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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 11:58pm On Nov 08, 2015
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 12:00am On Nov 09, 2015
IlekeHD:


No time for nonsense (Sports)


Iya Agba If you're not watching this match, then you're sleeping on a bicycle grin grin

I'm sure even AlaafinofOyo is watching it
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 12:04am On Nov 09, 2015
CabbieAC:
Iya Agba If you're not watching this match, then you're sleeping on a bicycle grin grin I'm sure even AlaafinofOyo is watching it

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 12:12am On Nov 09, 2015

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 12:20am On Nov 09, 2015
CabbieAC:


grin grin grin cheesy cheesy

Da mi louh. Nibo lo ti n wo?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 12:21am On Nov 09, 2015
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 12:34am On Nov 09, 2015
IlekeHD:


You and Ibadan chicx grin

No, not yet. Soonnnn.

We also need to advertise our tourist spots.

Looool. The female amala rangers/bandits. grin

Everyone just keeps telling that it's the place to be. Hopefully, I'll hit there soon.

Err...won't they have to build the spots to world class standard before advertising them? Do you even know how many foreigners travel to Seychelles and North Africa annually? Apparently, over 1 million Russians visit Egypt annually. And that's just Russia alone. Now imagine how many foreigners go there, especially with the craze everywhere about Egypt.

Look at Gambia for example - a lot of white Brits go there. That's their favourite spot in West Africa. Their Bangkok of West Africa, where the women go pick men and men go pick women...these oyinbos love Gambia to death. Yorubaland can be the same as well.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 12:35am On Nov 09, 2015
Shymm3x:


Looool. The female amala rangers/bandits. grin

Everyone just keeps telling that it's the place to be. Hopefully, I'll hit there soon.

Err...won't they have to build the spots to world class standard before advertising them? Do you even know how many foreigners travel to Seychelles and North Africa annually? Apparently, over 1 million Russians visit Egypt annually. And that's just Russia alone. Now imagine how many foreigners go there, especially with the craze everywhere about Egypt.

Look at Gambia for example - a lot of white Brits go there. That's their favourite spot in West Africa. Their Bangkok of West Africa, where the women go pick men and men go pick women...these oyinbos love Gambia to death. Yorubaland can be the same as well.

cry cry cry cry cry cry cry Where did Yorubaland go wrong?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 12:36am On Nov 09, 2015
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 1:19am On Nov 09, 2015
IlekeHD:


cry cry cry cry cry cry cry Where did Yorubaland go wrong?

Ni.gger-area happened. grin

Don't worry, things will change when I become the emperor of Yoruba republic..... grin grin

Emperor Haile Selassie - Hale Shymmex! grin

On a more serious note, Nigeria is just not a serious country. A lot of the countries that are tourist havens are 3rd world countries. Why Nigeria can't tap into tourism and build world class tourist attractions is a mystery to me. Especially with the huge population in the country. Nigeria just sells oil and steal the loot. grin

Have you been to the beaches in Lagos? Darn! The one that I went to when I went out there is a reflection of Nigeria. grin But apparently there are private beaches there - would have to check them out next time.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:42am On Nov 09, 2015
WITHER NIGERIA? The Past, The Present, The Future (By Dr Victor Oladokun)

BREAKFAST AT SHERATON
In the weeks, leading up to the just-concluded Nigerian Presidential elections, I recall having breakfast at the Sheraton hotel in Abuja with a very senior Fulani member of the APC. To my mind, he is cerebrally brilliant, highly knowledgeable, tactical, very influential, and at the core of Buhari's inner circle.

This is what he said to me -

"Victor, let me tell you something, these people (referring to Tinubu and Co) think they are using Buhari. I swear, mark my words, Buhari is using everyone of them."

I made a mental note of the certitude with which my guest spoke, keeping in mind that the Fulani by nature are not flippant; neither do they make statements they don't intend to make good on.

