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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by unclejb2(m): 10:00am On Nov 01, 2015
I thought u had relocated to Uganda. At topic, U made some point in ur article but I still fault u on certain issues. Biafra is not negotiable. Only a referendum will settle it.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 10:07am On Nov 01, 2015
philcz:
Saw a map of the proposed biafra with a part of Benue state which is in the North Central included and i laughed.
NOTE: No Biafran should nurture the hope of including any part of Benue how ever small into this biafran project or else We'll show everyone once again how we denied Usman Danfodio entry into our land years ago and how we changed the course of the civil war.. Nigeria may be a zoo but we are the lions of this zoo...
Thank you my brother.We are not part of biafra.We are just watching them with keen interest.Any attempt to include us na fire we go release for them.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by gists: 10:08am On Nov 01, 2015
wisdomguy4u:

Bros, your clueless is legendary. Who told you Nigeria was feeding biafrans ? Nigeria only through the help of britain blocked the international humanitarian agencies from bringing in food and medicine into biafra. Such action amount to war crime dunce. Gowon is a war criminal
Its not your fault. According to the guys I was referring to, if Awolowo had poisoned those foods instead of the blockade, maybe you will know the truth. Here is what Awolowo himself said on the issue:
I saw the kwashiorkor victims.
If you see a kwashiorkor victim, you’ll never like war to be waged. Terrible sight in Enugu and Port Harcourt. [b]Then I enquired what happened to the food we were sending to the civilians. We were sending food through The Red Cross and Caritas to the civilians in Biafra, but what happen was that, the vehicle carrying the food would then be taken to the soldiers to feed them and so they were able to continue to fight. And I said that was a very dangerous policy;we didn’t intend the food for the soldiers, but who will go behind the line to stop the soldiers from ambushing the vehicles that were carrying the food? And as long as soldiers were feed, the war will continue and who’ll continue to suffer? (The Civilian masses that were already suffering and having kwashiorkor I suppose).And those who didn’t go to the place to see things as I did, you remember that all the big guns, all the soldiers in the Biafran army looked all well fed after the war, it’s only the masses of the people that suffered kwashiorkor. You won’t hear of a single lawyer, single doctor or single architect who suffered from kwashiorkor, none of their children either, so, they waylaid the foods, they ambush the vehicles taking foods to the civilians and took the food to their friends and their collaborators and their children and the masses were suffering. So I decided to stop sending the food there. In the process, the civilians would suffer, but the soldiers will suffer most and the war would end quickly.-Chief Obafemi Awolowo.(PUNCH October 8, 2012) [/b] Source: http://saharareporters.com/2012/11/29/war-against-biafra-abdulrazaq-o-hamzat

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 10:13am On Nov 01, 2015
EternalTruths:



Indigenous Igboland carved into Benue will partake in the referendum



You guys are free to remain slaves in Nigeria grin
We are not part of the so call biafra.Any attempt to include us ,we go give una real fire like never before.
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 10:13am On Nov 01, 2015
Ogbeche10:
Thank you my brother.We are not part of biafra.We are just watching them with keen interest.Any attempt to include us na fire we go release for them.

Lol. You're not wanted in Biafra. Let's remain neighbors, only.

Read this if you can:
http://sunnewsonline.com/new/weve-abandoned-igbos-benue-cry/

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by cocoduck: 10:20am On Nov 01, 2015
FrankAba1:


Lol. You're not wanted in Biafra. Let's remain neighbors, only.

Read this if you can:
http://sunnewsonline.com/new/weve-abandoned-igbos-benue-cry/
here it is
There are over one million of them spread across four local government areas of Benue State. You can find them in Ado, Oju, Okpoku and Obi, all in Benue State. They are ethnic Igbos. Before the Nigerian civil war, they lived a happy and meaningful life, mingling freely with their kith and kin in the state. But today, things have fallen apart. Instead of the joyful songs, they were used to, they now sing dirges.

The Benue Igbos who are called by the name Umuezeokoha are not happy that they have been neglected for a long time now by successive governments, federal, state or local, and they are blaming this on their ethnic origin and the fact that they are in the wrong state. Interestingly, the people share the same Benue South Senatorial Constituency with Senate President, David Mark. Though Igbos , the Umuezeokoha Community, due perhaps to accident of history, are found in Benue State instead of Ebonyi State , being the closest Igbo state where their kinsmen, the Ezza Ezekuna kindred are found.

