learned0007:


Spot on.

Thanks bro.

Also, can you confirm the "document by document" WES evaluation is good to go in this case since its for Immigration and not study purpose.

I asked because that should cost 150 canadian dollars (which is equivalent to less than 30k naira), but I read earlier in the thread that some pay as much as 50k naira for the evaluation so I'm at a loss as to why. Im I missing something?

Open www.wes.org/ca , click on 'Educational Credential Assessment for CIC' , after the next page opens, click on 'Apply' , it will open a page where you are to register your details and then register the qualification you will want them to evaluate. After that stage, you will get to payment stage where you will see two fees - 233dollars and 322dollars. One is for sending your evaluated completion to you by normal post while the other is to sedn it to you by courier, choose whichever you want.

That's the way to go about it, ignore the 'document by document' stuff

Hi @Zandora and @Jesustheway,

I got a couple of questions concerning the express entry.

Background: 3.3yrs in manufacturing as a process engineer and production manager in Procter & Gamble. IELTS - 8,7.5,7.5,7 (RWSL),skill type NOC 0

1) Do u know about any province with more manufacturing job opportunities?
2) Is it possible to get a job offer to boost the application process?
3) Is it advisable to lower ur profile from NOC 0 to B since my work experience is less than 4yrs in the manufacturing?

Thanks in advance.

Well done @ Jesustheway, Zandora.
Pls we are applying, my husband as d principal applicant. Our Masters transcripts are IELTS are ready. But the immigration agent is insisting we get B.SC transcripts. This has taken more than one month. Can we go ahead and enter the pool ourselves?

I am 3 months pregnant, if after 6 months we are successful God willing, when is it advisable to travel with the new baby?

What additional preparation do we need for the new baby?
Thank you.

tsolution:
Well done @ Jesustheway, Zandora.
Pls we are applying, my husband as d principal applicant. Our Masters transcripts are IELTS are ready. But the immigration agent is insisting we get B.SC transcripts. This has taken more than one month. Can we go ahead and enter the pool ourselves?

I am 3 months pregnant, if after 6 months we are successful God willing, when is it advisable to travel with the new baby?

What additional preparation do we need for the new baby?
Thank you.

The question is? Have you guys done your credential evaluation with WES? If no, you might want to start from there. If affirmative, then you can go ahead to create your EE profile (i.e enter into the pool). You do NOT need a transcript to enter the pool; in fact, you do not an ECA to enter the pool, however, you would not be awarded the much needed points for your degree.

From your point above, I can infer you may not have done your ECA, I would suggest you assess just your Masters (especially if it's a foreign master); that way, you do not have to wait for your BSc. CIC awards points based on highest qualification, as such, you would be getting all the points possible for your degrees.

Congrat on the baby you have on the way, I don't think that would be a problem; one step at a time.

gretop:
Hi @Zandora and @Jesustheway,

I got a couple of questions concerning the express entry.

Background: 3.3yrs in manufacturing as a process engineer and production manager in Procter & Gamble. IELTS - 8,7.5,7.5,7 (RWSL),skill type NOC 0

1) Do u know about any province with more manufacturing job opportunities?
2) Is it possible to get a job offer to boost the application process?
3) Is it advisable to lower ur profile from NOC 0 to B since my work experience is less than 4yrs in the manufacturing?

Thanks in advance.

1) Do u know about any province with more manufacturing job opportunities? Ask google sir
2) Is it possible to get a job offer to boost the application process? Not impossible, but extremely unlikely for an outband applicant.
3) Is it advisable to lower ur profile from NOC 0 to B since my work experience is less than 4yrs in the manufacturing? I reckon the maximum number of years you can claim point for in respect of foreign experience is 3 years. Anything beyond that is of no value; suffice to state that your 3.3 years is adequate.

Just a little advice, your IELTS score is cool, however, your CRS point would increase significantly if you can re-attempt the exam. You need a 8,7,7,7 (LWRS) to get an extra 50 points under transferable skill.