The fact of the matter is that without the organizational genius of Bola Tinubu and the heavy financial backing of APC leaders in the South, a Hausa-Fulani President in 2015 was going to be a remote possibility. As such, it was imperative that Tinubu and his political machinery be used to pave the way for Buhari's election. It was a brilliant stroke of genius because it worked.

The bottom line is that for 16 years (between the Administrations of Obasanjo and Jonathan, excluding the 'non-rule' of Yar Adua) the Hausa-Fulani aristocracy had been out in the political cold for 14 years. They could not afford another four.

While the day is still young and events still unfolding, the words of my breakfast companion that morning, still ring in my ears.

POST-ELECTION BLUES
Sadly, just a few months ago, many in the APC camp would not have envisaged some of the scenarios playing out before us, particularly the recent lopsided Presidential appointments favoring Hausa-Fulani over other ethnicities, and the intemperate language of a few key Hausa-Fulani leaders, especially Senator Rabiu Musa Kwakwanso, who was once all too glad to ride on Tinubu's political campaign train.

Many within APC are either too embarrassed or too afraid to voice what are already public sentiments.

Within a relatively short span of time following the elections, agitations for breakaway Biafra and Oduduwa Republics have been on the ascendancy. With the annulment of elections in two PDP controlled South-South States, the Niger Delta region is abuzz once again. In the last three years of the Jonathan Administration, Boko Haram snuffed out the lives of 3000 Nigerians. In just six months of Buhari’s return to power, more than one third that number of people have been lost to the Islamic militants.

So, we find ourselves once again in familiar territory of insecurity, fear, ethnic rivalry, religious violence and intimidation, and a general sense of 'wither Nigeria?'

As a nation, the many conscious and unconscious choices we make today will create desired or unintended futures. With their own hands, Nigeria's political leaders will create the Nigeria of the Future. Whether it is the Nigeria we want or not, comes down to daily choices, decisions, strategies, comments, and inputs - social, economic, political, ethnic, and certainly military.

Which takes me back 200 – 300 years in our shared existence.

THE SEEDS OF FULANI DOMINATION
In the 1700s and 1800s, drought and the desertification of the Sahara region, forced many indigenous nomadic Nubian populations to flee southward into what today constitutes West Africa. As they moved south, no attempt was made to respect indigenous ethnic communities or boundaries. Pastoral land was taken over with impunity for grazing and agriculture.

In what is present day Nigeria, the most dominant of these Nubian groups was the Fulani.

In 1804, Usman Dan Fodio began his religious, political, and military expansionist putsch from Sokoto across the swathe of Northern Nigeria all the way down to Ilorin.

Better known as Amir Al Muminin (Commander of the Moslem Faithful) Usman Dan Fodio strategically put in place emirs whose role was to conquer Hausa and Fulani cities, regardless of religious affiliation, and establish an Islamic Caliphate along the lines of the Sunni Maliki school of jurisprudence and Qadiri Sufism.

That putsch continues today in various forms and explains why in the middle belt of Nigeria, attempts have been made to foist emirs and the powerfully symbolic institution of emirship on non Hausa-Fulani and non-Islamic communities. This same attempt in the predominantly Christian enclave of Jos under the Babangida Administration is at the root of much of the violence that has bedeviled this part of Nigeria. Other cities in States such as Bauchi, Gongola, and Adamawa with predominantly Christian communities have simply acquiesced and caved in, over time.

As Nigerians, we must recognize that Usman Dan Fodio essentially created a theocratic Caliphate with a strict interpretation of Islam.

In Tanbih al-ikhwan ’ala ahwal al-Sudan, Dan Fodio wrote: “As for the sultans (local leaders) they are undoubtedly unbelievers, even though they may profess the religion of Islam, because they practice polytheistic rituals and turn people away from the path of God and raise the flag of a worldly kingdom above the banner of Islam. All this is unbelief according to the consensus of opinions.”