According to the President, Benue Igbo Union, Mr. Nweke Cedrick Ifeanyi, his people are wallowing in poverty and neglect and are often denied democracy dividends, including obtaining local government identification letters for employment in and outside the state.

Historical background of Igbos in Benue

Mr. Nweke said the Igbos in Benue State, particularly those in Ado, Oju, Okpoku and Obi Local Government Areas were in existence before the advent of Christianity in Nigeria. But since then, he lamented, they have not been recognized by successive governments both at the state and federal levels in both Ebonyi and Benue states.

“Although before the independence and the Nigerian civil war, which lasted for about three years, we used to experience government attention to the extent that the missionaries then established one local primary school at Umuezeokoha community which comprises over 300 villages of Igbo speaking areas that time. The school was generally accepted by our elders then and we did witness medical attention.

“But since after the civil war, we in the entire 300 Igbo-speaking villages in Benue State have been dumped by the Nigerian government. It is worse for those in Benue South Senatorial District. We have never experienced any government attention, let alone a project from the local, state and federal governments up till date.”

The Igbo Union President also disclosed that a place with a population of over one million people has no designated political ward, no councillorship representative at the local government level nor at the state government level despite their voting population. He said even Senator David Mark and Governor Gabriel Suswan have been winning all their elections in the area.

Mr. Nweke also narrated how their children die in their large numbers because of lack of immunization, which he said they have never witnessed since the return of democracy. He also painted a gory picture of how they were swindled of N6,000 each for insecticide treated mosquito nets, which were given free to neighbouring communities by the federal government.

“We are lacking so many things, including a health centre, political ward, good roads, good water, electricity. There is no salary earner in our place to the extent that the mosquito treated insecticide nets given freely by the federal government was sold to us at the rate of N6,000 each, some even paid without claiming it till date,” Nweke said.

“All our roads are narrow; we do not have any motorable road in our area at all, last time when we visited the local government chairmen and complained about the issue of selling mosquito nets to us, what they said was that the era of mosquito nets had come and gone. This attracted exchange of gazes, and the question weather we are still a part of this country. Imagine as we are in this dry season, we hardly see water to drink, wash and cook, talk less of taking bath. Before we see water to do something, one has to trek up to 30 kilometres to a place where there is an unpurified dam water, but in this place, you must queue up in a line before it will get to your turn,” he said.

Another member of the community, Chief John Nwali also narrated the ordeal of the people in the hands of successive governments in the state, adding, “sometimes we do lament whether we are different from other human beings created by God. Some of them that claim to be natives of the state mock us by telling us to wait to benefit from government only when the Biafran nation which we fought for comes into reality.”

“At times we nurse the idea of belonging to another country. In fact, if we are close to another country, we could have declared our intention to become their citizens, but this one we are in the midst of Nigeria, we speak Nigerian language, practice Nigerian culture and religion, in every election we vote and still we are treated with great scorn and neglect as if we are not existing. Yet, we have somebody like the Senate President, living in Abuja with our mandate.

“Even in the last 2011 general election, I was the PDP Campaign Coordinator for Benue Igbo branch, but since that time till now, we are still in the same condition. We have been regarded as slaves in the country of our own. Even the only primary school that was built by the missionary before Independence is no more attracting government attention. The school is now in a sorry state. The only secondary school we have as of now is one at Saint Charles Catholic Church at Apa Ogbozu community, which was initiated by one Reverend Father.”

“We do not have anybody in the Benue State Government cabinet both in the local, state and in federal levels. We are all confused on what to do and where to go because we do not know when this indefinite discrimination will come to an end because even to the extent that the local government identification letters are no more being given to us any longer as Nigerian citizens.”

Chief Nwali also said that during rainy season, their people get drowned in water and disclosed that none of the streams, rivers and lakes has any bridge and lamented that during the last flood incident, they lost almost all their farm lands and every other thing they had laboured for.

“The political oppression which we have been subjected to is very serious. Even one of the biggest rivers we have has not attracted government attention, just to build a bridge across it. Last year, more than 20 people died while trying to cross the river for their normal daily business. We have made so many efforts to visit our Governor, Gabriel Suswan and our Senator, David Mark, to table our problem before them, but all to no avail.”

