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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 7:23am On Nov 01, 2015
cocoduck:
ostrich bury your head in the sand
Cocoduck u don't know nothing.... gerrarahere menshit

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by cocoduck: 7:25am On Nov 01, 2015
Phinity318:

Cocoduck know nothing.... gerrarahere menshit
mr know all

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Candyrain(m): 7:27am On Nov 01, 2015
And you are who to tell the Igbos what to do and what not? undecided

Phinity318:
Attention: Nigeria is one, It's high time the igbos realise the fact that we are an indivisible sovereign state.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by EternalTruths: 7:31am On Nov 01, 2015
gists:
The US nuked Japan. So the US is evil right? Wrong!!
The alternative was for US to send foot soldiers to Japan and the casualties of the nuclear bomb would have been child's play.
Yes its true alot of atrocities were conducted by the Nigerian army. But so did the Biafran army too! What on earth were the Biafran army doing in Oore on their way to Lagos? Are those places (Ore and Lagos) part of Biafran land? Were the Biafran soldiers planting flowers along the way before they were stopped?
This is not a time to be politically correct. Truth should be told. Yes alot of very bad atrocities were committed - by both sides. No I do not support those atrocities. But no body should try to rewrite history as if the Biafran soldiers where singing the holy hymns. Nobdy seem to be expressing empathy for the people of Mid west that were killed by Biafrans.

Biafra should just ask for independence peacefully and respectfully and let hear word.


If you don't your region invaded , make sure it is not a supply route for military weapons cool

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 7:33am On Nov 01, 2015
The highly emotional nature of Igbos is why other tribes take them for a ride.

First it was Tonyebarcanista who used them to achieve fame on NL by fooling them with a Lower Niger congress which they thought was equivalent to Biafra. They did everything possible to support him by giving him likes and shares which enabled his post hit front page. The moment he realised that they wanted something in return which is having his oil and land as theirs, he quickly made his true colours known to the deceived lots by spelling out boundaries to them. They now hate him like poo cos they have been dumped.

It's so sad that these same people are willing to go on thesame journey. Look at the way they are happy about cramjones post, a person known to have lost relevance now trying to ride on the emotions of igbos back to usefulness.

Say something good about biafra and watch how Igbos will love you and forgive you for your past sins on them just as they currently see FFK as a reasonable hero, a man who lambasted them during the deportation saga by telling them the amount of Igbo prominent ladies he's bedded.

Igbos should know that it is not everyone that shouts biafra that is truly in support of it. GEJ used it to buy their votes. Asari dokubo used it to buy their allegiance and now FFK and Kemi olunloyo who are confirmed Igbo haters are beginning to use thesame rhetoric to score cheap. All these people are PDP goons and PDP is a party that is all about division. They have infiltrated Afenifere and PDP and her using it to clamour for a yoruba secession. But yorubas aren't fools cos they know who they are. They remember their exploits during the election period and the stand they took. They are pro-PDP and yoruba nation is not.

Igbos should pls think.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 7:36am On Nov 01, 2015
Candyrain:
And you are who to tell the Igbos what to do and what not? undecided

All of u clamoring for biafra are jobless and don't have anything doing like Director.. those big players who have a stake and businesses spread across Nigeria knows the loss they will incur if It's ever happens.. reason why the clamour is from the bottom (low class ) and not the top. If u don't know the losses the igbos incurred after the civil war then read the aftermath of the biafran war. don't come here and start running ur mouth like u matter. cos ur opinion will start and end here online... and seun will push back this topic to the back (dust ) once new ones are created. last bullet: we are better off as one... make good of ur life and become relevant.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by gists: 7:46am On Nov 01, 2015
EternalTruths:

If you don't your region invaded , make sure it is not a supply route for military weapons cool

In other words, the invasion of Benin and Ore and the resulting atrocities were justified (simply because they were supply routes) but those atrocities committed by the Nigerian troops are the only evil deeds. Many Biafrans were happy with the state burial given to Ojukwu while some people are asking Gowon to be taken to ICC. What hypocrisy!

