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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by CR77(f): 11:58am On Nov 03, 2015
Thank u so mush for ur comment

Ur comment made my day kiss kiss kiss
austinsmat:
point of collection It is not 1 million but three million, more over is too late now we don't want true federation what we need now is nothing but Biafra. and don't bother about Nigeria remembering our lost hero when Biafra comes we will do it and don't compare us with Sudan and don't bother aftermath of the new nation,
I live in the north precisely Kano, I was there when Reinhard Bonnke riot broke out,reason why is because heal lame and blind peoples and at Kaduna and converted some Muslim and wanted to carryout the same in Kano.
But today nine indigenous IMO state Christian converted to Islam sultan sokoto and okoroacha give them millions of naira,do you hear any riot in Igbo land.
Something happen in far away Denmark causes riot here in Kano. Osama bin laden riot nko that happened in far away in middle east. and many more riot that takes peoples life. please we are not one and can't be one our ideology,upbringing, understanding differs.
culture nko and final one religion killed it.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by jpphilips(m): 12:00pm On Nov 03, 2015
Not to worry, Nnamdi Kanu in captivity has released vital info on the workings of IPOB, first is their communication strong hold which is broken, next will be list of all the IPOB cell leaders, by the time Buhari is done with those urchins, they will understand the difference between a trained soldier and a sleeping civilian.
No more radio Biafra will mean peace for a very long time and no mobilization channel, they will only operate in pockets that will make them bulls eye for target practice.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by demoreon: 12:00pm On Nov 03, 2015
cramjones:
I have keenly observed the current events that have led to the arrest of Nnamdi Kanu, the self-proclaimed leader of the Biafran movement. I have mixed reactions to the events that have transpired and have communicated my thoughts to the Nigerian Presidency. I will attempt elucidating my thoughts here.
Your post made it to dailyindependent http://dailyindependentnig.com/2015/11/how-nigeria-must-deal-with-biafra/

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Tripleclick(m): 12:03pm On Nov 03, 2015
ExInferis:


The jews didn't start world war 2, therefore they have every moral right to be the victim.

The Biafrans started the Nigerian civil war. Nogeria was the victim that fought back. Dont equate the biafrans with the jews, equate them with the Nazis.

No one celebrates the aggressor.

The igbos have the right to seek self determination as everyone else. But the way they go about it by intimidating and threatening violence is not the way.

I for one would very much want biafra to materialize if for no other reason than to be rid of the criminal empire of the igbos and get them off our passports.
HOW DD IGBOS STARTED THE BIAFRAN WAR? PLZ YOU NEED GOOGLE... ALL ONLINE PARASITES THAT WONT SEARCH AND READ MEANINGFUL THING ON NET

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Kennydoc(m): 12:05pm On Nov 03, 2015
cramjones:
I have keenly observed the current events that have led to the arrest of Nnamdi Kanu, the self-proclaimed leader of the Biafran movement. I have mixed reactions to the events that have transpired and have communicated my thoughts to the Nigerian Presidency. I will attempt elucidating my thoughts here.

1. I am of the opinion that the call for Biafra is legitimate: Firstly, Biafra existed before Nigeria was created. It was made up of people with similar cultures and language (with majority tribe being Igbo). It is perfectly legitimate for the original inhabitants of the country to yearn to have back their country and resources under their control. However, I do not believe that Biafra is a viable solution at this time.

2. During the Biafran war it is estimated that at least 1 million people of largely Igbo extraction were killed! This is no doubt in mind a genocide. However, the Nigerian government has made a fundamental mistake by:

a. Not recognizing it ever took place, or playing down the number of those that died for political reasons, only serve to fuel violence and the call for secession.
b. They have also made a major mistake by not even having a memorial day to remember those that died during the genocide - This action alone will give a sense of belonging and would foster a deepened National unity.

3. If the government does not look into the creation of a true federation whilst implementing its pseudo-federalism, and pretend that a genocide never took place, then the dissolution of Nigeria or even the metastasis of the Biafrian movement becomes inevitable.

4. Despite the premise I have laid out, I still do not think a Biafran state is viable. This is why

i. The Eastern Goverments are fundamentally corrupt; A visit to present day Imo and Abia will attest to the corruption and rot that have plagued the region. These leaders have all FAILED to develop the east with the resources given to them. If they had made the East the "dubai" of Nigeria, everyone including the international community would have taken the cry for Biafra serious. The argument would be if the "Biafran leaders" can develop their region with the "little" resources given them, it is only fair they secede and do even more for their people and their region. However, this is not the case. A Biafran state will only lead to another mini civil war, and a fight for resources and wealth among Biafrans.

ii. Since 1970 when the war ended the geo-political dynamics of the Biafran region has changed. For example the people of Rivers would not want to be part of a country where their individual tribes become a minority. Same will go to Akwa Ibom etc. This will then lead to a disintegration of the original Biafran state, and would lead to a battle for resource control.

iii. If the above happens, Biafra would essentially be a landlocked country, and this can lead to an invasion and fight of Rivers, in order to fight for port control, oil revenue etc. Igbos will definitely need the ports since most of them are international business men, and won't afford to pay regions like Rivers for all the billions of dollars of imports that takes place in the region.

In summary, an eventual Biafran state through a peaceful referendum will lead to a situation worse than South Sundan.

Way forward:

1. President Buhari MUST as a matter of urgency look into the white paper of the national conference and work assidiously with congress to make sure he implements true Federalism.

2. We must as a matter of urgency accept that at least 1 million Igbos where killed and establish a day to remember these precious lives that were gone. We must go a step further to make sure we teach this history to our kids, and not ban it from being tought in schools.

3. If the Federal government treat the Biafra issue with kids gloves, we may have something worse than Boko Haram in our hands.

4. Release Nnamdi Kanu immediately! Sit down with him and lay out your plans to resolve this issue. It would be a disservice to the Igbo people to compare the rise of Boko Haram with this present agitation, but history has thought us that as dynamic and complex Nigeria is, we MUST as a matter of urgency address the agitation of the Biafrans, before it metastasize to a problem bigger than Nigeria. A stitch in time saves nine!

Personally, I have shared these thoughts to my friend and brother Femi Adeshina with the hope that he would communicate this to P.M.B.

It is my hope that this does not destroy our country in our very eyes.

First time I will agree with you 100%.
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by AfroKnight: 12:05pm On Nov 03, 2015
The Biafrans also killed other people. It was war. In war, each side seeks to win. That's the harsh reality.

Let us not make this mistake again.
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by baysol: 12:06pm On Nov 03, 2015
NOBLEDANDY:
The op write up is so much flawed...

