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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:33pm On Oct 31, 2015
sephia:


Hazard has been carrying his team until this season. I wouldn't compare him to Ronaldo or Neymar but he is good. He is the reason we did well last season and the one before.
The way u guys slam him is unreasonable. It's not only Hazard that is poor this season, the whole team is shiit.
Hazard has been ok not exceptional. He has never carried his team like Suarez or Bale did. Even in the year you won the league he only carried the team in the last 3 months and he was crowned better than Ronaldo while ninjas were comparing him to ancestors. The whole team has been rubbish but Hazard has been one of the 3 worst players in your squad. For a so-called top 10 player this is simply unacceptable
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:34pm On Oct 31, 2015
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Juliaann(f): 6:37pm On Oct 31, 2015
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 6:40pm On Oct 31, 2015
nateevs:


In one argument, it is mental. In another, Hazard is 5hit. And talking about everyone manning up to their responsibilities, why are the others not being blame as much as Hazard is?

At what point did it become Hazard's responsibility to shoulder the team? Isn't this the root problem I have been talking about? Everything going through Hazard?

Neymar is bearing the burden of Barcelona since Messi's injury. Ronaldo has been bearing Real Madrid s burden for the past 5 years.

But Hazard is better than both Ronaldo and Neymar (according to Chelsea fans and coach). That's the point or moment Chelsea's burden become his.

It's Chelsea fans that placed the burden on him. So let him bear the cross graciously.

0 goals in 16 games... PATHETIC!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by JigsawKillah(m): 6:47pm On Oct 31, 2015
Ighalo scored a brace today

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitlad: 6:47pm On Oct 31, 2015
Ibime:


So all those stats you gave us are useless. Don't bring those kinda nonsense stats to a debate here unless you are discussing with awon boiz.

It is a fact that Ramires got disgraced by Coutinho and directly contributed to the first Pool goal. It is also a fact that Ramires was a disgrace against Stoke although I am sure you can pull up stats to show he had better pass completion than Stoke midfielders.

Lucas and Can never harmed their team or left them exposed in the midst of these stats. Mikel and Ramires did.

When Hazard slows the game down in attacking positions, I am also the first to criticise him here so save the sermon for the unbelievers.

Look, I am not saying that Mikel and Ramires are capable.

I admit the effort required to show them up as incompetent sods is little - which Coutinho and co did.

I am also telling you in the same vein that the effort required to call out Can and Lucas as unreliable serfs is equally little - which Hazard and co didn't do.

That is the import of my yarns.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:54pm On Oct 31, 2015
nitlad:


Look, I am not saying that Mikel and Ramires are capable.

I admit the effort required to show them up as incompetent sods is little - which Coutinho and co did.

I am also telling you in the same vein that the effort required to call out Can and Lucas as unreliable serfs is equally little - which Hazard and co didn't do.

That is the import of my yarns.

Gbam.

I've been so annoyed reading this rubbish today.

Did Hazard put any of the Liverpool midfielders under pressure today?

When he misplaced an easy pass to Oscar on a 2v1 where was Lucas? Where was Can?

When Ramires ghosted in to score, where was Lucas or Can.

If you didnt watch the game, Ibime would have you believe that Lucas and Can bossed midfield, when quite simply Hazard played a whole 45 minutes at 10 and was unable to influence the game.

The same game that Nateevs was decrying for lack of any attacking verve from our boys, is the same game where a mythical midfield battle is alleged to have been waged and won by Lucas and Can

Today's loss is not down to any nebulous midfield. The game was already lost in the mind of the players, particularly Hazard.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:55pm On Oct 31, 2015
JigsawKillah:
Ighalo scored a brace today
Yes. And Liverpool beat Chelsea. Tell is somtin we dont already know...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:57pm On Oct 31, 2015

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:58pm On Oct 31, 2015
airmark:


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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 6:58pm On Oct 31, 2015
Debroslink:


Neymar is bearing the burden of Barcelona since Messi's injury. Ronaldo has been bearing Real Madrid s burden for the past 5 years.

But Hazard is better than both Ronaldo and Neymar (according to Chelsea fans and coach). That's the point or moment Chelsea's burden become his.

It's Chelsea fans that placed the burden on him. So let him bear the cross graciously.

0 goals in 16 games... PATHETIC!


Mate I am not one of those fools you tango with. You either have a full understanding of my opinions altogether or don't quote me at all.

Do you think Neymar will carry Barcelona with a Ramires Mikel midfield? Do you think Neymar will carry Barcelona with a non overlapping right back playing as a left back or a zero-technique centre back playing as a right back? Do you think Neymar will carry the team if the whole team is set up to defend first and attack later?