Writing in 'Islam outside the Arab World,' David Westerlund states that: “The jihad resulted in a federal theocratic state, with extensive autonomy for emirates, recognizing the spiritual authority of the Caliph or the Sultan of Sokoto.”

THE RISE OF THE HAUSA-FULANI HEGEMONY
The irrefutable fact is that whatever the theological justifications and convictions for Usman Dan Fodio’s 1804 Jihad, it led to the rise of an aristocratic ethnic minority which terrorized a whole region via force of arms rather than just religious persuasion.

Through military conquest, organizational and strategic genius, and a political savvy that allowed Hausa nationalities to subordinate their own will and interests to the Fulani, a powerful Hausa-Fulani or better still Fulani-Hausa hegemony has been in place for more than 200 years.

In the Fulani worldview, Christian Hausas in Northern Nigeria are a potential subversive force that threatens the established religious and political power of the Caliphate in Sokoto. In essence, the Christian Hausa community in Northern Nigeria is the antithesis of everything the Hausa-Fulani aristocratic arrangement stands for. It is for this reason that the Fulani especially have done everything possible on numerous occasions to subordinate, frustrate, persecute, and if necessary exterminate Hausa Christians, whenever the need has arisen.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:43am On Nov 09, 2015
MOVING FORWARD
Therefore, in the 21st century, if we are to understand Hausa-Fulani hegemony, the perennial problem of marauding Fulani herdsmen, and the pestilence of sporadic religious violence, we must come to terms with these uncomfortable facts in our nation’s history.

With the foregoing in mind, it is clear that –

1. Over the last 200 years, Hausa-Fulani hegemony has increased, and not decreased.
2. Regardless of Administration (military or democratic), the Hausa-Fulani aristocracy has ensured that its interests are always safeguarded, particularly as gatekeepers of key political and military positions.
3. As long as the Hausa-Fulani aristocratic mindset prevails, under no circumstances will breakaway Republics be allowed in the South, nor separatist Hausa/Middle Belt movements in the North.

HARD QUESTIONS:

Today, we are at a point in our co-existence where we have to ask really hard questions -

1. Are we all on the same journey of nationhood?
2. Do we have the same dreams and aspirations as a nation?
3. Are we agreed on the methodologies with which to accomplish these dreams and visions?
4. Can the age-old militaristic and political hegemony of the Hausa-Fulani ever be assuaged or subordinated for the better good of Nigeria? Or is it too deeply engrained in their DNA?
5. Can our ethnic, religious, and political aspirations ever be subordinated for the better good of Nigeria?
6. In the absence of the poisoned chalice of crude oil, is there much else that holds us together?
7. Are we willing to sincerely review and implement the recommendations of the National Conference? If not, what are the plausible alternatives?

Ultimately, collective answers to these questions will determine where and how far we go as a nation. The paths we choose will unfold the 'prophetic' scenarios that eventually play out before our eyes.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Funjosh(m): 6:48am On Nov 09, 2015
Hmmm
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:00am On Nov 09, 2015
[size=13pt]Nothing Will Stall Completion Of Any Of Our Projects –Aregbesola[/size]


Tells Contractors To Sit Up

All ongoing projects, including the mega-schools in Osun are to be completed as scheduled. This was the assurance given by the G‎overnor of Osun, Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola after his assessment tour of the projects at the weekend.

A statement by the Bureau of Communication and Strategy, signed by its Director, Semiu Okanlawon, quoted the governor as stating this during an unscheduled inspection tour of the ongoing construction sites of Ilesa High School.

He was quoted as directing all the contractors of the ultra-modern schools across the state to accelerate work in their various sites.

Aregbesola noted that it would be unfortunate and regrettable if the contractors handling school projects failed to complete and hand-over the schools to the state within the agreed period.

He added that schools under construction are financed with the Sukuk bond, saying there is no excuse for the contractors not to accelerate work pace.

The Governor had earlier in the week also visited Community Elementary/Middle School, Dada Estate, Osogbo High School, Ataoja School of Science, Osogbo and New Model High school in Ede.

