obailala: Whatever the entire SE gets today, it gets more from the centre than it gives. So if it breaks away today, it would be poorer. Fact of life is that it is the SS that feeds the entire nation.
So what are the SE leaders doing to increase revenue today?... Whatever they can do to increase revenue when we split, why cant they do some of those things today to generate revenue and improve the lives of the common man in the SE?.... If you cannot still see what the real big problem is (leadership), then it's a pity.
REMEMBER SS IS PART OF BIAFRA( HAUSA/YORUBA DIVIDE AND RULE IS OVER, WE ARE WISER NOW) BUT TAKE THIS AS A PROPHECY OR A REALITY(OR IGNORE IT) - SE HAS A BIG WELL OF RESOURCES UNTTAPED( OIL INCLUSSIVE)....WAIT TILL BIAFRA STANDS!
Anyi Ga-eme Mbaa Ka Ódi Ukwuu Ma Öbúrú Na Agbúrú Nille Ga Etikota Aka Rúó Órú Ma Gharakwa Ì Na-ata Ndi Ózó Uta Mgbe Ihe Mgberede Dakwasiri Anyi.E Kwenyerem Nigïria Ga Adikwa Ukwúú ÖZÖ.
Chei…okwu gi di uto na nti. Kama oga adi mma ka iwere ozia zie ndi ndu Igbo gbasasiri na naijiria. Gwa ha na izu ka mma na nne ji. Odu nwanne duru nwanne ya anaghi afu ya ufu na nti. Gwa ha muru ako n'aka ndi odida anyanwu, na ndi ugwu. Maka na ndi Igbo si na ihe onye n'amaghi okariri ya. Ochichi obodo bu agha nwoke na ibe ya. Onye ka ibe ya ike, ga enwe mmeri. Abum onye huru ndi Igbo dum n'anya.
That's the problem. Most of the people ranting here didn't watch Nnamdi kanu's video interview before he was arrested.
The guy has nothing on ground...you're ready to wage a war yet you don't even have a well fortified military base to operate from. Isn't that funny?
I wish I could post that video link here so most of us (igbo youths) would be enlightened. If you want to follow a leader, he must be able to convince you that he's worth ruling and is ready to defend and lay down his life for you.
What does Nnamdi kanu have apart from radio biafra?
If war breaks out in the SE today it would be worse than the first biafran was cos the SS wouldn't join us. Meaning operation from the sea would be zero...so how do we bring in ammunitions, food, first aid materials...etc?
Let's be logical in our reasoning please.
THEN YOU ARE FAR FROM THE REALITY. BRAZE- UP MY FRIEND. WELL...THE MORE YOU LOOK , THE LESS YOU SEE! !
I just wish they'll just allow these people to go, all these distractions and noise are not necessary, Nigeria need to move forward, we can't talk progress in a divided country, let Biafra go pls.
But unfortunately i fear it won't happen under PMB, no president wants to have the record of being the one in power when Nigeria was divided, as clueless as Jonathan was, he was able to hold on to the end, I'm sure PMB won't let it happen, how i wish they could just go without war or trouble.
Your name has already vindicate and oblirge with my thought......you've gone crazy bro..............what do you mean by "how can the states survive without nigerian gov't allocation"..........do you mean Biafran gov't can't be shifting allocation to her states . . . . . . One thing you ought to save in your scatterbrain is that ""Biafra will rejig from what nigeria is passing through""" . You are blaming your leaders for darkness while the word "nigeria" mean "area of darkness" though your leaders will ask you ""how many of us have been allowed to rule nigeria....their gov't favours their people and not us"".........really seems you've fallen victim to the propaganda of hausa-fulani and yourba people....................just have a rethink before posting,dnt even know if you ever know what is "marginalisation"........about unemployment,nigeria is 101yrs with over 40million unemployed youth.....havent you detect,our problem is this man-made country "nigeria".....and you are here blaming your marginalised leaders.......mtcheeew . . . Do you feel good in nigeria -NO Lets try Biafra -NO you be satan
Old ethnic tensions will resurface. If I know my igbo brothers well. They will look to dominate Biafra both economically and politically. This will lead to clashes with other ethnic groups.
