There are so many similarities between these men but Christians will never agree to have copied from anyone else. It would help to note that Krishna lived 2,500 years before Christ and the divinity of Christ came down to a majority vote at Nicaea. Here are some of them
1. Both were god men.
2. Both had virgin mothers
3. Both were quoted as saying that they were the beginning and the end. (BG 10:20; Rev 1 : 8 ).
4. Both claimed to give direction to God's kingdom (BG 2:72, 3:34; 1cor1:23, Rev2 : 14).
So do you still feel the Christ myth is original?
P.S this is an open discussion, but if you have nothing of note to offer, please buzz off.

Where do you get the virgin birth of Krishna?

" ... Then one day Vasudeva, Krishna’s father, and his wife, Devaki, were riding home from their wedding. Devaki’s brother, the demoniac King Kamsa, was driving the chariot. Then a voice of warning came from the sky announcing that Kamsa would be killed by Devaki’s eighth son. Kamsa was immediately ready to kill his sister, but Vasudeva instructed him and talked him out of the idea. Kamsa was still not satisfied, so Vasudeva said he would bring all of the children to Kamsa as they were born. Then Kamsa could kill them. As the children were born, at first Kamsa decided not to kill them..."

"..The Lord also told them of how He had appeared two other times as their son in. the form of Prishnigarbha and Vamanadeva. This was the third time that He was appearing as their son to fulfill their desires..."

Differences:
Krishna preached reincarnation CH.2

...The end of birth is death; the end of death Is birth: this is ordained!..

And on your point of his teachings on the path to heaven......I think he preached a different gospel from Christs...CH 2 Bhagavad:

.. Nought better can betide a martial soul Than lawful war; happy the warrior To whom comes joy of battle - comes, as now, Glorious and fair, unsought; opening for him A gateway unto Heav'n. But, if thou shunn'st This honorable field - a Kshattriya If, knowing thy duty and thy task, thou bidd'st Duty and task go by - that shall be sin!

But thou, be free of the "three qualities," Free of the "pairs of opposites."
1 and free From that sad righteousness which calculates; Self-ruled, Arjuna! simple, satisfied!

2 Look! like as when a tank pours water forth To suit all needs, so do these Brahmans draw Texts for all wants from tank of Holy Writ. But thou, want not! ask not! Find full reward Of doing right in right! Let right deeds be Thy motive , not the fruit which comes from them.

And live in action! Labor! Make thine acts Thy piety, casting all self aside, Contemning gain and merit; equable In good or evil: equability Is Yog, is piety!

Christ on the other hand preaches one life, in which a decision of faith has to be made, and judgement thereafter.
Christ emphasized on change of the heart rater than an outward show or what he called traditions of men. We are saved by faith. Not works, unlike the Krishna philosophy,

Funny how these religions copy the King James Elizabethan English of Thee and Thou. Islam is Arabic, Krishna is Tibetan yet its all Thee and Thou. Fakes.

The Bhagavad Gita was written in Sanskrit not English.

And it makes more sense than bible that plays on peoples emotions and sentiments.


The Bhagavad Gita preaches against attachment and temptation. Though this aspect is a guideline only for renunciates and not for the first 3 stages of material life.

PAGAN9JA:
The Bhagavad Gita was written in Sanskrit not English.

And it makes more sense than bible that plays on peoples emotions and sentiments.


The Bhagavad Gita preaches against attachment and temptation. Though this aspect is a guideline only for renunciates and not for the first 3 stages of material life.

I concur.

muafrika:
Differences:
Krishna preached reincarnation CH.2

And on your point of his teachings on the path to heaven......I think he preached a different gospel from Christs...CH 2 Bhagavad:


Christ on the other hand preaches one life, in which a decision of faith has to be made, and judgement thereafter.
Christ emphasized on change of the heart rater than an outward show or what he called traditions of men. We are saved by faith. Not works, unlike the Krishna philosophy,

Was it not Jesus that said " surely as a man soweth, so also shall he reapeth" ?

Anas09:
Funny how these religions copy the King James Elizabethan English of Thee and Thou. Islam is Arabic, Krishna is Tibetan yet its all Thee and Thou. Fakes.

Gosh!
Was this a joke?

Anas09:
Funny how these religions copy the King James Elizabethan English of Thee and Thou. Islam is Arabic, Krishna is Tibetan yet its all Thee and Thou. Fakes.

You might be shocked that much of Jesus teachings mimic much older oriental philosophies.

