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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Curlieweed: 12:03am On Nov 12, 2015
obailala:
Oh yeah, 'Mumuharri'... at the end of the day, the whole movement is fueled by one and only one thing, the hatred for buhari and the anger that he defeated your candidate in an election.

But then, you talk about the SW voting Buhari who promised to shred the national conference report. Only a silly person would expect a north westerner or north easterner to implement any confab report. But then, was GEJ going to also implement the report?... NEVER. It is also only a silly person that would have believed that GEJ had the political will or courage to implement the report.

The election was purely a case of choosing between 2 unsound candidates, but while one had the political will to fight corruption, the other not only did not have the political will nor courage, he did not also give a damn about the existence of corruption.

Finally, I am arguing with someone whose reasoning is beclouded by the emotions of hate, and anger and disgust over the defeat of GEJ and emergence of a person he terms mumuharri; I would be silly if I expect any sensible or balanced arguments from someone who is emotional. Goodnight!

You're simply being diversionary. If you go back to the very beginnings of my posting history, I have consistently supported the break up of this abomination called Nigeria. In fact I can't think of any popular pro-Biafra poster who suddenly started supporting Biafra because an Ijaw man lost an election. This is simply part of the long series of lies against the Biafran struggle from the 60's.

Mumuharri is simply a symptom of what is wrong with Nigeria. I have stronger feelings towards the clown that calls himself my state governor(Roaches) than Mumuharri. However when I was opposing Okorocha before the election people like you were accusing me of hating him because he was aligning with the North. The results are becoming increasingly glaring. There is no comfort in being right.

Regarding fighting corruption. When Dullarpo fights it we will see it. There is zero evidence that your hero understands what corruption is let alone fighting it. His records at NNPC, PTF and as a former Head of State are far eloquent than the false robes you folks attempt to don him. Yet again, there is no comfort in being right.

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Xpaz: 12:03am On Nov 12, 2015
Ishilove:

You and your generations yet unborn are the mad and eeddiotic ones. Anu ugboko. Ifule
go to bed.
each tym you want to make a point you end up fighting as if you are still a kid.

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Ishilove: 12:04am On Nov 12, 2015
Xpaz:

go to bed.
each tym you want to make a point you end up fighting as if you are still a kid.
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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by obailala(m): 12:05am On Nov 12, 2015
CSTR2:
The SE as a whole does not get up to $15b as federal allocation for a year.
What kind of meaningful development are you expecting?
To build a high speed rail that would connect the whole SE would cost atleast half of that.
Federalism that should give more economic powers to the state has been jettisoned.
Are you Nigerians allergic to the truth?
Whatever the entire SE gets today, it gets more from the centre than it gives. So if it breaks away today, it would be poorer. Fact of life is that it is the SS that feeds the entire nation.

So what are the SE leaders doing to increase revenue today?... Whatever they can do to increase revenue when we split, why cant they do some of those things today to generate revenue and improve the lives of the common man in the SE?.... If you cannot still see what the real big problem is (leadership), then it's a pity.
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Obosiland: 12:06am On Nov 12, 2015
no wonder you called your self crazyman.sorryioo you are crazy indeed.take your med,,don't worry when the referendum comes biko vote against is simple,you can stop us now with your grammar
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by pazienza(m): 12:07am On Nov 12, 2015
These are the issues these Oduanistanis should be addressing:

. https://www.nairaland.com/2722007/easy-ways-kill-biafran-agitation

2.http://www.igbofocus.co.uk/Ohanaeze/OHE2/ohe2.html

And not writing silly articles on Biafra.
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by olajorn(m): 12:07am On Nov 12, 2015
Ishilove:

You and your generations yet unborn are the mad and eeddiotic ones. Anu ugboko. Ifule
have u been hacked? shocked if someone post this when u were still a mod,its atleast 1 wk ban
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Xpaz: 12:08am On Nov 12, 2015
Ishilove:
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sorry to say but you Have a big problem. and I tink I know d root of it all. however. you are irredeemable.
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by pazienza(m): 12:09am On Nov 12, 2015
obailala:
Whatever the entire SE gets today, it gets more from the centre than it gives. So if it breaks away today, it would be poorer. Fact of life is that it is the SS that feeds the entire nation.

So what are the SE leaders doing to increase revenue today?... Whatever they can do to increase revenue when we split, why cant they do some of those things today to generate revenue and improve the lives of the common man in the SE?.... If you cannot still see what the real big problem is (leadership), then it's a pity.

I fail to see how it's any of your concern how Biafra( which by the way is more than SE) will raise her revenue!