For any contractor slowing down on their site, the governor gave stern warnings noting that his government, despite the financial meltdown, was poised to fulfil its electioneering promises.‎

The governor stated that he will leave no stone unturned to ensure that all the on-going school projects were delivered in no distant time to enhance the reclassification exercise of the state government.‎

Aregbesola charged the contractors to keep the contractual agreement with the state government by using the recommended materials for the school building project, noting that government will not shift ground on the set requirement for the projects.

He chided contractors for what he described as slow pace of work on site, pointing out that he would continually be paying unscheduled visit to site to ensure that contracts awarded by government are properly monitored.

The governor frowned at the contractors handling Osogbo and Ilesa High schools, noting that the pace of work by the contractors are too slow as most of the expected works at the sites were not encouraging.‎

On Osogbo High School, he said, “what I met here today was not impressive at all and I am disappointed in the snail pace of work on this site.

“I have been coming here several times but met the work stagnant as no tangible progress could be said to have been made by the handlers of the school building.

“The site for football pitch has not been cleared. The administrative building has not been completed. The school structure remained stagnant,” Aregbesola lamented.

Aregbesola added that it is unfortunate that the school project expected to be completed and commissioned for use soonest has been delayed due to insensitivity and lack of diligence by the contractor.

He said, “It is unfortunate and regrettable that some of our projects are being handled slowly but notwithstanding we will do all we could to ensure a speedy and possibly accelerated implementation as I am personally ready to tour across all the ongoing projects in the state.

“Our government will spare no effort in its bid to reposition the state most especially the education sector as we are bent and irrevocably ready to provide necessary facilities and equipment to aide teaching and learning process through conducive atmosphere,” The governor pointed out at the site.

He therefore directed contractors of all the ongoing projects to expedite action that will facilitate quick implementation of projects, saying government will henceforth not hesitate to revoke the contracts for any non-performing contractor.


http://osun.gov.ng/2015/11/09/nothing-will-stall-completion-projects-aregbesola/




Governor State of Osun, Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola, accompanied by the
Site Engineer, Ogundele Adedamola on the inspection tour of the
on-going constriction site of Osogbo High School on Monday 19-10-2015.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:21am On Nov 09, 2015
[size=13pt]Aregbesola Inspects The House Of Assembly Pavillion[/size]

The Governor , State of Osun, Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola with the Speaker, House of Assembly, Hon. Najeem Salam and others, during the inspection of the ongoing construction of the Osun House of Assembly Pavilion, at House of Assembly Complex, Osogbo, at the weekend



Governor State of Osun, Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola (left); Speaker House of Assembly, Hon. Najeem Salam (second left) and others, during the inspection of the ongoing construction of the Osun House of Assembly Pavilion, at House of Assembly Complex, Osogbo, at the weekend



Governor State of Osun, Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola (middle); Speaker House of Assembly, Hon. Najeem Salam (left), House of Assemble Member, Ede North constituency, Hon. Debo Akanni (right) and others, during the inspection of the ongoing construction of the Osun House of Assembly Pavilion, at House of Assembly Complex, Osogbo, at the weekend



Governor State of Osun, Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola (right); Speaker House of Assembly, Hon. Najeem Salam (left) and others, during the inspection of the ongoing construction of the Osun House of Assembly Pavilion, at House of Assembly Complex, Osogbo, at the weekend



Governor State of Osun, Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola (right); Speaker House of Assembly, Hon. Najeem Salam (left) and others, during the inspection of the ongoing construction of the Osun House of Assembly Pavilion, at House of Assembly Complex, Osogbo, at the weekend
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f): 10:25am On Nov 09, 2015
DrMoffy:
wow!!! I finally caught up with this beautiful thread after one week. I had a very busy schedule but made sure I went through d thread page by page. with what I hv read n learnt here, I have no doubt THERE IS HOPE FOR YORUBA NATION. Bring it on, we are good to go.... kudos my people!

Welcome on board Sir.