Have you listened to Nnamdi kanu's broadcast at all?
Its obvious that you haven't cos if you have you wouldn't put up this reply.
My dear wake up...kanu wants war he has say so countless times, he even boasts of having a weaponry factory and an army of over 10,000 volunteers.
If you had listened to his broadcasts and then his interview you would call him a lunatic.
Cos he has nothing on ground...he's just leading our brothers to be slaughtered by security operatives.
THERE YOU GO AGAIN!! YOU ARE MORE FAR FROM THE REALITY- YOU ARE THE ONE SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF AN EYE OPENER. YOU SPEAK LIKE A BIG COWARD. ITS JUST LIKE ONE OLD YORUBA MAN IN MY NEIGHBOURHOOD TELLING ME THAT ALL WE NEED IS FOLD OUR HANDS AND FLOW WITH NIGERIA WHEREVER THEY FLOW TO- FORWARD OR BACKWARD. MAN! BRAZE- UP FOR A REAL CHANGE. BETTER TO DIE IN THE WAR FRONT THAN SUFFER PERPETUALLY A BONDMAN/SLAVE!!
ohenhen1: Old ethnic tensions will resurface. If I know my igbo brothers well. They will look to dominate Biafra both economically and politically. This will lead to clashes with other ethnic groups.
WE HAVE PASSED THIS STAGE LONG TIME AGOO! PLS WALK FASTER OR WE LEAVE YOU BEHIND. THANKS
sukkot: we are not the ones agitating for secession because yoruba leaders are corrupt. you know what, sometimes people cannot see the stupidity of their ways unless a mirror is put to their face so i will help you out. >> yoruba leaders are very corrupt and eat all the allocation to yoruba land from the federal government and because of this, yoruba people start agitating for separation from nigeria because our land is undeveloped. doesnt that sound crazy to you ? shouldnt we be fighting our thieving yoruba leaders instead ?
Hahahaha… apt and on point. Awon agba ni enyin ti ota yo… wahala enu ni. Awon oselu radarada ni wahala ti won ni.
obailala: Whatever the entire SE gets today, it gets more from the centre than it gives. So if it breaks away today, it would be poorer. Fact of life is that it is the SS that feeds the entire nation.
So what are the SE leaders doing to increase revenue today?... Whatever they can do to increase revenue when we split, why cant they do some of those things today to generate revenue and improve the lives of the common man in the SE?.... If you cannot still see what the real big problem is (leadership), then it's a pity.
itiboribo.......SE leaders should do it from their villages.......do you nigerians allow them to rule and put nigeria in their desired shape?........no blame on our leaders cause even them are being marginalised and subdued.........go to hell with you ludicrous advice
itiboribo.......SE leaders should do it from their villages.......do you nigerians allow them to rule and put nigeria in their desired shape?........no blame on our leaders cause even them are being marginalised and subdued.........go to hell with you ludicrous advice
I do not expect a brainwashed IPOB youth to understand my explanations.
OK500: REMEMBER SS IS PART OF BIAFRA( HAUSA/YORUBA DIVIDE AND RULE IS OVER, WE ARE WISER NOW) BUT TAKE THIS AS A PROPHECY OR A REALITY(OR IGNORE IT) - SE HAS A BIG WELL OF RESOURCES UNTTAPED( OIL INCLUSSIVE)....WAIT TILL BIAFRA STANDS!
U r crazy. what make you think SS is part of Biafra?. SS and SE which is bigger and richer? .................... How can a junior be the head of the family?
Arrogant igbos. always talk with force. SS is more formidable than SE in anything; from wealth to population. SS should absorb Biafra not Biafra absorbing SS. HOW CAN PICK-UP CARRY TRAILER?. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR PICK UP TO CARRY TRAILER AND POSSIBLE FOR TRAILER TO CARRY PICK-UP. Igbos should learn how to get manners.
OK500: REMEMBER SS IS PART OF BIAFRA( HAUSA/YORUBA DIVIDE AND RULE IS OVER, WE ARE WISER NOW) BUT TAKE THIS AS A PROPHECY OR A REALITY(OR IGNORE IT) - SE HAS A BIG WELL OF RESOURCES UNTTAPED( OIL INCLUSSIVE)....WAIT TILL BIAFRA STANDS!