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by cocoduck: 7:54am On Nov 01, 2015
Phinity318:
All of u clamoring for biafra are jobless and don't have anything doing like Director.. those big players who have a stake and businesses spread across Nigeria knows the loss they will incur if It's ever happens.. reason why the clamour is from the bottom (low class ) and not the top. If u don't know the losses the igbos incurred after the civil war then read the aftermath of the biafran war. don't come here and start running ur mouth like u matter. cos ur opinion will start and end here online... and seun will push back this topic to the back (dust ) once new ones are created. last bullet: we are better off as one... make good of ur life and become relevant.
you cannot even boast of three square meal a day, and you call another person jobless, even people who are into business suddenly become jobless because of self determination, sorry, marriage is not by force! let it sink deep into your thick skull

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by EternalTruths: 7:55am On Nov 01, 2015
gists:


In other words, the invasion of Benin and Ore and the resulting atrocities were justified (simply because they were supply routes) but those atrocities committed by the Nigerian troops are the only evil deeds. Many Biafrans were happy with the state burial given to Ojukwu while some people are asking Gowon to be taken to ICC. What hypocrisy!


The atrocities are unjustify


But


The invasion is justified cool
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by cocoduck: 7:57am On Nov 01, 2015
gists:


In other words, the invasion of Benin and Ore and the resulting atrocities were justified (simply because they were supply routes) but those atrocities committed by the Nigerian troops are the only evil deeds. Many Biafrans were happy with the state burial given to Ojukwu while some people are asking Gowon to be taken to ICC. What hypocrisy!
who doesn't know that gowon is a war criminal?

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by imsuboi(m): 8:05am On Nov 01, 2015
gists:
The US nuked Japan. So the US is evil right? Wrong!!
The alternative was for US to send foot soldiers to Japan and the casualties of the nuclear bomb would have been child's play.

Yes its true alot of atrocities were conducted by the Nigerian army. But so did the Biafran army too! What on earth were the Biafran army doing in Oore on their way to Lagos? Are those places (Ore and Lagos) part of Biafran land? Were the Biafran soldiers planting flowers along the way before they were stopped?
This is not a time to be politically correct. Truth should be told. Yes alot of very bad atrocities were committed - by both sides. No I do not support those atrocities. But no body should try to rewrite history as if the Biafran soldiers where singing the holy hymns. Nobdy seem to be expressing empathy for the people of Mid west that were killed by Biafrans.

Biafra should just ask for independence peacefully and respectfully and let hear word.


Just when I thought I've come across (and indexed) all the dvmb people on this forum, here comes this fellow aiming for the number one spot. grin grin

Did your mama drop you on your head when you were little?

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Candyrain(m): 8:08am On Nov 01, 2015
Ok. Have a good day.

Phinity318:
All of u clamoring for biafra are jobless and don't have anything doing like Director.. those big players who have a stake and businesses spread across Nigeria knows the loss they will incur if It's ever happens.. reason why the clamour is from the bottom (low class ) and not the top. If u don't know the losses the igbos incurred after the civil war then read the aftermath of the biafran war. don't come here and start running ur mouth like u matter. cos ur opinion will start and end here online... and seun will push back this topic to the back (dust ) once new ones are created. last bullet: we are better off as one... make good of ur life and become relevant.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by gists: 8:16am On Nov 01, 2015
imsuboi:



Just when I thought I've come across (and indexed) all the dvmb people on this forum, here comes this fellow aiming for the number one spot. grin grin

Did your mama drop you on your head when you were little?
Don't tell me you expect US to fold its arms after Japan attacked Pearl harbor.
Is nuclear Bomb good? No I don't support it but in hindsight, it probably was the best option considering the technology available at that time.
So, the wise one, do you mind suggesting a better alternative? Its easy to criticize and call people names. But if you don't have any better alternative/suggestion (in the given scenario) you better shut the fvck up.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 8:28am On Nov 01, 2015
cocoduck:

you cannot even boast of three square meal a day, and you call another person jobless, even people who are into business suddenly become jobless because of self determination, sorry, marriage is not by force! let it sink deep into your thick skull
ok. have a good.
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 8:33am On Nov 01, 2015
gists:
I just don't get it when people play the victim card on the number of people that died in the inglorious civil war. I don't care about the number be it 500k, 1m, 3m or even 10m! Afterall, it was a war and the biafra soldiers were not saying the lords prayers - they were busy killing Nigerians too.

For some reasons, I took a public transport some weeks ago I heard some guys discussing (they were both ibos). One of them ask the other "how on earth do you fight with someone that feeds you?" According to him, although Awolowo was wrong for the so-called starvation policy, but should be commended for ending the war sooner because he (Awo) could have chosen to poison the foods and kill millions more instead of the blockade.

I never thought of it that way before but it rang through to me. You can't pick up a fight with your boss and later turn around complaining that he sacks you! His point was that the ibos started a war that they were not prepared for and now complaining of the consequence - fighting someone that feed you and later complain of not giving you food.