ProfShymmex, that Sona dude is good. "Ki Lo Gbe Yi Omode Yi" grin grin grin grin

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:33am On Nov 09, 2015
[size=13pt]Tourism Potentials in Ondo State[/size]

1.Idanre Hills (Idanre LGA)

The is the leading tourist centre in Ondo state and one of the best in Nigeria with international reputation is in Idanre Town. The hill-fenced town has series of high and historic hills and landmarks. History had it that the town was formerly located on one of the highest hills of the area, as a sort of defence against external aggression of the olden days. The old Oba’s (King) Palace is located at the top the said hill and the present Oba still visits it during festive periods in order to invoke the spirits of the ancestors on the town. The hill top sanctuary is marvellous and attractive as it consists of about 640 steps.

Among the uniqueness of Idanre town is the presence of Agbogun Foot Print on one of the hills. This is an intriguing footprint that contracts and enlarge to accommodate any foot placed in it except those of the evildoers like witches and wizards going by the people’s belief. There is also the presence of an antiquity of long historic value, the Oduduwa Crown, which is believed to have been brought by the first King of the town, Olofin. The crown is said to have been there for over 1,000 years. It is occasionally being worn by the Owa of Idanre especially during Ije festival.


2.Ebomi Lake (Akoko South East LGA)

Another potential tourist attraction of Ondo State is the Ebomi Lake at Ipesi in Akoko area of the state. The lake, which is about 2 km North of Oka town had been in existence before the settling of the Ipesi people. The lake is 1.6 kilometres long and 40 metres wide. The name ‘Ebomi’ is a local dialect of the word ‘Abami’ implying weird or mysterious. A local priest is charged with the responsibility of appeasing the lake when in times of trouble. The best period for visitation by tourists is between the months of November and March when the level of water must have fallen due to low rainfall at the period. The mysterious Lake forms part of Ose River and it requires more attention than the yearly sacrificial festival in August for which it is being used by the indigenes.

3.Oke Maria At Oka Akoko (Akoko South West LGA)

The Oka Hills provide attractive scenery for visitors and tourists. Oka Town is located northeast of Akure, the state capital, and is about 113 km away. The occupation and placement of the representative statue of the Virgin Mary by the Catholic faithfuls has given the area a religious undertone. The hill was first spotted by Rev. Father Cerminatti in 1916 and since then, thousands of tourists have visited the site annually on pilgrimage. Another attractive feature at Oka is the presence of Agba Shrine, which is made up of a small Lake known as Ojomirin. The lake has never dried since it was discovered.

4.Igbokoda Water Front (Ilaje LGA)

The waterfront at Igbokoda, within the Ilaje Local Government Area, is one of the longest territorial waters in Nigeria, and also one of the important tourist attractions in the riverine area of Ondo State. The presence of an open fishing terminus will definitely be of interest to tourists.

5.Igbo Olodumare At Oke-Igbo (Ile-Oluji/Oke-Igbo LGA)

This is an ancient forest that is known for various spirits. The forest is an attractive sight for tourists. In the forest, there is the site for a thousand demons and also a hill known as Oke Langbodo. This forest has been of tremendous use most especially to artiste and film producers for its uniqueness. The host Local Government Area is found towards the east of the state capital.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:36am On Nov 09, 2015
For those who do not know,this is what Igbokoda water fronts looks like. It is the longest territorial water in Nigeria and has a fishing terminal. The waterfront offers an excellent location for boating, swimming, sport fishing, picnic, boat regatta, diving and many more.

What is Mimiko doing?

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 10:41am On Nov 09, 2015
CabbieAC:
Iya Agba I saw you talking about the idea of Itsekiris joining us.Abeg we should stop speaking for anyone or wanting others to join us.The 6 south-west states plus kwara are enough.If they want to join us,they should speak for themselves.We can't speak for anyone,it makes us look cheap.