An octogenarian, Pa Nwankwo Alo said: “Our children have not been immunized over the years, let alone polio eradication programme. Our women do not even know what is hospital when they are pregnant because there are no hospitals to attend and yet we have up to 32 polling units. We have even called for more polling units because we are more than the present one but the government refused even as this national confab draws nearer, there is nobody to speak for us.”

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 10:34am On Nov 01, 2015
FrankAba1:


Lol. You're not wanted in Biafra. Let's remain neighbors, only.

Read this if you can:
http://sunnewsonline.com/new/weve-abandoned-igbos-benue-cry/
I dont care about the content.What am trying to say is that we are not part of biafra and will have nothing to do with those that propose to split Nigeria or either secede from Nigeria.We believe in Nigeria and one Nigeria.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by cocoduck: 10:39am On Nov 01, 2015
Ogbeche10:
I dont care about the content.What am trying to say is that we are not part of biafra and will have nothing to do with those that propose to split Nigeria or either secede from Nigeria.We believe in Nigeria and one Nigeria.
touche
ouch it hurts cheesy

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 10:43am On Nov 01, 2015
Ogbeche10:
I dont care about the content.What am trying to say is that we are not part of biafra and will have nothing to do with those that propose to split Nigeria or either secede from Nigeria.We believe in Nigeria and one Nigeria.

Lol. Trying too hard to hang unto your slave name(Nigerian), are we? grin

Good luck then, cos you will need it.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by IPOB123london: 3:07pm On Nov 01, 2015
To all real Biafrans out there that reason like a human as u and i know most Black people reason like Either a monkey or baboon.

The fact that most of these people that talked about Biafra Even in their sleep tell u which state should join Biafra should be of concern to us.

Now the op being who they always are asked fg to sit Nnamdi down and have a chat but they turn around telling us we are land locked?

May i say that is a typical zoo mentality that should never be allowed in Biafra

For a shocker Lagos might be Our Falkland when Biafra comes

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by EternalTruths: 5:34pm On Nov 01, 2015
Ogbeche10:
We are not part of the so call biafra.Any attempt to include us ,we go give una real fire like never before.


I said Igbo community in Benue and not your enslaved tribesmen cool

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by laudate: 4:22am On Nov 02, 2015
cramjones:
The biafran people where massacred, raped and sodomized by the Nigerian forces. The government of Yakubu Gowon created an embargo and prevented food and essentials medicines from reaching the people of Biafra, thereby leading to the death of over a million people. Recall that the jews all over the world still remember the massacre of 6 million jews, but the Nigerian state have chosen to ignore such despicable genocide against the Biafran people. General Yakubu Gowon should be a war criminal facing trial at the ICC, but today he is being celebrated.

For those of you that have never experienced war, you will never know that peace is the greatest gift you can ever have. There is no Nairalanding or facebooking at the time of war, what you see is death, rape, disease and hunger! It is horrible! We must find a peaceful way of resolving the issue of Biafra. War is should never be an option.

-CramJones

Are you sure you are not FFK? 'Cos you write like him - same style. Anyway, no one is asking the Biafrans NOT to leave. They should just do it peacefully. Is that too much to ask?? shocked All the hate-speech and threats of war they are tossing around, is just making non-Igbo folks show contempt towards their Biafran ideology.
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by IPOB123london: 5:16am On Nov 02, 2015
Hey nothing like hate speech. We are freedom fighters . So far buhari Boys shot our women, and are arresting our people.

So remember we have the right to defend ourselves

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Candyrain(m): 5:42am On Nov 02, 2015
Hey bro I've heard you say a couple of times that there ain't Igbos in Benue State. Could you pls check the 5th post above yours there's a post by Frank Aba1 with a link on some Benue people. I'll like to know who they are pls. Thank you.

laudate:


Are you sure you are not FFK? 'Cos you write like him - same style. Anyway, no one is asking the Biafrans NOT to leave. They should just do it peacefully. Is that too much to ask?? shocked All the hate-speech and threats of war they are tossing around, is just making non-Igbo folks show contempt towards their Biafran ideology.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:20am On Nov 02, 2015
Brilliant piece. Very interesting piece and those trying to make it look like an outsider of the Biafran sector has nothing to say should rethink. If a war breaks out in the Biafran region, a lot of Igbos will want to find refuge in the Western part of Nigeria.