Good day all.
I worked as a Senior Officer (Standardization and Quality Assurance specialist) with a Federal Government Agency for 3 years. Now within the office, i specialized on Chemical Technology Companies. I didn't necessarily , even though i did where necessary, carry out chemical tests. However, i was involved in Standards Writing and implementation, enforcement activities and inspection and auditing of companies' processes, environment, health and products quality.

My question is, what NOC do i classify the above job responsibilities? A senior government official, Chemical Technologist, Standards Writer or a Researcher? Kindly advise.

Hello Zandora,
Please I had an OND before I can went for my BSC and am almost through with my MBA, can I evaluate the OND separately? if yes I cant see the space to include it in the evaluation link

regards

Etfash:
Good day all.
I worked as a Senior Officer (Standardization and Quality Assurance specialist) with a Federal Government Agency for 3 years. Now within the office, i specialized on Chemical Technology Companies. I don't necessarily , even though i did where necessary, carry out chemical tests. However, i was involved in Standards Writing and implementation, enforcement activities and inspection and auditing of companies' processes, environment, health and products quality.

My question is, what NOC do i classify the above job responsibilities? A senior government official, Chemical Technologist, Standards Writer or a Researcher? Kindly advise.

Do get confused with the title/position of your job, but rather focus on job descriptions. Your job description must match your selected NOC by over 75%. In view of this, I would advise you chose an NOC that closely match your job description; i.e if these tasks (Writing and implementation, enforcement activities and inspection and auditing of companies' processes, environment, health and products quality.) closely match the NOC for Senior Officer (Standardization and Quality Assurance specialist) as specified by CIC; then you select that NOC.

keni:
Hello Zandora,
Please I had an OND before I can went for my BSC and am almost through with my MBA, can I evaluate the OND separately? if yes I cant see the space to include it in the evaluation link

regards

Yes, you can. Your OND and BSc may be assessed as being equivalent to 2 or more Canadian degrees, which fetches more points than just bachelor.

On the link, I reckon there should be a space for DIPLOMA (OND is a diploma degree); am not sure though, others who have assessed their OND degree may have a more definite opinion.

Thank you Irondome. Based on your explanation and the search i have conducted, Senior government official and Chemical Technologist NOCs are out.

I think NOC 4161 is more in line with my job responsibilities than 5121.

Thank you once again.

Etfash:
Thank you Irondome. Based on your explanation and the search i have conducted, Senior government official and Chemical Technologist NOCs are out.

I think NOC 4161 is more in line with my job responsibilities than 5121.

Thank you once again.

4161 is it then. CIC prioritizes job description over job title.

irondome:


Yes, you can. Your OND and BSc may be assessed as being equivalent to 2 or more Canadian degrees, which fetches more points than just bachelor.

On the link, I reckon there should be a space for DIPLOMA (OND is a diploma degree); am not sure though, others who have assessed their OND degree may have a more definite opinion.

Okay thanks bro I would appreciate more opinions on these from others

keni:


Okay thanks bro I would appreciate more opinions on these from others

The Diploma won't fetch you an extra mark because it was done before the Bsc, cases where it has fetched people extra marks are when it was done after first degree. Your masters would have been the best but you are yet to finish let alone get your result and transcripts so, you can only evaluate your Bsc for now. When you finish your masters and have gotten result and transcripts ready, you can notify wes to add it to existing Bsc credentials with them(they may not charge you extra).

Hi all, please i want to find out if after sending my transcripts to WES through my school, do i still need to send hard copies of my academics documents to WES? and if so, can i send hard copies of the Statement Of Result of the certificates to be assessed as i have not yet collected my Certificates from my school but have my statement of results which i can send easily.
Please guys throw some light on this.