You are ignorant Bro. Everybody who is a member of the family or related must leave with us.
You do not even understand the strategic reason why it has to be so.
Many in the Yoruba leadership and pretenders are shortsighted and outrageously vain and greedy.
That is why I regard the tinubus Fasholas and the rest as transitional leaders. The Falaes ( Babangida's boy boy)no? non leaders and impostors.
So why do I call them shortsighted, they are essentially making the same mistake that Awo made by investing so much in Nigeria when it is clear that the country is doomed.
people like shymxx can see the failures because they are removed from the madness but most are used to it because they leave in that filth.
Why is there no standing and organised yoruba self determination group overseas at home especially when you look at the current trajectory of the country. A country where law and order has collapsed(a failed state). A country where minorities and animist in the middle belt and North East are being cleansed off their land.
I can go on and on but there is another matter on my mind.
A yoruba oba bearing Abdul something in Iwo? I'm not keen on either this ooni or the Iwo guy.
To me, they do not look well groomed and I do not see them as the brightest bulbs in the basket.
From the pictures I've seen, they look more like your vain-glorious politicians
A true yoruba and a custodian of our yoruba tradition, culture and civilisation will never borrow the name of facist religions which which are subordinates of the one handed down by our forefathers.

Like I said in one of my post. There are no kings anymore.
There are over 80 million Active practitioners of the yoruba religion in the Americas alone, yet we have Mumu king running to to the middle east to bow to stones in the name of those 2 religion.
Even leaving the spiritual aspect, let us consider the economic imperatives for a rebirth and reawakening of our religion .
The ooni ( the spiritual custodian of the yoruba religion) and the alaafin ( the economic and military custodian are being short sighted. Imagine what places like ife and oyo will gain from prestige, tourism and pilgrimages. Foreigners are not coming in numbers because the foreign practitioners consider the kings as people who are not serious.
The ooni died and nobody knew. Not a whisper beyond the borders of the country because they have rendered their positions as insignificant.A damage that is self inflicted. Running after shady contracts when the potential derivable income from homage, tourism and pilgrimages is in geometric terms, multiples of that.

The yoruba calendar is just one of a few calendars in the world. It is our invention, it is very accurate, it shows the ingenuity of our people, it shows out civilisation predates and was ahead of even those who colonised us, yet our Mumu leaders and Kings do not celebrate what they have ( Another high level reason why Fashola, tinubu and co will never be leaders of the yorubas)
The yoruba new year starts on June 4 .
The Chinese celebrate their own new year.
The Ethiopian celebrate theirs.
We celebrate and worship invented foreign sstones.
Look around you, the result is there for you to see.
A beaten, poverty blighted people who are less civilised than their so called illiterate fore fathers who could.
People queuing for rice to sell their future. The food our forefathers regarded as not healthy and fed to goat, sheeps, pigs and hens. Our so called illiterate forefather

1Read the cosmos and invent a calendar
2 Who could measure the passage of time
3 pave their own Road 500 tears ago without foreign help
4 build the own houses
5 smelt steel,bronze, brass etc
6 make their own medicine
7vaccinate through inoculation entire cities
8 build massive structures and fortifications
9 build empires
10 build beautiful works of art
11 feed their own people
12 build a society with law and order.
13 who ran a society more democratic than anything in most countries today.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:44am On Nov 09, 2015
What of the beautiful Owo artefacts.What is Mimiko doing?I'm really concerned about this because this is my State







Rwanda as a country has made the most of its tourism potentials by creating a thriving industry around its mountain gorilla population
and that's a Rwanda coming off the genocide in the mid 90s so what's our excuse

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:52am On Nov 09, 2015
oduastates:


You are ignorant Bro.Everybody who is a member of the family or related must leave with us.
You do not even understand the strategic reason why it has to be so.
Many in the Yoruba leadership and pretenders are shortsighted and outrageously vain and greedy.
That is why I regard the tinubus Fasholas and the rest transitional leaders. The Falae ( Babangida's boy boy), non leaders and impostor
So why do I call them shortsighted, they are essentially making the same mistake that Awo made by investing so much in Nigeria when it is clear that the country is doomed.
Why is there no standing and organised yoruba self determination group overseas especially when you look at the current trajectory of the country. A country where law and order has collapsed. The law


