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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by keenn: 12:42am On Nov 07, 2015 |
BETATRON: Taking it as a pet doesn't confer any difference, lions are known to bring lower animals as pet for their cubs, which they advently use to master their hunting skills. The word 'Art' is very relative. Astrology is regarded as an art, while some refer to it as a science of divination. If the word 'Art' as used implies making a piece(which is ambiguous) then u havnet seen a dog making a home. To add more to ur quest, I'll include this. The hormone insulin has been harvested from what u would call 'animals'- pigs, horses for human use Antibiotics, antivenom, tissue grafts... are not also left out. 'Likes work for likes' One big mistake we humans make is thinking we are at the centre/top of creation- we aint more or less than all Likes will only work for likes my bro 10 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Nobody: 9:46am On Nov 07, 2015 |
Yes, like works for like. Next time u need transfusion go and get monkey blood. It'll work for u. . The quote below is directly from wikipedia. For the entire writeup please visit the site. Xenograft mean transplant from another specie allograft from same specie: "To date no xenotransplantation trials have been entirely successful due to the many obstacles arising from the response of the recipient’s immune system. This response, which is generally more extreme than in allotransplantations, ultimately results in rejection of the xenograft, and can in some cases result in the immediate death of the recipient. There are several types of rejection organ xenografts are faced with, these include: Hyperacute rejection Acute vascular rejection Cellular rejection Chronic rejection A rapid, violent hyperacute response results due to preformed natural antibodies, known as XNAs.[17]" 6 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Nobody: 9:52am On Nov 07, 2015 |
Extensive research is required to determine whether animal organs can replace the physiological functions of human organs. Many issues include: Size – Differences in organ size limit the range of potential recipients of xenotransplants. Longevity – The lifespan of most pigs is roughly 15 years, currently it is unknown whether or not a xenograft may be able to last longer than that. Hormone and protein differences – Some proteins will be molecularly incompatible, which could cause malfunction of important regulatory processes. These differences also make the prospect of hepatic xenotransplantation less promising, since the liver plays an important role in the production of so many proteins.[17] Environment – For example, pig hearts work in a different anatomical site and under different hydrostatic pressure than in humans.[20] Temperature – The body temperature of pigs is 39 °C (2 °C above the average human body temperature). Implications of this difference, if any, on the activity of important enzymes are currently unknown. Credit. Wikipedia. 2 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Nobody: 10:20am On Nov 07, 2015 |
@Keenn As for supernatural experiences.......... the life of any man who truly and totally commits himself to Christ is supernatural. 1 john 1:1. We daily experience what we believe. I have many instances but I will narrate this one only because I hope that peradventure it may convince u: I'm a Dr. Sometime during my training before crossing from preclinical to clinical, we were required to do medical tests. I tested positive to HBV. 5 Times thereafter I went for the test and it came out as positive. I prayed about it and God spoke to me, He said that I should just follow Him, that the test was not important. I obeyed. some years later after I had graduated, I was walking along the road, when God spoke to me. He simply said" You are free" . and then He opened my eyes to see inside of me, and I could see that I was completely cleansed. Immediately I turned around and entered the nearest diagnostic lab. And the result came out negative. Some months later, I was required in church to carry out premarital medical tests. Which I did but HBV test was not requested. But out of sincerity I told my fiancee( now my wife), that I once had HBV, she insisted that I repeat the test, I went to the hospital where I worked and repeated it and it was negative. Now that's just one. I could continue........ 8 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by keenn: 11:08am On Nov 07, 2015 |
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Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by keenn: 11:14am On Nov 07, 2015 |
accountable: Is that it, is this the supernatural. Havnt u heard of false-positive (false +ve) results, that u were once +ve come -ve doesn't explain supernatural. Supernaturals are what people don't argue about, they defy laws of nature. Floating of an axe in the river Talking donkey Parting of the red sea...are supernatural. It is good news anyway 3 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Kay17: 11:38am On Nov 07, 2015 |
