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| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by aperture11: 9:36am On Nov 12, 2015 |
I like the fact that you really love the SS people. I just hope they can see it. Meanwhile a friend shared this on Facebook and I hope my Biafran friends can take note of it and direct this agitation properly, it is about time. "The Senators that represent the areas agitating for Biafra should stop behaving like hypocrites and Vagabonds! If your people are agitating for these things , kindly present their opinions and move the motion for a referendum and stop behaving as if you are above the aspirations of the people you represent. You are there to serve them. Whilst Kanu in my opinion is just a disillusioned madman, there are real sentiments amongst Ibos for a nation or region of their own. These Senators need to articulate those sentiments and desires. We are running a democracy and we even have a precedent of an autonomous region being created in 1963 by a referendum. Now, when this referendum is granted, the Ibos in Lagos should kindly go and vote in the referendum so that they won't now say after the referendum that those in the east do not represent their interests. The East is not a village you think you can be going to in December and August to show off. No, it is a homeland to real people and it is not for show off so make up your mind." 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 9:40am On Nov 12, 2015 |
NAIJASOM: Now let us assume that GEJ 'failed', what of giving them VP, SFG, AGF, senate president, petroleum ministry, speaker house of reps? If gej is adjudged to be a failure, then obj, yaradua, ibb, buhari, abacha, murtala, shagari, etc, all failed but their tribesmen are still ruling. 8 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Coolabbie: 9:43am On Nov 12, 2015 |
All these wise men from the east who can proffer solutions to the problems in anoda man's land but have no clue on how to solve their own problems. As long as Akwa Abasi Ibom still remains in Nigeria, wetin concern me? 2 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by patrick89(m): 9:50am On Nov 12, 2015 |
most people from south south don't live in core north, so they don't understand the typical behaviour of a core northerner, just like GEJ, he didn't understand them! same thing is happening to amechi! 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Obiagu1(m): 9:54am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Coolabbie: We can actually solve our own problems that's why we are seeking for Biafra, a freedom from internal enslavement and institutionalised suppression. We can't help ourselves much when we cannot formulate policies to lift us out of this decay in Nigeria. It's all about policies and who controls it. We need Biafra, and we shall prove you wrong. 10 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Omololu007(m): 10:23am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Obiagu1:you people should leave the people of the south south alone,let them fight their fight 1 Like |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Abagworo(m): 10:39am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Obiagu1 the truth is that only Igbos refuse to appreciate the fact that the way Nigeria is structured and with interest of world powers put into consideration the North determines our political fate. That is what South South and Southwest know that makes them align with North. Ojukwu realised it before his death and was working towards that. |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 10:44am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Abagworo: Enough of this nonsense.There are better ways of discouraging Igbos from Biafra than typing the rubbish you just wrote. Besides it not true. 10 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Abagworo(m): 10:59am On Nov 12, 2015 |
NAIJASOM: Tell us what's true. I'm not against Igbo country but I'm totally against involving South-South. In simple majority North is more than 50% of Nigerian population. If North votes North and South votes South, then North will always win. 1 Like |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 11:02am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Obiagu1:That's why I always see them as buffoons, except for the some of them who now reason like the Igbos. SSners always think they are wise whilst they are not in the real sense. 5 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 11:08am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Abagworo: The British needed a way to maintain control over Nigeria after independence and they found the northerners to be willing tools. Thats why they rigged the first census to favor the north. But today in the age of Islamic terrorism, if another war breaks out in Nigeria, the British government will find it extremely difficult to supply arms to Nigerian Muslim dominated government against Christians. The things the British and the Nigerian government was able to get away from the past they can't do that today. 4 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 11:14am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Real2020:But tonyebarcanister said those protesters are all Igbos that came to protest in his region SS  6 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Abagworo(m): 11:19am On Nov 12, 2015 |
NAIJASOM: What then were you disputing with me? The truth is that Northerners are the most sincere people in Nigeria to deal with. The world powers know this and will always prefer North as partners . |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 11:28am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Omololu007:The same thing is also applicable to you and your tribe. 6 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by gigabyte13: 11:29am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Kiiikiiikooooohaaaaaaaaaa 100% from biafra? In Tuface voice "E be like say them want to tell me another story again oooooo " The SSners l know, would rather prefer to stand on their than Join biafra. Come to think of it, is that the only thing the biafrants can offer the SSners? I said before the biafrants needs the SSners badly than otherwise. Obiagu1: |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Obiagu1(m): 11:42am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Abagworo: We can't give in to enslavement. Some of our forefathers jumped into the ocean rather than become slaves, others led rebellions all over the Americas notably in Haiti. Some bought their freedom. The point is they NEVER gave up. We can't give in to enslavement. I'm an Igbo and I'm not a slave! We will keep fighting until we are free. We need our brothers down south to shore up our numbers and our strength, one of the main reasons we lost in 1970. They help us gain our freedom and their's by the way, but at the same time get more than what they are expecting, a 100% control of what God gave them. 9 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 11:49am On Nov 12, 2015 |