Call me what you want but don't call me Ignorant.Learn to address people with courtesy.You don't know me

Back to your comment,have Itsekiris told you they want they want to be with us? and why make it a must.How many Itsekiris have proclaimed to you they are Yorubas.The same thing you're doing here is what the romanis are doing concerning the Igbo-related groups like Ikwerres.We're bigger than that please!We're Yorubas! we don't force anyone.The other part of your comment has nothing to do with the first part.I'm in support of Yoruba independence

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 11:05am On Nov 09, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:



Call me what you want but don't call me Ignorant.Learn to address people with courtesy.You don't know me

Back to your comment,have Itsekiris told you they want they want to be with us? and why make it a must.How many Itsekiris have proclaimed to you they are Yorubas.The same thing you're doing here is what the romanis are doing concerning the Igbo-related groups like Ikwerres.We're bigger than that please!We're Yorubas! we don't force anyone.The other part of your comment has nothing to do with the first part.I'm in support of Yoruba independence
No you should apologise to all yorubas for calling regarding your own brothers as bastards or not belonging.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:10am On Nov 09, 2015
oduastates:

No you should apologise to all yorubas for calling regsrding your own brothers as bastards


Maaan you're picking an unnecessary fight here.Please let's not derail the thread.I never said anyone is a bastard so stop putting words in my mouth. You don't force people to be with you,Its not a must and I owe no one apologies!

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:22am On Nov 09, 2015
[size=13pt]Our society will be better, If wealthy Nigerians complement govt efforts – Aregbesola[/size]


Gov. Rauf Aregbesola of Osun said Nigeria was now in a stage where government efforts must be complemented by those who were financially and economically endowed.

[img]http://cdn2.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/412x250xaregbesola-Osun.jpg.pagespeed.ic.YqJ2ZXqmZi.webp[/img]

Aregbesola made the remarks when he inaugurated the newly renovated Comprehensive Health Centre, Igbajo in Boluwaduro Local Government Area of the state.

The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) reports that the hospital was renovated and equipped by a philanthropist, Mrs Yetunde Oyewola, in commemoration of her 80th birthday .

Aregbesola said well-meaning and successful Nigerians needed to rise up to the occasion by complementing the onerous efforts of government toward the socio-political and economic development of Nigeria.

The governor, who noted that over 40 per cent revenue loss in the Federal Allocation to the state had consistently crippled the government policies and programmes, said many states found it difficult to pay the wages and salaries of their workforce.

“The simple analysis of the current economic imbroglio is the fact that the three tiers of government which were sharing over N1.3 trillion before the acclaimed crude oil theft that persisted between June, 2011 to May, 2013 are now sharing N366 billion.

“These are open-secrets because every issue attached to it is made public because they are public documents and there is nothing for anyone to hide.

“The crude oil which was being sold for $114 per barrel now dropped to $48 per barrel. This shows the state of our nation’s economic downturn.’’

He, however, commended Oyewola for renovating the hospital.

“There is no doubt that if every wealthy Nigerian has been doing this in the past, our society will have been better transformed because for any society or nation to develop, its citizens must see the need in selfless sacrifice towards its upliftment,’’ Aregbesola said.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:25am On Nov 09, 2015
I agree with Aregbe on this.I also feel wealthy people should pay more tax.Just my opinion
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 11:26am On Nov 09, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:



Call me what you want but don't call me Ignorant.Learn to address people with courtesy.You don't know me

Back to your comment,have Itsekiris told you they want they want to be with us? and why make it a must.How many Itsekiris have proclaimed to you they are Yorubas.The same thing you're doing here is what the romanis are doing concerning the Igbo-related groups like Ikwerres.We're bigger than that please!We're Yorubas! we don't force anyone.The other part of your comment has nothing to do with the first part.I'm in support of Yoruba independence