Cramjones, I do not regret following you. Please, continue writing with the focus on Nation building. You can become a blessing to this genaration.

CC: Ishilove, lalasticalal, Obinoscopy
Please, this is front page worthy. The Nigerian youths need to discuss a growing problem in the Nation.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by kingzizzy: 7:09am On Nov 02, 2015
gists:
I just don't get it when people play the victim card on the number of people that died in the inglorious civil war. I don't care about the number be it 500k, 1m, 3m or even 10m! Afterall, it was a war and the biafra soldiers were not saying the lords prayers - they were busy killing Nigerians too.

For some reasons, I took a public transport some weeks ago I heard some guys discussing (they were both ibos). One of them ask the other "how on earth do you fight with someone that feeds you?" According to him, although Awolowo was wrong for the so-called starvation policy, but should be commended for ending the war sooner because he (Awo) could have chosen to poison the foods and kill millions more instead of the blockade.

I never thought of it that way before but it rang through to me. You can't pick up a fight with your boss and later turn around complaining that he sacks you! His point was that the ibos started a war that they were not prepared for and now complaining of the consequence - fighting someone that feed you and later complain of not giving you food.

Having said that the truth is that everybody has a GOD given right to call for self-determination. BUT it must be through peaceful means. Otherwise history is notorious of having a way to repeat itself. A friend showed me a video on a questions and answer summit by some Igbo group with Mr Kanu. It was shocking to see how unprepaired the guy is as he couldn't give convincing answers to some of the questions asked.

Any group is free to ask for independence but it has to be peaceful without insult to others especially those who they think should follow them.


This flawed thinking of yours is why black Africa never moves forward. Igbos never started any war, it was your Nigeria that brought war to the east. You said in your write up that people have a right to self determination. Well, Ojukwu asked the people of eastern Nigeria what they wanted and they told him they wanted their sovereignty. Ojukwu then declared them a free people under the banner of Biafra. Ojukwu was one of those rare African leaders who did what his people asked of him. It was Nigeria, a mere British colonial constuct, that brought war down to the east in the name of 'one Nigeria'. So please, you and others like you should stop saying Igbos started war when it was Nigeria that came shooting first. I regard anything that can kill people in their millions as truly evil entity. Nigeria has done this in the past during Biafran war, and will probably do it again if Biafra is declared again. That is why it is time to do away with this British fabrication called Nigeria, it has lasted past its shelf life. Nigeria is an evil entity.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by DrownedFish: 7:50am On Nov 02, 2015
LordMecuzy:
cramjones writeup I think deserves front page....


Proudly Imo
Fucck your mouth up, you are not from Imo state. Bloody liar.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by kingzizzy: 8:15am On Nov 02, 2015
OP, you reasons for saying Biafra is not viable are so funny, I felt like hanging myself out of laughter. You believe that corruption will kill Biafra? Has the massively corrupt entity called Nigeria been killed by corruption? You said that the minorities will not want be part of Biafra because the will be minorities in Biafra? Please don't make me laugh. A Niger- Delta man has the three majorities of Yoruba/Igbo/Hausa-Fulani on his head but you are trying to say this is better than having just Igbos? It is better to have three masters than one? How can any of the minorities be even more 'minor' in Biafra than they already are in Nigeria? 80% of the resources of the Niger-Delta people is reportedly in hands of the Northerners but you think the Niger-Deltans have a better deal in Nigeria than they could have in Biafra? Who are the people who just kicked a Niger-Delta president out of office? Who stood by the Niger-Delta people in the last elections? You people really make me laugh

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by LordMecuzy(m): 8:49am On Nov 02, 2015
DrownedFish:
Fucck your mouth up, you are not from Imo state. Bloody liar.

K
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by IPOB123london: 10:34am On Nov 02, 2015
Useless thread
when Biafra comes
izon will run their show
alaigbo will run their show
Efik etc
there will be nothing like minority
by the way the poster is a typical yoruba im afraid.