If Nigeria breaks we will not eve mind having Akwa Ibom state as the capital of our new country (The name will not be Biafra). The new name will be agreed by the Igbos and the good people of Akwa Ibom state. Don't forget that the last president of Biafra was from your region. The Igbos will force no tribe to be part of us, we will accept those that want to stay with us and those that don't want to be with us will be free to stand on their own or join any other groups they so wish. I am saying this loud and clear so that some people will not come here and start shouting, "We are not part of your Biafra, leave us alone, leave our oil alone." The Igbos can do very well without oil. There are many countries in the world without oil and are doing very fine. Germany is the most powerful economy in Europe today and they don't have a cup of crude oil there. Israel moved into a desert and converted it into a country very comfortable for habitation. The list is endless. Recent trends have also shown that oil is becoming worthless by the day. What really matters for a nation to be great is the quality of human resources available. For the parts of the SS that would choose to be part of the new country, we can accept to run a regional system of government between the core Igbo states and parts of the Niger Delta. We can even accept a solution such that both regions would take 90% of revenue accrued within the regions and contribute 10% to the center. This the Niger Delta can never get in this present Nigeria. The Niger Delta will be fully in charge of their resources; they will have more than enough money to try and restore their devastated environments before the oyel runs out. Time is of the essence here but I just don't understand why these 'We SS' people cannot see this. @Obiagu, you are very correct in your original post. For those people from the SS always shouting leave our oyel, I want to tell you that the Northerners are already drinking your oil and have even become drunk on it. You are shouting at Igbos to leave your oyel whereas Northerners are taking the same oil from under your nose and you can do nothing. How myopic and sentimental can some people be? We have been hearing for years that what they want is resource control but that will only happen after the last cup of oyel has been lifted from the irredeemably ravaged ancestral lands of the Niger Delta. I don't know why these people are not wise. Abagworo is right in saying that political power in this country is largely in the hands of the north and I can bet you that there will NEVER be anything like resource control or regionalism until oil dries up in the Niger Delta. Is there a spell cast on the 'SS' people for goodness sakes? The truth is that what is needed is mutual agreement between the SE and peoples of the Niger Delta to come up with something very good. cc Tonyebarcanista/Truckpusher/Coolabbie/ekafine 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Abagworo(m): 11:53am On Nov 12, 2015 |
Obiagu1: The South-South will always prefer to align with the North over Southeast because of same reason the world powers prefer the North. I still wonder why the wise ones like you cannot see it clearly. If we want to achieve Biafra the 1st thing is to purge ourselves from South-South affiliation and then negotiate with North. 1 Like |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Obiagu1(m): 12:01pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Abagworo: How could we purge ourselves from SS affliction when a large chunk of us are part of the SS? How could we when we are surrounded by the SS? Like I said somewhere, Igboland is not a recognised international territory but Biafra is and no nation has ever broken up from unknown borders. We are attached. This is as simple as that. Lastly, for you as an Igbo to have already given in to internal slavery makes me question your heritage. 8 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 12:13pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Abagworo: This all calls for a lot of mental work and diplomacy. I personally think that we can do a trade off. We all know that the north needs oil so that they can survive and we all know that they fought the civil war to keep the Igbos from 'running away' with everybody's food. We can allow the north keep Rivers state while we go with Akwa Ibom. let me quickly add this ofcourse will be done after due consultations with the good people of both Rivers and Akwa Ibom states. We must be ready to negotiate and we must be ready to give something to get something, that is how life works. |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 12:19pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
We should stop making unnecessary concessions to a yet-to-decide people. It doesn't even make much sense attempting to take decision on their behalf. Cease cajoling and co-opting anyone to join the quest for emancipation. There's freedom of association and so allow them show interest and do the seeking. Leave them alone. Stop belittling the Igbo Nation. Let every group determine their future. 3 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Kestolovee95(f): 12:54pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