Whoever that believe this poo can deny his legitimate mother.

Biafra we love and cherish....
No going back to the zoo

Make una come they go. We are tired of nbiafraud that has been used to disenfranchise and divide us since 10 B.c.
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Laid2001: 12:07pm On Nov 03, 2015
OK, now write this your post in any Igbo Dialect and see how many people will understand you!
FrankAba1:
@OP; and all the "one Nigeria" chanters, why are you all recklessly determined on retaining your slave name (Nigerian), given to you by a strange Oyibo woman?

Even your usage of so-called official language (English) is not recognize by neither the English law nor the British law books, in fact no African country is recognized by it!

What is bloody wrong with the "black" man? angry
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by jpphilips(m): 12:08pm On Nov 03, 2015
cramjones:
I have keenly observed the current events that have led to the arrest of Nnamdi Kanu, the self-proclaimed leader of the Biafran movement. I have mixed reactions to the events that have transpired and have communicated my thoughts to the Nigerian Presidency. I will attempt elucidating my thoughts here.

1. I am of the opinion that the call for Biafra is legitimate: Firstly, Biafra existed before Nigeria was created. It was made up of people with similar cultures and language (with majority tribe being Igbo). It is perfectly legitimate for the original inhabitants of the country to yearn to have back their country and resources under their control. However, I do not believe that Biafra is a viable solution at this time.

2. During the Biafran war it is estimated that at least 1 million people of largely Igbo extraction were killed! This is no doubt in mind a genocide. However, the Nigerian government has made a fundamental mistake by:

a. Not recognizing it ever took place, or playing down the number of those that died for political reasons, only serve to fuel violence and the call for secession.
b. They have also made a major mistake by not even having a memorial day to remember those that died during the genocide - This action alone will give a sense of belonging and would foster a deepened National unity.

3. If the government does not look into the creation of a true federation whilst implementing its pseudo-federalism, and pretend that a genocide never took place, then the dissolution of Nigeria or even the metastasis of the Biafrian movement becomes inevitable.

4. Despite the premise I have laid out, I still do not think a Biafran state is viable. This is why

i. The Eastern Goverments are fundamentally corrupt; A visit to present day Imo and Abia will attest to the corruption and rot that have plagued the region. These leaders have all FAILED to develop the east with the resources given to them. If they had made the East the "dubai" of Nigeria, everyone including the international community would have taken the cry for Biafra serious. The argument would be if the "Biafran leaders" can develop their region with the "little" resources given them, it is only fair they secede and do even more for their people and their region. However, this is not the case. A Biafran state will only lead to another mini civil war, and a fight for resources and wealth among Biafrans.

ii. Since 1970 when the war ended the geo-political dynamics of the Biafran region has changed. For example the people of Rivers would not want to be part of a country where their individual tribes become a minority. Same will go to Akwa Ibom etc. This will then lead to a disintegration of the original Biafran state, and would lead to a battle for resource control.

iii. If the above happens, Biafra would essentially be a landlocked country, and this can lead to an invasion and fight of Rivers, in order to fight for port control, oil revenue etc. Igbos will definitely need the ports since most of them are international business men, and won't afford to pay regions like Rivers for all the billions of dollars of imports that takes place in the region.

In summary, an eventual Biafran state through a peaceful referendum will lead to a situation worse than South Sundan.

Way forward:

1. President Buhari MUST as a matter of urgency look into the white paper of the national conference and work assidiously with congress to make sure he implements true Federalism.

2. We must as a matter of urgency accept that at least 1 million Igbos where killed and establish a day to remember these precious lives that were gone. We must go a step further to make sure we teach this history to our kids, and not ban it from being tought in schools.

3. If the Federal government treat the Biafra issue with kids gloves, we may have something worse than Boko Haram in our hands.

4. Release Nnamdi Kanu immediately! Sit down with him and lay out your plans to resolve this issue. It would be a disservice to the Igbo people to compare the rise of Boko Haram with this present agitation, but history has thought us that as dynamic and complex Nigeria is, we MUST as a matter of urgency address the agitation of the Biafrans, before it metastasize to a problem bigger than Nigeria. A stitch in time saves nine!

Personally, I have shared these thoughts to my friend and brother Femi Adeshina with the hope that he would communicate this to P.M.B.

It is my hope that this does not destroy our country in our very eyes.


You must be taking those lunatics too seriously, first I am yet to hear any Igbo Elite push for Biafra, Chinua Achebe only sold his books with the status quo which is understandable from a business point of view.

The Elites of Igbo land are feeding fat from Nigeria and have interests neck deep in Nigeria which a Biafran struggle will mar, those interests will stop at nothing to silence the struggle so don't bother about that.

Take out Radio Biafra and you will not hear of Biafra again in 2016.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Naijiant: 12:08pm On Nov 03, 2015
1. There was a Bight of Biafra b/4 Nigeria existed, but not a country of Biafra. “Bight” means exit from shipping lanes. The bight was named by Portuguese seafarers.

2. The Biafran agitation is more in relation to failures in governance in Nigeria in the last 20 years than what happened during the civil war. A lot pro-Biafra supporters were not even born during the war.

3. It may be likely that the people of Rivers, Cross River and Akwa Ibom may not want to join Biafra, but until you ask them, you can’t state this categorically.

4. While being a landlocked country is not ideal, it is no impediment to development. Switzerland is an affluent landlocked country. One of the most stable and relatively developed countries in sub-Saharan Africa is Botswana and it is landlocked (the highest ranked sub-Saharan country in the UN Human Development Index).

5. Nigeria needs to address the Biafran agitation in a mature and democratic way. We can learn from the Scottish and Catalan independence movements. Nobody is suppressing their rights to agitate and they are doing it democratically.

More info:
http://www.naijiant.com/articles/the-biafran-question/
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by laudate: 12:09pm On Nov 03, 2015
Tripleclick:
Is obvious u gux dnt read history.. who told u nigeria suppliedbus foods? all the food deliver was done by international community.. espcially USA.. how can nigeria poison it?

Guy, kindly read my post again. I never said Nigeria or the federal govt, supplied them with food. The offer of a land corridor through which food could come into Biafra, was made by the federal govt after they had banned the dropping of food into Biafra, through airplanes. This offer was rejected by the Biafran govt. The propaganda in Biafra at that time was that Nigeria had plans to poison any food sent through the land corridor, if they accepted the federal govt's offer. sad

My own position was that they should have accepted the offer made by the Nigerian govt, and then tested the food to see if it actually contained poison or not, instead of resorting to propaganda. I hope you catch my drift. undecided
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Tripleclick(m): 12:14pm On Nov 03, 2015
ferdyabu:

1billion likes. Only miscreants want Biafra. My Dad's mum is Igbo and I totally I agree with you.
Only miscreants?? and your mum igbo and then what??