JesusDWay:


The Diploma won't fetch you an extra mark because it was done before the Bsc, cases where it has fetched people extra marks are when it was done after first degree. Your masters would have been the best but you are yet to finish let alone get your result and transcripts so, you can only evaluate your Bsc for now. When you finish your masters and have gotten result and transcripts ready, you can notify wes to add it to existing Bsc credentials with them(they may not charge you extra).

Does it make any difference if they are exclusive of eachother? E.g OND in accounting and BSc in Economics. Or when your ond was not used towards your BSc admission.

tsolution:
Well done @ Jesustheway, Zandora.
Pls we are applying, my husband as d principal applicant. Our Masters transcripts are IELTS are ready. But the immigration agent is insisting we get B.SC transcripts. This has taken more than one month. Can we go ahead and enter the pool ourselves?

I am 3 months pregnant, if after 6 months we are successful God willing, when is it advisable to travel with the new baby?

What additional preparation do we need for the new baby?
Thank you.

Don't use the immigration agent again, it seems some of them don't even know the right thing to do and you end up wasting your money. Much as i shouldn't spoil business for him/her, it appears he/she didn't tell you that your transcripts are needed for evaluation to determine its Canadian equivalent and not just so you can have it(i advise though that you have photocopies and scanned copies of it as there are other opportunities like PNPs that you can use it for). Even if he's trying to handle the evaluation on your behalf, you must know that the transcripts are to be addressed to the evaluation body, in this case WES, and a copy of your certificate must be included. Also, WES will send back to your school(if it's a Nigerian school), that they should confirm the transcripts is from them which school will reply. It's only after then that WES will do the evaluation for you and notify you of the outcome then, you can enter the pool(there's a reference number on the evaluation result that you will quote while filling the forms online to enter the pool otherwise, your profile will be ineligible and as such, you cant enter the pool)

Also, you don't need to evaluate the Bsc, what CIC needs is the evaluation of your highest qualification which is the Masters, that's what you should send to WES for evaluation(you see reason why i said some of these agents know nothing, they have just succeeded in delaying your process for a whole month).

Finally, the date your Medicals is done is what determines how long you have to stay back in Nigeria before you leave. If you get visa 3months after doing medicals(your medicals will be required after CIC draws your score in the pool), it means you have 9months left in Nigeria. If your baby comes before you are given visa, you have to notify CIC as they will have to include the baby in your family and consequently issue him/her a visa as well. If your baby comes after you have gotten visa, then you know you have to go there and give birth.

irondome:


Does it make any difference if they are exclusive of eachother? E.g OND in accounting and BSc in Economics. Or when your ond was not used towards your BSc admission.

No it doesn't, qualification is what they are assessing, they are not bothered about whether your separate studies are linked, its only in school matters that may come up and even at that, i doubt it cuz, school will reckon only with the qualification you are using to apply to a programme with them

JoyStick1:
Hi all, please i want to find out if after sending my transcripts to WES through my school, do i still need to send hard copies of my academics documents to WES? and if so, can i send hard copies of the Statement Of Result of the certificates to be assessed as i have not yet collected my Certificates from my school but have my statement of results which i can send easily.
Please guys throw some light on this.

Yes, send a photocopy of your statement of result to them. Write your reference number at the top right corner of the envelope for easy identification

irondome:



The question is? Have you guys done your credential evaluation with WES? If no, you might want to start from there. If affirmative, then you can go ahead to create your EE profile (i.e enter into the pool). You do NOT need a transcript to enter the pool; in fact, you do not an ECA to enter the pool, however, you would not be awarded the much needed points for your degree.

From your point above, I can infer you may not have done your ECA, I would suggest you assess just your Masters (especially if it's a foreign master); that way, you do not have to wait for your BSc. CIC awards points based on highest qualification, as such, you would be getting all the points possible for your degrees.

Congrat on the baby you have on the way, I don't think that would be a problem; one step at a time.