In one of his writings he decried the country called Nijeyria created by lugard.we all know the op start to speak out since he started to listen to rádio Biafra

Then since u agree Nijeyria is fraud what does nigger delta mean and who created it

And u actually believe in your right sense i go better

My goodness me

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by laudate: 11:07am On Nov 02, 2015
IPOB123london:
Useless thread
when Biafra comes
izon will run their show
alaigbo will run their show
Efik etc
there will be nothing like minority
by the way the poster is a typical yoruba im afraid.

In one of his writings he decried the country called Nijeyria created by lugard.we all know the op start to speak out since he started to listen to rádio Biafra

Then since u agree Nijeyria is fraud what does nigger delta mean and who created it

And u actually believe in your right sense i go better

My goodness me

Whenever someone does not agree with you, in your view he must automatically be Yoruba. What was the name of the school you attended, again??

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by laudate: 11:22am On Nov 02, 2015
gists:

Its not your fault. According to the guys I was referring to, if Awolowo had poisoned those foods instead of the blockade, maybe you will know the truth. Here is what Awolowo himself said on the issue:

Guy, don't waste your time. They know the truth, but would never admit it. It suits them to blame everyone else for their woes, while absolving themselves of any responsibility. Ok, how come the Biafran soldiers and military high command never suffered from kwashiorkor during the war?? How come they declined the use of a land corridor to allow the entry of food into Biafra during the war?? How come they did not test the food for poison in Biafra, after letting it in to show the world if such food was poisoned or not, before rejecting the offer? It is all propaganda, my friend. And these guys are masters at it.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by demmy(m): 11:25am On Nov 02, 2015
cramjones:
I have keenly observed the current events that have led to the arrest of Nnamdi Kanu, the self-proclaimed leader of the Biafran movement. I have mixed reactions to the events that have transpired and have communicated my thoughts to the Nigerian Presidency. I will attempt elucidating my thoughts here.

1. I am of the opinion that the call for Biafra is legitimate: Firstly, Biafra existed before Nigeria was created. It was made up of people with similar cultures and language (with majority tribe being Igbo). It is perfectly legitimate for the original inhabitants of the country to yearn to have back their country and resources under their control. However, I do not believe that Biafra is a viable solution at this time.

2. During the Biafran war it is estimated that at least 1 million people of largely Igbo extraction were killed! This is no doubt in mind a genocide. However, the Nigerian government has made a fundamental mistake by:

a. Not recognizing it ever took place, or playing down the number of those that died for political reasons, only serve to fuel violence and the call for secession.
b. They have also made a major mistake by not even having a memorial day to remember those that died during the genocide - This action alone will give a sense of belonging and would foster a deepened National unity.

3. If the government does not look into the creation of a true federation whilst implementing its pseudo-federalism, and pretend that a genocide never took place, then the dissolution of Nigeria or even the metastasis of the Biafrian movement becomes inevitable.

4. Despite the premise I have laid out, I still do not think a Biafran state is viable. This is why

i. The Eastern Goverments are fundamentally corrupt; A visit to present day Imo and Abia will attest to the corruption and rot that have plagued the region. These leaders have all FAILED to develop the east with the resources given to them. If they had made the East the "dubai" of Nigeria, everyone including the international community would have taken the cry for Biafra serious. The argument would be if the "Biafran leaders" can develop their region with the "little" resources given them, it is only fair they secede and do even more for their people and their region. However, this is not the case. A Biafran state will only lead to another mini civil war, and a fight for resources and wealth among Biafrans.

ii. Since 1970 when the war ended the geo-political dynamics of the Biafran region has changed. For example the people of Rivers would not want to be part of a country where their individual tribes become a minority. Same will go to Akwa Ibom etc. This will then lead to a disintegration of the original Biafran state, and would lead to a battle for resource control.

iii. If the above happens, Biafra would essentially be a landlocked country, and this can lead to an invasion and fight of Rivers, in order to fight for port control, oil revenue etc. Igbos will definitely need the ports since most of them are international business men, and won't afford to pay regions like Rivers for all the billions of dollars of imports that takes place in the region.

In summary, an eventual Biafran state through a peaceful referendum will lead to a situation worse than South Sundan.

Way forward:

1. President Buhari MUST as a matter of urgency look into the white paper of the national conference and work assidiously with congress to make sure he implements true Federalism.