Many theological scholars are of the opinion that Jesus most likely journeyed Eastwards to India, Tibet and Ceylon , where he embraced oriental philosophies,.and then coming as an adult to Palestine to reform the primitive goddism of his people.

plaetton:


You might be shocked that much of Jesus teachings mimic much older oriental philosophies.

Many theological scholars are of the opinion that Jesus most likely journeyed Eastwards to India, Tibet and Ceylon , where he embraced oriental philosophies,.and then coming as an adult to Palestine to reform the primitive goddism of his people.

Story for the gods

@Pleatton.
I told u before, I stopped taking u serious long ago. You are like the wave of the sea. Until u take a stand, I shall coontinue to jump over u.

Krishna wasn't born of a virgin, the points is that no man was involved with his mother for his conception

plaetton:


You might be shocked that much of Jesus teachings mimic much older oriental philosophies.

Many theological scholars are of the opinion that Jesus most likely journeyed Eastwards to India, Tibet and Ceylon , where he embraced oriental philosophies,.and then coming as an adult to Palestine to reform the primitive goddism of his people.

That is not true!

1.He at the age of twelve questioned the doctors and elders at Jerusalem. (Luke 2:42-52)
2.Jesus was under 7 when Joseph and Mary settled at Nazareth!
3. He must have been there a long time hence the people He grew up with could say:
Is not this the carpenter’s son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? 56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things

plaetton:


Was it not Jesus that said " surely as a man soweth, so also shall he reapeth" ?

NO. The principle of sowing and reaping, seed time and harvest was first mentioned in Genesis 8!

Anas09:
@Pleatton.
I told u before, I stopped taking u serious long ago. You are like the wave of the sea. Until u take a stand, I shall coontinue to jump over u.

Lol.

Who the fxx cares what you take serious?

After all, you do take the talking snake, the talking donkey seriously.

Whenever I catch you saying something dumb, I shall repudiate and MOCK you.

No where for dumbos to hide in this very public forum.

Scholar8200:
NO. The principle of sowing and reaping, seed time and harvest was first mentioned in Genesis 8!

Lol.
So , are you saying that Jesus never emphasized it in his core teachings?

Scholar8200:
That is not true!

1.He at the age of twelve questioned the doctors and elders at Jerusalem. (Luke 2:42-52)
2.Jesus was under 7 when Joseph and Mary settled at Nazareth!
3. He must have been there a long time hence the people He grew up with could say:
Is not this the carpenter’s son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? 56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things

I love how you guys arrived at what is not true and what is true.

1. At the age of 12, every Jewish male child returns home for his birmitzpha.
It would not be surprising that it must have been an opportunity for the young Jesus to test and showcase his knowledge with the religious and thought leaders of his community.

2. How do you know, and of what relevance is that ?

3. Invalid conjecture based on a false and irrelevant assumptions of #2.

@all

It is actually Kristna and not Krishna.

The Europeans Europeanized it to Krishna to avoid the embarrassing similarity with their Christ.

plaetton:


I love how you guys arrived at what is not true and what is true.

1. At the age of 12, every Jewish male child returns home for his birmitzpha.
It would not be surprising that it must have been an opportunity for the young Jesus to test and showcase his knowledge with the religious and thought leaders of his community.

This was not birmitzpha., it was the yearly passover Luke 2:41. Besides, they went to Jerusalem from Nazareth and returned back there, not Egypt, India or Abuja And considering the points below, which knowledge from where was showcased?

Luke 2:41,51
41 Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them:

2. How do you know, and of what relevance is that ?

Luke 4:16
And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was
This was followed by:
Is not this the carpenter’s son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? etc


Matthew 2:22,23
And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel. 22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judæa in the room of his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee:and he came and dwelt in a city called[b] Nazareth[/b]
(This happened after Herod died around 4BC)

atheist always thinks similarities means one of the same.

That's hw many of them came to the conclusion that humans came from apes.

muafrika:
Differences:
Krishna preached reincarnation CH.2

And on your point of his teachings on the path to heaven......I think he preached a different gospel from Christs...CH 2 Bhagavad:


Christ on the other hand preaches one life, in which a decision of faith has to be made, and judgement thereafter.
Christ emphasized on change of the heart rater than an outward show or what he called traditions of men. We are saved by faith. Not works, unlike the Krishna philosophy,

You have taken one line out of the Gita, completely out of its context and used it to buttress a Christian point. The central message of the Gita transcends the Christian thesis and antithesis of "faith" and "works" it is in fact a dialogue on unparalleled devotion.

plaetton:


I love how you guys arrived at what is not true and what is true.

