VoslerGrimsbane:
Akamu is also used in Hausa as well. Though I am clueless as to its origins. I know it's definitely not ours, it's not our food.

I thought it's called koko in hausa

VoslerGrimsbane:
Arabic-basl hausa Albasa Yoruba Alubosa


Arabic-naf hausa Amfani Yoruba Anfani


Arabic fatil hausa fitila Yoruba fitila

Arabic sir hausa asiri Yoruba asiri




Scholes0 care to elaborate?

I just don't believe "Asiri" as yoruba say it came from another language.

scholes0:
This Nwalencha is just arguing blindly....
lol... so these people have rilly been made to believe these words are Igbo? Eehya.

Next will be "Nkor, Kpatakpata, Jare, Shebi, Gbedu, Bam-bam, Abi, Gbadun, Lekpa, Shey, Omo, Kpangolo, Joor, and a ton of others.
Onijagidijagan, just wait in 10 more years, they will say these words are theirs.

Oh no, I am Igbo but those words you posted didn't mean anything at all maybe to the igbos in your enclave but for us in the east, they are meaningless. Just a bunch of Yoruba Lingo's known in the southwest.


You guys need to travel out of your comfort zone instead of making up meaningless assumptions based on what you seeon the internet. Gush.

kaura5000:
Some yoruba words borrowed from hausa
Wahala trouble hardship
Laifi fault
Massalaci mosque
Rakumi camel
Gabas east
Kudu or gusu south
Alafia or lafia peace
Dede or daidai equally and many more

I've never heard laifi, gabas or daidai used in yoruba. "bebe lo" is many more, "Ila oorun" is east

bigfrancis21:


Corn in Igbo language is 'oka'. Isn't corn in Yoruba supposed to be 'agbado' or something? Why are you suddenly ignoring the central yoruba words for these items, which are supposed to be the standard Yoruba words for those items, and claiming the Igbo words as yours?

Please, akamu is not a Yoruba word. Stop this language theft. Agidi also is not Yoruba. In Igboland, there are 2 different types of Agidi, the white agidi and the reddish type called Agidi Jollof. I never liked Agidi for one day but I grew up hearing my grandmothers refer to it as only Agidi. Igbos have just one word for Agidi and Akamu, Yorubas have multiple of them indicating a borrowing of these words into the language. Just as they borrowed wahala from Arabic. Languages often borrow from one another and your people may have borrowed the word from the popular Nigerian usage which comes from Igbo.

Do not let me school you on the seniority of the Igbo civilization over the Yoruba civilization. Because if I am ready, it will take up the entire next 3 pages of this thread.

Yorubas cannot even provide proof that these words are theirs. Most popular soups and food in Nigeria today are all of Igbo origin: Ogbono, Egwusi, Okwuru, Ora, Okazi, Utazi etc.

Or maybe you'll tell me that 'love wan tin tin' (from love nwa nti nti in Igbo) in some Yorubas songs nowadays is Yoruba too?

Oka is also used in yoruba. I've never heard Agidi used as pap in yoruba. agidi is force(ful) or tough

Ehn, Tintin means small in yoruba. . Tinrin is slim so don't conclude just yet

Phut:


You are guilty of what you accuse Igbo's. It seems once a word from any of the native languages becomes part of mainstream pidgin, you turn and claim it to be Yoruba.
Kaura5000 and VodlerGrimsbane have already schooled you on Wahala being a Hausa word.

Another is Oga/Ogaranya which a 100 % Igbo word and not Yoruba. Oga/Ogaranya = Rich man/Boss in Igbo. Go ask your elders the Yoruba word for Boss because it sure ain't Oga


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig97XJv8iRQ?t=1s

BTW, I just saw "Mama" on your list. You must be a joker

Oga from the same root of "Iga" meaning fortress or palace. .. Oga would be a strong man

Onijagidijagan:

What is this one saying? u r full of bigots.
firstly u said more igbos r in d North than S.West(only a fool frm d bush our someone outside Nigeria will say such).
D yoruba people speaking ibos r very few compare to d ibos speaking in yoruba. they find it easier than other languages.

Do u knw after English, pidgin Yoruba is d next language in Nigeria?