At least he thought it was supernatural and that God did him a favour. More importantly, he wants God to take his side by appeasing God in the same manner pagan Gods are appeased. At the end of the day, he expects good news and good deeds from his God. This basic psychology is prevalent in all theistic religions. This drives the predominant belief in God. |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by waice6571: 12:03pm On Nov 07, 2015 |
God Almighty never lost the sight of them(Athiest) any moment. Thier existence is no threat to God's plan for the earth. They will all come to the side of God and God's longsuffering will avail for them. Do you think they realy mean what they said? Check their comments at all time, you will see that they know the truth but only trying deny it. Some are gullible fools and some, because of thier past when they needed God's help badly but pehaps calling on Him on a wrong platfom (e.g sonofsatan) or too carried away by the wind of their need and unable to access their salvation. But obviously, the hand God is not shorteend that it cannot deliver even the vilest offender. Read Exo 34: 6-7. Only 'THE GUILTY' will be condemed and it shall be his own willing and NOT God's. He will that no one perish but some chooses to. 5 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by CoolUsername: 3:12pm On Nov 07, 2015 |
waice6571:Read Matthew 24:20-34. Keep in mind it happened about 2000 years ago. Then, answer this question honestly: did these things ever happen? 2 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by donnffd(m): 5:34pm On Nov 07, 2015 |
waice6571: You comment about atheist knowing the truth but just denying it and some being gulliable fools...your piece is very hilarious. I must confess,I knw the truth but I deny it, I know that the world isn't 4.5billionyears like suggested in evidence but just 6000years suggested by a book written cavemen 2000years ago, I knw that it took God 3 days to create the earth but one day to create all the stars and the sun and all the heaven bodies because they ar just tiny dots in d sky, I know that stars can fall to the earth when they want to, I know that the universe is 6000years old instead of the 13.77billion years like suggested in evidence,i know that all life appeared on earth mysteriously instead of evolving over billions of years like suggested by dna evidence, I know all these things but I decided to deny it because I am a gulliable fool... 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Nobody: 8:42pm On Nov 07, 2015 |
@ Keenn Told u I wasn't going to give my pearls to pigs. U insisted. Now u had it, see what I've done with it. I'm a dr , i think u should have given me some credit by atleast expecting me to know about false poisitives. Ur lack ( or claim of lack) of evidence for God doesn't make u less accountable to Him, always remember that. This ought not to be abt winning an argument. I'll be praying for u. Bye. 2 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by orisa37: 8:43am On Nov 08, 2015 |
Of course God is aware of atheists. Psalm 53: 1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Athiests are insane, foolish and insensible. If they die in their madness, they go to sheol period. 1 Like |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by MathsChic(f): 8:53am On Nov 08, 2015 |
accountable:I have never seen an argument emptier. 4 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by dhardline(m): 8:54am On Nov 08, 2015 |
He is... |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by sukkot: 8:54am On Nov 08, 2015 |
accountable:clown ass nigga with clown ass questions. you do know every information in the bible is written in the stars and the constellations dont you ? for example the seven angels in the book of revelation is the plaeides in the taurus constellation. etc etc. as above so below |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by freecocoa(f): 8:57am On Nov 08, 2015 |
I love the question, he obviously doesn't have the proof to all his claims, that's why he's hiding. 4 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by xtervaganza(m): 8:58am On Nov 08, 2015 |
accountable:how did you experience him? Mind to tell us or its one of the countless fables 1 Like |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by tupacshakur(m): 9:01am On Nov 08, 2015 |
freecocoa: Freecocoa, ain't you suppose to be in church? It's Sunday morning, you know. |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Malakh: 9:02am On Nov 08, 2015 |
He reserves wrath for them remember, most rotten fruits last longer on the tree |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by freecocoa(f): 9:03am On Nov 08, 2015 |
tupacshakur:Church is for people who have time and money to waste, fortunately for me, I can't afford it. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by BookieMan: 9:03am On Nov 08, 2015 |