Either they come with us or become what they were in the past. An independent and friendly buffer state against the unknown from the east.
Bro.put on your Oyo empire thinking cap.
Read my long story again. Oyo did not rise because it went to war. Oyo grew because it was always assessing potential risk and removing those risk by being proactive.
That is why oyo did not lead any expedition against Benin at the Power. Less conflict means more chances for growth and development.
If your eastern borders are tight,
Kai, many people are not strategic at all.
Look at the long picture.
There is no doubt a potential for conflict under that scenario.
Do you want to share borders with Biafra .
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:31am On Nov 09, 2015
oduastates:


Either they come with us or become what they were in the past. An independent and friendly buffer state against the unknown from the east.
Bro put on your Oyo empire thinking cap.
Kai, many people are not strategic at all
Do you want to share borders with Biafra .


Wo e don do abeg! You just carry the thing on top head like trailer.Your courtesy is zero.I don't enjoy having conversations with rude Yorubas like you because I avoid conflict with my fellows.Thanks for your contributions

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 11:36am On Nov 09, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:



Wo e don do abeg! You just carry the thing on top head like trailer.Your courtesy is zero.I don't enjoy having conversations with rude Yorubas like you because I avoid conflict with my fellows.Thanks for your contributions
Bro, I'm not been rude. I am just correcting a dangerous and insular line of thought which has become common nowadays.
Because it is not Ondo, oyo,ogun, osun,lagos, ekiti . That means he is not yoruba.
Bros I will tell you something, I gbadun my yoruba folks from Sierra Leone well.
Personally , I pray to see the day when all our brothers are back in together in the border pre - 1914 borders. When a palm oil seller started her from Igbokoda ( Ondo state to market her wares in Lome . Sell her stuffs and head to the present day mali to buy gold for resale at home.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:43am On Nov 09, 2015
oduastates:

Bro, I'm not been rude. I am just correcting a dangerous and insular line of thought which has become common nowadays.



So where in my comment did I manifest any insular line of thought?

That forcing minorities to join us is wrong?

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:53am On Nov 09, 2015
oduastates:

Because it is not Ondo, oyo,ogun, osun,lagos, ekiti . That means he is not yoruba.
Bros I will tell you something, I gbadun my yoruba folks from Sierra Leone well.
Personally , I pray to see the day when all our brothers are back in together in the border pre - 1914 borders. When a palm oil seller started her from Igbokoda ( Ondo state to market her wares in Lome . Sell her stuffs and head to the present day mali to buy gold for resale at home.


You're getting me wrong.This is the same thing Mayoroflagos said, and we all agreed with him.That was why we changed the title of the thread to Yoruba commonwealth and I remember him mentioning the Yorubas in Benin,Sierra leone and the likes.The Itsekiri case is a totally different scenario.While we may be related, they've somehow managed to appear distinct.No one wants to be subdued.This is a country where everything is about oil.If autonomy were to be granted to every region today or lets say independence,what's the guarantee Itsekiris will join Odua?

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 11:53am On Nov 09, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:




So where in my comment did I manifest any insular line of thought?

That forcing minorities to join us is wrong?



This is what I have for you.







Prince Godfrey Ikenwole Abiloye EmiKo

The new olu of warri.
Representing all things yoruba better than we the so called yorubas
The criteria being

name
Culture
Tradition

I trust itshekiris, they will scratch out that Godfrey out very soon.

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 12:04pm On Nov 09, 2015
Lol Oduastates so him having a Yoruba name is the reason why you feel they must be with us?

You're letting your wishes overcome reality.Please lets talk reality here and not cartoons

Tell us about Rotimi Amaechi who told us he's not Igbo

Tell us about Sunday Ogochukwu Oliseh who told us he's not Igbo

It's easy to jump on our keyboards and claim people but have they claimed us? think about this

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