OkunrinMeta:


So she would have gotten pregnant if she ate from any of the other trees, just like mary. How do you reconcile your believe that lucifer created a tree with the scripture that says God created the heaven and the earth and everything that is in it.

Is this how brainwashed the world has become. All this stories written centuries ago to enslave man. Please these stories are not real. They are just delusion of grandeur. Lies!

[quote author=Highcuerayte post=39800987] The serpent was Lucifer.

His head was crushed on the cross while he bruised Christ heels with the suffering on the cross.[/quoteWell, to be candid, this is not the first time am discussing this, I have heard it from someone before, but like I said earlier it hard to believe. One love bro.

[quote author=Highcuerayte post=39800987] The serpent was Lucifer.

His head was crushed on the cross while he bruised Christ heels with the suffering on the cross.[/ To be candid, this is not the
first time am discussing this, I have heard it from
someone before, but like I said earlier it hard to
believe. One love bro. ]

jstriker442:
Sounds dull, dumb, ignorant and stupid

In some cultures, marital sex is considered a sin if the woman has had an affair ( whether real, staged or imagined). That might be where he's coming from. It is very real to him since its a standard practice in his culture.

Even if it makes no sense to people who are not within that zone, it doesn't reduce the reality for those who are. Its only a real relationship with Christ which can free people from such bondage and even then.

I think the essence of such practices or beliefs is, you must not have sex with your wife, thus paving the way for the man or woman to seek it outside.

Stevez32:

And for the records I didn't say your theory is wrong, I just highlighted that your assertion that the serpent being is "human-like" leaves much to be desired.

The serpent being human-like I cannot justify with the Scripture, to say, I don't make such a statement but this I establish the serpent is not snake and the snake is not serpent.

dovezeeta:
I now believe u. reading through ezekiel 31. A tree is like a king in d plant kingdom. It's deep my brother. No wonder Jesus called d pharisee 'children of d fornicator(satan)'. Right frm d time of adam...der v not been loyal.

Like you said, it's deep. But see, the Spirit search out everything even the deep things of God.

Its your duty and mine to search this things out. Its the glory of God to conceal things but it's the glory of Kings to search them out.

And do I hear you say "and we are kings" Yea we are.

Raplinx:

word! Are u a christian bro or have u been abandoned by faith like me! U just hit the nail on d head!

ah well, I'm trying to be a Christian as much as I can...God help me. I don't have the power to overcome the temptations...only God can help me

The fruit was not an apple, plz.

Its like saying three wise men from the east visited the baby Jesus.

Prodeegee:
.... I don't have the power to overcome the temptations...only God can help me

God helps me and I also help myself .

I see nothing attractive about bondage, I'm not the sdm type.

itstpia8:


In some cultures, marital sex is considered a sin if the woman has had an affair ( whether real, staged or imagined). That might be where he's coming from. It is very real to him since its a standard practice in his culture.

Even if it makes no sense to people who are not within that zone, it doesn't reduce the reality for those who are. Its only a real relationship with Christ which can free people from such bondage and even then.

I think the essence of such practices or beliefs is, you must not have sex with your wife, thus paving the way for the man or woman to seek it outside.

My dear, religion and belief in ones intuition as spirit sent revelation is becoming a problem in our world 2day.

itstpia8:
The fruit was not an apple, plz.

Its like saying three wise men from the east visited the baby Jesus.

So, my friend. Who visited jesus ??

Prodeegee:
ah well, I'm trying to be a Christian as much as I can...God help me. I don't have the power to overcome the temptations...only God can help me

which church do u attend?

emmyrichie:
In the book of Genesis 2:17 God told man

"but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die."

And man understood what God meant.

This technically means that man already understood the concept of good and evil (Life and death) even when he had not tasted of the fruit of the tree.

So what was the essence of the punishment meted on Adam and Eve?

What was the essence of the tree in there? Was it to test their inconsistency when it's obvious they were going to fail?

Ur ignorance no get part 2 sir.

emmyrichie:
In the book of Genesis 2:17 God told man

"but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die."

And man understood what God meant.

This technically means that man already understood the concept of good and evil (Life and death) even when he had not tasted of the fruit of the tree.

So what was the essence of the punishment meted on Adam and Eve?

What was the essence of the tree in there? Was it to test their inconsistency when it's obvious they were going to fail?

What a dumb question. It's obvious the offence is disobedience.

