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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:38am On Nov 03, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:



Lol help us ask him how old Messi was when he became the most crucial player at barca
No mind Hislop. The guy hates ManU. Its obvious from the things he says most times.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:40am On Nov 03, 2015
SailorXY:
I'm sure that person had one or two backers & they've disappeared like hot farts cuz even them dey shame for Rooney
No mind dem angry
Even their oga, ēlampiro neva show face for here. Shame don finally catch up to dem....

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:11am On Nov 03, 2015
Pataki:


I reject it! You know when an Arsenal gets injured, other players step up. Go and ask Flamini did to Tottenchickens. Go and ask what Campbell did to Swansea.

Heck, just wait and see what he will do to Robben aka pepeye tomorrow.

If you don't want me to invoke the injuries of Luke Shaw on Chris Smalling and Anthony Martial, becareful what you say about my players. Remember, I am the Sport Prophet on this manure board!
Which other players angry We all know Ozil's the backbone of Arsenal's defence. And Coquelin is d one who adds the backbone to ur midfield.

Besides u wishing for Rooney to stay fit is practically the same as me wishing Ozil gets injured. I think that's fair enough....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:17am On Nov 03, 2015
UniqueGem:
It seems every other manager around and football pundit knows whats wrong with Manchester United even when the manager in charge doesn't have clue.

With that, i think we already know who's holding us back, even under moyes, the players weren't this poor and safety cautious, moyes failed because he had a tactics that wasn't working. I remember Mata when he joined the Moyes squad, he'll run the length and breadth of the pitch tirelessly, pinging delightful passes upandan, with breath taking ball control, always pressing forward refusing to go down easily, cute nutmegs. But now what do we have? Everyone is just plying the safety route, "Maje ko baje lowo mi". Passing the ball around with no intensity, and no penetration.

It has gotten so bad i feel for Rooney and i'm beginning to think his poor form is because of this nonsense style, the Rooney i know loves the ball, he loves to get it and run with it, he loves to hold it and do something exceptional with it, but all that has left him. He is a shadow of himself, Rooneys kind of person does not like this soft style of play, he wants and loves it fast and fiesty. Picture yourself working in an organisation where all rules are against your working ethics and your nature, you will always look slow, sad and uninspiring. But what of an environment thats configured for your person, watch and see how well you perform there. Infact, Rooney might not be voicing it but i tell you the guy himself is tired and fed up like me. On saturday i went to my frnds place to see the match, we are both MU fans, we were just staring at the TV with frowns without saying a word because we agreed there was nothing to be said since LVG can't even hear us.

So my guys, instead of calling for Rooneys head, i think LVG needs to go, of all his crimes, the worst is that he doesn't listen to opinion. The man needs to go to his wife already.
LVG has always been the problem. 80% of the problem. The other 20% is Rooney.
The sooner we get rid of LVG, the better. That's why it annoys me knowing he has 1 more year on his contract. I thought it was initially 2
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:21am On Nov 03, 2015
Pataki:


I reject it! You know when an Arsenal gets injured, other players step up. Go and ask Flamini did to Tottenchickens. Go and ask what Campbell did to Swansea.

Heck, just wait and see what he will do to Robben aka pepeye tomorrow.

If you don't want me to invoke the injuries of Luke Shaw on Chris Smalling and Anthony Martial, becareful what you say about my players. Remember, I am the Sport Prophet on this manure board!

Not entirely true. Arsenal has lost steam a couple of times during the course of a season following injury to one or two players.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:30am On Nov 03, 2015
WHY VAN GAAL SHOULD LEAVE MAN UTD AT THE END OF THE SEASON

The Dutchman was brought in to arrest United's slide and has done exactly that, but he cannot be relied upon to take them to the next stage in the coming months.

While Louis van Gaal talks often of his impending retirement from football management in 2017, it might well be in everyone’s best interests to bring the end date forward by a year regardless of Manchester United’s trophy haul come the end of this season.

It is arguable that Van Gaal’s reign as United manager has been a success story to this point when placed in the context of the panic setting in before his arrival in England.

The failures of the David Moyes era left United needing a quick fix. When Sir Alex Ferguson finally ended his unparalleled 26-year spell at Old Trafford, the club had employed the wrong kind of character to keep them in the hunt for major honours and were left looking for a firefighter within a year.

In Van Gaal they found exactly the kind of man they required. They had money to throw at the problem and the backdrop of a disastrous season post-Ferguson. That all combined to ensure the Dutchman had backing in terms of both time and finances, and his return so far has been more than adequate.