Biafrans owe no Oduanistani or Arewastani any explanation on that.

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by pazienza(m): 12:11am On Nov 12, 2015
[b] 1. Close down Lagos ports and Open up PH, Calabar, Onitsha and Warri.
2. Cancel all direct and major connecting flights to Lagos and Abuja airports...only local or minimal connecting flights will be allowed. While this is being done, open up Enugu, Owerri, Asaba, Uyo and PH to international flights...direct and major connecting flights.
3. Ask all international and diplomatic missions to move their embassies and consulates from Lagos and Abuja to Enugu, PH and Calabar.
4. All federal governments agencies in Lagos and Abuja shall be relocated to Enugu, PH and Calabar. CBN, NNPC,e.t.c shall and must relocate to PH, Calabar and Enugu.
5. All multinational companies in Lagos and Abuja, shall and must relocate their offices to PH, Calabar and Enugu.
6 Relocate the Nigerian capital to Calabar, PH, Enugu or Asaba

7. If these conditions can be fulfilled and implemented, we can try one Nigeria and let's see if you Hausas and Yorubas will like it for a month. Meaning, Yorubas and Hausas needing to get visas shall travel to PH, Calabar or Enugu to do that. Same with flying or connecting flights, same with shipping and importing their goods, e.t.c. [/b]

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by pazienza(m): 12:13am On Nov 12, 2015
Arewa-Oduanistanis should be seen opening articles on how to effect the above bolded demands,which are equality and justice based.

The silly Oduanistanis claiming Igbos who love Igbos more than themselves, should be seen opening threads up and down in NL, championing the bolded conditions, which is only fair, Seeing as they( Arewa-Oduanistanis) have been enjoying those conditions for like 100 years now since the creation of Nigeria.

The so called one Nigerian Igbo apologists should be seen violently demanding for those conditions, instead of opening silly threads to advice Ndiigbo to accept and live with injustice for the sake of their personal interests?

May Amadioha, Ogwugwu, Igwekala, Ojukwu, Agwu, Ngene, Kamalu, etc fire any silly and dubious Arewa-Oduanistani one Nigeria apologist that Will not be comfortable with one Nigeria under those conditions but want Biafrans to be comfortable in one Nigeria without those conditions.

Isee!

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Ishilove: 12:16am On Nov 12, 2015
Xpaz:

sorry to say but you Have a big problem.
and I tink I know d root of it all.
however.
you are irredeemable.
Hmmm, I'm seriously pondering why I should give a flying fvck what you think about me...

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by AkwaIbomrep1: 12:16am On Nov 12, 2015
Imo state needs urgent attention from the Fg. ..... Rochas is the worst thing that can happen to Imo state, he is supposed to take over from Ojukwu as the gburugburu ndigbo ,but now he is seen as ewu hausa one of hausa land , in Imo state roads get wash two weeks after construction by rochas construction company ''roche'' ..... So many inferior & abandoned projects, no good road, no light, everywhere is dark no street light, no..,no..,Infact, okorausa is a disaster to that state, he is a natural disaster to the state , I'm not from Imo but from Akwa ibom I just visited Owerri on Oct. This yr. & shade tears for our s/east brothers .....mehhn it's terrible , that's why there's no room for apc here in Akwa ibom ......back to the main topic ,no sane being believe in nigeria again do u ppl think at all ? Why there's no steady power supply ?, no love ,no rail way network except the one of 1960 build by the colonial masters, power supply own is the worst, they have use it as a mean to loot , obasenjo spent roughly $18billion on nepa yet no light only for him to change the name from nepa to phcn , GeJ. Came he changed from phcn to cedc who knows what Buahri will call his own whether mtn or cnn just to loot, plus oil money as a minister of petroleum , we have the money what is stoping them from giving us light , because they want to politicize over it........., obasenjo made dangote who he is 2day from my oil money & now he's a stake holder of the(dangote) business, we own the oil yet nothing to show , dangote can single handedly feed the whole of Akwa ibom for a yr. .... Show me one (oil) billionaire in Akwa ibom ,none , it's just yesterday they started increasing our budget which may take us time b4 we can meet up with other states in terms of development , enter inside Akwa ibom u will shade tears , .............. I hate nigeria ....#VisitAkwaibom

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by FreeGlobe(f): 12:18am On Nov 12, 2015
ikevin:
This is the same reason the Ibos are hated. A simple question of which states make up Biafra, you guys went on insulting. Any little thing, you insult. You are so filled with hate and bile. This is not the way to go about your interest. But really, which states make up Biafra, try educating us about Biafra a little bit.
Your capital, your currency, exchange rates etc. Please no insults.
look this foolish yoruba man that was claiming delta igbo. fool
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by FreeGlobe(f): 12:23am On Nov 12, 2015
Ishilove:
Fantastic writeup. Makes a whole lot of sense.