Somethings are better left unsaid![b][/b]

emmyrichie:
In the book of Genesis 2:17 God told man

"but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die."

And man understood what God meant.

This technically means that man already understood the concept of good and evil (Life and death) even when he had not tasted of the fruit of the tree.

So what was the essence of the punishment meted on Adam and Eve?

What was the essence of the tree in there? Was it to test their inconsistency when it's obvious they were going to fail?

What a dumb question. It's obvious the offence is disobedience.

There is no truth in this world, ur belief becomes ur truth and reality. There are so many creation story, but the one in d bible is the jewish story of creation. To understand more of the jewish story of creation try and read The Sumerian Story of creation. There you might find the answers you are looking for.

The fruit is never forcanition
Seth is godlike descendant of adam
When God was talking of mixing of godlike race with evil race, the evil race was referring to the descendants of the angels/women in d bible dat gave rise to giants, Read online the book of enoch
It is impossible for satan or lucifer to implant a seed in man, if not he would created armies dat would rebel against God tey tey but d only medium he uses is ur consent to sell ur soul to him.

Final note: the bible is inspired of d Holy spirit, but let's remember men compiled the bible together, so many stuff were removed to keep men in control, if not ALL MEN would know that they are Gods and this would cause problem for the powers dat control this world

emmyrichie:
In the book of Genesis 2:17 God told man

"but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die."

And man understood what God meant.

This technically means that man already understood the concept of good and evil (Life and death) even when he had not tasted of the fruit of the tree.

So what was the essence of the punishment meted on Adam and Eve?

What was the essence of the tree in there? Was it to test their inconsistency when it's obvious they were going to fail?

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Na wah oh!for how long will our youths continue to commit suicide by killing themselves to death with the importation and activation of brain dead brain cells.

Guy,no dey smoke snuff abeg...no be today I been dey tell u.

itstpia8:
The fruit was not an apple, plz.

Its like saying three wise men from the east visited the baby Jesus.

Yes my brother three wise visited jesus from the east, these men were astrologers men that study the stars and they saw d star of a great child and followed it. That's y they were called wise cos very few people in dat region studied astrology

jstriker442:
So, my friend. Who visited jesus ??

one calabar man! See question.

Sugarhugs:


They didn't know exactly what God meant all they knew was that God didn't want them to eat a certain fruit so they obeyed

For them to have discerned obedience from disobedience is already proof of their knowledge of good and bad.

How did they both commit sodomy?
Did Lucifer sleep with Adam? Was it not Eve,Adam slept with?

Highcuerayte:
Yes dear, you heard right. Lucifer slept with Eve, he deposit the seed in her. Its true Adam knew Eve but the DNA of Lucifer killed the sperm of Adam giving birth to Cain.

Cain and Abel were both Lucifer's seed because he was called Cain's brother.

Only Seth was recorded to be Adam's image.

Should I tell you that the first sodomity took place in Eden between Adam and Lucifer

DoubleDeeX:


Have you ever wondered why Jesus Christ called the teachers of the law "a generation of vipers' (Matthew 23:33)? and also told them that they are of their father (Cain, the first murderer) when they insisted that they were not born of fornication but are children of God (John 8:41-44)? Smh! The lineage of Seth son of Adam were all godly seed (Children of God) until humanity got mixed up with Cain's descendants (Children of Men) in Genesis 6.

You are still a babe in the things of the spirit of God. And I repeat, this doctrine is not foreign to the scripture. Every Jew knows the truth about this, I don't understand why it's difficult for Nigerians understand this simple truth!

Humble yourself before God brother, if not you won't be able to walk out of the error you've fed yourself and your followers!

so you mean homo-sapien serpent laid wit eve and eve wit adam and they had twins, if cain's bloodline survived until d time of jesus and beyond, that means the children of the serpent and the children of adam must have some kind of biological difference, if not how can d serpent's offspring(cain) resemble God's special creation man(adam). Because cain 'must' surely resemble one of d two, except maybe d serpent was d third man created since u already called him homo-sapien. How did d serpent manage 2 procreate(snakes) to dis day, did God also curse his opposite gender who had no business in dis to creep on her belly as well? Make me understand

Highcuerayte:
Yes dear, you heard right. Lucifer slept with Eve, he deposit the seed in her. Its true Adam knew Eve but the DNA of Lucifer killed the sperm of Adam giving birth to Cain.

Cain and Abel were both Lucifer's seed because he was called Cain's brother.