Champions League football was demanded of him in his first season, and last year’s fourth-placed finish delivered the desired return to Europe’s top table. Now United are expected to challenge for trophies, and they have been within touching distance of the Premier League summit throughout the current campaign.

But over the last couple of weeks some cracks have begun to appear, bringing about painful flashbacks for followers of the 64-year-old’s career. In 2009, the former Barcelona coach was snapped up by Bayern Munich under similar circumstances to those which brought him to Old Trafford.

Jurgen Klinsmann’s eight-month stint at Sabener Strasse had been slapdash at best, with the former striker’s approach to training among other things leading to concerns from players and board members alike. Results helped to twist the knife, and his sacking led Bayern to look for an immediate bounce-back.

They got that with Van Gaal, who led them to a league and cup double in his first campaign with a Champions League final appearance added for good measure… all after a tough opening to the season. Yet in his sophomore year he couldn’t replicate the success, and his overbearing ways helped to force him out of the door.

While his decisions themselves were sometimes considered to be the right ones, the way in which he carried them out often caused consternation. Players didn’t take to his forthright, impersonal style, and while some – most notably Luca Toni – found relief elsewhere, others were left having to make the best of the situation. He also dropped experienced goalkeeper Hans-Jorg Butt in favour of 22-year-old Thomas Kraft with little or no warning for anyone at the club, including those who had stuck by him in his difficult first few months in charge.

By the spring, Bayern were out of the Champions League and in danger of failing to qualify for the following season’s edition. With Van Gaal’s philosophy now taking on a new face, the club was moved to act before he outstayed his welcome any further.

It all started getting messy when he dropped Butt and replaced him with Kraft,” said president Karl-Heinz Rummenigge in announcing Van Gaal’s departure. “That brought insecurity into the defence and we could not hold out for much longer.

“Football should be enjoyable, but there has been nothing enjoyable about football at FC Bayern for a while now. And to say that he had the players behind him was a myth.”


Director Uli Hoeness was even more scathing in 2013, blasting: “Louis van Gaal does not think that he is god, but the father of god. Even before the world started to exist, Louis was already there.”

Right now, Manchester United’s players continue to back Van Gaal publicly but their collective body language seems to be increasingly nervy and negative as his second season in charge wears on.

Meanwhile, the football itself has been anything but enjoyable for United’s fans. At Crystal Palace last weekend, there were choruses of “We’re Man United, we want to attack” as the Red Devils stretched their winless streak to four games amid a 325-minute goal famine. The current situation is fast feeling like a disappointing case of deja vu rather than the beginning of a new era of success.

Van Gaal insists he wants his side to play the more attractive style he has become familiar with over the years but admitted it is not easy to employ in the demanding environment that is English football.

We try to do that but I think the rhythm of the game in the Premier League is more difficult to develop that,” he told reporters on Monday. “You can see that every week, and not only with Manchester United but also with the other teams. Anybody can win or lose against anyone else. Maybe it is more difficult in the Premier League, I don’t know, but we are trying to do that and not only the players but also the manager and the staff.

“I think we are improving every day, and you can see that in the results we have made.”

In truth, results – and returns in front of goal – are beginning to belie Van Gaal’s assessment. And while the Dutchman repeatedly talks of sticking around until 2017, his job will surely be done either way this term.

The firefighter has fulfilled his role. He came in and repaired the Moyes mess, returning United to Europe and making them relevant in title talk once more. Was his appointment ever about building a new era? Surely the Van Gaal legacy was always going to be based on notable short-term gains more than any early foundations for the future.

Van Gaal spoke recently of the influence Ryan Giggs and Nicky Butt have had on promoting youth in the mind of the manager, and if the Dutchman’s claim that Giggs will replace him at the helm is anything to go by then they are the right men to be given the final say in the development of the club’s future talents.

It is the here and now that Van Gaal has been tasked with addressing, and the recovery job has been completed as far as it can be in the parameters set by the manager's so-called philosophy. Whether United finish first or fourth this term they are at least back in the reckoning, and a third campaign under a man who still isn’t sure whether his approach suits this league would be frivolous in the least.

Whatever the succession plan, whoever is truly lined up as the next manager of Manchester United, the move should be made in 2016. Next season should be about looking forward, not going sideways. Titles or not, the Van Gaal experiment has already run its course.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Pataki: 9:40am On Nov 03, 2015
Leyqute:


Not entirely true. Arsenal has lost steam a couple of times during the course of a season following injury to one or two players.

