Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 1:23pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Shymm3x:
Apart from the idea of overhead bridges and flyovers - how about tunnels? Tunnels? ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) That one is impossible for now. The best they can ever do is to build a flyover. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 1:23pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
![](https://www.randafricanart.com/sitebuilder/images/Denver_Art_Museum_opening__021-451x600.jpg) Door - Yoruba, Nigeria Master of Ikere ca. 1949 wood, traces of red pigment 147cm |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 1:24pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
![](https://www.randafricanart.com/sitebuilder/images/Denver_Art_Museum_opening__058-600x451.jpg) Twin figures, ibeji, by the Master of the Owu Shango Shrine. Yoruba, Nigeria. Wood, beads; 28.5cm (11.3" ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) . 1997.3.1, 1997.3.2. Native Arts Acquisition Fund. "The Yoruba view twins as powerful and mischievous descendants of the thunder god Shango. Upon the death of one or both of them, a diviner often recommends that ibeji figures be carved in order to protect the living. The work of the Master of the Owu Shango Shrine (ca. 1850-1925), one of the most prominent and skilled carvers among the Yoruba, displays a unique consideration of space and form, notably in the juxtaposition of rounded areas with flat planes." |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 1:25pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
forgiveness:
Tunnels are not necessary on that axis for now. Bridges and flyovers will do. Okay, bro. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 1:26pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
WIZGUY69:
Tunnels? That one is impossible for now. The best they can ever do is to build a flyover. Lol. Just making suggestions since Lagos is surrounded by Lagoon. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 1:26pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Flyoruboy:
Indeed it is the Political capital of the Yoruba race within Nigeria -- it was Awo and Akintola's seat as Premier of the Western Region and was arguably Nigeria's foremost city while regionalism lasted, and it recorded many firsts in the history of this nation. It's the same reason that till today most important socio-political gatherings concerning the Yoruba race are held there. Even the then western region National Assembly (mapo hall) was situated in Ibadan. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) 3 Likes
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by forgiveness: 1:27pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: I'm really dissapointed though.I was expecting to see a lot of people comment.I know they will come later to give excuses
We have those who are also showing up after the match . ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 1:27pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Shymm3x:
Lol.
Just making suggestions since Lagos is surrounded by Lagoon.
I get you Bro. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tolababa(m): 1:28pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
zimoni:
Akokos are just like every other Yoruba sub-ethnic group. They speak general Yoruba and their local dialects.
What's funny about Akokos is that each community/town has its own dialect. I as a Yoruba hear some of the dialect when they speak while I don't understand some. Some Akokos don't even underatand each other. For instance Ibaramu Akoko, no one understand them when they speak apart from a native of Ibaramu Akoko.
I studied at FUTA and had some Akokos as friends. Let me invite one of them to show up. Ogbeni tolababa, your attention is needed here.
Where is Prof Katsumoto nah? How I wish he could make contributions to the thread.
What a lovely thread. Bro Zimoni you are right am from Akoko Ikare Akoko we Adonis speak various languages |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 1:32pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Read an article (more of an interview, really) on here a few days ago about how AG was formed. I'll post the excerpts for anyone interested in starting a political party in naij - the blueprint is quite impressive. In the case of the Action Group, Awolowo called for a meeting, wrote a circular, inviting people for a meeting to discuss the future of western ideas. For the first time, very few people came, even up to the fifth time. Then the sixth time, Awolowo said, ‘let’s put our name down in the meeting, and not summons any more meeting.’ Then Baba Jackson said, ‘let’s not do that. Let’s try once more; whoever attends the meeting, the seventh one, let’s make the go for our purpose. So, they called the seventh meeting and those who came were very fair in number. And then they constituted themselves into a would-be political party. Then, they were holding meetings with Awolowo being the driving force of the organisation, with ideas coming forth from each meeting as to the action to take on the organisation that wants to grow. They had asked themselves: ‘Shall we look towards the elite, the haves or the masses?’ They decided they would embrace the masses as opposed to the middle class or the elite. Furthermore, they decided that their meetings towards forming a political party should not be publicised because if they did, some political opponents would destroy it. So, they didn’t make any noise about their political party. The party came into being at about March/April 1951. At that time, a lot of important decisions had been made as to what they were going to do. Then, of course, they had something that is not heard of now and that is shadow officers; shadow ministers. What is the purpose of having a shadow cabinet? For a shadow minister of education for example, it will be part of his binding duty to know what is going on in the ministry of education. He will know as the proper minister of education. So that when they came to their meeting by way of planning, for that time when election would be conducted, and they would take over and form government, they would be quite prepared; how to prepare their budgets and how to prepare for various projects they would embark upon. For example, the shadow minister of agriculture will know where cocoa will be quite profitable and be best planted. He will know the problem of cocoa farmers. He will know the sale of cocoa products. Then on arable farming, preparing food crops, the shadow minister of agriculture will know where they will be profitable and how to encourage yam farmers or cassava farmers. That was why you found that the number of places in the old Western Region, you had some places where there were poultry; cash crops and others.