Until you have Neymar carrying your team in similar circumstances, don't contribute to the topic please.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by JigsawKillah(m): 7:00pm On Oct 31, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Yes. And Liverpool beat Chelsea. Tell is somtin we dont already know...


you can barely spell. . . Shows you're just so desperate to troll

Get a life, bro
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 7:01pm On Oct 31, 2015
FBS:

Maybe you can show me what Hazard did for Belgium?

This is nonsense.

Don't deviate, you told nateevs that Messi is so spectacular, he carries his team and can deliver magical moments for Barca, he was like, if he was that spectacular, why hasn't he won the world cup with Argentina ever since.

Address that and quit saying something g else.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:03pm On Oct 31, 2015
nitlad:


Difference is, their attackers expertly did their part. Ours didn't.

That's the point. Added to it is, their central defenders did their jobs ours failed in theirs. Skrtel and sakho's reaction to mark out costa and co is the direct opposite of ours. They closed up our attackers and yawning space hurriedly, ours would be watching attackers dancing on the ball inside the box as if they were in concert, expecting them to balloon balls over the bar. Same thing happened when walters scored us mid-week, cahill just paused, when he was supposed to rush and narrow the scoring space. Gone were the days when terry, carvalho, alex would shut down goal scoring space in milliseconds rendering even top strikers ineffective.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:03pm On Oct 31, 2015
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:04pm On Oct 31, 2015
JigsawKillah:



you can barely spell. . . Shows you're just so desperate to troll

Get a life, bro
And if u had any sense, u'd see 'u' right there beside 'i' on ur keyboard...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 7:05pm On Oct 31, 2015
Chelseafan1:


This is nonsense.

Don't deviate, you told nateevs that Messi is so spectacular, he carries his team and can deliver magical moments for Barca, he was like, if he was that spectacular, why hasn't he won the world cup with Argentina ever since.

Address that and quit saying something g else.

Look dont be a follow follow and ignore your eyes.

Did argentina not make it to the WC finals. Was he not awarded the best player at the WC?(Deserved or not is a different argument). Was he not at the Copa America final? Was it not Higuain that ruined Messi's chances in those games?

Bruv....abeg jare...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:06pm On Oct 31, 2015
airmark:


That's the point. Added to it is, their central defenders did their jobs ours failed in theirs. Skrtel and sakho's reaction to mark out costa and co is the direct opposite of ours. They closed up our attackers and yawning space hurriedly, ours would be watching attackers dancing on the ball inside the box as if they were in concert, expecting them to balloon balls over the bar. Same thing happened when walters scored us mid-week, cahill just paused, when he was to rush and narrow the scoring space. Gone were the days when terry, carvalho, alex would shut down goal scoring space in milliseconds rendering even top strikers ineffective.

Nothing beats the feeling of seeing my old frnd airmark wailing cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:10pm On Oct 31, 2015
nateevs:



Mate I am not one of those fools you tango with. You either have a full understanding of my opinions altogether or don't quote me at all.

Do you think Neymar will carry Barcelona with a Ramires Mikel midfield? Do you think Neymar will carry Barcelona with a non overlapping right back playing as a left back or a zero-technique centre back playing as a right back? Do you think Neymar will carry the team if the whole team is set up to defend first and attack later?

Until you have Neymar carrying your team in similar circumstances, don't contribute to the topic please.

Why bother?
I wouldn't personally compare Hazard with Neymar. However, if i must, then i would expect Hazrd to also be given the same quality of support as Neymar has.
Meanwhile, stop arguing with haters. Hazard is world class. It's sad that the WHOLE TEAM is going through a very rough patch right now. Even Messi or Ronaldo would be poor right now if they were a part of the team.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by JigsawKillah(m): 7:11pm On Oct 31, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
And if u had any sense, u'd see 'u' right there beside 'i' on ur keyboard...


you didn't have to be in such a hurry. . .
Stop quoting me
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 7:18pm On Oct 31, 2015
sephia:


Why bother?
I wouldn't personally compare Hazard with Neymar. However, if i must, then i would expect Hazrd to also be given the same quality of support as Neymar has.
Meanwhile, stop arguing with haters. Hazard is world class. It's sad that the WHOLE TEAM is going through a very rough patch right now. Even Messi or Ronaldo would be poor right now if they were a part of the team.

That's exactly why I believe Jose is trying to keep things simple.

Defend. Safe Passes. Counter Attack.

The entire first half Liverppo looked useless especially after the goal.

It was when Coutinho scored his Clattenburg assisted goal, that the confidence drained out of the players. You could see it clearly, the boys were already mentally in the dressing room. IF, the goal had not gone in at that time, I dont think the game would have ended the way it did today.