When igbos are been killed and victmised, pple like u will kep quiet.. but wen de say rhy want to go.. u call dm names.. how many fulanis atrocities hv hit front page... d way topics against igbos hv made
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Tripleclick(m): 12:17pm On Nov 03, 2015
laudate:


Guy, kindly read my post again. I never said Nigeria or the federal govt, supplied them with food. The offer of a land corridor through which food could come into Biafra, was made by the federal govt after they had banned the dropping of food into Biafra, through airplanes. This offer was rejected by the Biafran govt. The propaganda in Biafra at that time was that Nigeria had plans to poison any food sent through the land corridor, if they accepted the federal govt's offer. sad

My own position was that they should have accepted the offer made by the Nigerian govt, and then tested the food to see if it actually contained poison or not, instead of resorting to propaganda. I hope you catch my drift. undecided
You want them to start testing foods in d mist of war and hunger u gux funny sha d way u ppl judge things

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Tripleclick(m): 12:19pm On Nov 03, 2015
jpphilips:
Not to worry, Nnamdi Kanu in captivity has released vital info on the workings of IPOB, first is their communication strong hold which is broken, next will be list of all the IPOB cell leaders, by the time Buhari is done with those urchins, they will understand the difference between a trained soldier and a sleeping civilian.
No more radio Biafra will mean peace for a very long time and no mobilization channel, they will only operate in pockets that will make them bulls eye for target practice.
RANTING AS USUAL..

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by laudate: 12:19pm On Nov 03, 2015
Naijiant:
1. There was a Bight of Biafra b/4 Nigeria existed, but not a country of Biafra. “Bight” means exit from shipping lanes. The bight was named by Portuguese seafarers.

2. The Biafran agitation is more in relation to failures in governance in Nigeria in the last 20 years than what happened during the civil war. A lot pro-Biafra supporters were not even born during the war.

3. It may be likely that the people of Rivers, Cross River and Akwa Ibom may not want to join Biafra, but until you ask them, you can’t state this categorically.

4. While being a landlocked country is not ideal, it is no impediment to development. Switzerland is an affluent landlocked country. One of the most stable and relatively developed countries in sub-Saharan Africa is Botswana and it is landlocked (the highest ranked sub-Saharan country in the UN Human Development Index).

5. Nigeria needs to address the Biafran agitation in a mature and democratic way. We can learn from the Scottish and Catalan independence movements. Nobody is suppressing their rights to agitate and they are doing it democratically.

More info:
http://www.naijiant.com/articles/the-biafran-question/

Guy, a lot of pro-Biafran supporters were NOT born during the war, but their forbears have fed them with a lot of propaganda about events that occurred during the war. sad

It is that same propaganda, tribalism and hate that they are now recycling in their agitation for Biafra 2.0 version. Just check all Nnamdi Kanu's speeches on Radiobiafra and kindly do a content analysis of all his supporters responses, on Nairaland. sad

Am glad you used Botswana as an example of a land-locked country that has thrived on the African continent. Do you know why?? They have worked hard to maintain excellent relations with South Africa and Namibia, primarily because all their imports and exports go through the ports of these countries. They even partnered with Namibia to construct a dry port along the axis leading to Walvis Bay, in Namibia. undecided

With the kind of hate that pro-Biafra supporters keep spewing out towards the non-Igbo on these threads, do you think their proposed countries will be able re-enact the kind of relationship Botswana has with its' neighbours, in Biafra if the Akwa-Ibom & Cross-River ethnic groups do not join their proposed country?? I think not. shocked
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by wiseoneking: 12:21pm On Nov 03, 2015
EzePromoe:
[b]Who told you that the South East is underdeveloped? You guys don't know the actual meaning of development. Development is not by building roads or other infrastructures where its population are prevalently lazy by nature. For me, the South East is developed because of its Labour force and human resources which it supplies to the entire nation and still maintain a pace that can compete with what's obtainable in regions that are economically viable. The only indigenous Automobile industry Nigeria has is in the South East. With no federal government presence, the people of the South East have created the two of the largest markets in West Africa (Onitsha and Ariaria). That shows you that the Igbos are capitalist in nature and orientation. And again, need I remind you that Anambra is the only 3-city state in the country? WHAT YOU GUYS ALWAYS THINK IS THAT BECAUSE YOU SEE IGBO BUSINESSMEN IN YOUR HOMETOWN OR WHERE YOU LIVE, THEN IT EQUATES TO THE FACT THAT THE SOUTH EAST IS UNREDEEMABLY UNDERDEVELOPED. YOU SEE THE IGBO MAN IN YOUR COMPOUND AS SOMEONE COMING TO SEEK GREENER PASTURE, WHICH IS TOTALLY A VERY INCORRECT PERCEPTION. Many of you don't know the level of competition that exists in the South East. You will be marvelled at the vibrant business activity that goes on even in the remotest village in the South East. It's only normal that any sane man will migrate to a far away region where he thinks there are lesser competition and large purchasing power in order to do his business. Is Nigeria more developed than those Western or Asian countries that do businesses here? It's simple business strategy. It pains me that people can concoct garbage about Igbos in the comfort of their bedroom and publish it as fact, and the mentally lazy ones who can't make simple research will swallow it hook, line and sinker and relay the same garbage in an exaggerated manner, to his neighbour. Thank God I've been to the South East if not I will be making this kind of assumption.