I agree but the trend seems to be changing. Debuchy was out, Bellerin stepped up. Flamini, Arteta all got injured, Le Coq grabbed his opportunity.

How many EPL teams can dare to have to key players like Arteta, Wilshere, Rosicky, Walcott, Oxlaide, Ramsey, Ospina, Welbeck out with injuries and still be a threat to any team this season?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 10:33am On Nov 03, 2015
sad
adeyemi2015:
WHY VAN GAAL SHOULD LEAVE MAN UTD AT THE END OF THE SEASON

The Dutchman was brought in to arrest United's slide and has done exactly that, but he cannot be relied upon to take them to the next stage in the coming months.

While Louis van Gaal talks often of his impending retirement from football management in 2017, it might well be in everyone’s best interests to bring the end date forward by a year regardless of Manchester United’s trophy haul come the end of this season.

It is arguable that Van Gaal’s reign as United manager has been a success story to this point when placed in the context of the panic setting in before his arrival in England.

The failures of the David Moyes era left United needing a quick fix. When Sir Alex Ferguson finally ended his unparalleled 26-year spell at Old Trafford, the club had employed the wrong kind of character to keep them in the hunt for major honours and were left looking for a firefighter within a year.

In Van Gaal they found exactly the kind of man they required. They had money to throw at the problem and the backdrop of a disastrous season post-Ferguson. That all combined to ensure the Dutchman had backing in terms of both time and finances, and his return so far has been more than adequate.

Champions League football was demanded of him in his first season, and last year’s fourth-placed finish delivered the desired return to Europe’s top table. Now United are expected to challenge for trophies, and they have been within touching distance of the Premier League summit throughout the current campaign.

But over the last couple of weeks some cracks have begun to appear, bringing about painful flashbacks for followers of the 64-year-old’s career. In 2009, the former Barcelona coach was snapped up by Bayern Munich under similar circumstances to those which brought him to Old Trafford.

Jurgen Klinsmann’s eight-month stint at Sabener Strasse had been slapdash at best, with the former striker’s approach to training among other things leading to concerns from players and board members alike. Results helped to twist the knife, and his sacking led Bayern to look for an immediate bounce-back.

They got that with Van Gaal, who led them to a league and cup double in his first campaign with a Champions League final appearance added for good measure… all after a tough opening to the season. Yet in his sophomore year he couldn’t replicate the success, and his overbearing ways helped to force him out of the door.

While his decisions themselves were sometimes considered to be the right ones, the way in which he carried them out often caused consternation. Players didn’t take to his forthright, impersonal style, and while some – most notably Luca Toni – found relief elsewhere, others were left having to make the best of the situation. He also dropped experienced goalkeeper Hans-Jorg Butt in favour of 22-year-old Thomas Kraft with little or no warning for anyone at the club, including those who had stuck by him in his difficult first few months in charge.

By the spring, Bayern were out of the Champions League and in danger of failing to qualify for the following season’s edition. With Van Gaal’s philosophy now taking on a new face, the club was moved to act before he outstayed his welcome any further.

It all started getting messy when he dropped Butt and replaced him with Kraft,” said president Karl-Heinz Rummenigge in announcing Van Gaal’s departure. “That brought insecurity into the defence and we could not hold out for much longer.

“Football should be enjoyable, but there has been nothing enjoyable about football at FC Bayern for a while now. And to say that he had the players behind him was a myth.”


Director Uli Hoeness was even more scathing in 2013, blasting: “Louis van Gaal does not think that he is god, but the father of god. Even before the world started to exist, Louis was already there.”

Right now, Manchester United’s players continue to back Van Gaal publicly but their collective body language seems to be increasingly nervy and negative as his second season in charge wears on.

Meanwhile, the football itself has been anything but enjoyable for United’s fans. At Crystal Palace last weekend, there were choruses of “We’re Man United, we want to attack” as the Red Devils stretched their winless streak to four games amid a 325-minute goal famine. The current situation is fast feeling like a disappointing case of deja vu rather than the beginning of a new era of success.

Van Gaal insists he wants his side to play the more attractive style he has become familiar with over the years but admitted it is not easy to employ in the demanding environment that is English football.

We try to do that but I think the rhythm of the game in the Premier League is more difficult to develop that,” he told reporters on Monday. “You can see that every week, and not only with Manchester United but also with the other teams. Anybody can win or lose against anyone else. Maybe it is more difficult in the Premier League, I don’t know, but we are trying to do that and not only the players but also the manager and the staff.