To me the existence of God is not in doubt. Moreso all religions believed in one true God. But the question is, is the one true God the God of Christianity, Islam, African traditional religion and or others? But I do notice that all other religions gods are jealous, excepting maybe the African traditional religion God. And this alone is enough justification. Because why will a true god be jealous, especially of his creations? 4 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by angiography(m): 9:06am On Nov 08, 2015 |
donnffd:Re-read his post, tufiakwa |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by ChynoBEATS: 9:07am On Nov 08, 2015 |
donnffd: Explain how life Evolved without a Supernatural source? ..Don't forget that things don't just exist.....here on earth 1 Like |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Kingbilo(m): 9:07am On Nov 08, 2015 |
YourMain: Brilliant |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by xtervaganza(m): 9:13am On Nov 08, 2015 |
accountable:not only are you foolish hut blind and deluded too Only a fool will serve a god who endorsed slavery Only a fool will serve a god who instructed non virgins to be killed in front of their parents Only a fool will serve a god who will throw ppl in eternal fire for a sin they committed for their 70 years existence 5 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by ChynoBEATS: 9:14am On Nov 08, 2015 |
freecocoa: God aint hiding dear.... |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Nobody: 9:15am On Nov 08, 2015 |
tartar9: Koran is same with old testament bible. 1 Like |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by danbrowndmf(m): 9:15am On Nov 08, 2015 |
freecocoa:This is ur definition of church? You don't believe God exist? |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Nobody: 9:16am On Nov 08, 2015 |
BETATRON: Dogs do those 2 things u mentioned. 1 Like |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by plaetton: 9:17am On Nov 08, 2015 |
accountable: I have also experienced the grace of the tooth fairy, as well as Santa Claus, whose jolly grace I am sure you and millions of others may have experienced as well. But why do you not believe in existence and supreme graces of the Tooth fairy and Santa Claus ? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by DRskyman: 9:21am On Nov 08, 2015 |
donnffd:Evolution and creation..parallel yet co-existing. Only pre-existing organisms(creations) can evolve; 'nothing' can't evolve. Chloroquine was once an effective drug for most strains of plasmodium but it z now almost useless because d sporozoans(creations) adapt to it(evolution). It z not ALWAYS wise to doubt what we dnt understand ...afterall want do we even knw about life. As a medical doctor, I can assure u dat science is even at a loss as to the mysteries of lyf. Science only DISCOVERS things hitherto hidden. And trust me... if there is anyone who should b arguing about this, its supposed to be REAL SCIENTISTS like health workers.. God is not obliged to prove his existence to anybody. 3 Likes |
Re: Is God Deliberately Ignoring The Atheist??? by Kingbilo(m): 9:21am On Nov 08, 2015 |
Personally I'm trying to give up this debate.. I just want to believe that there's something more fundamental to life than if there's an all powerful being judging us.. And that is we human beings judging ourselves. Everyone has a conscience that discerns right from wrong. I've travelled all over and I've seen Christians, Muslims, aethists, gays, lesbians who are genuinely good people.. I have also seen genuinely bad people. Most of these people have been born into the religious beliefs they possess.. To be judged when you die based on what someone said a thousand years ago sounds almost evil.. Right or wrong, good or bad cannot be determined based on belief but on actions.. An aethist who donates 20% of his income to the needy vs a Christian who gives 10%. I just can't imagine the former being cast to eternal damnation based on belief.. Doesn't add up During the great crusades, thousands to millions were killed by people who believed in God. Killings sanctioned by the Church with the promise of redemption for any crusader that participated. No. That's definitely not right. One question to the Christians and Muslims in the house.. Do you do good deeds because God said so or because you really deep down want to do them? Personally I see the one who is kind in his heart not because of a law he is led to believe in but based on his own self generated love for his neighbour as cleaner soul. And I have seen people like this. It is possible.. You can be good without believing in rewards of heaven and success or eternal damnation. In summary what I'm trying to say is, what's really the point of knowing? You can be good if you want to be good. You can be bad if you want to be bad. You can be a Christian or Muslim and be bad.. Just be the best person you can be.. And if you find you can only be a good person by believing God will punish you for being bad, by all means do so 16 Likes 2 Shares |
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