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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 11:09pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
scholes0: But I can give you a million original hausa words similar to that. And did you not say you modified it to suit your tongue because the original word isnt compatible with your language? Smh |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by scholes0(m): 11:10pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
Phut: Akamu Exists in both Languages, as I have just discovered. Same as Egidi/Agidi. https://books.google.ca/books?id=OiynbBvMblcC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=Akamu+Yoruba+igbo&source=bl&ots=m60pxe8hgw&sig=LulHIZcjrPGSU9nMsPOa9aLNfjw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCsQ6AEwA2oVChMIyYjNkqb6yAIViRkeCh2bOQP5#v=onepage&q=Akamu%20Yoruba%20igbo&f=false |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by scholes0(m): 11:11pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
VoslerGrimsbane: You gave me a million Hausa words similar to "Wahla"? Please where was that? |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 11:15pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
scholes0: Another thread that exposes your deceit. https://www.nairaland.com/1000371/word-wahala-it-yorubahausa-ibo I said I can. And I will, give me a minute to put it all together |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Phut(f): 11:15pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
scholes0: Why did you claim earlier that Akamu is Yoruba word for pap? Akamu = Pap in Igbo Ogi is Pap in Yoruba. You know this and yet chose to misinform people. This is how Language theft starts. 20 years from now, your children and my children will now be on the Internet arguing about the origin of Akamu 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by scholes0(m): 11:20pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
Phut: Both Akamu, Eko and Ogi mean the same thing (Pap) Yoruba. The Usage of Ogi is more Popular, as that is Central Yoruba (CY) The Yoruba etymology for Akamu is from "Oka" which means Corn, and "Mu" which means to drink. I know, because right among the grannies in my village, it is called Akamu. And these people haven't been exposed to any people but Yorubas. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 11:22pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
Akamu is also used in Hausa as well. Though I am clueless as to its origins. I know it's definitely not ours, it's not our food. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by scholes0(m): 11:22pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
VoslerGrimsbane: You said it yourself earlier, that Hausas borrowed Wahala from Arabic. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 11:23pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
scholes0: I'm not denying it. We borrowed wahl. What did you borrow, wahl or wahala? |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by frankcris(m): 11:24pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
funmijoyb: onye ara na akpo onye ara ibe ya onye ara na ebe ha na apu ara... 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by pazienza(m): 11:25pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
Onijagidijagan: Ndiigbo are versatile and business oriented people, once an Igbo man settles in a place, he strives to learn the language of the people and assimilate into the local environment, he wants the locals to see him as one of them, to enable him get more patronage from them in his business. My mother was born in Kano, both she and her other siblings were raised in the North, and they all speak flawless Kano Hausa with all the accent that comes with it, till today. It's the same for Igbos who reside in Edo or Yorubaland, or even any part of the world. They learn to be fluent with the local language for business and safety purposes. Only Igbos who stay in Yorubaland learn and speak Yoruba, just as those in the North learn and speak Hausa. Those of us in the SE find Yoruba language too raw and harsh to the ears, and wouldn't want to learn it for anything at all. 10 Likes |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by scholes0(m): 11:27pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
VoslerGrimsbane: Good! That is a step in the right direction. Now, are you implying that Since Hausas borrowed it from Arabic, the Yoruba usage MUST have had to come from Hausa? Because Yoruba has a lot of words borrowed from Arabic as well. I gave you the usage the example of Camel (Rakunmi), a word Yorubas borrowed from HAUSA. The Arabic word for Camel is something entirely different. While there are others like WAHALA (Trouble) from Arabic "Wahla", and ABERE (Needle) from Arabic "Abra" . which Yorubas borrowed directly from Arabic. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 11:34pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
Arabic-basl hausa Albasa Yoruba Alubosa Arabic-naf hausa Amfani Yoruba Anfani Arabic fatil hausa fitila Yoruba fitila Arabic sir hausa asiri Yoruba asiri ![]() Scholes0 care to elaborate? |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by scholes0(m): 11:38pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
VoslerGrimsbane: MANY MANY language groups in West Africa, for example the Wolofs and Mandes call Onion Al-basa ... from Arabic Call lamp Pitirla or Fitila, from Arabic, call secret Asiri, from the same Arabic..... You think All of West Africa copied these words from Hausa? lol 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 11:45pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
scholes0: It's possible. We were pretty awesome back in those days, we still are. Wolofs and mandes are Fulbe (Fulani) clans or closely related to them are they not? Meanwhile, how will you explain any other African language other than hausa influencing your language. Getting to them means going through hausa states, I dont think hausas have had any proper contact with yoruba's before the 19th century. Please, just please.... Admit the truth. Again I have no problem with you using it, but don't you dare claim precedence over it, just as Igbos don't own these words, neither do you. |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by scholes0(m): 11:47pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