This is a confidence game. How is it that Matic that was one of the best DMs in Europe only a few months back has been reduced to an unconfident mess, crying after being sent off at West Ham?

Hazard our number 1 spot kick taker cant put a simple pen past Butland?

Fabregas was the highest assister in the land only May this year, now he couldnt assist anyone even if he worked in Customer Care.

Cahill is still commited but plays like an eediot. Who needs a commited eediot?

Courtois is running around picking up red cards and getting chipped from centre circle....

There is something fundamentally wrong mayne!!!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:20pm On Oct 31, 2015
JigsawKillah:

you didn't have to be in such a hurry. . .
Blame it on fast Wifi.


Stop quoting me
No vex
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:21pm On Oct 31, 2015
nonsoroyalty:

Nothing beats the feeling of seeing my old frnd airmark wailing cheesy

Who is your old friend? cheesy Only God knows what blew you away from here.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:22pm On Oct 31, 2015
Nihilist:


That's exactly why I believe Jose is trying to keep things simple.

Defend. Safe Passes. Counter Attack.

The entire first half Liverppo looked useless especially after the goal.

It was when Coutinho scored his Clattenburg assisted goal, that the confidence drained out of the players. You could see it clearly, the boys were already mentally in the dressing room. IF, the goal had not gone in at that time, I dont think the game would have ended the way it did today.

This is a confidence game. How is it that Matic that was one of the best DMs in Europe only a few months back has been reduced to an unconfident mess, crying after being sent off at West Ham?

Hazard our number 1 spot kick taker cant put a simple pen past Butland?

Fabregas was the highest assister in the land only May this year, now he couldnt assist anyone even if he worked in Customer Care.

Cahill is still commited but plays like an eediot. Who needs a commited eediot?

Courtois is running around picking up red cards and getting chipped from centre circle....

There is something fundamentally wrong mayne!!!!

Lol at customer care.
If i was a superstitious lady i would say we need to go appease Eva.
It's unexplainable how everyone can be pathetic at the same time. Defending champions for that matter.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhelake: 7:22pm On Oct 31, 2015
You people wont kill me, what Hazard did last season is not more than what Willian has been doing this season, Hazard does not posses that self drive to make things happen single handedly consistently, boy is contented with some endless dribbles, few goals, some assists and some PK's.



Used to be a big fan of his, even believed he could win the WPOTY until i read some of his interviews,

My expectations of him since dropped, I still like him though but i am actually not surprised at his dip in form.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 7:24pm On Oct 31, 2015
Nihilist:


Look dont be a follow follow and ignore your eyes.

Did argentina not make it to the WC finals. Was he not awarded the best player at the WC?(Deserved or not is a different argument). Was he not at the Copa America final? Was it not Higuain that ruined Messi's chances in those games?

Bruv....abeg jare...

Bro, I have personally insulted Hazard today, I wasn't impressed with the way he played buh Chelsea's current predicament is beyond Hazard's shitty play, the way he keeps getting bashed on here is unnecessary and equally unreasonable.

He cannot be playing for Barca, Bayern, Madrid or even Man city and get blamed like this, the team is in a serious crises, even the world best footballer wud have it tough turning things around in this Chelsea team.

Ronaldo scored a lot of goals last season, Casillas and the defence let him down, they couldn't win any major trophy.

This is a team sport, every postion has to be up and running.

Costa was scoring for fun last season, Matic was rock solid, Fabregas held the league's highest no of assists, we had 2 great goal keepers who were trying to impress, the defense was the best in the league, can you say the same about the players this season?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhelake: 7:24pm On Oct 31, 2015
Nihilist:


That's exactly why I believe Jose is trying to keep things simple.

Defend. Safe Passes. Counter Attack.

The entire first half Liverppo looked useless especially after the goal.

It was when Coutinho scored his Clattenburg assisted goal, that the confidence drained out of the players. You could see it clearly, the boys were already mentally in the dressing room. IF, the goal had not gone in at that time, I dont think the game would have ended the way it did today.

This is a confidence game. How is it that Matic that was one of the best DMs in Europe only a few months back has been reduced to an unconfident mess, crying after being sent off at West Ham?

Hazard our number 1 spot kick taker cant put a simple pen past Butland?

Fabregas was the highest assister in the land only May this year, now he couldnt assist anyone even if he worked in Customer Care.

Cahill is still commited but plays like an eediot. Who needs a commited eediot?

Courtois is running around picking up red cards and getting chipped from centre circle....

There is something fundamentally wrong mayne!!!!



Like seriously

Many things, i don't want to believe it's just one thing
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 7:28pm On Oct 31, 2015
The midfield 'battle'

Doing the 'basics'

Puhleeeasse...