Ma[b]mmoth population of Hausa, Fulani, Igala, Itsekiri,Binis speaks it often.but d igbo people speak it more than any other tribes in Nigeria. each state in South west has atleast 3million igbo and most of them speak igbo language.

For example, my church English to yoruba 8nterpreter/translator is an igbo woman.

Ondo-state Yoruba news casters Radio and TV are all Igbos also, igbos are Yoruba lecturers in Universities in USA and UK.
[/b]

Your arguments lack bases premises and conclusions.
The bolded means what exactly That Igbos in southwest are pushing Yoruba's aside or what?

Enough of all these armchair propaganda. Seeing Igbos in Yorubaland does not mean that all Igbos are in Southwest or are conversant with the language and culture.

The large number of Igbos in the northern part of Nigeria cannot be compared with those in the southwestern part, the decrease was as a result of the rise of insurgency in the north.

macof:


I thought it's called koko in hausa

Two different things.

funmijoyb:
Yeeeebos must u focefully attached to other people's culture and hate yours?

Here are the words igbo writers claims is theirs all over the internet:

1.Oyinbo or Oyibo; Peeled skin or white Animals
2. Akata; Wild, Sturborn, black American or Nigerian American
3.Ogbeni Mr Man
4.Ashewo, asewo or Ashawo.
5.Wahala Problem
6.Abi; "Question mark"
7.Shebi; is it?
8.Pele; please
9.Omo; Child
10.Oja; Market
11.Shey is it?
12.Mumu
13, Ode

More

To be honest, most of these words you've mentioned are used in Pidgin English and not in Igbo language. Some of these words you've mentioned are barely even used in pidgin English: words like oja for market. When speaking Igbo, Igbos have their equivalent for these words. And Oyibo should not be on your list. You are claiming an Igbo word, a word used by the Igbos since 1700s or before and well-documented, as Yoruba.

To educate you:

1.Oyinbo Igbo: Oyibo
2. Akata Igbo: Akata
3.Ogbeni Igbo: Nwoke m
4.Ashewo Igbo: Akwuna
5.Wahala Igbo: Nsogbu
6.Abi Igbo: Okwia
7.Shebi Igbo: Okwia
8.Pele; Igbo: Ndo
9.Omo; Igbo: Nwa
10.Oja; Igbo: Afia/Ahia
11.Shey Igbo: Gboo?
12.Mumu Igbo: Onye Nzuzu
13, Ode Igbo: Onuku

A possible origin of Akata in Igbo: Igbos often refer to someone who is rough, tough/stubborn or tough body resulting from maturity as 'onye katalu aru', most likely giving birth to 'akata'. You see a more similar meaning between akata Igbo and the general conception of African Americans as quite strong-headed or tough people.

macof:


Oka is also used in yoruba. I've never heard Agidi used as pap in yoruba. agidi is force(ful) or tough

Ehn, Tintin means small in yoruba. . Tinrin is slim so don't conclude just yet

That was a mistake. I meant 'akamu' for pap in Igbo, and I have corrected my post.

Small in Igbo has several words: obele, nwobele, nwantinti, nwantii, nwantakili, mpe etc. Love Nwantinti is from a popular Igbo long song, Love Nwantinti, of old (80s or so) that I grew up hearing as a child: 'Love Nwantinti Love Nwantinti, Ije mu na love bu na o fodulu nwantinti'.

'tini tini' could also mean small in Yoruba but 'LOve nwantinti' proper as a phrase is of Igbo origin. 'Love wan tin tin' in Yoruba usage is only of usage after the phrase became popular in Nigerian usage. The Igbo evidence is even apparent in the nwa/wan in 'love wan tin tin'. Obodo oyibo is a common Igbo phrase commonly used in Nigerian lingo or pidgin English.

frankcris:


onye ara na akpo onye ara ibe ya onye ara na ebe ha na apu ara...

Onye arra nākpo onye arra ibe ya onye arra naebe na ha nāpu arra

This is standard modern Igbo

LadyFiona:
Your arguments lack bases premises and conclusions.
The bolded means what exactly That Igbos in southwest are pushing Yoruba's aside or what?

Enough of all these armchair propaganda. Seeing Igbos in Yorubaland does not mean that all Igbos are in Southwest or are conversant with the language and culture.