Why not if we know what we are doing? Take works, for example, the shadow minister of works would know what goes on in the ministry of works. He would know the total mileage of roads in the whole Western Region. He would know how many of them are tarred, how many are requiring repairs, how many miles of new roads should be provided, particularly the ones leading to far settlements. He would know what it would cost to a mile of tarred road; he would know how much it would cost to repair an average road, depending on the state of disrepair. When it comes to making budget, agriculture ministry would come with its ideas, works, finance, health would also come up with their own. So, when we take over government, there would be an announcement of our budget of our party. If you want to know what this is like, you can read a book written by Gordon Brown. In 1996 or so, when they were preparing to take over government from John Major. In preparing for the take over of government by the Labour Party. Gordon Brown did a lot with some young people in the party. One of the boys is now the leader of LP, his senior brother was in the government of Blair, Leremy Corbyn. The senior one was working very closely with Brown, preparing very hard to take over government from the conservatives. That was the sort of thing that the Action Group was doing. AG prepared very well for government and therefore, when it took over government in 1952, the colonial government voted so much for education. But when the AG got there, because they had prepared themselves for governance, they just raised the amount provided by the colonial government because the money was not enough to cover the running of education in the region. AG provided 200 scholarships for people to go overseas- Oxford, Cambridge and other countries. Was one of them was Allison Ayida, Phillip Asiodu and many others, including I think Aboyade too. Then, there was a lot of discipline in the party so because in the constitution of the AG, there was party supremacy, party loyalty and party discipline. These were the principles upon which AG were run. I tell how they managed the party then. In preparation for the appointment of ministers, the leaders met and bearing in mind the number of ministries there were in government, then there should be corresponding number of ministers. So, they sat and met to have six or eight ministers. What will illustrate the point I want to make about party discipline or loyalty. The National Working Committee of the AG said Remo should get two slots. Awolowo said Remo was too small to have two ministers, that how Remo could be compared with Egba and Ondo, for instance. The other NWC members insisted Remo must have two and Awolowo didn’t argue further. He said if that was the decision of the party, so be it. So, they decided the number of ministers and who the ministers should be. About three days later, there was a man called Bode Thomas, now very many years late. He went to another leader called Chief S.O Gbadamosi in Ikorodu. Thomas said “SOG, the meeting we held the other day nominating candidates for ministries was most inadequate because we didn’t give any slot to Lagos Colony.” Lagos Colony then was Ikeja, Ikorodu and Badagry and the other parts of of Lagos were separate entity. SOG realised the oversight and they both went to Ikenne to meet the leader, Papa Awolowo who, upon being told, called a meeting of the NWC where a slot from the two slots for Remo was given to Lagos Colony, after the leaders realised it was a serious error. That slot was given to the Akran who later became the Oba of Badagry. The NWC of AG decided that second person to Awolowo in Remo would no longer be made a minister. Some leaders were mandate to talk to the nominee, M.S Sowole from Ipara. The leaders told him he would no longer me minister. He agreed with the decision of the party. But the party decided that when election came and it won, Sowole would be given a comparable position in government. Today, if people had been told they would be ministers or commissioners and the promise was later changed. What would such politicians do? They will tell the party leaders that they will leave the party because they have spent so much money to build the party. They will threaten to and even join another party. But party discipline in our time would not allow that to happen. Another instance of party discipline was the case of an Akure man called Olu Ibukun who wanted to contest with a man called Olumofin in the House of Assembly. Awolowo was in Akure one day where he and Olu Ibukun met. He told Olu Ibukun to start to campaign for Olumofin and ensure the candidate win. Olu Ibukun agreed and worked for Olumofin. Election came and we won and Olu Ibukun was made the chairman of the Western Nigerian Broadcasting Corporation (WNBC). He was alarmed and said if he knew he would get such position he would not have ventured into contesting the Assembly seat. If today, party leaders tell some politicians not to contest against certain individuals, would such politicians accept? On party loyalty, I give another example. There was a man who was called Reverend T.T Solaru who later became a Bishop. He was schooled at Oxford and was very brilliant. He was one of the best speakers of English in Yorubaland at that time. AG appointed him to be a member of Airways Corporation. The government at the centre then was a coalition between NPC and NCNC. They invited us to nominate someone or two and Solaru was sent to them. When they were behaving funny and acting in ways inconsistent with our own philosophy, we asked Solaru to resign and he did immediately because that was the instruction from the party. Today, can such people resign? These were the attributes that made the Action Group very tick and so loved by the people. These were what differentiated the AG from other parties.