2. We must as a matter of urgency accept that at least 1 million Igbos where killed and establish a day to remember these precious lives that were gone. We must go a step further to make sure we teach this history to our kids, and not ban it from being tought in schools.

3. If the Federal government treat the Biafra issue with kids gloves, we may have something worse than Boko Haram in our hands.

4. Release Nnamdi Kanu immediately! Sit down with him and lay out your plans to resolve this issue. It would be a disservice to the Igbo people to compare the rise of Boko Haram with this present agitation, but history has thought us that as dynamic and complex Nigeria is, we MUST as a matter of urgency address the agitation of the Biafrans, before it metastasize to a problem bigger than Nigeria. A stitch in time saves nine!

Personally, I have shared these thougths to my friend and brother Femi Adeshina with the hope that he would communicate this to P.M.B.

It is my hope that this does not destroy our country in our very eyes.

-CramJones


CC: Ishilove, lalasticalal, Obinoscopy

Wrong.
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by laudate: 11:29am On Nov 02, 2015
gists:
I just don't get it when people play the victim card on the number of people that died in the inglorious civil war. I don't care about the number be it 500k, 1m, 3m or even 10m! Afterall, it was a war and the biafra soldiers were not saying the lords prayers - they were busy killing Nigerians too.

For some reasons, I took a public transport some weeks ago I heard some guys discussing (they were both ibos). One of them ask the other "how on earth do you fight with someone that feeds you?" According to him, although Awolowo was wrong for the so-called starvation policy, but should be commended for ending the war sooner because he (Awo) could have chosen to poison the foods and kill millions more instead of the blockade.

I never thought of it that way before but it rang through to me. You can't pick up a fight with your boss and later turn around complaining that he sacks you! His point was that the ibos started a war that they were not prepared for and now complaining of the consequence - fighting someone that feed you and later complain of not giving you food.

Having said that the truth is that everybody has a GOD given right to call for self-determination. BUT it must be through peaceful means. Otherwise history is notorious of having a way to repeat itself. A friend showed me a video on a questions and answer summit by some Igbo group with Mr Kanu. It was shocking to see how unprepaired the guy is as he couldn't give convincing answers to some of the questions asked.

Any group is free to ask for independence but it has to be peaceful without insult to others especially those who they think should follow them.

With reference to the parts in bold type..... Guy, remind me to give an award to the school you attended, and the family that raised you. They did a fantastic job. May God continue to bless you and uphold them. Peace!

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Candyrain(m): 12:11pm On Nov 02, 2015
Bros I'm really surprised you ignored what I pointed to you. An honourable man would have just admitted he's wrong and apologise for wrongly misleading people. I'll assume your silence means you've accepted that you are wrong but not man enough to own up. You come across to me as someone enlightened so I'll advise you do a research on something before taking a position. Have a good day bro

laudate:


With reference to the parts in bold type..... Guy, remind me to give an award to the school you attended, and the family that raised you. They did a fantastic job. May God continue to bless you and uphold them. Peace!

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by laudate: 12:28pm On Nov 02, 2015
Candyrain:
Bros I'm really surprised you ignored what I pointed to you. An honourable man would have just admitted he's wrong and apologise for wrongly misleading people. I'll assume your silence means you've accepted that you are wrong but not man enough to own up. You come across to me as someone enlightened so I'll advise you do a research on something before taking a position. Have a good day bro

Guy, I do not understand what point you are trying to make. sad Another poster FrankAba1 said that there were Igbos in Benue State. Did I dispute it anywhere inside this entire thread?? Instead of asking him to clarify his statement or seeking further information from him, you are saying that I should confirm why I said there are no Igbo in Benue State. I have checked through this particular thread from beginning to end, and I cannot see where I made that remark. Why should I be the one to tell you who the Igbo people in Benue State, are?? Do I look Igbo to you??

Please what exactly are you trying to prove?? Or should I remind you of your earlier question??
Candyrain:
Hey bro I've heard you say a couple of times that there ain't Igbos in Benue State. Could you pls check the 5th post above yours there's a post by Frank Aba1 with a link on some Benue people. I'll like to know who they are pls. Thank you.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 10:39am On Nov 03, 2015
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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Funjosh(m): 10:41am On Nov 03, 2015
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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by miqos02(m): 10:46am On Nov 03, 2015
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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by humilitypays(m): 10:47am On Nov 03, 2015
cramjones:
I have keenly observed the current events that have led to the arrest of Nnamdi Kanu, the self-proclaimed leader of the Biafran movement. I have mixed reactions to the events that have transpired and have communicated my thoughts to the Nigerian Presidency. I will attempt elucidating my thoughts here.