The large number of Igbos in the northern part of Nigeria cannot be compared with those in the southwestern part, the decrease was as a result of the rise of insurgency in the north.

Thunder fire ur head for this stupid statement, na lagoon u go die.

60% of igbos are in d south west and we want them to leave. have been to d north, aside Kaduna and Abuja igbos are not many there.

All yoruba land is totally filled with igbos #fact

bigfrancis21:


To be honest, most of these words you've mentioned are used in Pidgin English and not in Igbo language. Some of these words you've mentioned are barely even used in pidgin English: words like oja for market. When speaking Igbo, Igbos have their equivalent for these words. And Oyibo should not be on your list. You are claiming an Igbo word, a word used by the Igbos since 1700s or before and well-documented, as Yoruba.

To educate you:

1.Oyinbo Igbo: Oyibo
2. Akata Igbo: Akata
3.Ogbeni Igbo: Nwoke m
4.Ashewo Igbo: Akwuna
5.Wahala Igbo: Nsogbu
6.Abi Igbo: Okwia
7.Shebi Igbo: Okwia
8.Pele; Igbo: Ndo
9.Omo; Igbo: Nwa
10.Oja; Igbo: Afia/Ahia
11.Shey Igbo: Gboo?
12.Mumu Igbo: Onye Nzuzu
13, Ode Igbo: Onuku

A possible origin of Akata in Igbo: Igbos often refer to someone who is rough, tough/stubborn or tough body resulting from maturity as 'onye katalu aru', most likely giving birth to 'akata'. You see a more similar meaning between akata Igbo and the general conception of African Americans as quite strong-headed or tough people.

Since d birth of d first albino in yorubaland, Oyinbo has been used to desicribe them. you are foolish if u claim oyinbo/oyibo and Akata are igbo words for any reason.

Akata is a wild cat and Olongbo is d domestic cat.
your claims are not geniune.

it has direct meaning in our language for gosh sake.
yorubas documents their words way better than igbo does.

1.That's why ur people claims Lagos, Ibadan and Akure are Igboland. which brought all d problems u r facing today.
2. Also claiming ikweres, Ijaw, Itsekiris are all igbo because of crude oil

Claiming everything, you igbos are funny thiefs. This words are not yours.

bigfrancis21:


That was a mistake. I meant 'akamu' for pap in Igbo, and I have corrected my post.

Small in Igbo has several words: obele, nwobele, nwantinti, nwantii, nwantakili, mpe etc. Love Nwantinti is from a popular Igbo long song, Love Nwantinti, of old (80s or so) that I grew up hearing as a child: 'Love Nwantinti Love Nwantinti, Ije mu na love bu na o fodulu nwantinti'.

'tini tini' could also mean small in Yoruba but 'LOve nwantinti' proper as a phrase is of Igbo origin. 'Love wan tin tin' in Yoruba usage is only of usage after the phrase became popular in Nigerian usage. The Igbo evidence is even apparent in the nwa/wan in 'love wan tin tin'. Obodo oyibo is a common Igbo phrase commonly used in Nigerian lingo or pidgin English.

Well, it's obvious "love wan tin tin" comes from the proper igbo words you've given. As to yoruba usage. . I've never seen a yoruba sing that

All languages in nigeria contribute some words to pidgin english it's no cause for argument

Onijagidijagan:


Since d birth of d first albino in yorubaland, Oyinbo has been used to desicribe them. you are foolish if u claim oyinbo/oyibo and Akata are igbo words for any reason.

Akata is a wild cat and Olongbo is d domestic cat.
your claims are not geniune.

it has direct meaning in our language for gosh sake.
yorubas documents their words way better than igbo does.

1.That's why ur people claims Lagos, Ibadan and Akure are Igboland. which brought all d problems u r facing today.
2. Also claiming ikweres, Ijaw, Itsekiris are all igbo because of crude oil

Claiming everything, you igbos are funny thiefs. This words are not yours.

Since when did Oyinbo become the word for albino? What happened to "afin" ?

cheruv:

Onye arra nākpo onye arra ibe ya onye arra naebe na ha nāpu arra

This is standard modern Igbo

arra or ara...na d same thing but yours sound more like breast...

