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Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 7:10am On Nov 01, 2015 |
WINE: GOOD OR EVIL? (What does the Bible teach?) answers from the Bible The English word "wine" comes from the Proto-Germanic "winam", an early borrowing from the Latin "vinum". Wine is an alcoholic beverage made from fermented grapes or other fruits. Fermentation in wine making turns grape juice (or other fruits) into an alcoholic beverage. During fermentation, yeasts transform sugars present in the juice into ethanol and carbon dioxide (as a by-product). The natural chemical balance of grapes lets them ferment without the addition of sugars, acids, enzymes, water, or other nutrients. Yeast consumes the sugars in the grapes and converts them into alcohol and carbon dioxide. Different varieties of grapes and strains of yeasts produce different styles of wine. The well-known variations result from the very complex interactions between the biochemical development of the fruit, reactions involved in fermentation, terroir and subsequent appellation, along with human intervention in the overall process. Wines made from produce besides grapes are usually named after the product from which they are produced (for example, rice wine, pomegranate wine, apple wine and elderberry wine) and are generically called fruit wine. One of the first mentions of wine in Scripture is by Melchizedek, priest of the Most High God at Salem (Jerusalem) during the time of Abram, whose name was later changed to Abraham. Melchizedek “brought forth bread and wine”for Abram and his companions - Genesis 14:18. The Hebrew word translated wine in Genesis 14:18 is yayin. This word is used over 130 times in the Hebrew Bible to mean fermented wine, not grape juice. Genesis 9:21 says that Noah drank too much yayin and became drunk. Lot also became drunk on this beverage - Genesis 19:30-36, and so did Nabal - 1 Samuel 25:36. Nevertheless, God told his people to enjoy yayin at the yearly festivals - Deuteronomy 14:26. In addition to using wine as a beverage, God also commanded the Levitical priests to include in the sacrifices a portion of wine(yayin) as a drink offering - Exodus 29:40. A blessing of wine was prophesied as a heritage to the chosen people in Genesis 27:28: “May God give you heaven’s dew and earth’s richness — an abundance of grain and new wine[tirosh].” The Hebrew word tirosh,meaning “new wine,” is used in 38 places in the Old Testament. People sometimes conclude that this word means grape juice, or fresh-pressed juice of the vine. However, Hosea 4:11 states: “Old wine [yayin] and new wine [tirosh] take away their understanding.” Grape juice could not have this effect. These scriptures make it clear that there can be a right and a wrong use of wine. Scripture has much to say regarding the drinking of alcohol. Leviticus 10:9; Numbers 6:3;Deuteronomy 29:6 ; ...encourages, “Yes, come buy wine and milk…” The Bible says that God gave wine to make men glad - Psalm 104:15. What God commands Christians regarding alcohol is to avoid drunkenness - Ephesians 5:18. The Bible condemns drunkenness and its effects - Proverbs 23:29-35. Christians are also commanded to not allow their bodies to be “mastered” by anything - 1 Corinthians 6:12; 2 Peter 2:19. Drinking alcohol in excess is undeniably addictive. Scripture also forbids a Christian from doing anything that might offend other Christians or encourage them to sin against their conscience - 1 Corinthians 8:9-13. In light of these principles, it would be extremely difficult for any Christian to say he is drinking alcohol in excess to the glory of God - 1 Corinthians 10:31. Jesus changed water into wine. It even seems that Jesus drank wine on occasion - John 2:1-11; Matthew 26:29. John the Baptist did not drink wine (oinos in the Greek) or any other form of alcohol because it was prophesied that he wouldn’t (being a Nazarite) - Luke 1:15. However, Jesus Christ did drink oinos (wine) - Matthew 11:19: "The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ But wisdom is proved right by her deeds.”; Luke 7:34. Jesus did not preach against the use of wine; instead he did like most other Jews of his day. He drank wine in moderation. In ancient times it was normally diluted with water for drinking, and was one of the principal beverages at that time — as it is today. Jesus gave a parable involving the fermenting process of oinos in Matthew 9:17. At that time, instead of having metal or glass bottles to enclose wine, the skins of animals were used. The fermentation of the wine could burst an old skin, but it would not break a new stretchable skin. In New Testament times, the water was not very clean. Without modern sanitation, the water was often filled with bacteria, viruses, and all kinds of contaminants. The