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by parrotibaba(m): 7:32pm On Oct 31, 2015
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 7:32pm On Oct 31, 2015
nateevs:



Mate I am not one of those fools you tango with. You either have a full understanding of my opinions altogether or don't quote me at all.

[b]Do you think Neymar will carry Barcelona with a Ramires Mikel midfield? [/b]Do you think Neymar will carry Barcelona with a non overlapping right back playing as a left back or a zero-technique centre back playing as a right back? Do you think Neymar will carry the team if the whole team is set up to defend first and attack later?

Until you have Neymar carrying your team in similar circumstances, don't contribute to the topic please.

Normally, I don't contribute to Chelsea's discussion, but I would like you talk without adding insult. Ok

Neymar thrived well with Ramires and Gustavo in midfield, and they won trophies for Brazil. How is Ramires/Gustavo combo better than Ramires/Mikel? Yet, Neymar carried the team.

In Barcelona, Neymar is paired with a center back (Mattieu) who played left back, and he flourished. Hell, he was even paired with Sergio Roberto and he excelled.

We have a midfield pairing of Busquets, Mash and Rakitic, and Neymar plays the 10 role. He's had 4 goals and 5 assists in just 3 games he played there.

Let's call a spade a spade. Until Hazard does half of these this season, he'll continue to get slammed by critics like me.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 7:35pm On Oct 31, 2015
Chelseafan1:


Bro, I have personally insulted Hazard today, I wasn't impressed with the way he played buh Chelsea's current predicament is beyond Hazard's shitty play, the way he keeps getting bashed on here is unnecessary and equally unreasonable.

He cannot be playing for Barca, Bayern, Madrid or even Man city and get blamed like this, the team is in a serious crises, even the world best footballer wud have it tough turning things around in this Chelsea team.

Ronaldo scored a lot of goals last season, Casillas and the defence let him down, they couldn't win any major trophy.

This is a team sport, every postion has to be up and running.

Costa was scoring for fun last season, Matic was rock solid, Fabregas held the league's highest no of assists, we had 2 great goal keepers who were trying to impress, the defense was the best in the league, can you say the same about the players this season?


Hazard was easily the worst player today. That would have been visible to Stevie Wonder. This argument ensued when certain posters are trying to deflect from Hazard's disgusting form by blaming the 'midfield' as the primary culprits in today's defeat. Lucas had been out of the team for 2 years and was about to be sold. Can has been playing at Right Back for club and country for the last year. Yet these guys are 'midfielders' and ours are not, despite statistical and visual evidence that those guys were not better than Mikel and Ramires today....

Naaaah.

I can't get jiggy with that. Hazard was the most culpable of all our players today.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:38pm On Oct 31, 2015
nitlad:


Look, I am not saying that Mikel and Ramires are capable.

I admit the effort required to show them up as incompetent sods is little - which Coutinho and co did.

I am also telling you in the same vein that the effort required to call out Can and Lucas as unreliable serfs is equally little - which Hazard and co didn't do.

That is the import of my yarns.

You missing the point entirely.

For Coutinho to directly attack Mikel and Ramires in Chelsea half, he needs a mobile midfield behind him.

If Chelsea forwards have a mobile midfield behind them, they would be in Liverpool half attacking Lucas and Can to potentially embarass them as you say. However no Chelsea forward line can press forward with ninjas like Mikel behind them. Even if they wanted to, the manager will not allow them knowing the midfield is susceptible on the break, as is John Terry to boot.

You may have short memory, but I can remind you of West Ham 3 - 1 Chelsea, Chelsea 2 - 2 Juventus, Donetsk 3 - 1 Chelsea, Newcastle 3 - 2 Chelsea, all games where Chelsea tried to play in the opponents half and Mikel and co got murdered on the break.

Mikel and Ramires influence on the team is tactically fatal. Any team with those two shielding must park the bus or get roasted on the counterattack. I wish I could make a compilation video right now of what happens when Chelsea commit to attack and leave Mikel to guard the defence. You will see a whole load of escorting and Mikel decelerating while his opponent is accelerating to score. The list of ninjas who raped Mikel the moment he stepped to the halfway line is horrendous but not limited to Mo Diame, Tevez, Bellamy, Sissoko, Marchisio etc. All ninjas you see Mikel escorting to goal.

This is why Chelsea midfield could not cross the halfway line and our forwards cannot receive the ball in advanced positions. Lucas and Can are mobile enough to allow Coutinho and co to play high up the pitch. The tactical influence on the team is the difference between Maiduguri and New York, never mind how many tackles were made.

This is the key point you are failing to grasp.

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