Onijagidijagan:


Since d birth of d first albino in yorubaland, Oyinbo has been used to desicribe them. you are foolish if u claim oyinbo/oyibo and Akata are igbo words for any reason.

Akata is a wild cat and Olongbo is d domestic cat.
your claims are not geniune.

it has direct meaning in our language for gosh sake.
yorubas documents their words way better than igbo does.

1.That's why ur people claims Lagos, Ibadan and Akure are Igboland. which brought all d problems u r facing today.
2. Also claiming ikweres, Ijaw, Itsekiris are all igbo because of crude oil

Claiming everything, you igbos are funny thiefs. This words are not yours.

Lol. No Igbo person would claim Ibadan and Akure as Igboland. In fact, I have never seen that happen before. Ikwerres are an Igbo group, they called themselves Igbo and it is only after the civil war that the denial started mainly due to oil politics. Igbos have never claimed Ijaws or Itsekiris, those are two distinct groups from the Igbos.

I mentioned previously that Oyibo is Igbo and Oyinbo is Yoruba just as Gini is to Igbo and Kini is to Yoruba. You can claim Oyinbo, which is Yoruba pronunciation but do not claim Oyibo. Just because gini and kini sound alike and mean the same thing doesn't mean you will claim kini and gini as yoruba words. In Igboland, so many people bear Oyibo as name, my grandmother being an example. Oyibo is a popular word all over southern Nigeria, only the Yorubas call it 'oyinbo'.

Never be too sure that Yorubas have been using the word since time immemorial just because you were born into a time when it was already being used does not mean that it was used last century or 2 centuries before. Documented evidence exists that shows the Igbo usage of Oyibo in an interior village in Igboland at about the 1700s (Olaudah Ikwuano, an ex-Igbo slave and the first Igbo and Nigerian to publish a book).

[quote author=Onijagidijagan post=39747932]
Thunder fire ur head for this stupid statement, na lagoon u go die.

60% of igbos are in d south west and we want them to leave. have been to d north, aside Kaduna and Abuja igbos are not many there.

All yoruba land is totally filled with igbos #fact[/quote.

Onijagidijagan:

Thunder fire ur head for this stupid statement, na lagoon u go die.

60% of igbos are in d south west and we want them to leave. have been to d north, aside Kaduna and Abuja igbos are not many there.

All yoruba land is totally filled with igbos #fact

Oh sorry, didn't know I was quoting a minion.

Enjoy your fallacies.

macof:


Since when did Oyinbo become the word for albino? What happened to "afin" ?

Afin is an insult. it can be used to abuse anyone. call Oyinbo aafin he will be annoyed

macof:


I just don't believe "Asiri" as yoruba say it came from another language.

If the original Arabic word is assir, it's a common hausa practice to add the word "I" when adopting Arabic words.

macof:


Oka is also used in yoruba. I've never heard Agidi used as pap in yoruba. agidi is force(ful) or tough

Ehn, Tintin means small in yoruba. . Tinrin is slim so don't conclude just yet

The Tintin is borrowed from Igbo (Love Nwantinti) and that is a fact

Nelly Uchendu sang a song Love Nwa nti nti. This was a while back. It was a hit nation wide and Love nwa nti nti (small small love/Infatuation) became part of mainstream pidgin. Since then, countless artiste's have sang about it ; Omawumi (of recent), Obiwon, Sam Cole, Casandra to name just a few.

Some Yoruba's (maybe because of accent) have a habit of putting an "n" at the end of a word
if you tell Ebonyi state, they will spell it as Ebonyin (put an 'N' at the end)
Bigfrancis21 described it as nasalization of words in some other threads. Well, it is the same thing that is happening here. You say Love nwa nti nti, they hear Love nwa tin tin. Heck, some even pronounce/write the nwa as wan (moving the n to the end of the word), resulting in wan tin tin (an even bigger corruption of the original phrase).

If people are going to appropriate a word, they should be ready to give credit where credit is due. Otherwise it becomes Language theft. But like I have been saying in this thread, once it becomes mainstream pidgin, some Yoruba's claim it as Yoruba, which is wrong

Op, i'm sorry to say but you are high on lizard excreta! Is it that you get an organsm whenever you mention the word Igbo? I can't seem to place this your obsession.