SS? keep dreaming... Obviously this idea of including the SS (whether they like it or not), thats what's deceiving most ipob youths not to think of the economic implications of their ill-thought rash decisions. Has any SS/SE conference been organised to seek the consent of the SS?
pazienza: [b] 1. Close down Lagos ports and Open up PH, Calabar, Onitsha and Warri. 2. Cancel all direct and major connecting flights to Lagos and Abuja airports...only local or minimal connecting flights will be allowed. While this is being done, open up Enugu, Owerri, Asaba, Uyo and PH to international flights...direct and major connecting flights. 3. Ask all international and diplomatic missions to move their embassies and consulates from Lagos and Abuja to Enugu, PH and Calabar. 4. All federal governments agencies in Lagos and Abuja shall be relocated to Enugu, PH and Calabar. CBN, NNPC,e.t.c shall and must relocate to PH, Calabar and Enugu. 5. All multinational companies in Lagos and Abuja, shall and must relocate their offices to PH, Calabar and Enugu. 6 Relocate the Nigerian capital to Calabar, PH, Enugu or Asaba
7. If these conditions can be fulfilled and implemented, we can try one Nigeria and let's see if you Hausas and Yorubas will like it for a month. Meaning, Yorubas and Hausas needing to get visas shall travel to PH, Calabar or Enugu to do that. Same with flying or connecting flights, same with shipping and importing their goods, e.t.c. [/b]
Bro i really like your approach to certain issues… but on this I beg to differ. You know why? Cos you are not taking into account human nature. You are appealing to fantasy and emotions. There is no way on this planet a group of people who have managed to lay hands on power can relinquish it because of 'fairness' and 'equity'....cept you take it by hook or crook. The Igbo leaders have no strategy, no tactics, no plans, no agenda to win power. All the above listed items you want done… by whom exactly? There is thing called diplomacy and political maneuvering… you understand its a game and hedge ya bets accordingly. Its no frigging kumbaya party… its a machievellian game of thrones! The Igbos need to learn how the Fulania took over the Hausa city states. Tell Igbo leaders to go learn the game of politics. No one owes you anything you cannot get for yaself. Biafra is a sign of Igbo defeat and surrender to superior players… laughable after reading so many claims to Igbo superior this and that on this forum. That the best you can do?
From the above rant of an ant, it is clearly you do not understand the relationship between leadership and nation state. It is garbage in garbage out. You cannot arrive at good leadership with a zoo such as Nigeria. Leadership does not make Nigerian society but the dysfunctional Nigerian society cranks out idiotic leadership. In order to even begin to think of good leadership, a change of scenery is absolute in order and in this case, it is disintegration of the zoo called Nigeria. Nigeria created Mallam Rochas Okorocha hence he is bent on keep Nigeria even in its dilapidated state. Any sudden move to Biafra or most admirable to me, Republic of Igbo land, will usher in new and young people that would not want Biafra or Igbo land republic to gravitate towards the state of Nigeria as it is today.
Bro i really like your approach to certain issues… but on this I beg to differ. You know why? Cos you are not taking into account human nature. You are appealing to fantasy and emotions. There is no way on this planet a group of people who have managed to lay hands on power can relinquish it because of 'fairness' and 'equity'....cept you take it by hook or crook. The Igbo leaders have no strategy, no tactics, no plans, no agenda to win power. All the above listed items you want done… by whom exactly? There is thing called diplomacy and political maneuvering… you understand its a game and hedge ya bets accordingly. Its no frigging kumbaya party… its a machievellian game of thrones! The Igbos need to learn how the Fulania took over the Hausa city states. Tell Igbo leaders to go learn the game of politics. No one owes you anything you cannot get for yaself. Biafra is a sign of Igbo defeat and surrender to superior players… laughable after reading so many claims to Igbo superior this and that on this forum. That the best you can do?
Lol! The aim of those demands was to expose the hypocrisy of the Arewa-Oduanistans that shout one Nigeria, and to show that their love for one Nigeria is not based on patriotism or love for fellow countrymen, but on selfish, greedy and malicious agenda. And also to expose the folly of Igbos who would join these Arewa-Oduanistans to shout one Nigeria.
