credo Mutwa(look him up if you can) to find many hidden knowledge of the world and ETs from him. This is how they made their research. Science,geometry actually came from ancient Egypt. And besides lots of white people are as deluded as many black Christians. I have come across many whites who think Africans live on trees,due to their lack of knowledge. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:09am On Oct 29, 2015 |
frank317: That I dont agree with some of your grounds mean I argue for argument sake? Let me laugh this off. 1. I acknowledge everything has two sides to it. Negative and positive. Even the thing about science, is that it can be used for good or evil purposes. My arguement is that you are too blind on seeing the positive side of religion while you push down the negative side of Almighty Science and shoove in our throat sweet side of it. The only purpose of a nuclear bomb is to kill massive amounts of people including civilians and innocent souls. There is no comparison whatsoever as advantage it proffer. Didnt you say religion has serve no purpose than to kill, segregate and destory? Even while this is feature of science though making of nuclear bomb, why did you turn blind eye on nuclear bomb which serve no purpose than to destroy massively lives of people and animals? Religion has it importance so do science. We need not ridicule one for another. They both have their pro and cons. 2. US hit Japan twice with Nuclear weapon. Did bombing Japan saves lives? What value does bombing of Japan added to Mankind? Which religion will you blame that on? 3. I need to bring it here because you are becoming biased and your hypocrisy stinks. You are all about painting religion as if it is scientifical inventions like handgun, dynamites, TNT andother lether weapons. You are portraying religion as a seed of death, hatred, segregation and oppression. While you "foolishly" admit that Nuclear weapon has every evil features in it. I was reading from daily curiosity last week when I found this quote on Dr Alfred who made dynamite. ""The erroneous publication in 1888 of a premature obituary of Nobel by a French newspaper, condemning his invention of dynamite, is said to have made him decide to leave a better legacy to the world after his death. The obituary stated Le marchand de la mort est mort ("The merchant of death is dead" ![]() http://schools-wikipedia.org /wp/a/Alfred_Nobel.htm with Science, he found massive death. So why look away from this inventions and cast blames of death on Religion? Do I need to move on to toxic release from your dead invented chemicals? Do I need to disease caused by your useless engineered food and drugs? Millions are dead through your wicked inventions all to put the blame on religion. TKO |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:14am On Oct 29, 2015 |
ifeness: I think the OP is not making his ground clear enough. Is Christianity African? No Is atheism African? Answer should be no. Therefore like christianity, the godless idea is from the whitemen. This is what the OP is trying to say |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Nobody: 11:21am On Oct 29, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: I get what you mean. White man cannot invent the godless idea,they may have made it popular but they certainly didn't invent it. Back in the days if you did not believe in deities or gods you will be put to death. Just like abolishment of slavery,black people started the movement,but Williams Wilberforce took the credit. |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:33am On Oct 29, 2015 |
ifeness: Perfectly put. There are no record of any man in Africa before contact with Whiteman who reject, deny and disbleieve in the existence of God. Much as we know, atheism is alien to us not until the whitemen came. So we can conclude they brought it. On a lighter note, Africans reject or refuse to worship it. This is not atheism. |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by ingenuity2014: 11:40am On Oct 29, 2015 |
When you open the door of truth, nothing will be the same again. Today there are over 1,700 religious sects, cults and denominations confessing to be the bearers of light, yet most are in contradiction with one another. A man or woman seeking the truth is like a rat in a maze of 1,700-plus roads with only one reaching the "God" destination. Many will assume theirs is the correct one. Your chances are not good. Fortunately, the God who created all things has written a book-an owner's manual, which is commonly known as the Holy Bible. - See more at: http://godsaidmansaid.com |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Nobody: 11:41am On Oct 29, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: As the name implies, theist believe in god and atheist is the disbelieve. At the same time,an African named Credo Mutwa believe the "gods" we flesh and blood who had advanced technology,wrongly termed as supernatural to their worshipers. Credo believed the gods could actually be killed,hence that is some worth beyond atheism. I personally think the gods were real,like yemeja etc but physical beings that I do not have to worship. Now that is another case for another debate. |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:00pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
ifeness: Believe in ETT as God/Gods is samething as theism. It is totally opposing atheism. In Africa, God's temple and artifacts are mostly been burnt and destroyed especially during war. This is directly related to killing blood and flesh. No matter how you rule it, there is a little substance of theism in every Africans back then. There is nothing like atheism in our continent till Whitemen came. Secularism was very popular. However, secularism does not rule out the existence of God. Many dont partake in worshippping of Ogun but they dont dismiss existence of Ogun. |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by Nobody: 12:15pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: Another look at it. If I notice that someone who I think has supernatural power is actually using a form of technology I will stop seeing them as super-humans. The term "God's" came from humans who think these creatures are too advance. Therefore the term "God" was born A lot of Africans have actually met with the "Gods" and bowed to their kneels,so did the whites. But something happened...... Humans started mingling with some ETs(gods) who pitied our position,gods who saw us as their equal and therefore started teaching humans to be like them. It is no surprise well documented books about the help from the ETs have been destroyed by the evil roman Catholics. As I was saying,we got technological help,astrological help(check the dogans) they told us the planets they came from. Man infact went as far as building a Star gate(a port hole to another world) and this angered the rest of the gods. They came down and destroyed it,scartterd humans across the planet and gave us laws and religion. Let me not say too much. Basically some humans in Africa still know that the gods are equal to them. These ones were made kings and that way it remained 50/50. They became human god over humans. Now with that deal on,the gods did as they wished. Same thing happened in Egypt,Israel,the native Americans and also the white race. My point is well informed secularism knows what the "gods" are. |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by frank317: 12:17pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: turn blind eyes to the nagetivity of science? how? did i tell you science was perfect. again... compare pros and cons, i repeat, pros and cons. tell me three good things religion had brought to Africa, just three as for science i will mention ten. |
Re: Atheism & Hypocrisy by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:43pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
ifeness: ETT is not Eledumare. It could be Orisha but wont make supreme being. All African cultures hold stand in the existence of Supreme God. The demigods or deifed heroes/ETT are not not Supreme Gods. Remember in our tradition we have creatures like Ebora, Egbere, Iwin and lot more. These could exist but they are not God (Supreme Being). And I think we are derailing away from the subject matter. Do you agree atheism is alien to African culture? |
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