1. I am of the opinion that the call for Biafra is legitimate: Firstly, Biafra existed before Nigeria was created. It was made up of people with similar cultures and language (with majority tribe being Igbo). It is perfectly legitimate for the original inhabitants of the country to yearn to have back their country and resources under their control. However, I do not believe that Biafra is a viable solution at this time.

2. During the Biafran war it is estimated that at least 1 million people of largely Igbo extraction were killed! This is no doubt in mind a genocide. However, the Nigerian government has made a fundamental mistake by:

a. Not recognizing it ever took place, or playing down the number of those that died for political reasons, only serve to fuel violence and the call for secession.
b. They have also made a major mistake by not even having a memorial day to remember those that died during the genocide - This action alone will give a sense of belonging and would foster a deepened National unity.

3. If the government does not look into the creation of a true federation whilst implementing its pseudo-federalism, and pretend that a genocide never took place, then the dissolution of Nigeria or even the metastasis of the Biafrian movement becomes inevitable.

4. Despite the premise I have laid out, I still do not think a Biafran state is viable. This is why

i. The Eastern Goverments are fundamentally corrupt; A visit to present day Imo and Abia will attest to the corruption and rot that have plagued the region. These leaders have all FAILED to develop the east with the resources given to them. If they had made the East the "dubai" of Nigeria, everyone including the international community would have taken the cry for Biafra serious. The argument would be if the "Biafran leaders" can develop their region with the "little" resources given them, it is only fair they secede and do even more for their people and their region. However, this is not the case. A Biafran state will only lead to another mini civil war, and a fight for resources and wealth among Biafrans.

ii. Since 1970 when the war ended the geo-political dynamics of the Biafran region has changed. For example the people of Rivers would not want to be part of a country where their individual tribes become a minority. Same will go to Akwa Ibom etc. This will then lead to a disintegration of the original Biafran state, and would lead to a battle for resource control.

iii. If the above happens, Biafra would essentially be a landlocked country, and this can lead to an invasion and fight of Rivers, in order to fight for port control, oil revenue etc. Igbos will definitely need the ports since most of them are international business men, and won't afford to pay regions like Rivers for all the billions of dollars of imports that takes place in the region.

In summary, an eventual Biafran state through a peaceful referendum will lead to a situation worse than South Sundan.

Way forward:

1. President Buhari MUST as a matter of urgency look into the white paper of the national conference and work assidiously with congress to make sure he implements true Federalism.

2. We must as a matter of urgency accept that at least 1 million Igbos where killed and establish a day to remember these precious lives that were gone. We must go a step further to make sure we teach this history to our kids, and not ban it from being tought in schools.

3. If the Federal government treat the Biafra issue with kids gloves, we may have something worse than Boko Haram in our hands.

4. Release Nnamdi Kanu immediately! Sit down with him and lay out your plans to resolve this issue. It would be a disservice to the Igbo people to compare the rise of Boko Haram with this present agitation, but history has thought us that as dynamic and complex Nigeria is, we MUST as a matter of urgency address the agitation of the Biafrans, before it metastasize to a problem bigger than Nigeria. A stitch in time saves nine!

Personally, I have shared these thougths to my friend and brother Femi Adeshina with the hope that he would communicate this to P.M.B.

It is my hope that this does not destroy our country in our very eyes.

-CramJones


CC: Ishilove, lalasticalal, Obinoscopy
Very objective....nicely written without being biased. If only the so-called president would listen...I doubt he will, so the trouble continues.

To many, Biafra maybe a joke of which yes...it may look unrealistic, but the disintegration of Nigeria can only be delayed, prolonged via this kind of government attitude, but definitely it will come if nothing is done as outlined in this insightful article.

Once again, well done smiley

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Rilwayne001: 10:50am On Nov 03, 2015
Holyman3:
Your gorilla OBJ frustrated this country for nearly a decad
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