They want Biafra yet they cannot hold their own leaders accountable for the underdevelopment of the SE
I bet the entire SE states are more developed that the neck of the wood you come from. I challenge you to mention your state lets compare. This your foolishness is why you were sacked as mod. We have no apologies for wanting Biafra. You can't do nothing about it.

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Xpaz: 12:25am On Nov 12, 2015
Ishilove:

Hmmm, I'm seriously pondering why I should give a flying fvck what you think about me...
What I tink about you?
is that a joke or what?
just remain a mod that you are cos that's d only way I can HV tym to think and remember you exist when I want my stuffs to be moved to d fron't page
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by pazienza(m): 12:31am On Nov 12, 2015
FreeGlobe:

I bet the entire SE states are more developed that the neck of the wood you come from. I challenge you to mention your state lets compare. This your foolishness is why you were sacked as mod. We have no apologies for wanting Biafra. You can't do nothing about it.

Free her, she is our Ukwuani sister. She has been feeding from the Oduanistani propaganda against SE for her entire life. Take it easy on her.

It's going to take time to totally emancipate her from those propaganda by using our truth and facts.

I am becoming more convinced that the Oduanistani propaganda machine played a very key part in Igbo denials in those parts of Igboland by presenting a very poor and bad image of SE on their( Igbo denials) collective psych using their infamous Lagos-Ibadan propaganda machine.

We have the ICT age to thank,for we now have a chance to debunk and tear to shreds those Ibadan-Lagos Oduanistanis propaganda against us.

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by CrazyMan(m): 12:31am On Nov 12, 2015
erico2k2:

I once asked an Igbo friend if you actualize Biafra what will be your major export, he said trade and industry, I then asked him what is restricting you from doing so now,no answer.
That's the problem. Most of the people ranting here didn't watch Nnamdi kanu's video interview before he was arrested.

The guy has nothing on ground...you're ready to wage a war yet you don't even have a well fortified military base to operate from. Isn't that funny?

I wish I could post that video link here so most of us (igbo youths) would be enlightened. If you want to follow a leader, he must be able to convince you that he's worth ruling and is ready to defend and lay down his life for you.

What does Nnamdi kanu have apart from radio biafra?

If war breaks out in the SE today it would be worse than the first biafran was cos the SS wouldn't join us. Meaning operation from the sea would be zero...so how do we bring in ammunitions, food, first aid materials...etc?

Let's be logical in our reasoning please.

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Pwhitelaw(m): 12:31am On Nov 12, 2015
Op only few of them will understand your point because truth is bitter.. You Don talk better my guy those who are blind won't see anything good in your write up... The fool go soon quote me
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by ctoon(m): 12:45am On Nov 12, 2015
Guy u think u re right but u re wrong, let me tell u what u re, u re just being selfish u think of what u re going to face u don't not thinking what ur children, grand children will face ur fathers fight fr u now ur time to fight u now thing that being slave is ur ans, u better die fighting fr ur freedon dan spending all ur life being a slave
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by pazienza(m): 12:47am On Nov 12, 2015
If war breaks out in the SE today it would be worse than the first biafran was cos the SS wouldn't join us.

Why should war break out? Are you saying that we are prisoners of Arewa-Oduanistanis, that we don't have the right to exist independent of them? Are you confirming what we have been suspecting?

You mean we must co exist with Arewa-Oduanistanis or be killed by them in war?

Since when has marriage become by force?

Isn't it elemental biological knowledge that only parasites force co Existence?

And also an elemental knowledge that in nature, all hosts are in constant battle to free themselves of parasites?

You expect Biafrans to stay in Nigeria simply because the Arewa-Oduanistans are pointing guns at us and daring to unleash another genocide on us, should we attempt to seek for freedom?

Are you saying that we should forsake our freedom and become subjugated, simply because enemies who masquerade as fellow countrymen are threatening death on us should we dare?

Why would any sensible person want to share a country with enemies who once unleashed death on your fore runners for dare trying to be free, enemies who show no remorse for their past actions but are daring to even do worst?

Your moniker says everything about you, you seriously need help.

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by CrazyMan(m): 12:47am On Nov 12, 2015
mandax:

Crazyman is truly what his name depicts - he is not completely sane.

Every (s)lected politician in the south east is a product of dysfunctional Nigeria.

Give us Biafra to enable us elect our true leaders in Igboland.