I am a Student of history, I had no impression that Arewa-Oduanistans would concede to those demands, why should they? They'd rather secede from one Nigeria than concede those demands, they are into one Nigeria for those Particular gains, and the moment the gains are not there, one Nigeria would lose its attraction for them.
On your last point, I beg to differ. Was it a sign of weakness when Croatians decided they no longer want to share a nation with Serbians, was it a sign of weakness when Singapore decided she nolonger want to share a nation with Malaysians? How about Bangladesh and Pakistan?
Truth is that strange bed fellows are not meant to sleep together. Efforts wasted in playing cat and mouse game with hostile nations of Arewa-Oduanistan while struggling for the soul of a third world country like Nigeria, if well channeled by Biafrans, can be used to build a prosperous Biafran nation that can stand a chance of transiting from third world to first world country in a space of 70 - 100 years max.
CrazyMan: Its no longer news hearing the ongoing protests in various part of the SE by the IPOB youths. In as much as I'm of the SE extraction, I want my fellow South Easterners to be rational and objective in their thinking. Biafra shouldn't be our priority now.
The reasons why I'm of the opinion that Biafra shouldn't be our priority are:
1. Most powerful Igbos leaders are against it: Those of us with strong memories would agree with me that Nnamdi Kanu isn't the first person to follow this path.
Years ago during Obasanjo's administration, Mr Ralph Uwazurike the leader of MASSOB attempted something similar. What was the result...he spent years locked up in an underground cell, his members were jailed many are still in jail as we speak, some even lost their precious lives.
The then igbo leaders who even had the senate leadership then did nothing, why cos they weren't ready to relinquish their positions and Federal Government appointments for Uwazurike's movement.
If nothing was done by the SE leaders then, what makes the youths so certain that they'll lift a finger towards their course now considering the fact that most of our leaders are self centered?
2. Thousands and even millions of South Easterners are likely going to be plunged into the job market upon declaration of Biafra: Its most likely that if the biafran dream is actualized today, Igbos working in various Nigerian government parastatals across the federation would automatically loose their job. Starting from Igbos in the military (Army, Airforce and Navy), to Civil Service, to the Nigerian Police Force, NSCDC, Customs, Immigration, FRSC, EFCC, ICPC, The Ministry, Ministers and Senators from the biafran territory will no longer be recognized in the Nigerian Senate, ...etc.
Can we cope with that, noting that the current economy of some SE states isn't something to be proud about, and we can't even secure employment for those living there how much more when you have a mass exodus of people relocating home. How will they survive?
Germany requested for thousands of Syrian refugees because they have a very good economy to settle them in months.
We should understand that if Biafra is declared, a similar mass exodus would be experienced.
Question is do we have a plan to absorb the thousands who probably would be relieved of their duties by the Nigerian Federal Government into the biafran economy and create such parastatals for them with a short period of time so they can work and take care of their families?
These are questions we need to ask ourselves.
3. The SE is improvised: We deserve a good leadership in the SE not biafra: Currently, we lack good roads, we lack constant electricity, we lack well equipped government primary and secondary schools, we lack portable drinking water...etc. Why should secession be our priority?
Few months ago, Afikpo youths comprising of Amasiri, Edda, Uwanna...etc blocked the roads to protest 2years of blackout in Afikpo. (The thread was even on Nairaland) I witnessed that protest live cos I was in Amasiri (Ebotrans park) en route Abakaliki and was delayed by the protesters for over an hour because the whole roads leading to Abakaliki were all blocked.
If Afikpo which is agurably the second largest town with the best economy in Ebonyi state after Abakaliki can be in darkness for 2years, then I think its time for us to go back to the drawing board. Cos we can't expect the biafra economy to survive in darkness.
We should also be bothered about the number of our educated minds finding their way to other geopolitical zones outside the SE in search of greener pastures. That's another indication to tell us that our economy needs serious rehabilitation.
If we're so bent on making biafra a reality then we should beginning to hold our leaders accountable to every promise they made to us during the past elections
Great nations are ruled by great minds not thieves, crooks and heartless looters camouflaging themselves as leaders to enrich their 20th generation.