same is true in many third-world countries today. As a result, people often drank wine (or grape juice) because it was far less likely to be contaminated. In 1 Timothy 5:23, Paul was instructing Timothy to stop drinking the water (which was probably causing his stomach problems) and instead drink wine. In that day, wine was fermented (containing alcohol), but not necessarily to the degree it is today. It is incorrect to say that it was grape juice, but it is also incorrect to say that it was the same thing as the wine commonly used today. THE QUESTION PEOPLE KEEP ASKING IS: "DID JESUS TURN WATER INTO WINE OR GRAPE JUICE"? John chapter 2 records Jesus performing a miracle at a wedding in Cana of Galilee. The point of the account is summarized in John 2:11, "He thus revealed His glory, and His disciples put their faith in Him." Usually, though, when this passage is studied, a side issue becomes the main issue. Did Jesus transform the water into wine (fermented, alcoholic) or into grape juice (non-alcoholic)? Throughout the passage, the Greek word translated "wine" is oinos, which was the common Greek word for normal wine, wine that was fermented/alcoholic. The Greek word for the wine Jesus created is the same word for the wine the wedding feast ran out of. The Greek word for the wine Jesus created is also the same word that is used in Ephesians 5:18, "...do not get drunk on wine..." Obviously, getting drunk from drinking wine requires the presence of alcohol. Everything, from the context of a wedding feast, to the usage of oinos in 1st century Greek literature (in the New Testament and outside the New Testament), argues for the wine that Jesus created to be normal, ordinary wine, containing alcohol. There is simply no solid historical, cultural, exegetical, contextual, or lexical reason to understand it to have been grape juice. Those who oppose the drinking of alcohol, in any quantity, argue that Jesus would not have turned the water into wine, as He would have been promoting the consumption of a substance that is tainted by sin. In this understanding, alcohol itself is inherently sinful, and consumption of alcohol in any quantity is sin. That is not a biblical understanding, however. Some Scriptures discuss alcohol in positive terms. Ecclesiastes 9:7 instructs, “Drink your wine with a merry heart.” Psalm 104:14-15 states that God gives wine “that makes glad the heart of men.” Amos 9:14 discusses drinking wine from your own vineyard as a sign of God’s blessing. Isaiah 55:1 encourages, “Yes, come buy wine and milk…” From these and other Scriptures, it is clear that alcohol itself is not inherently sinful. Rather, it is the abuse of alcohol, drunkenness and/or addiction, that is sinful - Ephesians 5:18; Proverbs 23:29-35; 1 Corinthians 6:12; 2 Peter 2:19. Therefore, it would not have been a sin for Jesus to create a drink that contained alcohol. A second related argument is that by creating alcoholic wine, Jesus would have been promoting drunkenness, which the Bible clearly identifies as sinful. This is not a valid argument. Was Jesus promoting gluttony when He multiplied the fishes and loaves far beyond what the people needed? Of course not. Creating a substance that can be abused does not make one responsible when another person foolishly chooses to abuse it. Jesus creating alcoholic wine was in no sense encouraging drunkenness. The belief that Jesus created alcoholic wine is definitely more in agreement with the context and the definition/usage of oinos. The primary reasons for interpreting it as grape juice, that alcohol is inherently sinful or that the creation of alcohol would have been encouraging drunkenness, are unbiblical and invalid. There is simply no good biblical reason to understand John:2 as anything other than Jesus performing an amazing miracle by turning water into real wine. Alcohol is not, in and of itself, tainted by sin. It is drunkenness an addiction to alcohol that a Christian must absolutely refrain from - Ephesians 5:18; 1 Corinthians 6:12. Alcohol, consumed in small quantities, is neither harmful nor addictive. In fact, some doctors advocate drinking small amounts of red wine for its health benefits, especially for the heart. Consumption of small quantities of alcohol is a matter of Christian freedom. Drunkenness and addiction are sinful. However, due to the biblical concerns regarding alcohol and its effects, due to the easy temptation to consume alcohol in excess, and due to the possibility of causing offense and/or stumbling of others, it is often best for a Christian to abstain from drinking alcohol. There is only one group of people who are explicitly told in the Bible to never drink wine/alcohol, and that is the Nazirites - Numbers 6:1–4. Jesus was not a Nazirite; He was a “Nazarene,” a native of the town of