By the way, is Nigeria no longer a democracy?

If Nigeria is a democracy, it's time to have a referendum conducted in the old south east region for Biafra.
Lol at your reasoning

If we can't select credible leaders to govern in the SE, what difference will it make if Biafra becomes a reality?

Wouldn't it be the same crooks and criminals who would still be elected at the expense of we the youths, and we the youths would be the ones hailing and singing their praises.

T.A. Orji was elected by the same youths into the senate after 8years of failure as a governor.

Dave was elected as governor by the same youths after 8 years of being a deputy to Elechi's failed Administration.

Wake up bro, if we cannot choose our leaders now, when we eventually get Biafra our problems would be compounded.

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by OK500: 12:48am On Nov 12, 2015
i love it when people take time to make analysis of pressing matters. but i stand with a big NO on your submissions with the following, noting this facts- BIAFRA is not an IGBO but all BIAFRANS affairs and should be seen in that light. 1.though we need leaders(not necessarily politicians),the change in nationhood should be from the voices of the suffering masses not those you are thinking who will still be ready to sell us out driving only their selfish interest even in decades ahead. 2.many countries had done it in the past and succeeded even when those challenges were there. BIAFRA will succeed too. 3.because we have been in continous lack in nigeria, we make a change especting a better outcome. 4.where does the federal govt get the money they allocate to the states and others in the kind of govt system obtainable in nigeria? 5.pls open your eyes, even in nigeria of tomorrow, your vote will still work nothing. it is still british framework we are seeing.still believe in alternative...BIAFRA!!
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by FreeGlobe(f): 12:49am On Nov 12, 2015
pazienza:


Free her, she is our Ukwuani sister. She has been feeding from the Oduanistani propaganda against SE for her entire life. Take it easy on her.

It's going to take time to totally emancipate her from those propaganda by using our truth and facts.

I am becoming more convinced that the Oduanistani propaganda machine played a very key part in Igbo denials in those parts of Igboland by presenting a very poor and bad image of SE on their( Igbo denials) collective psych using their infamous Lagos-Ibadan propaganda machine.

We have the ICT age to thank,for we now have a chance to debunk and tear to shreds those Ibadan-Lagos Oduanistanis propaganda against us.
I am not the type that begs anyone to join Biafra or to be sympathetic to our course. I believe in the ingenuity of igbos and believe the 5 SE states and Anioma/Ndoki are enough for us to be a country of our own. She can perish with whatever views she has.

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Favparis(f): 12:51am On Nov 12, 2015
I wonder why they think this fight is easy without their TOP FIGURES [Traditional Rulers, Governors, Politicians, Senators] in support of it?

These guys should borrow brain if they don't have one.


Ask Nnamdi Kanu to relocate to Nigeria with his Family so you guys can fight this whole thing together if you think he's not using your brains.

Even all those Igbos in India busy shouting Biafra, relocate home and fight this struggle. Not shouting Biafra from another man's land where u and your family are living peacefully, and you want to kill other people's children here.

Is Nnamdi Kanu more powerful than Ojukwu? most people don't even know him in Igbo Land.



Today Biafra, 2moro Biafra, person no go hear word. I pray you get it and see the Implications as listed Above.

This is the most sensible solution/alternative to this Biafra saga I have ever come across on Nairaland.

A word is enough for the wise!

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by FreeGlobe(f): 12:53am On Nov 12, 2015
CrazyMan:

Lol at your reasoning

If we can't select credible leaders to govern in the SE, what difference will it make if Biafra becomes a reality?

Wouldn't it be the same crooks and criminals who would still be elected at the expense of we the youths, and we the youths would be the ones hailing and singing their praises.

T.A. Orji was elected by the same youths into the senate after 8years of failure as a governor.

Dave was elected as governor by the same youths after 8 years of being a deputy to Elechi's failed Administration.

Wake up bro, if we cannot choose our leaders now, when we eventually get Biafra our problems would be compounded.
TA Orji was elected because of the filthy Nigerian system. Like TA Orji like Aregbesola, like northern governors. Nigeria cannot be great without fixing the system and fixing the Nigerian system is practically impossible. Why couldn't a Soludo be a governor of Anambra state if not for the filthy Nigerian system. As long as Nigerian refuses to fix the system, bad leaders will be inevitable and everywhere
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by CrazyMan(m): 12:54am On Nov 12, 2015
pazienza:
If war breaks out in the SE today it would be worse than the first biafran was cos the SS wouldn't join us.

Why should war break out? Are you saying that we are prisoners of Arewa-Oduanistanis, that we don't have the right to exist independent of them? Are you confirming what we have been suspecting?