You muddled things up there, try and watch what you type, they definitely need an ECA to enter the pool

JesusDWay:


Yes, send a photocopy of your statement of result to them. Write your reference number at the top right corner of the envelope for easy identification

COOL , Thanks JesusDWay all the Way.

JesusDWay:


No it doesn't, qualification is what they are assessing, they are not bothered about whether your separate studies are linked, its only in school matters that may come up and even at that, i doubt it cuz, school will reckon only with the qualification you are using to apply to a programme with them

You don't get my point. One way or the other, length of study comes into play. Two different degrees of collective 6-7 years of study duration stand a good change of being assessed as 2 or more degrees. In another perspective, OND (2years duration and HND (another 2 years duration) get assessed as 2 more degrees, but for some bizarre reasons, OND (2 years) and BSc (another 4-5 years) get assessed as one degree. It doesn't add up.

I took the liberty to check on CIC criteria for 2 or more degrees (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/eca-conversion.asp), it stated that one must be for a program of three or more years (which BSc fits the profile) PLUS any of the qualification below


Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificateFootnote 1
Post-Bachelor's Diploma
Post-undergraduate diplomaFootnote 1
Graduate Certificate
Graduate Certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Postgraduate certificate
Postgraduate Diploma
Graduate Diploma with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Graduate diplomaFootnote 1
two-year Postgraduate Diploma, specializing in [name of discipline]
two-year Bachelor’s after degree with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
one-year Postgraduate Certificate in [name of discipline]
one-year of graduate study with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Study Toward a Master's Degree

I reckon an OND qualifies as a graduate diploma (not sure though); if yes, that implies that the OP may be able to use it claim more points ESPECIALLY if the total years of study (BSc+OND) is like 6-7 years; i.e if he did 2 years in Poly and 4-5 years at the UNI.

JesusDWay:


You muddled things up there, try and watch what you type, they definitely need an ECA to enter the pool

That was not mistake sir, not all applicants on EE need an ECA depending on the category (FST, Canadian Masters). I stated that to de-emphasised the weight his/her agent placed on transcript/ECA. More importantly, I did go ahead to advise the OP to get his/her ECA done.

Thanks for the heads up though.

irondome:


Does it make any difference if they are exclusive of eachother? E.g OND in accounting and BSc in Economics. Or when your ond was not used towards your BSc admission.

JesusDWay:

No it doesn't, qualification is what they are assessing, they are not bothered about whether your separate studies are linked, its only in school matters that may come up and even at that, i doubt it cuz, school will reckon only with the qualification you are using to apply to a programme with them

irondome:

You don't get my point. One way or the other, length of study comes into play. Two different degrees of collective 6-7 years of study duration stand a good change of being assessed as 2 or more degrees. In another perspective, OND (2years duration and HND (another 2 years duration) get assessed as 2 more degrees, but for some bizarre reasons, OND (2 years) and BSc (another 4-5 years) get assessed as one degree. It doesn't add up.
I took the liberty to check on CIC criteria for 2 or more degrees (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/eca-conversion.asp), it stated that one must be for a program of three or more years (which BSc fits the profile) PLUS any of the qualification below
Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificateFootnote 1
Post-Bachelor's Diploma
Post-undergraduate diplomaFootnote 1
Graduate Certificate
Graduate Certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Postgraduate certificate
Postgraduate Diploma
Graduate Diploma with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Graduate diplomaFootnote 1
two-year Postgraduate Diploma, specializing in [name of discipline]
two-year Bachelor’s after degree with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
one-year Postgraduate Certificate in [name of discipline]
one-year of graduate study with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Study Toward a Master's Degree
I reckon an OND qualifies as a graduate diploma (not sure though); if yes, that implies that the OP may be able to use it claim more points ESPECIALLY if the total years of study (BSc+OND) is like 6-7 years; i.e if he did 2 years in Poly and 4-5 years at the UNI.

The point you have now shown you are making doesn't match the initial question, my answer was based on the question you asked.