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f): 1:34pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
tolababa:
Bro Zimoni you are right am from Akoko Ikare Akoko we Adonis speak various languages Hey, Ogbeni Olorinla Yiiiii, Where Have You Been? Welcome on board Brother. This thread is da bomb. Proudly Oodua. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by forgiveness: 1:35pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo:
On a more serious note, which of this current crop of Yoruba leaders do you think has what it takes to replicate Awo's achievements. Chief Ahmed Bola Tinubu ofcourse. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f): 1:40pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Shadow Minister? Whaoooooo
Lord Jisos.
Baba Awolowo Was A Genius.
Baba, YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE THE BEST.
RIP Baba. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superduperjay: 1:50pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Likewise myself too I always wondered why the ibadan warriors were exceptional but my take on it is that probably was their innate strong point, I couldn't reason out any other angle. I think its also part of the fabric of the yoruba kingdom and what defines the unity of the yoruba people to the shock of the rest of the country. Everyone has their various strengths, some yoruba groups are fantastic in commerce/trade, some are excellent fishermen and farmers, some craftsmen, so somehow everyone has their strong point. Everything you are looking on God's green earth can be found in the yoruba kingdom. So we might not really know why the ibadan warriors were fierce but we are blessed to have them. Same thing in 2000 when those fulani's were disturbing them they countered even to the extent buhari had to go down to oyo state. quote author=Shymm3x post=39543049]Morning everyone. 9jacrip and Mayoroflagos Before everyone gets on here. I've been reading about the Jalumi War and I'm here to celebrate Ibadan warriors (the saviours of Yorubaland) and Osun, the historical state, where the Yorubas defeated the Fulanis twice. Inisha (1878) and Osogbo (1840). Err...I'm wondering why all the defeats the Fulanis suffered against Yorubas were inflicted on them by the Ibadans. Apparently, they sacked Oyo twice and actually got to Abeokuta the second time Oyo was sacked. I know Oyo had a brutal cavalry - but what made Ibadan warriors so successful in battles? I definitely need to study more about Ibadan warriors - the saviours of the Yorubas. Proud of Ibadan. Also, the tactics they used in Osogbo's definitely one of best war tactics I've ever read. And the drowning of the retreating Fulanis at the Otin River, by the Offa folks was crazy - supreme Yoruba warriors. Yorubas have always been great in battles. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Anyone interested in reading about Ilorin can read this academic source: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=350uAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA448&lpg=PA448&dq=jalumi+war&source=bl&ots=H7QcNGQpT0&sig=n64Lto2pfM55iOra3FfNB6TB4Sg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEAQ6AEwCDgKahUKEwiwkeyhsuzIAhXJ1hoKHWmrDEE#v=onepage&q=jalumi%20war&f=false It was written by a white man and he spelt "Fulani" as "Filane". [/quote] |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superduperjay: 1:56pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Just seeing your comment now. We are really blessed to have the ibadan warriors fight our battles. Just for a second try and imagine them being successful? Lol wouldn't have been a funny something. zimoni:
Blessed be the name of the Lord.
I thank Eledumare, Ibadan warriors and other Yoruba warriors who sent the Tse Tse Flies back to the forest where they belong.
Imagine if the Fulanis had defeated us, all our Obas in Yorubaland would now be Emirs and we would all be muslims.
They always make sure they convert their subjects to Islam so that it would be easy to brainwash them that "That Is How Allah Wants It, It Is The Will Of Allah To Have Emirs In Yorubaland".
GOD FORBID, Olorun maje. Imagine Emirs of Ilesha,Ile-Ife,Ijebu-Ode,Oyo,Ibadan etc.