You mean we must co exist with Arewa-Oduanistanis or be killed by them in war?

Since when has marriage become by force?

Isn't it elemental biological knowledge that only parasites force co Existence?

And also an elemental knowledge that in nature, all hosts are in constant battle to free themselves of parasites?

You expect Biafrans to stay in Nigeria simply because the Arewa-Oduanistans are pointing guns at us and daring to unleash another genocide on us, should we attempt to seek for freedom?

Are you saying that we should forsake our freedom and become subjugated, simply because enemies who masquerade as fellow countrymen are threatening death on us should we dare?

Why would any sensible person want to share a country with enemies who once unleashed death on your fore runners for dare trying to be free, enemies who show no remorse for their past actions but are daring to even do worst?

Your moniker says everything about you, you seriously need help.
Have you listened to Nnamdi kanu's broadcast at all?

Its obvious that you haven't cos if you have you wouldn't put up this reply.

My dear wake up...kanu wants war he has said so countless times, he even boasts of having a weaponry factory and an army of over 10,000 volunteers.

If you had listened to his broadcasts and then his interview you would call him a lunatic.

Cos he has nothing on ground...he's just leading our brothers to be slaughtered by security operatives.

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Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by FreeGlobe(f): 12:55am On Nov 12, 2015
Favparis:
I wonder why they think this fight is easy without their TOP FIGURES [Traditional Rulers, Governors, Politicians, Senators] in support of it?

These guys should borrow brain if they don't have one.


Ask Nnamdi Kanu to relocate to Nigeria with his Family so you guys can fight this whole thing together if you think he's not using your brains.

Even all those Igbos in India busy shouting Biafra, relocate home and fight this struggle. Not shouting Biafra from another man's land where u and your family are living peacefully, and you want to kill other people's children here.

Is Nnamdi Kanu more powerful than Ojukwu? most people don't even know him in Igbo Land.



Today Biafra, 2moro Biafra, person no go hear word. I pray you get it and see the Implications as listed Above.

This is the most sensible solution/alternative to this Biafra saga I have ever come across on Nairaland.

A word is enough for the wise!
The same Nnamdi Kanu that has be detained by the Nigerian secret police for nearly a month now? This one must be living under the rock
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by bukster(f): 12:56am On Nov 12, 2015
coolzeal:
Please be kind enough to post your source for clarification.
REGIONAL AVERAGES
1 = South West - 19.3% Poverty (+ Average)
2 = South South - 25.2% Poverty (+ Average)
3 = South East - 27.36% Poverty (+ Average)

----------------------------------------------------------------------
** National Avg 46.0%% Poverty
----------------------------------------------------------------------

4 = North Central - 45.7% Poverty (+Average)
5 = North East - 76.8% Poverty (- Average)
6 = North West- 80.9% Poverty (- Average)


SS
$75B

SW
$79B

SE
$37B

NC
$30B
NC + FCT
$35B

NW
$44B

NE
$22B
Here are the sources

http://www.dataforall.org/dashboard/ophi/index.php/

http://services.gov.ng/states


Please post your source

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Nobody: 1:00am On Nov 12, 2015
All this people quoting in full should be jailed... seun and lalastica take note
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by BrainWssh(m): 1:02am On Nov 12, 2015
I concur one million times. Was about opening a similar or the same thread but thank God u did. Am from the east, ebonyi precisely and i hate tampering with NIGERIAS unity with passion. UNITY WE STAND
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by pazienza(m): 1:02am On Nov 12, 2015
CrazyMan:

Have you listened to Nnamdi kanu's broadcast at all?

Its obvious that you haven't cos if you have you wouldn't put up this reply.

My dear wake up...kanu wants war he has say so countless times, he even boasts of having a weaponry factory and an army of over 10,000 volunteers.

If you had listened to his broadcasts and then his interview you would call him a lunatic.

Cos he has nothing on ground...he's just leading our brothers to be slaughtered by security operatives.

Kanu doesn't want war. He wants freedom for Biafra. The only people threatening war on Biafra and promising to bring death and destruction to our land, are the Arewa-Oduanistanis.

The demand for Biafra can never be a demand for war!

Nigeria is a colonial entity, not an indigenous one. No time in History did the Indigenous groups in Biafra vote to be a part of Nigeria.

But even if we voted to be a part of Nigeria in the past, it's still within our human right to vote nolonger to be a part of it today.

Any Arewa-Oduanistani threatening death and destruction on Biafra will be struck dead by the God of justice.

Co existence can never be by force.

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