About Biafra, I think the Government escalated this agitation by negligence and show of tyranny. As much as I love this country, I'm afraid that this agitation has gotten to its climax where it can't be negotiated. This is the bitter truth that fellow patriots like me won't come to terms with. The FG made this mistake with Boko Haram and look at where they are today. The FG are indirectly radicalizing this pro-Biafran agitators without knowing it. They think they are defending the nation's unity but they're wrong. What they're actually doing is grooming the hatred for Nigeria in the heart of young Igbo Nigerians (who are no longer seeing themselves as Nigerians by the way). This hatred if not curtailed now at its infancy will grow to an extent where it will go violent, and that is the last thing Nigeria needs now. Some Nigerians are so foolish to think that any uprising that starts in Igbo land will be felt only in Igbo land. Use Boko Haram as case study. Nigeria's economy is dwindling today because the government is spending what it hadn't intended to on procuring ammunitions to combat the terrorists and with oil prize dwindling, the coffers where these money are coming out from are not being replenished. And here again we have investors closing their investments due to poor economic planning by this administration.
The Nigerian government should just leave these Biafran activists alone. You can use the police to kill them and stop their protests but you can't use the police to take their agitation from their hearts. What use is it having citizens that hate their country with all their hearts?
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Brilliant! Honestly you must be highly intelligent to have crafted your write up. Igbos troups to some parts of the west and north because they believe that these people there are lazy. You will truly respect igbos if you travel outside Igbo land. I am presently on an assigment now in Ogoja in Cross river state, virtually all existing businesses apart from farming are dominated by igbos. They filled every nooks and crannies of this beautiful town of ogoja with very good street roads. I dont just feel like coming back to Eko the jungle with it's hectic outrageous traffic Jam. Biafraland will one day exist as 10 federating state why Naija will be 26 states of SW, ALL NORTHERN STATES, EDO. May God bring it to pass

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by uduokirika1(m): 12:21pm On Nov 03, 2015
Go back to your history books

Have you heard of the Asaba Massacre? Where innocent civilians were summarily executed was that also part of conventional warfarism?

If Hitler could be accused of Genocide for killing innocent civilians during WWII why are the likes of Obasanjo, Buhari, Gowon still walking free?

In August 1967 Biafran troops captured Ore town in wester Nigeria but not a single civilian casualty was recorded, but when the Fed troops drove them back to Onitsha they decided to transfer agression on innocent civilians!

The Awolowo position in "all is fair in war" is genocidal, 'cos UN chater on conventional warfare protects the lives of women, children and the aged. Biafrans are not saying they needed food from Nigeria but blockading and destroying same from willing donors was contrary to laid down rules of engagement! Are you are aware that a Red cross aircraft carrying food and medical supplies was shot down in 1968 by the Nigerian airforce?

Like I said earlier go back to your history books, It is on record that that the Nigerian lost more combatant soldiers than the Biafran troops during the war but the Biafrans lost more civillians!

Most of the aerial bombardment carried out by the Nigerian troops were targeted on civilians soft spots like schools, churches and market places!

In all, no one is advocating for war rather a peaceful resolution to issues on ground. Butt nigeria's constant negligence and downplaying the effects of the aftermat of the civil war has brought with it a new wave of agitations!

NOTE: over 90% of those clamouring for Biafra today never witnessed the the civil war, what that simply entails is that the scares are yet to heal and the Nigerian govt of the day are not helping matters!

Let me stop here 4 now
gists:
I just don't get it when people play the victim card on the number of people that died in the inglorious civil war. I don't care about the number be it 500k, 1m, 3m or even 10m! Afterall, it was a war and the biafra soldiers were not saying the lords prayers - they were busy killing Nigerians too.

For some reasons, I took a public transport some weeks ago I heard some guys discussing (they were both ibos). One of them ask the other "how on earth do you fight with someone that feeds you?" According to him, although Awolowo was wrong for the so-called starvation policy, but should be commended for ending the war sooner because he (Awo) could have chosen to poison the foods and kill millions more instead of the blockade.

I never thought of it that way before but it rang through to me. You can't pick up a fight with your boss and later turn around complaining that he sacks you! His point was that the ibos started a war that they were not prepared for and now complaining of the consequence - fighting someone that feed you and later complain of not giving you food.

Having said that the truth is that everybody has a GOD given right to call for self-determination. BUT it must be through peaceful means. Otherwise history is notorious of having a way to repeat itself. A friend showed me a video on a questions and answer summit by some Igbo group with Mr Kanu. It was shocking to see how unprepaired the guy is as he couldn't give convincing answers to some of the questions asked.

Any group is free to ask for independence but it has to be peaceful without insult to others especially those who they think should follow them.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 12:23pm On Nov 03, 2015
Nigerian government committed genocide against Biafra people by fighting a war with starvation which is a war crime, they succeeded in doing so by trading off Bakassi pennusila to Cameroon, that is war of cowardice, with all the Russian and UK backed army and weapons they couldn't defeat Biafra until they cowardly trade bakasi to Cameroon for a blockade. Biafra deserve independence from Nigeria.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Ephemmm: 12:23pm On Nov 03, 2015
dialfa:
see this zoo man
[s]instead of planning how to liberate your oduduwa from fulani occupation you wan get headache for another man matter and are providing advice to perpetuate the zoo
you dirty lot really love your zoo
[/s]

I doubt it if this Biafra lunatics read the write up. Op mentioned another disintegration which somebody like Isaac Boro has tried under the former Easter Region to liberate Ijaw people from Eastern part, but which was subdued by the same Igbo former President all to protect the interest of Igbos over minority.

The problem with Igbo is greed, self-entitlement and born to rule, control and exploit mentality. Qatar is smaller than Bayelsa in population and half d size of Bayelsa state by landmass. Bayelsa is four times the size of Singapore. if Qatar and Singapore can be a country, why cant we have an Ijaw nation as a country? Do u think Ijaw people dont want to be like Qatar and enjoy their oil alone like Qatar does? Note: Bayelsa State is d smallest state in the south south by population and second to the last by landmass!!

For your information, it is now obvious that Igbo primary interest is separation from Nigeria with Niger delta as their trophy.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by austinbrown: 12:25pm On Nov 03, 2015
Idiot go and deal with Shakau first
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by PhockPhockMan: 12:28pm On Nov 03, 2015

1. I am of the opinion that the call for Biafra is legitimate: Firstly, Biafra existed before Nigeria was created. It was made up of people with similar cultures and language (with majority tribe being Igbo). It is perfectly legitimate for the original inhabitants of the country to yearn to have back their country and resources under their control. However, [b] I do not believe that Biafra is a viable solution at this time.

@bolded, you made sense for the first time.
But whether biafra is the viable solution to Nigeria's problem shouldn't concern biafrans.





2. [[b] During the Biafran war it is estimated that at least 1 million people of largely Igbo extraction were killed! This is no doubt in mind a genocide.
However, the Nigerian government has made a fundamental mistake by:

a. Not recognizing it ever took place, or playing down the number of those that died for political reasons, only serve to fuel violence and the call for secession.
b. They have also made a major mistake by not even having a memorial day to remember those that died during the genocide - This action alone will give a sense of belonging and would foster a deepened National unity

It's more than 3 million Biafran women and children was Massacred by evil Nigeria government.