ARIZONA123: Mr man must always keep making these guys feel relevant? na wa to you o. 2 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Abagworo(m): 1:07pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Obiagu1: Nnaa my mother is from Rivers and I spent all my life here. So it is safe to say I am a Rivers man and I know the politics here. The events before and after the civil war has made an unchangeable impact on the psyche of an average Niger Deltan. I've fought this affiliation war most of my life and realised it will always end in futility. You cannot know more than I do in that aspect. |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 1:22pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Jonathan who was from the ss and could have done more on resource control was there for 6years there was no agitation by these people, diezani stole enough to buy Africa, yet her people in the ss and se were supporting her. now a Fulani man is there suddenly Nigeria is stealing their oyel. it really is very difficult to cure this kind of stvpidity. 3 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 1:26pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Abagworo: I think we should restrict our alliances to the Efik/Ibibio, what do you think? We can negotiate and allow the north keep Rivers & Bayelsa. |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Stangeneral(m): 1:31pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
jusRadical: firstly am nt from south west am from anambra state nigeria .den to ur points sir if not deir oil what will dey gain in biafra? |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by VickJames(m): 1:47pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
EUROBOMBER: eurobomber, do you know how many millions of igbos you are ceding to the north by giving the rivers? please dont say that again. 5 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 1:50pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
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| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by pazienza(m): 2:10pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
[b] aily Independent, Saturday August 5, 2006 We Have Been Left High And Dry – Oloibiri Chief Sunday Foster Inengite (Pesu), 72, is the Chairman of Oloibiri Council of Chiefs. He was 22 years old when Shell BP first went into his community to explore crude oil. Now old and frail, Inengite tells EFE EBELO that Shell carted away the resources of his people and dumped Oloibiri after milking it dry. Inegite says the multinational oil company did this with the aid of the government of the day at the time. What do you remember about the Oloibiri oil wells? Shell started its oil exploration in 1937 in Owerri. From there, they spanned the entire (old) Western region looking for oil. Then, all members of their staff were whites. They came to Adabiri in 1951, then Obama in 1952, and Dorgu Ewoama in 1953. They got to Oloibiri in August 1953. They came with their big equipment and started exploration. We did not know what it was all about; we just saw them with their equipments doing their work at the time. Many people did not even bother to find out what it was all about. They told us they were looking for oil. We thought they meant palm oil and we told them that if that was what they came for, they would find them in abundance. They went ahead to do their work their own way without involving us. We did not bother because we did not see what they were doing as any business of ours. When the District Officers came to inform us that the people were government people and that we should not disturb them as they were in our land to carry out government work, we assured that we were less concerned about what the people were doing since it did not affect us in any way negatively. But around June 1956 when they finally struck oil, they called a very big party and it was then that it began to occur to us that what we had thought was not really the reason they were in our land. By in 1958, they started bringing in big equipment like storage tanks, started installing their pipes and their pumping stations. They were here until 1972, when they had discovered other places and that the oil in Oloibiri was no longer available in commercial quantity. Did they make any promises to you at the time? They did promise to build schools and make a sea wall to prevent the yearly flooding of the town, but none of those was fulfilled. Then a spill occurred, but people did not know, they were just going there and taking out of the water. Epidemic was the next thing; people suffered. Go to the place now, you will not even know that Shell was once here. Go to the place, there is nothing they have left behind for posterity. They have removed their pipes because they are old. But last year, the well they said they had corked, burst open and polluted our land. When there was an outcry, they came and sent experts to clean up the farmland, what about the river, did we see anybody cleaning up the place? It was tidal currents that moved the oil away and after some time, the oil was washed away. There were petitions and representatives were sent to Shell, but nothing came out of it, no compensation. The reason we are complaining today is that in spite of what the European explorers did, our own government does not sympathise with us. From 1966 till the 70’s, this was the only community that produced oil. The Federal Government was paid part of the money and that is what they have used to develop Abuja. Have you oil in Abuja? But look at Abuja and look at Oloibiri, the proverbial goose that lays the golden egg. What infrastructure do you have here? There is no light, no pipe-borne water. A tank was recently installed by Shell, but water has not flowed till now. In the last two years, we have been drinking from the same polluted river. We have a primary school that has been here since the 20’s. For health centre, the government has awarded contract and they are doing renovation work. We have been left like this. We want [/b] https://lists.mayfirst.org/pipermail/friends/2006-August/000877.html 4 Likes |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Obiagu1(m): 2:13pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Abagworo: Speak for yourself and yourself alone and let us continue campaigning to get those that sit on the fence to see reason. Please, stop antagonising us. You've said your mind but leave us alone. 1 Like |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 2:13pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
VickJames: But most times I feel the Efik/Ibibio are more reliable than the others, I may be wrong though.  |
| Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Obiagu1(m): 2:15pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
VickJames: I don't know what to use to qualify that guy. 1 Like |
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