“I think we are improving every day, and you can see that in the results we have made.”

In truth, results – and returns in front of goal – are beginning to belie Van Gaal’s assessment. And while the Dutchman repeatedly talks of sticking around until 2017, his job will surely be done either way this term.

The firefighter has fulfilled his role. He came in and repaired the Moyes mess, returning United to Europe and making them relevant in title talk once more. Was his appointment ever about building a new era? Surely the Van Gaal legacy was always going to be based on notable short-term gains more than any early foundations for the future.

Van Gaal spoke recently of the influence Ryan Giggs and Nicky Butt have had on promoting youth in the mind of the manager, and if the Dutchman’s claim that Giggs will replace him at the helm is anything to go by then they are the right men to be given the final say in the development of the club’s future talents.

It is the here and now that Van Gaal has been tasked with addressing, and the recovery job has been completed as far as it can be in the parameters set by the manager's so-called philosophy. Whether United finish first or fourth this term they are at least back in the reckoning, and a third campaign under a man who still isn’t sure whether his approach suits this league would be frivolous in the least.

Whatever the succession plan, whoever is truly lined up as the next manager of Manchester United, the move should be made in 2016. Next season should be about looking forward, not going sideways. Titles or not, the Van Gaal experiment has already run its course.

This article was filled with so much bile that it had to be written by a hater? Anyway I don't see gaal leaving till the end of 2017. He has done a superb job in clearing out the deadwood from the squad, reducing the wage bill, stabilising the club while achieving the boards objectives handed to him!

His achilles heel has always been in his impersonal and confrontational style of working with/disciplining players! It inspires some and frustrates others and usually this is why he loses the dressing room and eventually his job @ clubs after a season or 2 of success! Although I think the bayern mess was also as a result of a clash of egos and personal beef between the men on the board and himself! And his bayern side played superb football in europe that season! Remember man vs bayern 2010 when they knocked us out? Rafaels red card? Watch it again!

I think he has learnt from this and so far with the exception of the "rooney debacle", everyone else he has dropped has also deserved it! Even so he is still publicly backing those players unlike before! Now his main problem is the football! Its wack and needs to change! If our style was slick and producing goalfests, I'm sure no one would have cared about rooneys form!

Lvg is a tool but is also a superb coach! i Iike his confidence and his lack of "big name bias" (except with rooney) and he has pointed us in the right direction @ least! Giggsy can also only benefit from having a man like this to use as a tactical template for his own future! Let's give this "tool" a chance, the season is still long, and I can see a shocking change in approach from lvg soon!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 11:00am On Nov 03, 2015
cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:03am On Nov 03, 2015
Pataki:

I agree but the trend seems to be changing. Debuchy was out, Bellerin stepped up. Flamini, Arteta all got injured, Le Coq grabbed his opportunity.

How many EPL teams can dare to have to key players like Arteta, Wilshere, Rosicky, Walcott, Oxlaide, Ramsey, Ospina, Welbeck out with injuries and still be a threat to any team this season?


A team that hasn't won the EPL in 10 years grin

Don't gloat. Injury or not, the result at the end of the season is all that matters. "We could've won" can never be interpreted as "we won"

However, nice injury management. You've got lots to show for it. wink
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:03am On Nov 03, 2015
Odunharry:
cheesy

where's chelsea?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:14am On Nov 03, 2015
coogar:


where's chelsea?
If we keep scrolling down, we should find them somewhere on the list
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:15am On Nov 03, 2015
coogar:


where's chelsea?

AdeLaNa1:
If we keep scrolling down, we should find them somewhere on the list

Chelsea is relaxing down there. They're hovering near the relegation zone, digging for oyeL
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joeace3000(m): 12:17pm On Nov 03, 2015
United fans all over the world are boiling with rage... l almost fainted laughing at this comment on dailymail



"Heed my words Van Gaal. For while making history does indeed take time, making a plane banner doesn't."

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:27pm On Nov 03, 2015
ollah1:


he wasn't a kid


Martial is 19 years old now, how old was Messi when he won UEFA footballer of the year?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 12:34pm On Nov 03, 2015
Dadehmola:
SVEN ULREICH wey una thief from Stuttgart (a supposed title rival nko)?

P.S : A rival's 1st choice goalie was bought to serve as backup to Neuer.

The bundesliga is finished!! grin

Btw, nibo lo wa gangan, iwo oniro oshi yi. angry

WHat rival is Stuttgart to us?