It is time for the Igbo youths to come together and reverse the trend of ubiquitous leadership ravishing igbo land and put up a system that would enable the best of us emerge as leaders.
Our leaders are our problem, therefore we should direct our aggression towards them. Because even if the biafran dream becomes a reality, I doubt we would survive up to 3years considering the kind of crooks we have as leaders.
We should try to understand that Biafra isn't the solution to the problems we're currently facing in the SE. If we fail to address the issue of bad leadership then biafra will be a case of "Dead On Arrival".
4. Inability to stand Independently: A child only thinks of leaving his parents home to cater for himself when feels he's matured enough to survive independently.
If we're sincere enough, you'll all agree with me that most SE states cannot survive without FG allocation. Currently people in Ebony are experiencing serious hardship. No thanks to the Governor (Dave) who has slashed their salaries for no good reason. Imo state isn't left out of the suffering as state workers there are also experiencing hardship as well.
We have FG allocations yet our Governors cannot pay their workers, and cannot make the state habitable for its people by providing basic amenities. What do you think would happen if the allocation stops?
A few years back when Rochas announced that he wants all secondary schools in imo state to put on a particular school uniform. Yes it was a welcome development to reduce discrimination's amongst schools. But most people frowned at him when he contracted the job to a Chinese company.
Why would a governor contract a job to a Chinese company for billions of naira when there are so many indigenous companies in the SE that would do it for a far lesser amount?
If our leaders are interested in developing the SE why have they refused to invest in the numerous untapped resources in the SE?
Or are they scared that their successors would become the direct benefactors when they leave office?
Isn't that a myopic way of reasoning?
5. Dis-unity and inability to make accurate political calculations: From the 1999 till date, while people of other regions had managed to unite behind their candidate of choice in virtually all elections that had been held, we have always failed to do so.
I wasn't born during the civil war so I have very little knowledge about Ojukwu's acceptance by the general Igbo populace then.
But I remember vividly in 2003 how he (Ojukwu) lost that election in the SE to PDP's Obasanjo. It was recorded that Obasanjo had a thrilling 69.46% of votes from the SE. If we sincerely wanted power that year why didn't we rally round Ojukwu and give him our support like we did during the civil war?
Even when Alex Ekwueme contested the PDP primaries against Obasanjo the same year (2003). That attempt clearly outlined the dis unity amongst our leaders, because most PDP governors of SE states openly campaigned against their own son and supported the same Obsanjo.
Ever since I became knowledgeable of the events happening around me, I've never witnessed any election in Nigeria where we (Igbos) emphatically agreed and produced a candidate of the Igbo extraction acceptable to the whole nation and backed him aggressively. Just as President Buhari was backed by his kinsmen and practically other tribes.
In all the elections however from 1999-till date, we (Igbos) have failed to present a formidable candidate.
We don't even have a formidable political party to start with in the SE. The APGA which was created by Ojukwu has only the governorship seat in Anambra state to boast of.
The North and the SW easily formed an alliance because they had formidable parties they were all loyal to.
My point is that if we cannot determine our political relevance here in Nigeria, we'll keep having problems among ourselves should biafra become a reality.
Solution: We are all Nigerians so we should work towards the growth of this country. To my IPOB brothers, I will say sheath your swords. Don't waste your precious lives, MASSOB has followed that path, and today their members in jail are yet to get justice and those that lost their lives as a result of the struggle have been forgotten. If you die in this struggle you will be forgotten, your name wouldn't even be mentioned anywhere as a hero. Our leaders don't care, their kids are all abroad so when a stray bullet from a happy trigger policeman hits you, you're gone. No justice!
Anyi Ga-eme Mbaa Ka Ódi Ukwuu Ma Öbúrú Na Agbúrú Nille Ga Etikota Aka Rúó Órú Ma Gharakwa Ì Na-ata Ndi Ózó Uta Mgbe Ihe Mgberede Dakwasiri Anyi.E Kwenyerem Nigïria Ga Adikwa Ukwúú ÖZÖ.
you are a crazy man indeed ,who can't understand the different between a new wine desired by all and an old fermented wine that can never have fresh smell again. Nigeria is old fermented wine that can never produce fresh and good smell again till Christ will come.