VoslerGrimsbane: The same way Yorubas had contact with Wangaras (Soninke traders), and Fulanis without Hausas being in the picture at the time. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 11:56pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
scholes0: Loooool! Who told you the hausas weren't in the picture? When did this contact occur? Smh. But we're not talking about the soninkes now are we. Is there any language similarities between you and them? |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by scholes0(m): 12:03am On Nov 06, 2015 |
VoslerGrimsbane: Yorubas border the Borgu (Baribas) of West Central Nigeria (Western Kwara and Northern Benin) - This area was under the Dendi kingdom of the Songhais, and that was where the Wangaras came in into Old Oyo. You seem to think Hausaland is the only way Yorubas could have had contact with Arabs or Northern Africa... Wrong. Feeling sleepy already, come back tomorrow. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 12:14am On Nov 06, 2015 |
scholes0: It's morning here. Please I need to know more about this Wangara contact. Btw, Wangaras are Africans. And my point wasn't about Arabs. You suggested other African languages. All of whom you have no history with. My point is how did they influence your language? I can't believe I'm engaging such stupidity Bye. |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by kaura5000: 12:46am On Nov 06, 2015 |
VoslerGrimsbane:guy hausas have had contact with pretty much of the sahelian tribes from soninke,wolof,etc as early as 11 ,or ,12 century... |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by kaura5000: 12:48am On Nov 06, 2015 |
And also since you guys claimed hausa and yoruba copied the word from arabic.. so that means the first person that had contact with arabs spread it all over.. and I dont need to tell you who had the contact first 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by kaura5000: 12:49am On Nov 06, 2015 |
Hardship or problem in arabic is not wahala.. wahala is not yoruba word but hausa |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by kaura5000: 12:56am On Nov 06, 2015 |
Al miskila is the word for trouble in arabic... wahala is not the word for trouble in arabic... because I can't borrow a word and use it differently for other objects |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by kaura5000: 1:33am On Nov 06, 2015 |
Some yoruba words borrowed from hausa Wahala trouble hardship Laifi fault Massalaci mosque Rakumi camel Gabas east Kudu or gusu south Alafia or lafia peace Dede or daidai equally and many more |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by bigfrancis21: 4:44am On Nov 06, 2015 |
scholes0: Akamu is an Igbo word for pap. The Yorubas call it 'eko'. In your thinking, you would also claim okro as Yoruba because it is popular all over Nigeria, forgetting that the Yoruba native name is 'ila asepo' or something like that. Ogbono, Egwusi, Okwuru (mis-spelt as okro in English), Agidi etc are all Igbo words. 8 Likes |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by bigfrancis21: 4:53am On Nov 06, 2015 |
scholes0: Corn in Igbo language is 'oka'. Isn't corn in Yoruba supposed to be 'agbado' or something? Why are you suddenly ignoring the central yoruba words for these items, which are supposed to be the standard Yoruba words for those items, and claiming the Igbo words as yours? Please, akamu is not a Yoruba word. Stop this language theft. Agidi also is not Yoruba. In Igboland, there are 2 different types of Agidi, the white agidi and the reddish type called Agidi Jollof. I never liked Agidi for one day but I grew up hearing my grandmothers refer to it as only Agidi. Igbos have just one word for Agidi and Akamu, Yorubas have multiple of them indicating a borrowing of these words into the language. Just as they borrowed wahala from Arabic. Languages often borrow from one another and your people may have borrowed the word from the popular Nigerian usage which comes from Igbo. Do not let me school you on the seniority of the Igbo civilization over the Yoruba civilization. Because if I am ready, it will take up the entire next 3 pages of this thread. Yorubas cannot even provide proof that these words are theirs. Most popular soups and food in Nigeria today are all of Igbo origin: Ogbono, Egwusi, Okwuru, Ora, Okazi, Utazi etc. Or maybe you'll tell me that 'love wan tin tin' (from love nwa nti nti in Igbo) in some Yorubas songs nowadays is Yoruba too? ![]() 7 Likes |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Nobody: 7:47am On Nov 06, 2015 |
pazienza:is too hash but is d language ur tribe speaks most in Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by Tiwa101: 7:57am On Nov 06, 2015 |
This is the problem with Nigeria.... Tribalistic issues that do not make sense. Really Nigeria needs to tackle this issue first before any other like corruption and the rest. This is slowly eating us up! I taya sha. Abeg one house.. No hating. Let us learn to love ourselves. Una doh. |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by agadez007(m): 10:06am On Nov 06, 2015 |
funmijoyb:idiotic fool Oyinbo is yolubu while oyibo is igbo, igbos from anambra enugu delta igbos will say oyibo while imo and Abia States will say bekee I havent even hear igbos saying akata or ogbeni is igbo For asawo we have akwuna, in fact you are an slowpoke There are thousands of igbo words used in pidgin but we don't see igbos shouting eg tey which is used in pidgin like guy e Don tey oo Even Chai, gbam, owu Etc Typing from Android phone hard o, chai 10 Likes |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by iameugene(m): 12:42pm On Nov 06, 2015 |
As far as im concerned, google and my iPhone dic proved dis... Proud Yoruba bwoi ![]() 1 Like
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Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by macof(m): 2:57pm On Nov 06, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:No lies, no bigotry Probably the smartest thing you've posted on nairaland. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Igbo People Claim Yoruba Words To Be Theirs? by macof(m): 3:03pm On Nov 06, 2015 |
Drchristian: Whether it's arabic or not. . Hausa speakers or maybe Songhai introduced the word to Yoruba traders There's no shame in borrowing some words from other languages, it infact proves how big your contact with the world is 4 Likes |
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