1. At the age of 12, every Jewish male child returns home for his birmitzpha.
It would not be surprising that it must have been an opportunity for the young Jesus to test and showcase his knowledge with the religious and thought leaders of his community.

2. How do you know, and of what relevance is that ?

3. Invalid conjecture based on a false and irrelevant assumptions of #2.

Seriously ? The way you twist things to conform with the sh.it you read in books tho

Richirich713:
atheist always thinks similarities means one of the same.

That's hw many of them came to the conclusion that humans came from apes.

True in some way , most evolutionists are atheists but very few religious people are evolutionists

KingEbukasBlog:


True in some way , most evolutionists are atheists but very few religious people are evolutionists

Many religious people believe in evolution esp in developed countries. But veryvery few here believe it sh. Evolution is ignored and creation is taken for granted.

KingEbukasBlog:


Seriously ? The way you twist things to conform with the sh.it you read in books tho

Hilarious.
So You actually believe that people read sh.it is in books?
Try stone age books for sh.it.

Your aversion to reading is noted.

No wonder they say if you want to hide anything from a Black man, keep in a book.

plaetton:



No wonder they say if you want to hide anything from a Black man, keep in a book.

Lol

Ive read where you mentioned the names of books you read that "enlightened" you .

Care to list your top 7 ?

UyiIredia:


Many religious people believe in evolution esp in developed countries. But veryvery few here believe it sh. Evolution is ignored and creation is taken for granted.

As a christian and scientist , do you think theistic evolution is ever plausible ? Could the creation story be literal or allegorical ? Did God do it through evolution ? Your views please . Sorry op for derailing

atheistandproud:
There are so many similarities between these men but Christians will never agree to have copied from anyone else. It would help to note that Krishna lived 2,500 years before Christ and the divinity of Christ came down to a majority vote at Nicaea. Here are some of them
1. Both were god men.
2. Both had virgin mothers
3. Both were quoted as saying that they were the beginning and the end. (BG 10:20; Rev 1 : 8 ).
4. Both claimed to give direction to God's kingdom (BG 2:72, 3:34; 1cor1:23, Rev2 : 14).
So do you still feel the Christ myth is original?
P.S this is an open discussion, but if you have nothing of note to offer, please buzz off.

Christ is a historical figure , not a myth and to we Christians he possesses divinity - the Son of God - who came to reconnect or restore man's relationship with God .

KingEbukasBlog:


As a christian and scientist , do you think theistic evolution is ever plausible ? Could the creation story be literal or allegorical ? Did God do it through evolution ? Your views please . Sorry op for derailing

I believe it plausible that God could have made life by evolution but I don't think it is true. And evolution without God is impossible.

There are challenges regarding details of the Genesis story but I think it must be taken literally by Christians, to believe creation is allegorical is to invalidate core precepts of Christianity: the fall of man, sin and death, the uniqueness of the human spirit etc which form the reason for which Christ came to die have always believed in creation. That said, allegorical or true the Genesis creation story is interesting and instructive. I loved to read it a lot.

No, God didn't do it through evolution. He created the universe. I think most people believe in evolution because of peer pressure or materialistic bias and some are honestly mistaken by the so-called overwhelming evidence for it.

KingEbukasBlog:


Christ is a historical figure , not a myth and to we Christians he possesses divinity - the Son of God - who came to reconnect or restore man's relationship with God .

Sure, Jesus was really a guy that existed here on earth. And his divinity....that was what divided the early church. I personally am yet to read up on both sides of the argument.

Richirich713:
atheist always thinks similarities means one of the same.

That's hw many of them came to the conclusion that humans came from apes.

just shaking my head.

Scholar8200:
This was not birmitzpha., it was the yearly passover Luke 2:41. Besides, they went to Jerusalem from Nazareth and returned back there, not Egypt, India or Abuja And considering the points below, which knowledge from where was showcased?

Luke 2:41,51
41 Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them:


Luke 4:16
And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was
This was followed by:
Is not this the carpenter’s son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? etc


Matthew 2:22,23
And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel. 22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judæa in the room of his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee:and he came and dwelt in a city called[b] Nazareth[/b]
(This happened after Herod died around 4BC)

Have any of you ever heard of the lost 18 years of Jesus?