Have you explained to us the number of ex EPL players in your Man utd team? Starting from Valencia, Jones, SMalling, Shaw, Carrick, Young Mata Rooney, Fellaini, Schneiderlin you poached from your rivals

You now see why EPL is a useless league
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 12:36pm On Nov 03, 2015
Joeace3000:


All that just for welcome.. suspicious

She worth am na. Or you wan make she dey lonely for US ni? And you know say winter dey come soon
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 12:37pm On Nov 03, 2015
Joeace3000:


Once dortmund grooms a player to become a Lewandoski or Gotze, bayern pounce like a lover waiting for the husband to leave his wife home. What bayern wants, they get. The only European team that can't take their eyes off their rival players

Have you explained to us the number of ex EPL players in your Man utd team? Starting from Valencia, Jones, SMalling, Shaw, Carrick, Young Mata Rooney, Fellaini, Schneiderlin you poached from your rivals

Or how many players DOrtmund steals from other teams in the league
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:47pm On Nov 03, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:



Martial is 19 years old now, how old was Messi when he won UEFA footballer of the year?

Google is your friend. Barca never depended on a teenager to move them forward. NEVER
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:51pm On Nov 03, 2015
ollah1:


Google is your friend. Barca never depended on a teenager to move them forward. NEVER



You were the one who said Messi wasn't a kid and going by your comments,I can tell you believe Martial is a kid.Its not about who they depended on,Messi was the best player in the Barca squad at 19 and i don't think its safe to say Man U are depending on Martial.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:01pm On Nov 03, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:




You were the one who said Messi wasn't a kid and going by your comments,I can tell you believe Martial is a kid.Its not about who they depended on,[b]Messi was the best player in the Barca squad at 19.[/b]

You are really funny, so messi was barca's best player in 2006-2007?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:09pm On Nov 03, 2015
ollah1:


You are really funny, so messi was barca's best player in 2006-2007?



Can you please tell us who was Barca's best player when Messi was 19? and why 06/07, why not 07-08?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:13pm On Nov 03, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:




Can you please tell us who was Barca's best player when Messi was 19? and why 06/07, why not 07-08?

You should know that and if going by your latter, then he was 20. He wasn't the best in Barca's squad in 06/07
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 1:18pm On Nov 03, 2015
coogar:
where's chelsea?
still drilling the ground for oil..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:31pm On Nov 03, 2015
ollah1:


You should know that and if going by your latter, then he was 20. He wasn't the best in Barca's squad in 06/07

grin cheesy cheesy Maan you're just trying to stretch this argument uneccesarily.Messi has been Barca's best player since 06.Ronaldinho lost his mojo in Mid 06 and Messi took over.Ronaldinho didn't do much for Barca in 06.The reason why he made the FIFA world player list is beacuse he tried at the World cup and some people even took issues with his presence on that list.Messi was clearly Barca's best player that year and him being the runner-up in 2007 is a testament to the fact that he was the best player the previous year
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:43pm On Nov 03, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:


grin cheesy cheesy Maan you're just trying to stretch this argument uneccesarily.Messi had been Barca's best player since 06.Ronaldinho lost his mojo in Mid 06 and Messi took over.Ronaldinho didn't do much for Barca in 06.The reason why he made the FIFA world player list is beacuse he tried at the World cup and some people even took issues with his presence on that list.Messi was Barca's best player that year and him being the runner-up in 2007 is a proof he must have been the best in the previous year

He was a force, he had prospect but he wasn't the best in the team then.. Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Xavi, Eto were still firing cylinders.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:43pm On Nov 03, 2015
Odunharry:

still drilling the ground for oil..
C'mon! don't you follow business news? Chelsea Crude just dethroned the popular London Brent as top gainers this morning.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:48pm On Nov 03, 2015
ollah1:


He was a force, he had prospect but he wasn't the best in the team then.. Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Xavi, Eto were still firing cylinders.





Okay Sir!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Zaha(m): 1:57pm On Nov 03, 2015
source: lindaikejiblog

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 4:16pm On Nov 03, 2015
Reyginus:
C'mon! don't you follow business news? Chelsea Crude just dethroned the popular London Brent as top gainers this morning.
really? time to invest
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iheanyi40(m): 4:22pm On Nov 03, 2015
Make em wife no open leg 4 am until he scores hatrick?, some people bad mouth no b here atall grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 4:26pm On Nov 03, 2015
iheanyi40:
Make em wife no open leg 4 am until he scores hatrick?, some people bad mouth no b here atall grin
lol.. you no see when person dey ask if he finishes in bed..

people mk don Menta plenty

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