Nazareth - Luke 18:37. Jesus never took the Nazirite vow. Christ’s first miracle of turning water into wine at the wedding at Cana almost certainly involved a fermented beverage. According to Jewish wedding tradition, fermented wine was always served at weddings; if Jesus had provided only grape juice, the master of the feast would have complained. Instead, he said the wine was better than what was previously served; it was apparently a “fine” wine - John 2:10–11. The Greek word for “drunk” in John 2:10 is methuo, which means “to be drunken” or intoxicated. It is the same word used in Acts 2:15 where Peter is defending the apostles against accusations of drunkenness. The testimony of the master of the feast is that the wine Christ produced was able to intoxicate. Of course, just because Jesus turned water into wine doesn’t prove that He drank the wine at the wedding, but it would have been normal for Him to do so. What it does prove is that Jesus doesn’t condemn drinking wine any more than He condemns eating bread. Sinful people abuse what is not inherently sinful. Bread and wine are not sinful, but gluttony and drunkenness are - Proverbs 23:2; Ephesians 5:18. In Luke 7:33–44, Jesus said, “For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!". In verse 33 Jesus is making a contrast between John the Baptist’s “drinking no wine” and His own practice. Jesus goes on to say the religious leaders accused Him (falsely) of being a drunkard. Jesus was never a drunkard, any more than He was a glutton. He lived a completely sinless life - 1 Peter 2:22; however Luke 7 strongly suggests that Jesus did indeed partake of alcoholic wine. The Passover celebration would also have commonly included fermented wine. The Scriptures use the term “fruit of the vine” - Matthew 26:27–29; Mark 14:23–25; Luke 22:17–18. Of course, Christ participated in drinking from the Passover cup - Mark 14:23). All Christians would agree drunkenness is sinful, and Christ Himself warns against it - Luke 12:45. However, a biblical view of wine is that it is given as something to delight in - Psalm 104:14–15. There are plenty of warnings against alcohol abuse, in texts like Proverbs 20:1, because sinful men are more likely to abuse wine than to use it in moderation. Those who try to use Jesus’ probable use of wine to excuse their drunkenness should heed the warning in Luke 12:45. Christians who want to keep a biblical view of drinking wine should either drink in moderation, never to drunkenness, or abstain totally. The Lord be with you. - O.S. Emejulu CC Lalasticlala 134 Likes 31 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by actoor(m): 7:13am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Av always knew this but some religion fanatic will soon come and call you names. 22 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 7:15am On Nov 01, 2015 |
actoor:Sorry for the lengthy stuff. But there was no way I could have made it short. Meanwhile follow the author (me) on Facebook @ www.facebook.com/stanley.emejulu 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by BreezyCB(m): 7:20am On Nov 01, 2015 |
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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 7:24am On Nov 01, 2015 |
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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by psucc(m): 7:31am On Nov 01, 2015 |
I feel in everything moderation is Paramount. Wine is good but can kill. The most important thing is if your body system does not support it why not abstain? Some people can take 2 glass/bottle or whatever measure and still uphold their integrity but some would be thrown off balance just by the odour from the empty glass. 24 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 7:35am On Nov 01, 2015 |
psucc:Very true. Some people think that taking wine/alcohol (doesn't matter the quantity) is a sin though. But I don't think that's what the Bible says. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 7:36am On Nov 01, 2015 |
actoor:calling me names takes nothing out of me. I know who I am. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 7:44am On Nov 01, 2015 |
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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by iPopAlomo(m): 7:57am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Pastor... how about us... we dey down alomo like pure water... yet we stand well well... hopefully we haven't sinned...?! yeah... ![]() 36 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 8:02am On Nov 01, 2015 |
iPopAlomo: it is clear that a "little" wine is good for you. Anything done in moderation ( I mean any good thing, because wine is good) ain't bad. Take little food, good. Take a spoon too many, gluttony! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by youngsky: 8:03am On Nov 01, 2015 |