Having said that the truth is that everybody has a GOD given right to call for self-determination. BUT it must be through peaceful means. Otherwise history is notorious of having a way to repeat itself. A friend showed me a video on a questions and answer summit by some Igbo group with Mr Kanu. It was shocking to see how unprepaired the guy is as he couldn't give convincing answers to some of the questions asked.

Any group is free to ask for independence but it has to be peaceful without insult to others especially those who they think should follow them.

So, if your wife decides to leave, you'll poison or starve her to death? What are you saying?
Is it by force? The biafrans decided to leave, what's wrong with that?

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by philcz(m): 8:43am On Nov 01, 2015
Saw a map of the proposed biafra with a part of Benue state which is in the North Central included and i laughed.
NOTE: No Biafran should nurture the hope of including any part of Benue how ever small into this biafran project or else We'll show everyone once again how we denied Usman Danfodio entry into our land years ago and how we changed the course of the civil war.. Nigeria may be a zoo but we are the lions of this zoo...

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by gists: 8:55am On Nov 01, 2015
FREEDOM4BIAFRA:


So, if your wife decides to leave, you'll poison or starve her to death? What are you saying?
Is it by force? The biafrans decided to leave, what's wrong with that?
my wife is free to leave, if she will not ask me for food and their is no way for me to starve her because she is self reliant.
But she'll be fo0lish to leave if she is a housewife without any means of supporting herself and still want sustenance from me.
BTW this is not a husband-wife situation. Its more like an employer-employee relationship. If an employee wants to leave a company, why on earth does he still want to be paid salary from the same company he just left?

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by vivalavida(m): 8:58am On Nov 01, 2015
EzePromoe:
[b]Who told you that the South East is underdeveloped? You guys don't know the actual meaning of development. Development is not by building roads or other infrastructures where its population are prevalently lazy by nature. For me, the South East is developed because of its Labour force and human resources which it supplies to the entire nation and still maintain a pace that can compete with what's obtainable in regions that are economically viable. The only indigenous Automobile industry Nigeria has is in the South East. With no government, the people of the South East have created the two of the largest markets in West Africa. That shows you that the Igbos are capitalist in nature. And again, need I remind you that Anambra is the only 3-city state in the country. WHAT YOU GUYS ALWAYS THINK IS THAT BECAUSE YOU SEE IGBO BUSINESSMEN IN YOUR HOMETOWN OR WHERE YOU LIVE, THEN IT EQUATES TO THE FACT THAT THE SOUTH EAST IS UNREDEEMABLY UNDERDEVELOPED. YOU SEE THE IGBO MAN IN YOUR COMPOUND AS SOMEONE COMING TO SEEK GREENER PASTURE, WHICH IS TOTALLY A VERY INCORRECT PERCEPTION. Many of you don't know the level of competition that exists in the South East. You will be marvelled at the vibrant business activity that goes on even in the remotest village in the South East. It's only normal that any sane man will migrate to a far away region where he thinks there are lesser competition and large purchasing power in order to do his business. Is Nigeria more developed than those Western or Asian countries that do businesses here? It's simple business strategy. It pains me that people can concoct garbage about Igbos in the comfort of their bedroom and publish it as fact, and the mentally lazy ones who can't make simple research will swallow it hook, line and sinker and relay the same garbage in an exaggerated manner, to his neighbour. Thank God I've been to the South East if not I will be making this kind of assumption.

About Biafra, I think the Government escalated this agitation by negligence and show of tyranny. As much as I love this country, I'm afraid that this agitation has gotten to its climax where it can't be negotiated. This is the bitter truth that fellow patriots like me can't come in term with. The FG made this mistake with Boko Haram and look at where they are today. The FG are indirectly radicalizing this pro-Biafran agitators without knowing it. They think they are defending the nation's unity but they're wrong. What they're actually doing is grooming the hatred for Nigeria in the heart of young Igbo Nigerians (who are no longer seeing themselves as Nigerians by the way). This hatred if not curtailed now at its infancy will grow to an extent where it will go violent, and that is the last thing Nigeria needs now. Some Nigerians are so foolish to think that any uprising that starts in Igbo land will be felt only in Igbo land. Use Boko Haram as case study. Nigeria's economy is dwindling today because the government is spending what it hadn't intended to on procuring ammunitions to combat the terrorists and with oil prize dwindling, the coffers where these money are coming out from are not being replenished. And here again we have investors closing their investments due to poor economic planning by this administration.
The Nigerian government should just leave these Biafran activists alone. You can use the police to kill them and stop their protests but you can't use the police to take their agitation from their hearts. What use is it having citizens that hate their country with all their hearts?
[/b]

1000 likes for u bro

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 9:11am On Nov 01, 2015
gists:

my wife is free to leave, if she will not ask me for food and their is no way for me to starve her because she is self reliant.
But she'll be fo0lish to leave if she is a housewife without any means of supporting herself and still want sustenance from me.
BTW this is not a husband-wife situation. Its more like an employer-employee relationship. If an employee wants to leave a company, why on earth does he still want to be paid salary from the same company he just left?