Nigerian government don't need to remember them, we do, on every 30pt May.




i. The Eastern Goverments are fundamentally corrupt; A visit to present day Imo and Abia will attest to the corruption and rot that have plagued the region. These leaders have all FAILED to develop the east with the resources given to them. If they had made the East the "dubai" of Nigeria, everyone including the international community would have taken the cry for Biafra serious. The argument would be if the "Biafran leaders" can develop their region with the "little" resources given them, it is only fair they secede and do even more for their people and their region. However, this is not the case. A Biafran state lwill only lead to another mini civil war, and a fight for resources and wealth among Biafrans.

Before branding biafrans as very corrupt. How many biafrans are in the most corrupt list in Nigeria.

1. Oluesgun Obasanjo – He stole $25 billion from 1999-2007 ($16.4 from power sector alone)

2. Ibrahim Babangida – He stole $15 billion from 1985-1993 ($12.4 billion from oil wind fall in 1990)

3. Abdulsalam Abubakar – He stole $9 billion from 1998-99

4. Sani Abacha – He stole $7 billion from 1993-1998

5. Ahmed Bola Tinubu – He stole and continues to steal from Lagos State treasury since 1999 till date. It’s estimated that he has stolen $6 billion so far.

6. TY Danjuma – He fraudulently got enriched through oil blocks from the Niger Delta worth $20 million in the 70s after the counter coup. Those oil blocks worth billions of dollars in today’s value.

7. Sanusi Lamido Sanusi – He stole $1.2 billion as CBN Governor from 2008-2014.

8. Bukola Saraki – Through his father, Olukola Saraki, their bank, Societe Generale and as a governor of Kwara State (2003-20111) he stole $1.1 billion

9. Nasir El Rufai – Before he was made the FCT Minister, El Rufai was broke, homeless and was looking for loan to import taxis from the UK. After he was made the minister, he seized landed properties that belonged to Nigerians and resold them with huge profit. It’s estimated that he stole $1 billion from 2003-2007.

10. Tunde Fashola – He is the poster boy of Tinubu. Boht of them looted Lagos dried and left it in debt of about N1 billion. Fashola, among other thing built his personal website for N78 million, drilled borehole for over N100 million per each and built a kilometre road for N1 billion. He stole $900 million from 2007-2015. He’ll soon be a minister to continue the looting.

11. Chubike Rotimi Amaechi – From 2007 to 2015, he stole $700 million and $150 million from that money was used to sponsor Buhari and APC.

12. Atiku Abubakar – When he as asked by our reporter how he made his money, he simply said “he was always at the right place at the right time.” Atiku is an astute businessman, but through shady deals, he stole $500 million from 1999-2007.

13. James Ibori – He stole $150 million from 1999-2007 as governor of Delta State. He’s serving his term for money laundering in the UK.

14. Amina Mohammed – This woman was the founder of Afri-Project Consortium (APC) that was in charge of all PTF Projects during Abacha’s regime. About $125 million was stolen from PTF accounts from 1994-1998. Buhari has just nominated the same woman as a minister to continue to stealing.

15. DSP Alamieyeseigha – He stole $120 million and was arrested for money laundering. He pleaded guilty and long served his term.

16. Sule Lamido – He stole $110 million between 2007-2015 and out of that amount, $50 million was found in his sons’ bank accounts. He was arrested and detained for days together with his sons.

17. Rabui Kwankwaso – He stole $100 million as a governor of Kano State. EFCC has arrested many of his aides and they are “singing” how they siphoned the money

18. Kashium Shettima – this governor has stolen about $80 million and still counting.

19. Rauf Aregbesola – he has milked Osun State to the tune of $60 million.

20. Kayode Fayemi – this former governor stole $40 million and stashed some part of the loot in Ghana. He was reportedly bought a bed for N50 million

As for resources control, it's already in biafra constitution.
Check it out.


. Release Nnamdi Kanu immediately! Sit down with him and lay out your plans to resolve this issue. It would be a disservice to the Igbo people to compare the rise of Boko Haram with this present agitation, but history has thought us that as dynamic and complex Nigeria is, we MUST as a matter of urgency address the agitation of the Biafrans, before it metastasize to a problem bigger than Nigeria. A stitch in time saves nine!



Let's watch and see.


Wait o o, so cramjones get small sense like this, or the moniker is being handled by Beremx as promised?
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by laudate: 12:28pm On Nov 03, 2015
Ephemmm:
I doubt it if this Biafra lunatics read the write up. Op mentioned another disintegration which somebody like Isaac Boro has tried under the former Easter Region to liberate Ijaw people from Eastern part, but which was subdued by the same Igbo former President all to protect the interest of Igbos over minority.

The problem with Igbo is greed, self-entitlement and born to rule, control and exploit mentality. Qatar is smaller than Bayelsa in population and half d size of Bayelsa state by landmass. Bayelsa is four times the size of Singapore. if Qatar and Singapore can be a country, why cant we have an Ijaw nation as a country? Do u think Ijaw people dont want to be like Qatar and enjoy their oil alone like Qatar does? Note: Bayelsa State is d smallest state in the south south by population and second to the last by landmass!!

For your information, it is now obvious that Igbo primary interest is separation from Nigeria with Niger delta as their trophy.

This is getting interesting! I am intrigued by this analysis. Do carry on... cheesy
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Obiwiz(m): 12:28pm On Nov 03, 2015
Phinity318:
Attention: Nigeria is one, It's high time the igbos realise the fact that we are an indivisible sovereign state.
PARASITE ALERT!
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by longayink: 12:31pm On Nov 03, 2015
dialfa:
see this zoo man
instead of planning how to liberate your oduduwa from fulani occupation you wan get headache for another man matter and are providing advice to perpetuate the zoo
you dirty lot really love your zoo

cramjones and some Yoruba hardly understand that Oduduwa Republic MUST have developed Yorubaland by far more than what is on ground today.

They hardly understand that Nigeria is a draw back to development in Oduduwa country.

Let Biafra go. Buhari and his north believe that the existing 36 states political structure which Arewa soldiers created is at the benefit of Arewa.
The political structure has 20 federating units in once one region northern Nigeria, but only 17 federating units in once two regions south. The structure is at the benefit of Arewa which can produce anybody Arewa likes to preside over Nigeria any time.
Arewa is not willing to give an inch as far as restructuring the polity is concerned, because it must use its over-representation in the polity to thwart any attempt at restructuring the fraudulent political structure.



Let Biafra go now.