the bible says, drink and dont be drunk. follow www.twitter.com/iam_starcute to get followed back 1 Like 3 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 8:04am On Nov 01, 2015 |
youngsky:...also told Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by iPopAlomo(m): 8:24am On Nov 01, 2015 |
LEGALAide: How about cannabis... in moderation too... ![]() 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by PastorandMentor(m): 8:41am On Nov 01, 2015 |
All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up. 1 Corinthians 10:23 So the question you should ask yourself; Does it build me up or destroy me? Does it make me want lust after the opposite sex? Does it make me abuse people and disobey traffic and governed rules of the land? When you answer that question, judge yourself deep inside of you. Alcohol is a mocker. Be not drunk with wine but be filled with the spirit. God bless you. 34 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by jerinapi1: 8:41am On Nov 01, 2015 |
happy sunday 3 Likes |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Daniel058(m): 8:41am On Nov 01, 2015 |
AS of now, I don't like alchohol though JESUS CHRIST DRANK IT WHILE ON EARTH.. Jesus first miracle was changing water into wine .. Possible the type we get here from palm tree ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Ithee(m): 8:42am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by shamecurls(m): 8:42am On Nov 01, 2015 |
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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by sexaddict08(m): 8:42am On Nov 01, 2015 |
this topic must have been debated more than 1million times, una no dey tired ![]() person wey go drink go drink, that doesn't make him a sinner more than those that doesn't drink. common sense. 7 Likes |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by rawpadgin(m): 8:42am On Nov 01, 2015 |
dont know if its a sin or not but i dont see myself stopping it anytime soonn ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by otabuko(m): 8:42am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Minimal alcohol is good for your health...... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 8:43am On Nov 01, 2015 |
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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by marleyboy1991: 8:43am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Am surprised the way people makes alchohol looks nice in the society but shun canabis even though it is visible from research that canabis is the most useful plant on earth......The World Needs Weed .... So that we can all stand for our right!! 14 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 8:44am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Alright 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Owliver(m): 8:44am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Jesus turned water into wine(achoholic). Jesus used wine(achoholic) on the last supper. Jesus thought us what goes into our mouth cant make us unclean but what comes out of it. we catholics use fermented grape(little achohol) for holy communion just like Jesus did. while protestants use tonic as against the instruction of Jesus to use wine. Proud catholica ![]() *edited 26 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 8:44am On Nov 01, 2015 |
iPopAlomo:...not minding that your question is neither here nor there, I'll answer. Cannabis even in moderation is bad for you. Stop taking it already! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by dOnLarich: 8:45am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Alcohol, Weed , Cigar are all good 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by California30(m): 8:45am On Nov 01, 2015 |
What did Jesus turn water into ?? Malt ?? What wine is used in holy Communion ?? Fanta ?? Alcohol is used in holy Communion. Jesus told Timothy to drink alcohol. Read 1 Timothy 5:23 Ignorant people all over the world be claiming they know everything. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by California30(m): 8:45am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Marijuana is good for you. Why do you eat vegetables ?? Why do you eat fruits ?? They all contains alcohol. Just leave your paw paw, oranges, apple, guava to ferment, then eat it & see how high you will be. Ignorant people pisses me off 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Owliver(m): 8:46am On Nov 01, 2015 |
Palm wine serves one purpose = To drink. who created palm wine? God ![]() 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 8:46am On Nov 01, 2015 |
You are right, I would rather ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5 Likes |
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