Far from it, he doesn't want the salary, he wants nothing but self determination, so its okay to call out a war against him?

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by IGBOPRINCE: 9:11am On Nov 01, 2015
EzePromoe:
[b]Who told you that the South East is underdeveloped? You guys don't know the actual meaning of development. Development is not by building roads or other infrastructures where its population are prevalently lazy by nature. For me, the South East is developed because of its Labour force and human resources which it supplies to the entire nation and still maintain a pace that can compete with what's obtainable in regions that are economically viable. The only indigenous Automobile industry Nigeria has is in the South East. With no federal government presence, the people of the South East have created the two of the largest markets in West Africa (Onitsha and Ariaria). That shows you that the Igbos are capitalist in nature and orientation. And again, need I remind you that Anambra is the only 3-city state in the country? WHAT YOU GUYS ALWAYS THINK IS THAT BECAUSE YOU SEE IGBO BUSINESSMEN IN YOUR HOMETOWN OR WHERE YOU LIVE, THEN IT EQUATES TO THE FACT THAT THE SOUTH EAST IS UNREDEEMABLY UNDERDEVELOPED. YOU SEE THE IGBO MAN IN YOUR COMPOUND AS SOMEONE COMING TO SEEK GREENER PASTURE, WHICH IS TOTALLY A VERY INCORRECT PERCEPTION. Many of you don't know the level of competition that exists in the South East. You will be marvelled at the vibrant business activity that goes on even in the remotest village in the South East. It's only normal that any sane man will migrate to a far away region where he thinks there are lesser competition and large purchasing power in order to do his business. Is Nigeria more developed than those Western or Asian countries that do businesses here? It's simple business strategy. It pains me that people can concoct garbage about Igbos in the comfort of their bedroom and publish it as fact, and the mentally lazy ones who can't make simple research will swallow it hook, line and sinker and relay the same garbage in an exaggerated manner, to his neighbour. Thank God I've been to the South East if not I will be making this kind of assumption.

About Biafra, I think the Government escalated this agitation by negligence and show of tyranny. As much as I love this country, I'm afraid that this agitation has gotten to its climax where it can't be negotiated. This is the bitter truth that fellow patriots like me won't come to terms with. The FG made this mistake with Boko Haram and look at where they are today. The FG are indirectly radicalizing this pro-Biafran agitators without knowing it. They think they are defending the nation's unity but they're wrong. What they're actually doing is grooming the hatred for Nigeria in the heart of young Igbo Nigerians (who are no longer seeing themselves as Nigerians by the way). This hatred if not curtailed now at its infancy will grow to an extent where it will go violent, and that is the last thing Nigeria needs now. Some Nigerians are so foolish to think that any uprising that starts in Igbo land will be felt only in Igbo land. Use Boko Haram as case study. Nigeria's economy is dwindling today because the government is spending what it hadn't intended to on procuring ammunitions to combat the terrorists and with oil prize dwindling, the coffers where these money are coming out from are not being replenished. And here again we have investors closing their investments due to poor economic planning by this administration.
The Nigerian government should just leave these Biafran activists alone. You can use the police to kill them and stop their protests but you can't use the police to take their agitation from their hearts. What use is it having citizens that hate their country with all their hearts?
[/b]
make una read again.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 9:13am On Nov 01, 2015
@OP; and all the "one Nigeria" chanters, why are you all recklessly determined on retaining your slave name (Nigerian), given to you by a strange Oyibo woman?

Even your usage of so-called official language (English) is not recognize by neither the English law nor the British law books, in fact no African country is recognized by it!

What is bloody wrong with the "black" man? angry

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 9:23am On Nov 01, 2015
philcz:
Saw a map of the proposed biafra with a part of Benue state which is in the North Central included and i laughed.
NOTE: No Biafran should nurture the hope of including any part of Benue how ever small into this biafran project or else We'll show everyone once again how we denied Usman Danfodio entry into our land years ago and how we changed the course of the civil war.. Nigeria may be a zoo but we are the lions of this zoo...

