SIRTee15:

all the above u mentioned are spirits.
stay away from them as much as possible.
any drink with alcoholic content greater than 20% must have been distilled and is not a wine.
they offer no health benefit.

thumbs up!

Check out my signature @LEGAL Aide

MODERATION is very important in ANYTHING we do in life.

chuna1985:



Did I say weed is a cure for cancer

therefore I'll be right to conclude that weed has no benefit contrary to what you said early on.

I enjoyed reading this no matter how long. If u r a pastor I know I will enjoy ur sermons. Many men of God don't research before preaching, forgetting dat d Bible was not originally written in English, hence the different views from many men of God.

Secondly, the term moderation varries. What is moderate to me may not be to you. If I can take ten bottles and still be sober, have I sinned?

LEGALAide:

people like you I call sanctimonious.
You said: "Do not get drunk with wine", that's what I'm talking about already so don't get choked up.
To drink is different from getting drunk.
If you have a dictionary Check the meaning of "crave".
So in conclusion, drinking ain't bad, getting drunk is.

I never said drinking is bad. I just echoed what bible says about it. Drinking is not meant for kings, princes and noble men. The concept os sin is another thing. It doesn't meant I judge people that drink. I don't.

LEGALAide:

therefore I'll be right to conclude that weed has no benefit contrary to what you said early on.

Why ask long baseless questions

What I wrote is clear English language. Needs to further explanations.

PAQ:
I enjoyed reading this no matter how long. If u r a pastor I know I will enjoy ur sermons. Many men of God don't research before preaching, forgetting dat d Bible was not originally written in English, hence the different views from many men of God.

Secondly, the term moderation varries. What is moderate to me may not be to you. If I can take ten bottles and still be sober, have I sinned?

No. Not at all.

tolustx:
I never said drinking is bad. I just echoed what bible says about it. Drinking is not meant for kings, princes and noble men. The concept os sin is another thing. It doesn't meant I judge people that drink. I don't.

Issorite

chuna1985:




Why ask long baseless questions

What I wrote is clear English language. Needs no further explanations.

Yimu.
Perhap you've seen how shallow your philosophy about weed is.
Not after a series of cross-examination.

California30:
What did Jesus turn water into ??
Malt ??

What wine is used in holy Communion ??
Fanta ??

Alcohol is used in holy Communion.
Jesus told Timothy to drink alcohol.
Read 1 Timothy 5:23
Ignorant people all over the world be claiming they know everything.

it wasn't Jesus that told Timothy to take wine it was Paul

LEGALAide:

Yimu.
Perhap you've seen how shallow your philosophy about weed is.
Not after a series of cross-examination.

If u noticed wella, u cross examined urself, I didn't answer any single question u asked. .

chuna1985:



If u noticed wella, u cross examined urself, I didn't answer any single question u asked. .

...because answering them will elicit more unfavourable facts on your side.

A chichidodo...that is...

LEGALAide:


How?
More light please?

no more light,nepa has tooked it

Nice right up?
All true Christians believe alcohol consumption in moderation is not sin but enjoyment of God's provision.
Those who oppose this view are not Christians but hypocrites.

gradeA:
Am glad you quoted Luke 1:15 in your write-up. The reason John the Baptist was forbidden from taking alcohol was because he would be filled with the Holy Spirit from birth.

Now alcohol was permitted in the dispensation of old, but we are now in the dispensation of the Holy Spirit, and it is forbidden.

Once we have the new birth in Christ, and are baptised in the Holy Ghost, we get to the stage John the Baptist was at birth and what applied to him becomes applicable to us.

Guys the conclusion remains once you are born again, and filled with the Spirit of God, you have no business with alcohol, be it a sip, gulp or total consumption.

cc; LEGALAide.

But Jesus was conceived by the holy spirit, yet he drank wine. John was a Nizareth that's why he drank no wine, no because of the reason you gave up there. Don't mislead people please. Thanks.

N o mind all these Pentecostal churches wey don baptise demselves as d only righteous people by judging and condemning every other church and pesin. It's funny how dey condemn alcohol as sin because u can get drunk from it but yet dey have failed to condemn money even though d Bible says the luv of money is d root of ALL evil... Lord's Chosen people in particular no go gree. D nxt thing dey'll tell u is "Even d devil can quote d Bible"

ministeriallist:
Nice right up?
But I disagree with your statement: "All Christians would agree drunkenness is sinful, and Christ Himself warns against it".
All true Christians rather believe alcohol consumption in moderation is not sin but enjoyment of God's provision.
Those who oppose this view are not Christians but hypocrites.

Thanks.
But honestly you didn't read the post.
Please why do you think drunkenness is not a sin?

otiigba1:
Utter Rubbish! Abi no be God create cannabis or weed too? Remember its also a plant , you people with your hypocricy and contradictions.

Hahahahaha.... your assertion is laughable. God created the atlantic ocean, why don't we all jump into it. You may know some poisonous plant too, so why don't we eat them because God created them. Everything has a purpose in God and cannabis surely is being abused by people.

IYANGBALI:
no more light,nepa has tooked it

issorite

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@OP Jesus Christ turned water to wine not palmwine...

or did your own bible specify whether it's alcoholic or not... if yes please show me

LEGALAide:

Thanks.
But honestly you didn't read the post.
Please why do you think drunkenness is not a sin?

It was mix up sorry. I mean to say consumption in moderation is not a sin. Drunkenness is a sin and the Bible is very clear about it.

flokii:
@OP Jesus Christ turned water to wine not palmwine...

or did your own bible specify whether it's alcoholic or not... if yes please show me

didn't you expect that I'll cringe for your show of ignorance?
You mean to say that it's only palm wine that's alcoholic?
You sure didn't read the post.
You're only entitled to comment when you've read the post.
Read again!

ministeriallist:

It was mix up sorry. I mean to say consumption in moderation is not a sin. Drunkenness is a sin and the Bible is very clear about it.

cool

LEGALAide:


it is clear that a "little" wine is good for you.
Anything done in moderation ( I mean any good thing, because wine is good) ain't bad.
Take little food, good.
Take a spoon too many, gluttony!

moderation in terms of alcohol usage is relative...I may be able to down six bottles of harp and not feel anything while another may be drunk just from inhaling the flavor of beer.

socialist:
moderation in terms of alcohol usage is relative...I may be able to down six bottles of harp and not feel anything while another may be drunk just from inhaling the flavor of beer.

exactly!
I can't agree more.

psucc:
I feel in everything moderation is Paramount.

Wine is good but can kill. The most important thing is if your body system does not support it why not abstain? Some people can take 2 glass/bottle or whatever measure and still uphold their integrity but some would be thrown off balance just by the odour from the empty glass.

ur concluding part is funny

PastorandMentor:
All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up. 1 Corinthians 10:23

So the question you should ask yourself; Does it build me up or destroy me?
Does it make me want lust after the opposite sex? Does it make me abuse people and disobey traffic and governed rules of the land? When you answer that question, judge yourself deep inside of you. Alcohol is a mocker. Be not drunk with wine but be filled with the spirit. God bless you.

u are leaning unto generalisation....for ur info, some people drink and can hold it down. Not everybody that drinks always display all what u are describing up there...although some people tho...no doubt. So in conclusion, let everyman do what he thinks is right.

Ovaiegbe:


Hahahahaha.... your assertion is laughable. God created the atlantic ocean, why don't we all jump into it. You may know some poisonous plant too, so why don't we eat them because God created them. Everything has a purpose in God and cannabis surely is being abused by people.

. Loool, very apt response. But that don't mean I wont smoke weed anytime I can lay my hands on it sha ooo.

I am a king. Wine and strong drink is not for me.
I am a Nazareth. Wine and strong drink is not for me.
I am filled with Holy Spirit . No space for wine nor SD.
I am wise. Wine and strong drink can't deceive me.

Above all. I don't joke with my eternity. Since wine and strong drinks were not clearly stated in the law, I decided to stop the intake because it can't be compared to life eternal.

Remember : what shall a man give in exchange for his soul. I take everything into consideration. I don't listen to what any man or woman may say not even Pope or my GO. That is my decision. I will stop anything that may stop me.