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by laudate: 12:32pm On Nov 03, 2015
Tripleclick:
You want them to start testing foods in d mist of war and hunger u gux funny sha d way u ppl judge things

They were able to build Ogbunigwe and refine oil for their cars, in the midst of the war. So why on earth could they NOT have tested ordinary food, during the war??
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Nobody: 12:32pm On Nov 03, 2015
God bless u cramjones!reading dis brought tears to my eyes(no lie).if only d fg wud set pride aside and honour a day 2 mark d biafran genocide/end of d civil war nigeria wud b more united.Also true federalism and resource control wud remove any cal 4 seccession.blame our leaders if nigeria eva divides cos dis country z beta off as 1.
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Chigold101(m): 12:34pm On Nov 03, 2015
cramjones:
I have keenly observed the current events that have led to the arrest of Nnamdi Kanu, the self-proclaimed leader of the Biafran movement. I have mixed reactions to the events that have transpired and have communicated my thoughts to the Nigerian Presidency. I will attempt elucidating my thoughts here.

1. I am of the opinion that the call for Biafra is legitimate: Firstly, Biafra existed before Nigeria was created. It was made up of people with similar cultures and language (with majority tribe being Igbo). It is perfectly legitimate for the original inhabitants of the country to yearn to have back their country and resources under their control. However, I do not believe that Biafra is a viable solution at this time.

2. During the Biafran war it is estimated that at least 1 million people of largely Igbo extraction were killed! This is no doubt in mind a genocide. However, the Nigerian government has made a fundamental mistake by:

a. Not recognizing it ever took place, or playing down the number of those that died for political reasons, only serve to fuel violence and the call for secession.
b. They have also made a major mistake by not even having a memorial day to remember those that died during the genocide - This action alone will give a sense of belonging and would foster a deepened National unity.

3. If the government does not look into the creation of a true federation whilst implementing its pseudo-federalism, and pretend that a genocide never took place, then the dissolution of Nigeria or even the metastasis of the Biafrian movement becomes inevitable.

4. Despite the premise I have laid out, I still do not think a Biafran state is viable. This is why

i. The Eastern Goverments are fundamentally corrupt; A visit to present day Imo and Abia will attest to the corruption and rot that have plagued the region. These leaders have all FAILED to develop the east with the resources given to them. If they had made the East the "dubai" of Nigeria, everyone including the international community would have taken the cry for Biafra serious. The argument would be if the "Biafran leaders" can develop their region with the "little" resources given them, it is only fair they secede and do even more for their people and their region. However, this is not the case. A Biafran state will only lead to another mini civil war, and a fight for resources and wealth among Biafrans.

ii. Since 1970 when the war ended the geo-political dynamics of the Biafran region has changed. For example the people of Rivers would not want to be part of a country where their individual tribes become a minority. Same will go to Akwa Ibom etc. This will then lead to a disintegration of the original Biafran state, and would lead to a battle for resource control.

iii. If the above happens, Biafra would essentially be a landlocked country, and this can lead to an invasion and fight of Rivers, in order to fight for port control, oil revenue etc. Igbos will definitely need the ports since most of them are international business men, and won't afford to pay regions like Rivers for all the billions of dollars of imports that takes place in the region.

In summary, an eventual Biafran state through a peaceful referendum will lead to a situation worse than South Sundan.

Way forward:

1. President Buhari MUST as a matter of urgency look into the white paper of the national conference and work assidiously with congress to make sure he implements true Federalism.

2. We must as a matter of urgency accept that at least 1 million Igbos where killed and establish a day to remember these precious lives that were gone. We must go a step further to make sure we teach this history to our kids, and not ban it from being tought in schools.

3. If the Federal government treat the Biafra issue with kids gloves, we may have something worse than Boko Haram in our hands.

4. Release Nnamdi Kanu immediately! Sit down with him and lay out your plans to resolve this issue. It would be a disservice to the Igbo people to compare the rise of Boko Haram with this present agitation, but history has thought us that as dynamic and complex Nigeria is, we MUST as a matter of urgency address the agitation of the Biafrans, before it metastasize to a problem bigger than Nigeria. A stitch in time saves nine!

Personally, I have shared these thoughts to my friend and brother Femi Adeshina with the hope that he would communicate this to P.M.B.
It is my hope that this does not destroy our country in our very eyes.
for this first time in 1000years this is your first sensible point. Your points are well articulated.
This is just so on point
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by jidxin(m): 12:35pm On Nov 03, 2015
cramjones:
I have keenly observed the current events that have led to the arrest of Nnamdi Kanu, the self-proclaimed leader of the Biafran movement. I have mixed reactions to the events that have transpired and have communicated my thoughts to the Nigerian Presidency. I will attempt elucidating my thoughts here.

1. I am of the opinion that the call for Biafra is legitimate: Firstly, Biafra existed before Nigeria was created. It was made up of people with similar cultures and language (with majority tribe being Igbo). It is perfectly legitimate for the original inhabitants of the country to yearn to have back their country and resources under their control. However, I do not believe that Biafra is a viable solution at this time.

2. During the Biafran war it is estimated that at least 1 million people of largely Igbo extraction were killed! This is no doubt in mind a genocide. However, the Nigerian government has made a fundamental mistake by:

a. Not recognizing it ever took place, or playing down the number of those that died for political reasons, only serve to fuel violence and the call for secession.
b. They have also made a major mistake by not even having a memorial day to remember those that died during the genocide - This action alone will give a sense of belonging and would foster a deepened National unity.

3. If the government does not look into the creation of a true federation whilst implementing its pseudo-federalism, and pretend that a genocide never took place, then the dissolution of Nigeria or even the metastasis of the Biafrian movement becomes inevitable.

4. Despite the premise I have laid out, I still do not think a Biafran state is viable. This is why

i. The Eastern Goverments are fundamentally corrupt; A visit to present day Imo and Abia will attest to the corruption and rot that have plagued the region. These leaders have all FAILED to develop the east with the resources given to them. If they had made the East the "dubai" of Nigeria, everyone including the international community would have taken the cry for Biafra serious. The argument would be if the "Biafran leaders" can develop their region with the "little" resources given them, it is only fair they secede and do even more for their people and their region. However, this is not the case. A Biafran state will only lead to another mini civil war, and a fight for resources and wealth among Biafrans.

ii. Since 1970 when the war ended the geo-political dynamics of the Biafran region has changed. For example the people of Rivers would not want to be part of a country where their individual tribes become a minority. Same will go to Akwa Ibom etc. This will then lead to a disintegration of the original Biafran state, and would lead to a battle for resource control.

iii. If the above happens, Biafra would essentially be a landlocked country, and this can lead to an invasion and fight of Rivers, in order to fight for port control, oil revenue etc. Igbos will definitely need the ports since most of them are international business men, and won't afford to pay regions like Rivers for all the billions of dollars of imports that takes place in the region.