Regarding the diploma, what CIC meant by Graduate or Postgraduate Diploma or Certificate is a Diploma/Certificate done after your first degree and as such, he cant claim 2 certificates with the OND because it was done before the Bsc

Interesting interview by McCallum new immigration minister. Emphasis will be on processing refugee claims in the immediate term. just hope this doesn't affect EE program

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/impact-syrian-refugee-promise-immigration-levels-undetermined-mccallum-090015869.html

Pls forum members I have a driver licences which I did but without capturing and I was told I will need to sumit it in Winnipeg to get there own. My question is will they confirm it with Nigeria road safety or not.

I can't speak on the confirmation process but if you're still in Nigeria why not just get the "authentic" DL? The process is less tedious now in Lagos and elsewhere. Just regularise and be at rest. My two cents

romefe:
Pls forum members I have a driver licences which I did but without capturing and I was told I will need to sumit it in Winnipeg to get there own. My question is will they confirm it with Nigeria road safety or not.

Issydebo:
I can't speak on the confirmation process but if you're still in Nigeria why not just get the "authentic" DL? The process is less tedious now in Lagos and elsewhere. Just regularise and be at rest. My two cents

Before the permanent is ready after a month I most have arrive 3wks. I don't know if I can use the temporary for it.

irondome:


Do you have an ITA yet? If otherwise, you might want to delay your PCC until you receive one as PCCs have validity date. Furthermore, there is no point in rushing as it's what you can get in less than a week. It's inscribed validity is usually 3 months, however, I think CIC consider it valid for 1 year, may request for a new one if it's older than 3 months.

On your proof of funds, I believe you can use your insurance contribution and Tbills as long as they are not encumbered and you can provide financial documents to back up the funds for a period of 6 months. Can you access/draw from your contributions (cooperative and Insurance) at any point in time? What's the tenure of your tbills?

The PCC validity has long since been changed. PCC's are now valid for 6 months if obtained from one's country of residence therefore he doesn't need to request for a new one if it's older than 3 months. CIC ignores the expiry dates written on PCC's therefore the 3 months validity date on Nigeria PCC's is immaterial.

zandora:


The PCC validity has long since been changed. PCC's are now valid for 6 months if obtained from one's country of residence therefore he doesn't need to request for a new one if it's older than 3 months. CIC ignores the expiry dates written on PCC's therefore the 3 months validity date on Nigeria PCC's is immaterial.

For the OP, it still boils down to if he/she has an ITA, otherwise, he/she would be wasting money in doing it over again. For instance, I rushed to do my PCC in February hoping I was going to be drawn with the next draw; unfortunately, CIC waited for another 4 weeks to make the next draw and I was not fortunate enough, until another 5months.

I see no point in doing PCC ahead, except for countries like the US, etc where PCC processing takes over 2 months. Same goes for medicals, doing medicals far too early enough cuts into the time you & family have to land after getting your COPR.

romefe:

Before the permanent is ready after a month I most have arrive 3wks. I don't know if I can use the temporary for it.

I would say, don't take chances as those guys verify virtually everything; most especially if their SOP says the officer must verify. I believe you can endure 3 weeks without a car as they have relatively efficient transport system over there.

On the other hand, I am not sure if getting a Nigerian international drivers license would help for those 3 weeks. You may want to do your further investigation as to it's acceptance in Canada.

irondome:


I would say, don't take chances as those guys verify virtually everything; most especially if their SOP says the officer must verify. I believe you can endure 3 weeks without a car as they have relatively efficient transport system over there.

On the other hand, I am not sure if getting a Nigerian international drivers license would help for those 3 weeks. You may want to do your further investigation as to it's acceptance in Canada.

Thanks

Hi guys, *zandora jesusdway

Top of the morning. Please I need to confirm how to explain my nysc year. Cic has sent a mail regarding a one year gap which is my nysc year. Initially, I put it as government work but they are asking for more information. How do I explain what I did for the year. Thanks