The same way you people are claiming
Ugu- pumpkin
Omugwo
Love nwa nti nti
Gbam- for emphasis
Hia- an exclamation

nwanlecha:
Oga, akara, akamu, ogbono, egusi, agidi, oyibo, are all Igbo words. The three major ethnic groups have contributed greatly to the evolution of Pidgin English in Nigeria. The claim made by the OP is simply laughable.

Rubbish.

Oga, egusi , Akara are Yoruba words. OP Please also add moiin moin , eba, shay, shebi , Aso Ebi, Ogi to the list before they appropriate those ones too

Uhhh! I don't know why i always follow a discussion when the thread has already been concluded. Anyway,the OP is just being delusional. No igbo person claims those yoruba words to be Igbo. But come to think of it, Igbos based in the East have no knowledge of most of those words in the Op's list. Those of us that were born and bred in the East find Yoruba rather harsh and unappealing,that is the genesis of the N-gbati reference of yoruba language. By now,you should know that only igbos that travel out pick yoruba and hausa languages for survival and business reasons. There are igbo equivalents of those words in Igboland. By the way, just like my people have said,words like Egusi, Oyibo, Okro, Ugu, Akamu etc all Igbo words. Or do you want to forcefully adopt them? Lol.

Onijagidijagan:


Since d birth of d first albino in yorubaland, Oyinbo has been used to desicribe them. you are foolish if u claim oyinbo/oyibo and Akata are igbo words for any reason.

Akata is a wild cat and Olongbo is d domestic cat.
your claims are not geniune.

it has direct meaning in our language for gosh sake.
yorubas documents their words way better than igbo does.

1.That's why ur people claims Lagos, Ibadan and Akure are Igboland. which brought all d problems u r facing today.
2. Also claiming ikweres, Ijaw, Itsekiris are all igbo because of crude oil

Claiming everything, you igbos are funny thiefs. This words are not yours.

Why insult someone who has a contrary opinion? Is the aim of the thread of the thread to insult people or to educate them?

OMG! Did Op just say that Mama is a Yoruba word?

Ihuomadinihu:
OMG! Did Op just say that Mama is a Yoruba word?

Yeah, he said that .
We call moi moi...elele
Only knew garrison is EBA when I travelled to Lagos. Now it is mainstream according to untravelled Yoruba's on this thread, what the heck.!!!!

LadyFiona:
Yeah, he said that .
We call moi moi...elele
Only knew garrison is EBA when I travelled to Lagos. Now it is mainstream according to untravelled Yoruba's on this thread, what the heck.!!!!

I'm talking about ''Mama''. Not eleye or whatever.

vfactor:



Why insult someone who has a contrary opinion? Is the aim of the thread of the thread to insult people or to educate them?

Not an insult bro. is foolishness if i say d word Chukwu, Chineke is a yiruba word.

is foolishness when igbo says they own Nollywood in Lagos.

is foolishness when igbo claims d three most famous yoruba words as theirs; Ashawo/asewo Akata, Oyibo/Oyinbo, Wahala e.t.c

bigfrancis21:


Lol. No Igbo person would claim Ibadan and Akure as Igboland. In fact, I have never seen that happen before. Ikwerres are an Igbo group, they called themselves Igbo and it is only after the civil war that the denial started mainly due to oil politics. Igbos have never claimed Ijaws or Itsekiris, those are two distinct groups from the Igbos.

I mentioned previously that Oyibo is Igbo and Oyinbo is Yoruba just as Gini is to Igbo and Kini is to Yoruba. You can claim Oyinbo, which is Yoruba pronunciation but do not claim Oyibo. Just because gini and kini sound alike and mean the same thing doesn't mean you will claim kini and gini as yoruba words. In Igboland, so many people bear Oyibo as name, my grandmother being an example. Oyibo is a popular word all over southern Nigeria, only the Yorubas call it 'oyinbo'.

Never be too sure that Yorubas have been using the word since time immemorial just because you were born into a time when it was already being used does not mean that it was used last century or 2 centuries before. Documented evidence exists that shows the Igbo usage of Oyibo in an interior village in Igboland at about the 1700s (Olaudah Ikwuano, an ex-Igbo slave and the first Igbo and Nigerian to publish a book).

What of Lagos?