Only Seth was recorded to be Adam's image.

Should I tell you that the first sodomity took place in Eden between Adam and Lucifer

SMH

The serpent seed theory has been debunked. It is a gnostic concept (Like all gnostic texts gospel of Thomas, gospel of Mary Magdalene etc) which originated around the 1st century Ad onwards (or C.E for the atheists in the house) primarily in a text called the Targums, the Palestinian Targum in particular. In those days they were rejected along with the other gnostic gospels by the early church father's, so rehashing something that has been debunked for centuries is not doesn't make for good academic debate...

DoubleDeeX:


LOL y'all still think like Sunday school kids

What happened in the garden of Eden was fornication between Eve and the serpent! The product of that acts was Cain; that was why he had no light of God in him. Abel on the other hand was from Adam and Eve; it was a clear case of twins with different Fathers.

The serpent was created a homo-sapien like man but without godliness in him which was why Satan easily used him to deceive Eve into fornication. It was after the fall of man that God cursed the serpent and he became a snake crawling on it belly.

The fruit they ate wasn't an apple brother. The mouth Eve used is the one down there. She ate from the serpent and her husband the same day! That's why God frowns at sexual sin; it is what reduced us to what we are today. Sin took over the world in Gen 6 when the serpent seeds completely got mixed up with godly children in the lineage of Seth son of Adam which led to the destruction of the old world by water. The serpent seed in us still escaped through Noah, which was why we needed redemption from an uncorrupted and righteous man Jesus Christ (God in the flesh).

This was what Mother Eve actually did ;

Proverbs 30:20

Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.

Who created the serpent and y was it in the same garden with Adam and Eve

The key here is the Targums were written from 1AD whilst the tanakh (the first 5 books of the Bible) were written thousands of years earlier. If the serpent seed theory were true, it would have shown up in the tanakh but nope, no hint at all.

OkunrinMeta:
I have read a lot of jagons here today. Eve slept with serpent and got pregnant for the devil.... What!!!!!!


OK let me to reason along that line and see if I can expose some of the flaws in the argument.
God had said there were MANY trees in the garden and they were free to eat of any of the those trees except the one in that symbolizes knowledge of good and evil.

So if you say eating means sex and the tree symbolizes the devil. That would mean God had given them the go ahead to have sex(eat) of all the other demons or angels(other trees) except the one of the knowledge of good and evil(Satan)?

Oya please explain that.

I sit here and just laughing. ...good kweshun. When men go beyond what is written, they have to invent another lie to cover up every lie they started.

DoubleDeeX:

Another thing is, there are a lot of things that God frowns at that are not written in the scriptures.

I beg to differ to some extent. While its TRUE that there are so many things God frowns at that are not written in the scriptures, its very easier to create human doctrines from this and God really frowns at such when men make it into laws while they abandon God's laws that are properly stated clearly. So many pastors have said a lot of things without any leading from God.

On the issue at hand, It was clear that the serpent form was taken by satan no wonder the serpent could speak, but come to think of it, how could a serpent 'sleep' with Eve when it was clearly stated in Genesis 2 that 'Adam knew his wife, she became pregnant and give birth Cain.. Eve was tempted, she fell, thus disobeying God. Adam ate from the Apple then they both had their eyes opened. Everything that happened their was physical but with a deep spiritual meaning.

shadowgwalker:
one calabar man! See question.

na so person dey carry die so...... Did u see wat d dude posted

Yr own na jst to rush comment wetin u lyk

Highcuerayte:
Yes dear, you heard right. Lucifer slept with Eve, he deposit the seed in her.
Its true Adam knew Eve but the DNA of Lucifer killed the sperm of Adam giving birth to Cain.

Cain and Abel were both Lucifer's seed because he was called Cain's brother.

Only Seth was recorded to be Adam's image.

Should I tell you that the first sodomity took place in Eden between Adam and Lucifer

Goshen360:
SMH

@DoubleDeeX, @sholay2011, @Dnacode
I dont blame Goshen360, for shaking his head at Highcuerayte's, especially at the red bolded rash statement up there

Highcuerayte is muddling the water up with a few of his gaffes, like the red bolded one
and the misleading notion of Lucifer sleeping with Eve etcetera

Obviously, Highcuerayte is yet to know about HS or has no knowledge of HS (i.e. ''heteropaternal superfecundation'')

Highcuerayte:
Who was God addressing here?

Bros abeg help me park go one side..Thanks