In summary, an eventual Biafran state through a peaceful referendum will lead to a situation worse than South Sundan.

Way forward:

1. President Buhari MUST as a matter of urgency look into the white paper of the national conference and work assidiously with congress to make sure he implements true Federalism.

2. We must as a matter of urgency accept that at least 1 million Igbos where killed and establish a day to remember these precious lives that were gone. We must go a step further to make sure we teach this history to our kids, and not ban it from being tought in schools.

3. If the Federal government treat the Biafra issue with kids gloves, we may have something worse than Boko Haram in our hands.

4. Release Nnamdi Kanu immediately! Sit down with him and lay out your plans to resolve this issue. It would be a disservice to the Igbo people to compare the rise of Boko Haram with this present agitation, but history has thought us that as dynamic and complex Nigeria is, we MUST as a matter of urgency address the agitation of the Biafrans, before it metastasize to a problem bigger than Nigeria. A stitch in time saves nine!

Personally, I have shared these thoughts to my friend and brother Femi Adeshina with the hope that he would communicate this to P.M.B.

It is my hope that this does not destroy our country in our very eyes.
biafra never existed b4 nigeria cos biafra is not even an igbo word d bight covers as far as gabon

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Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by spinoff: 12:36pm On Nov 03, 2015
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i. The Eastern Goverments are fundamentally corrupt; A visit to present day Imo and Abia will attest to the corruption and rot that have plagued the region. These leaders have all FAILED to develop the east with the resources given to them. If they had made the East the "dubai" of Nigeria, everyone including the international community would have taken the cry for Biafra serious. The argument would be if the "Biafran leaders" can develop their region with the "little" resources given them, it is only fair they secede and do even more for their people and their region. However, this is not the case.


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Worse still and bafflingly, prior his demise, the arrowhead of the struggle, and so a credible and fitting rallying point, was rejected at the polls even by his own people with his party's grip in the Biafran heartland now reduced to no more than a toehold.

Obviously there's a far deeper problem of credibility here.
Please let the war dead rest iin peace. Stuff bad enough as it is.
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by jidxin(m): 12:39pm On Nov 03, 2015
Kennydoc:


First time I will agree with you 100%.
nnamdi kanu should be charge wit treason treasonable felony nd sedition
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by marleyboy1991: 12:39pm On Nov 03, 2015
I don't care about biafra or what they stand for...the millions that died during biafra wars was as a result of Ojukwu who claimed to be a military commander but failed to realise its opponent were stronger..,larger and more recognised than her (biafra)...ojukwu used child soldiers....anyone that died then are called "casualities of war"...
Ojukwu fled when he lost the war...this man killed those millions of igbos......
And they should not release Nnamdi whateva is name is....
He is a rebel against the fedral republic of nigeria....you don't let rebels walk freely in your territory as the president.....
Any igbo in his right senses won't wanna think about war.....lots of people will die on both sides...but don't be decieve ...igbos will feel the pain most........
Say no to War!!!!!!!!!!! Be it civil or any kinda war
Re: How Nigeria Must Deal With Biafra - Cramjones by Ephemmm: 12:48pm On Nov 03, 2015
laudate:


This is getting interesting! I am intrigued by this analysis. Do carry on... cheesy

Ok.

So far you are interesting, carefully read this objective eye-opener write up I came across long time ago, and you will realize that Biafra is Biafra.

[b]South South Niger Delta will never join biafra

Igbo are using the support they gave to Jonathan in 2015 election as blackmail to convert Niger delta struggle to biafra. Niger delta struggle is resource control and true federalism. This deception will not work. They only supported Jonathan because they got alot of appointments under Jonathan. They are just selfish and greedy people. Niger Delta Struggle is completely different from biafra agitation. Igbo supported Obasanjo against thier own son and hero Ojukwu in 2003 election, they should go and claim yoruba instead.

As far as I am concern Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa are all benefiting from the current system. After all an Igbo man Gen Agunyi Ironsi created the Unitary System for Nigeria in 1966 that we are complaining against today. Gen Agunyi Ironsi set the foundation for the destruction of regional federalism in Nigeria. if not for his love for total control and domination (The disease of an average Igbo man), Niger delta would have be enjoying 50% resource control today. When Isaac Adaka Boro wanted to form Ijaw Nation Republic in 1966 it was Igbo Head of State Gen Agunyi Ironsi that fought him with a 12 day war.

The Igbo claim to be one of us because some South South states were part of the old Eastern region. First of all, eastern region was created by Nigeria for Nigeria convenience. It was not a decision of the nationalities that made up the old eastern region. Secondly before most people forget, today Edo and Delta state were never at anytime part of eastern region. Edo and Delta states were first part of Western region later became Midwestern region, then change to Bendel state before becoming Edo and Delta state today. Some tribes speak Yoruba in Edo and Delta state. Why is yoruba not claiming Edo and Delta state the way igbo is claiming Rivers and Delta states because some people speak ibo in those states?

Igbo may have succeeded in brainwashing some South South people that they are one of us, it is a big lie. They may have succeeded in brainwashing some of us that only hausa and yoruba is the problem of South South, it is a big lie. They are the same as far as I am concern.

The problem with Igbo is greed, self-entitlement and born to rule, control and exploit mentality. Qatar is smaller than Bayelsa in population and half d size of Bayelsa state by landmass. Bayelsa is four times the size of Singapore. if Qatar and Singapore can be a country, why cant we have an Ijaw nation as a country? Do u think Ijaw people dont want to be like Qatar and enjoy their oil alone like Qatar does? Note: Bayelsa State is d smallest state in the south south by population and second to the last by landmass!!


Below is the size of south south states and south east states. South South is almost 3 times the size of south East.
Yet the population of South east is almost 80% of south south population base on 2006 census. But by the time you add igbo who are currently leaving outside south east, you will discover that thier population is more than all the south south put together. More than 90% of the resources (oil, gas, limestones,etc) are in the south south. The whole of South East is landlock with no direct access to the sea or atlantic ocean. but almost all the south south states have direct assess to the sea and atlantic ocean. Some will say they have River Niger. River Niger is not a sea or an ocean for big Ships.

Tell me why South South Nations will want to form a country with south east if they have a choice ? all south east will bring to the table is population and domination? The total oil production from south east is not up to 10% of south south oil production!

If you are the leader of south south nations will you advice them to form a country with south east if they have the option of forming their own country alone? give a sincere answer!!