OK500: THERE YOU GO AGAIN!! YOU ARE MORE FAR FROM THE REALITY- YOU ARE THE ONE SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF AN EYE OPENER. YOU SPEAK LIKE A BIG COWARD. ITS JUST LIKE ONE OLD YORUBA MAN IN MY NEIGHBOURHOOD TELLING ME THAT ALL WE NEED IS FOLD OUR HANDS AND FLOW WITH NIGERIA WHEREVER THEY FLOW TO- FORWARD OR BACKWARD. MAN! BRAZE- UP FOR A REAL CHANGE. BETTER TO DIE IN THE WAR FRONT THAN SUFFER PERPETUALLY A BONDMAN/SLAVE!!
Look at a fool talking of war front. Have you ever seen what shrapnel from a Howitzer round does to the human body? It would be better for you that you were not born than to die from gas gangrene. That is if the artillery shells do not take you out instanta. You want to fight war with AK-47 when the Nigerian Air Force can pick you off with MiGs and Alpha Jets! Fool you are!
I'm glad that you think so highly of Yoruba people. They are able to control the UN as well as the whole government of Nigeria to be able to fake such statistics.
Lol! The aim of this thread was to expose the hypocrisy of the Arewa-Oduanistans that shout one Nigeria, and to show that their love for one Nigeria is not based on patriotism or love for fellow countrymen, but on selfish, greedy and malicious agenda. And also to expose the folly of Igbos who would join these Arewa-Oduanistans to shout one Nigeria.
I am a Student of history, I had no impression that Arewa-Oduanistans would concede to those demands, why should they? They'd rather secede from one Nigeria than concede those demands, they are into one Nigeria for those Particular gains, and the moment the gains are not there, one Nigeria would lose its attraction for them.
On your last point, I beg to differ. Was it a sign of weakness when Croatians decided they no longer want to share a nation with Serbians, was it a sign of weakness when Singapore decided she nolonger want to share a nation with Malaysians? How about Bangladesh and Pakistan?
Truth is that strange bed fellows are not meant to sleep together. Efforts wasted in playing cat and mouse game with hostile nations of Arewa-Oduanistan while struggling for the soul of a third world country like Nigeria, if well channeled by Biafrans, can be used to build a prosperous Biafran nation that can stand a chance of transiting from third world to first world country in a space of 70 - 100 years max.
And how many Croats living in Bosnia did the Serbians under Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic slaughter? Did you even see these images from the Omarska concentration camp that guys like us were shown in 1993 by a young Christiane Amanpour reporting from Sarajevo?
Have you ever heard of the Prijedor Massacre? Read about this and see what the Serbs did to the Croats!
Did you hear of how 3,000 me and boys were separated from the women in Srebenica in 1995 and slaughtered in a town supposed to be a UN safe haven?
People come here and talk of war as if they have no heads. YouTube is there to teach many of you Biafran agitators lessons of history you were never privy to.
3 million people died in this war. Is this what some people want Nnamdi Kanu to bring upon them while he lives abroad and travels on a Nigerian passport?
And how many Croats living in Bosnia did the Serbians under Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic slaughter? Did you even see these images from the Omarska concentration camp that guys like us were shown in 1993 by a young Christiane Amanpour reporting from Sarajevo?
Have you ever heard of the Prijedor Massacre? Read about this and see what the Serbs did to the Croats!
Did you hear of how 3,000 me and boys were separated from the women in Srebenica in 1995 and slaughtered in a town supposed to be a UN safe haven?
People come here and talk of war as if they have no heads. YouTube is there to teach many of you Biafran agitators lessons of history you were never privy to.
There are many videos of the horrors of the Bosnian war. Look at them and LEARN!
Freedom is priceless and come at great sacrifice.
Biafrans have sacrificed more than that in the past.
What mattered was that in the end, Croatia became a free country, free from Serbians, all those sacrifices were worth it, and future Croatians will ever be proud of their fore runners, who paid for their freedom with Blood.
Come Peace, come war, the only thing that matters is that:
