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Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by tartar9(m): 2:05pm On Nov 01, 2015 |
like youve supported them through the pogroms and holocaust,support them and youll be the onez to fight them later on like youve always done.jewish butt lickers! only a flathèad will create such an article. |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 2:40pm On Nov 01, 2015 |
tartar9: Ur nonsense been seen and laffed at.. antisemitism is too strong in u..perhaps its the camel piss u muslims drink.. 1 Like
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Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by omonnakoda: 2:57pm On Nov 01, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: Title of your article Why Every Christian should support............... etc But first you did not say what exactly Christians should support? You need to make that clear and explicit so e.g if Israel decided to capture every Palestinian Man ,woman and child and cut off their heads is it the duty of Christians to support that. I hope not.Then ONCE AGAIN what should they support and what should they NOT SUPPORT? Let us take your submission in turns 1. Israel is the only country in the midddle east where the population of Christians is not becoming extinct you say. Really ? What is the population of Christians in Israel today and do you have any data on how this has changed or not over the last 20 years and do you also have the data for Syria and Jordan? Even if this claim were true would it be a reason to "SUPPORT ISRAEL" and once again "SUPPORT WHAT EXACTLY"? 2. Virtually all Muslim countries persecute Christians so Christians should support any country that persecutes Muslims> I think that about sums up number 2 3. The World does dot need another bigot Islamic country. So you are saying in effect Palestine should not have a country so what do you propose should happen to the Palestinians 4. HAMAS are no different from ISIS and Palestinians love HAMAS so much so they deserve the hatred of Christians .Does that capture your thinking? 5. Islamic countries force Christians to pay Jizyah and Palestine will do the same. FOr this reason they should not be allowed to have a country ? Does that capture your view? 6. Israel contributed more to Theology? How is contribution to theology measured?? 7 Islamic countries kill atheists. Really? Palestine will do the same? How do you know this? How do you know That Palestine will be an Islamic Country? Will it be more Islamic than Egypt or Jordan or Syria or Tunisia ? Can you name one atheist that has been killed in any of these countries e.g Egypt or Jordan or Lebanon or Morocco? 8 Mohammed swore that Jews will be driven out ? Really where did he do this? any quotes. What does that have to do with Christians? 9. Israeli government ensures Christians visit holy site? Will supporting Palestine ensure that Israel can no longer perform this function? 10 Israelites/ jews have only one homeland which is israel..a tiny desert land they have built up for decades while muslims are everywhere producing refugees for the west to feed.. SO supporting Israel will reduce the number of refugees that Muslims produce? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by Nobody: 4:01pm On Nov 01, 2015 |
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Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 5:02pm On Nov 01, 2015 |
omonnakoda: The title of my article its fully stated..Israel must be supported by every right thinking non muslim..
Ok.. christians should support the state of israel and every legitimate attempt by the IDF,the govt to defend Israelis, visitors and their homeland from islamic terrorists, rocket throwers, stone throwers and stabbers who commit crimes while quoting the hateful quran. See above...that wont be legitimate.. Secondly israel will never do that..they are not like the barbaric isis bh hamas taliban etc that do that..
The muslim population in the middle east has fallen from 20 percent to 5percent..see link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_the_Middle_East Israel is the only place christians to worship without persecution in the intolerant middle east
Let me quote myself again Ok.. christians should support the state of israel and every legitimate attempt by the IDF,the govt to defend Israelis, visitors and their homeland from islamic terrorists, rocket throwers, stone throwers and stabbers who commit crimes while quoting the hateful quran.
U are setting up a false premise... muslims hate a deep hatred for jews which originates from the quran.. I used to be in support of a two state solution but I have changed my mind... the world doesnt need another intolerant islamist nation.. there are over 49 islamic nations they can move to...with the exception of the failed or failing ones..israel has only one nation. Wow.. u dont know any thing about christianity apparently.. We dont hate Palestinans.. dont forget a lot of christians send aid to Palestinian refugee camps.. That and many other reasons.. The same way contributions to all spheres of humanity is measured.. israel has done more that Christians even when u measure contributions per capita.. muslims have done next to nothing.. there are several statistics with good indices avaliable on line.. [/quote]
Go online and read up.. I have no time to educate on this..
Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.” Qur'an (9:29)-"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book(Christains and JEWS), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." I will get u the hadith verse where he cursed the Jews as soon as I can find it
It will ensure Israel maintains it territory without a very closeby state of Palestine causing problems.
Most likely. Palestinian will likely fail as a state and fall into a civil war if it is granted statehood. Middle east Muslims are too sectarian. |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 11:13am On Nov 03, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Still waiting for ur al taqiyya filled response to my reply to ur questions |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by omonnakoda: 11:26am On Nov 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:I do not know what al taqqiya is, presumably it is some Arabic or Islamic thing.Neither applies to me. I had some doubts initially but your responses confirmed to me that you are a halfwit and that is why I chose to ignore you because if I engage you further people might not be able to tell the difference. There is no prospect of profitable (from my perspective) intellectual commerce engaging you as you are totally bereft of any semblance of sense |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by miqos02(m): 11:29am On Nov 03, 2015 |
@op, i am a christian, but isral is not doing itself anygood |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 11:34am On Nov 03, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Loool..I was expecting this.. When muslims like u are faced with a "kaffir" who is well informed on the quran and muslim trickery ...u then turn to insults...lol.. I am done with u.. go hit ur head on the floor 5 times a day with hate in ur heart for jews if it pleases u.. its ur cup of tea.. |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by omonnakoda: 11:41am On Nov 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:Well I am not a Muslim ,I am sure any true Muslim will not deny that. Do you have anything else to offer? |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 11:45am On Nov 03, 2015 |
miqos02: Do u know how difficult it is to deal with terrorists..muslim terrorists for that matter.. The nigerian army has tortured hundreds of northern youths in the name of fighting boko haram according to facts by amnesty international.. have u heard muslims or nigerians as a whole come out to complain pr protest....but israel choses to defend itself even as hamas uses civilians as human shield then muslims and even Christians condemn israel.. Dont listen to propaganda by the muslims , al jeezera and even cnn(which makes millions from arab advertising sales).. go to blogs and local stations websites and exmuslim sites to get raw information on the middle east crisis.. Do u know isis now straps women to roof tops to prevent Russian airstrikes.. which mainstream media has carried this information,?? There is a lot being covered up to protect moderate muslims |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by Nobody: 11:48am On Nov 03, 2015 |
Lowlife Africans slaving over religion since 1821 |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 11:50am On Nov 03, 2015 |
omonnakoda: I doubt that.. u try to defend islam and Palestinian terrorism like many bigot closeminded muslims here with weak arguments and u definitely insult like them...enjoy ur day. We have nothing else to discuss. |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by miqos02(m): 11:51am On Nov 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: where was isis, al queda,boko haram before us/uk with the support of Israel invaded iraq? |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by omonnakoda: 11:52am On Nov 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:So your mother insists I must be a Muslim? You better look well before you start any nonsense? Has her cancer spread to her brain? Definitely her epilepsy will drop her in front of a truck and she will perish like a dog |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 11:54am On Nov 03, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Lol.. insults mean nothing.. I personally dont use it...it only shows how crude u are.. I wish u well.. dont get to frustrated with urself |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by omonnakoda: 11:54am On Nov 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:I. wish your mother perishes like a dog |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 12:10pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
miqos02: Isis is new same with boko haram.. al queda had been around for over a decade before the invasion..that was why they had the man power to destory the twin towers...so was the Taliban and many other terrorist organizations.. U are getting to know more about islamic terrorism because of better and more avaliable satellite Tv stations, internet , camera phones, social media.. islam has always waged jihad. |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 12:13pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Lol.. thats how alot of muslims here defend their prophet and islamic terrorists.. I told u ,u have a lot in common with them.. u need to get urself an education and learn how to discuss in a civilized manner.. ur mother unfortunately brought u up poorly.. |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by miqos02(m): 12:17pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:yeah you are right, but their activities were limited until the iraq war that ousted and killed saddam hussein. am i right? |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 12:29pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
miqos02: Not al of Islamist groups.. but U are right,isis is a different kind of beast.. they have succeeded in committing genocide agaisnt arab christians, yadizis and Kurds(whose version of islam they dont agree with)...they dont even hesitate to kill a fellow muslim. Before the crusades , during the jihads ,muslims massacred christians and jews in a similar manner with the exception of when they took Jerusalem..but spared the muslims... the muslim ottoman empire in the 1900s committed similar acts of genocides agaisnt non Muslims especially the Armenians.. and would have done thw same to the jews in the 1940s and 1960s if not for jewish tenacity and will power to survive... a study of the history of muslim jihad will show u that these crimes have been going on for centuries.. |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by miqos02(m): 12:42pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: do you know jewish extremism is now on the increase, i thing it all boils down to resoect for each other, christians, jews and muslims should stop demonising each other |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 12:49pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
miqos02: Yeah.. its sad some jews have decided to stoop to the level of the muslim Palestinians.. Respect for each other will be hard.. Muslim are told not to love nonmuslims or even call them brothers or friends.. I can show u the verses from the quran.. here is of a muslim warning his fellow muslim who called a nonmuslim nairalander brother during a discussion..he even quoted q hadith
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Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by miqos02(m): 12:51pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:please let me see the verse because non-mumslim is different from pagan |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by omonnakoda: 1:16pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:Certainly you woke up inspired by the devil today and that is why you came to my direction ,no worries , Your mother will die a painful cancerous death and will rot in a open field |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 2:23pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
omonnakoda: The blood of Jesus and his grace ensures I have nothing to worry about from evil people like you.. I wont curse u back.. ur retribution awaits u and it is coming.. Like I said before u were not properly brought up or u are from one of those terrible family backgrounds where insults and threats are a way to win arguments.. if you had any respect for your own mother you wont be here insulting mothers.. Lol.. u behave just like the Palestinian muslims u defend |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by omonnakoda: 2:24pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:Certainly you woke up inspired by the devil today and that is why you came to my direction ,no worries , Your mother will die a painful cancerous death and will rot in a open field |
Re: Israel - Palestinian Conflict: Why Every Christian Should Support Isreal by parisbookaddict(f): 2:40pm On Nov 03, 2015 |
miqos02: Here is a compilation of quran verses I have with regards to the topic... U can go to quran. com to verify. Read each one carefully Qur'an (5:51)-"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Qur'an (5:80)-"You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell. Qur'an (3:28)-"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that"believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly." Qur'an (3:118)-"O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand." This verse not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends. Qur'an (9:23)-"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers" Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates"slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them". Qur'an (53:29)-"Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world." Qur'an (3:85)-"And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers." Qur'an (3:10)-"(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire." Those who do not believe in Muhammad are but fuel for the fire of Hell (also 66:6, 2:24. 21:98). Qur'an (7:44)-"The Companions of the Garden will call out to the Companions of the Fire:"We have indeed found the promises of our Lord to us true: Have you also found Your Lord's promises true?"They shall say,"Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim between them:"The curse of Allah is on the wrong-doers" Muslims in heaven will amuse themselves by looking down on non-Muslims in Hell and mocking them while they are being tortured (see22:19-22. Qur'an (1:5-7)-"Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger"specifically refers to Jews and"those who go astray"refers to Christians (seeBukhari (12:749)). From the Hadith: Muslim (1:417)- Taken to mean that one's own relatives should not be taken as friends if they are not Muslim. Abu Dawud (41:4815)-"The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man follows the religion of his friend; so each one should consider whom he makes his friend." Abu Dawud (41:4832)- The Messenger of Allah [said]"Do not keep company with anyone but a believer and do not let anyone eat your food but one who is pious." Bukhari (59:572)-"O you who believe! Take not my enemies And your enemies as friends offering them (Your) love even though they have disbelieved in that Truth (i.e. Allah, Prophet Muhammad and this Quran) which has come to you." |
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