Read this if you can: http://sunnewsonline.com/new/weve-abandoned-igbos-benue-cry/.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by gists: 9:27am On Nov 01, 2015
FREEDOM4BIAFRA:

Far from it, he doesn't want the salary, he wants nothing but self determination, so its okay to call out a war against him?
I think you are getting things twisted. I never said you want anything from Nigerian and I didn't say Nigeria should "call out a war against them". What I said is that I heard a conversation between 2 igbo guys in a taxi. One of them made a point that the Igbos were not prepared for the war they started. he went further to buttress his point that why should the biafrans expect food from Nigeria that she is waging war against. If they were prepared for it, they wouldn't need Nigerian money which they stole from the CBN to finance the war. A simple change of currency and food blockade (both of which Biafra fo0lishly still depended on Nigeria to provide) won the war for Nigeria. It showed they were not prepared for the war and it cost them greatly.
Sadly, it looks as if the lessons of that war has not been learnt.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by EternalTruths: 9:29am On Nov 01, 2015
philcz:
Saw a map of the proposed biafra with a part of Benue state which is in the North Central included and i laughed.
NOTE: No Biafran should nurture the hope of including any part of Benue how ever small into this biafran project or else We'll show everyone once again how we denied Usman Danfodio entry into our land years ago and how we changed the course of the civil war.. Nigeria may be a zoo but we are the lions of this zoo...


Indigenous Igboland carved into Benue will partake in the referendum



You guys are free to remain slaves in Nigeria grin

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by biafranqueen: 9:34am On Nov 01, 2015
cramjones:
The biafran people where massacred, raped and sodomized by the Nigerian forces. The government of Yakubu Gowon created an embargo and prevented food and essentials medicines from reaching the people of Biafra, thereby leading to the death of over a million people. Recall that the jews all over the world still remember the massacre of 6 million jews, but the Nigerian state have chosen to ignore such despicable genocide against the Biafran people. General Yakubu Gowon should be a war criminal facing trial at the ICC, but today he is being celebrated.

For those of you that have never experienced war, you will never know that peace is the greatest gift you can ever have. There is no Nairalanding or facebooking at the time of war, what you see is death, rape, disease and hunger! It is horrible! We must find a peaceful way of resolving the issue of Biafra. War is should never be an option.

-CramJones
I for once agree with you!
#BrainsNotBlood 4Biafra .....

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by wisdomguy4u(m): 9:37am On Nov 01, 2015
gists:

my wife is free to leave, if she will not ask me for food and their is no way for me to starve her because she is self reliant.
But she'll be fo0lish to leave if she is a housewife without any means of supporting herself and still want sustenance from me.
BTW this is not a husband-wife situation. Its more like an employer-employee relationship. If an employee wants to leave a company, why on earth does he still want to be paid salary from the same company he just left?

Bros, your clueless is legendary. Who told you Nigeria was feeding biafrans ? Nigeria only through the help of britain blocked the international humanitarian agencies from bringing in food and medicine into biafra. Such action amount to war crime dunce. Gowon is a war criminal

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by freshvine(f): 9:37am On Nov 01, 2015
If Biafra could wage war with the Nigerian army for 3years +, 40 years ago using cutlass, Dane guns and locally fabricated detonating device I wonder what will happen now that the average igbo man of fighting age can conveniently purchase AK 47 rifle.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by biafranqueen: 9:38am On Nov 01, 2015
philcz:
Saw a map of the proposed biafra with a part of Benue state which is in the North Central included and i laughed.
NOTE: No Biafran should nurture the hope of including any part of Benue how ever small into this biafran project or else We'll show everyone once again how we denied Usman Danfodio entry into our land years ago and how we changed the course of the civil war.. Nigeria may be a zoo but we are the lions of this zoo...
Don't flatter yourself it will be 5 Igbo states other groups can rally to be included. Less is more we don't need extra luggage.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by philcz(m): 9:48am On Nov 01, 2015
FrankAba1:


Read this if you can: http://sunnewsonline.com/new/weve-abandoned-igbos-benue-cry/.
Ok Noted.. I guess you guys will've to find a place for them outside Benue when you get your biafra..

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by philcz(m): 9:53am On Nov 01, 2015
EternalTruths:



Indigenous Igboland carved into Benue will partake in the referendum



You guys are free to remain slaves in Nigeria grin
And those 'indigenous igboland' would be

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 9:56am On Nov 01, 2015
philcz:
Ok Noted.. I guess you guys will've to find a place for them outside Benue when you get your biafra..

Lol. Are they migrants in their own land?

Remember states where created irrespective of people's tribe. Just like you have Igbos in Edo, Rivers and Delta states.

Biafra is not by force, anyway.

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