As far as I am concern, as unbrainwashed south south , there is no difference between the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa. To me, these are three major tribe struggling and fighting for Supiriority. Whenever any of the three is loosing, he shout marginalization.

During Jonathan govt, the Igbos were gaining and were in control and were happy. The Yoruba were losing and were shouting marginalization. The hausa/fulani were not happy because they were not fully in control. For the North we can slightly understand because in the 16years of democracy (May 1999 to May 2015) the south ruled 13.3years while the North had just 2.7years

The Igbo don't love south south more than the hausa or Yoruba love us. All the three tribe are all struggling for the control of south south oil. None of the three is better than the other as far as we south south are concern.

The only place south south nationalities agree with Igbo is Nigeria should divide . However while south south clamour for succession is base on lack of true fiscal Federalism and resource control, on the other hand, igbo clamour for succession is base on IGBO BORN TO RULE, CONTROL AND EXPLOIT MENTALITY. Igbo make noise and claim d north have born to rule mentality because of Sokoto State former licence plate motto of born to rule which they have change. The People with the true born to rule mentality are d Igbo. it is because they are not having thier way that they are complaining and making all d noise all over Nigeria.

But how and why Nigeria will and should divide, what we want and what they want is as different as d distance of the earth to d moon.

South south want resource control or thier own freedom. we will support Biafra as Igbo only nation while they should support us to form our own nation or nations. But trying to add us as an appendage to Biafra will never happen.

If south south join Biafra, our individual identities will be wiped out in less than 50years. They will convert every south south nationality to Igbo. And they will so much take charge of the oil and resources with reckless abandon without any regard to d minorities.

LET EVERYONE FORMS HIS OWN NATION IF WE CAN'T GET 50% RESOURCE CONTROL. SOUTH SOUTH NATIONS DONT WANT IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA IN THIER NATION. WE DONT WANT ANY DOMINANT TRIBE TO CONTROL US IF OR WHEN NIGERIA DIVIDE.

They will argue that there are some igbo in rivers state, delta state and edo state. As far as i am concern Igbo speaking people in south south will join Niger delta republic or confederation. Their are Hausa people in Niger, there are Yoruba people in Benin Republic and Togo. Does that make those yoruba and hausa speaking people in those countries Nigerians?

The south south nationalities can form a confederation with United Arab Emirate template, where seven different nationalities came together to form a confederation with each nationality having some form of autonomy.

if the south east want to join the confederation they can join. We can't leave nigeria and go and form another normal single country were there is a dominant tribe. That will be moving from frying pan to fire.

Just like the United Ararb emirate asked qatar and behrain to join them, but qatar and behrain choose to form thier individual countries.

What Biafra represent is a single country with a powerful centre where a dominant tribe can control. South south dont want that. If we must fight or struggle for succession, we need a new name like "United State of niger delta" or any other name which clearly shows a union rather than a single country.

We need to set the record straight before south south nations make the mistake of south Sudan. It is more than Four years south sudan left
sudan to form thier country. Since that time south sudan has been in War while North Sudan enjoy peace. This was because nations in
south sudan came together to form a single country without ensuring that thier difference in ethnicity was fully discuss. Some
part of south sudan are now feeling marginalized. That is exactly what will happen if Igbo succeed in forcing south south nations into
Biafra. That so called Biafra wont have peace. It will be another Somalia!!!!

For peace to rain let Igbo form Biafra from the Five south east state and let the the six states in south south form a confederation or seperate nations. Anything outside this will never work.

I do not hate Igbo people. Many of my friends are Igbo. I only hate thier deceit and greed. what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
What we dont want is a dominant tribe simple. If south south join Biafra, that country will be 60% Igbo. How do you think other minorities can compete in that kind of country? Whether we like it or not we both know that Igbo are not diplomatic people by nature. That will lead to complete extinction of other tribe. in less than 50years they will make the whole Biafra Ibo without any consideration.

I dont hate Igbo. But i hate when i know the Biafra they seek is a Biafra with current south south as an appendage to it.
Why cant they support our freedom, and we will support thier freedom. Why do igbo make it look like it is wrong for Niger Delta people to seek thier own freedom outside Biafra? In biafra current south south minority will be like conquered people. God forbid that to happen.

a quote from Isaac Adaka Boro Autobiography (wriiten himself). Read Chapter 5 - Campus Politics
http://www.adakaboro.org/the12dayrev/chapter-5-campus-politics.
This was the campaign statement of his opponent for UNN SUG presidency:
"My opponent, Ejiogu, took the floor when I had finished, and what did he say? "Ladies and gentleman, this is a crucial time in Nigeria when we should not allow a vocal minority to rule an obvious majority.
These words still ring in my memory because, as my opponent put it, they are crucial not only to me but to my people, the Ijaws. Most of the alien students walked out of the hall and it seemed as if a spell was cast on the atmosphere. The campaigns ended solemnly and the result of the election was again one way. Ejiogu won with his majority. The last minute strategy. A Cameroonian friend of mine, John Ngole, promptly resigned his secretaryship of the Historical Society in protest."

I am very sure that Nigeria will divide faster if Igbo seek Biafra with 5 south east state alone and Niger delta republic seek a country with the 6 South south states alone at the same time. Once the Hausa and Yoruba sees that Igbo are supporting a Niger Delta republic separate from Biafra, they will see it as true struggle. But if the struggle is about Biafra with south south in it, where Igbo will gain south south resources with Yoruba and Hausa loosing out, I bet you until South South oil finishes, Nigeria wont divide.

If we cant get resource control, we don't need to form a single country with Igbo, we can seek for our separate nation on two front simultaneously but not on one front. What we need is cooperation from Igbo not togetherness with Igbo. If they truly want to leave Nigeria and liberate Niger delta people from dominant tribes, they should support us to form our nation as they form thiers. I bet you when that happen, the struggle will be half won.

The Ojukwu Biafra was Igbo dream not Ijaw, Esan, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ikwerre, ogoni, ibibio, etc dream.

In summary, my point is that why the primary interest of Niger Deltans is resource control, Igbo primary interest is seperation from Nigeria with Niger delta as thier trophy. Igbo wants a nation where they can become the lord, control and dominate others. Since in Nigeria, Hausa and yoruba are ahead of them in the power struggle, they resort to blackmail and cry foul claiming marginalization.

if Nigeria will divide peacefully by United Nations referendum, south south will not join Biafra. Peaceful division of Nigeria can only be into a minimum of five countries (Arewa republic, Niger Middle belt, United Niger Delta, Oduwa republic, and Biafra). South South will form its own nation/nations.

My Igbo neighbour may not like this submission, but it is the bitter truth


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