Oluwa o se oooooooooooooooo. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 2:19pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
forgiveness:
Chief Ahmed Bola Tinubu ofcourse. Don't say that again Bro. in as much as I like the man, he's no where near Awolowo. The reason why we can't even compare any present Yoruba leader is the absence of regional govt. so there's even no room to compare Awolowo with any Yoruba leader. Tinubu did a lot in Lagos, outside Lagos nko? ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) he's not even permitted to do anything outside his state. that can't be said about Awolowo. His impact is felt in Lagos, Ibadan, Ogun, osun & ondo. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:37pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Luvvie Ajayi
![](https://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/luvvie1.jpg?a5de54)
Referring to herself as “the Jill of all trades,” this comedic blogger, award-winning writer and digital strategist has made a major name for herself. Ajayi was one of first black bloggers to receive red carpet and backstage coverage access, She has also found time to create her own nonprofit organization called The Red Pump Project. Her blog draws 250,000 viewers per month. I love his chic. I follow her on Facebook. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:38pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
superduperjay: Likewise myself too I always wondered why the ibadan warriors were exceptional but my take on it is that probably was their innate strong point, I couldn't reason out any other angle. I think its also part of the fabric of the yoruba kingdom and what defines the unity of the yoruba people to the shock of the rest of the country. Everyone has their various strengths, some yoruba groups are fantastic in commerce/trade, some are excellent fishermen and farmers, some craftsmen, so somehow everyone has their strong point. Everything you are looking on God's green earth can be found in the yoruba kingdom. So we might not really know why the ibadan warriors were fierce but we are blessed to have them. Same thing in 2000 when those fulani's were disturbing them they countered even to the extent buhari had to go down to oyo state.
True definition of diversity towards achieving a common goal and what a proper nation needs. Not the quagmire the fraudulent zoogeria has, with divergent goals. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:39pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
IlekeHD:
I love his chic. I follow her on Facebook.
Word? I follow Jackie Aina on Instagram...that's my bae. ![kiss](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/kiss.gif) 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:41pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Jackie Aina...look at the legs - gaddamn! ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) ![](https://jackieaina.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DSC0176.jpg) |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 2:41pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Let's talk about bustops.
1st pic - Akure bustop
2nd pic - Ibadan own.
3rd pic - I just love this akure colour taxis. ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) 1 Like
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 2:43pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:45pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 2:50pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
This flyover connects to Oyo state Secretariat complex. very neat monument. but the insane idea is that: it's always on lock (there's a mini gate there) the only people/personalities permitted to pass through it are top govt officials and the state governors. a very foolish idea.
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by PaulJohn1: 2:50pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Nice one |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by PaulJohn1: 2:51pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
WIZGUY69: This flyover connects to Oyo state Secretariat complex. very neat monument. but the insane idea is that: it's always on lock (there's a mini gate there) the only people/personalities permitted to pass through it are top govt officials and the state governors. a very foolish idea. The present governor of Oyo needs to loosen up, how can he be the only one using a flyover. Very dump idea. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 2:52pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 2:54pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
PaulJohn1:
The present governor Oyo needs to loosen up, how can he be the only one using a flyover. Very dump idea. Am telling you. For a vast city like Ibadan that needs flyovers like madt. I bet the number of flyovers in Ibadan is more than 10. flyover is still part of development you know that. ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:56pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Shymm3x:
Word?
I follow Jackie Aina on Instagram...that's my bae. ![kiss](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/kiss.gif) Why do you follow her? Because of those legs? ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 2:57pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Abeg, who is celebrating bus stops here??!! ![shocked](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/shocked.gif) Of all things... make una no fall my hand now! ![angry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/angry.png) 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:58pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
WIZGUY69:
Too hot ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) I have a crush on her, but before that ; let's see her profile. ![cool](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cool.png) Lol. She's not doing bad. She's a beauty/make-up blogger and she's quite popular on YouTube and Instagram. I believe she used to be in the US Army...so she can kick anyone's arse. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Beauty vlogger Jackie Aina is taking us around the world on her face. At least that's the aim of her latest video, "The Worldwide Standard of Beauty."
Aina asked her followers to tell her about their ethnicity, culture and what the ideal standard of beauty is where they're from. She then used that information along with a bit of research to recreate makeup looks from six different countries: Australia, United Arab Emirates, Nigeria, France, South Korea and the U.S.
The looks aren't as drastically different as you might expect, but it was refreshing to read the comments from her followers about beauty standards in other countries. While some of the responses Aina received touched on actual makeup application, the majority discussed skin color and how fairer or darker hues play into standards of beauty.
One commenter from Australia wrote, "...the culture I live in values tanned skin, being pale is not seen as beautiful..." On the other hand, an Indonesian commenter said, "In Southeast Asia having dark skin is considered unattractive. So whitening products are very popular there."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/25/jackie-aina-beauty-standards-makeup_n_7665410.html |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 2:58pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
WIZGUY69: Let's talk about bustops.
1st pic - Akure bustop 2nd pic - Ibadan own.
3rd pic - I just love this akure colour taxis. ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) *sigh* |