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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:38pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
zimoni: O da, factory worker. Please concentrate o and don't be thinking of filing application at other factory o. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f): 3:40pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
9jacrip: This is not fair ooooo. Ika ko dara oooooo. I'm a QS not a factory worker. No mind tupacshakur jarey. *frowns* |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 3:56pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
DollyParton1: Madam, it is my home town. Baptist's teaching training centre has been on that site for decades before it was converted to Bowen university. It was not a newly acquired land. I know the role the King played in getting all to contribute towards the development of the school, through the various town associations. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DollyParton1(f): 4:13pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
superstar1: Though born and raised in Egbaland, it is safe to say I am from Iwo. And I am baptist. I know of the Baptist Teacher training college. I can categorically tell you that the establishment of Bowen University met some opposition at its initial stage. And yea the King played an important role. He is the reason why there is Bowen University in Iwo because he supported from the beginning. Nigerian Baptist Convention was beginning to look for alternative location for the Uni |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 4:21pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
tupacshakur: Looool. The pit that sent forth humanity into existence. O ye, the great pit and the creator of humanity. The pit makes the world go round and made the world a woman's world. That's why we all (most of us cos a new type of man has been created that's a behindbased legend/goon/bandit lool) love women. ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 4:25pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
9jacrip: Yes. But this era is crazy - only tunes for strippers and calling women out for their BS are winning. ![]() And the ironic thing about it is that: women are the ones supporting these tunes cos women make tunes become hit songs. Shyte, the first time I heard Chris Brown's "Loyal" it was a chic that brought me in. Ditto a lot of other tunes calling women out. ![]() Wale made a tune that should've been top-10 tunes this year called "Matrimony" (definitely my top-5 bangers this year) and the tune never really got that many hits. That just exemplifies this era. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:28pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
[size=16pt]Fed Govt to build 150 housing units in Ondo[/size] As part of efforts in making houses avoidable for Nigerians, the Federal Government has commenced the construction of 150 units of two and three-bedroom flats in Akure, the Ondo State capital. The project, which is being handled by Meadville Building and Construction Company, is expected to be completed within the next three months. Speaking during the inauguration of the programme, the State Controller of the Federal Mortgage Bank, Mrs. Mojisola Gbadebo, advised interested members of the public to key into the National Housing Fund Scheme. Gbadebo said this would enable them to benefit in the acquisition of the buildings as soon as they are completed. She further explained that the project was being sponsored by the bank in collaboration with the Federal Housing Authority Homes under the supervision of the Federal Ministry of Lands and Housing. According to her, a prospective buyer who must be a contributor to the housing fund stands the chance of accessing the loan from the bank with six per cent interest rate with 30 years repayment period. She noted that the amount to charge the contributor depends on his or her income and age, adding that loan is not exclusively for salary earners but all income earners from the age of 18 years. http://thenationonlineng.net/fed-govt-to-build-150-housing-units-in-ondo/ |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 4:28pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
DollyParton1: Omo odidere, The university is in the town, that is the bottom line. Let's move forward jare. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 4:30pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
I absolutely enjoyed the debate about Osun. And may God bless Aareonakakanfo for creating this wonderful thread. At least those of us who don't really know can learn from the posts of folks who know what's going on, without the toxic partisan crap on this forum. This is like a town hall meeting to discuss the plight of the people and rate governance and I'm loving it. Hopefully, Ogun, Oyo, Ekiti, Ondo, Kwara, Kogi, and Lagos folks will also talk about their respective states and their governors. Anyway, is there an plan to build a financial centre in Ibadan? I saw a thread about a proposed financial centre in Ogun state last year, but I don't know that update on that. Ditto the Ondo state Free Trade Zone. Any updates? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:33pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
[size=15pt]Yoruba oral history is scientific after all! – Yale University[/size] The progenitor of the Yoruba race, the warrior king, the mystic creator, the man turned god. Oduduwa. This is what custodians of Yoruba history will tell you. From Oduduwa descended every Yoruba living today. Deep probing will reveal that there was an indigenous population in place before Oduduwa arrived, it will also reveal that within a generation or two afterwards Oduduwa had produced heirs from almost every community, and these princes ruled and had their own heirs. And on and on until every present day Yoruba town has a genetic claim to the great Yoruba deity. Joseph Chang, a statistician at Yale University published a paper in 1999 that came up with this model. Yes, me too! I don’t understand it at all either… But what Chang is saying is, within a specific community (for example Yoruba ), “all individuals who have any descendants among the present-day individuals are actually ancestors of all present-day individuals.” Meaning the fact that Oduduwa has just ONE descendant (Alaafin of Oyo, Onisabe of Sabe etc) among modern day Yoruba’s proves that ALL Yoruba are his descendants. That’s what that diagram is saying! Using a European example Steven Olson a journalist said in his 2002 article “In other words, all Europeans alive today have among their ancestors the same man or woman who lived around 1400. ” Doesn’t that completely tie in with our oral history that says Oduduwa of the 10th or 11th Century is the common ancestor of up to 50 million people (maybe more) of Yoruba descent today? Amazing! My Aborisha brothers and sisters won’t be too impressed by all these exclamations..It’s like saying the science of Ifa and the oral tradition was in question before Chang came up with his mathematic oracle…. But , it’s good to see orthodox science confirming what our traditionalists always knew. For those of us who have no stomach for quadratic equations and Almighty Formulas , the beautiful and mystical Yoruba creation story “Oduduwa -The Story” is available in enchanting verse spoken to very spiritual sounds here. For the children and the young at heart, this lovely illustrated Kindle book ” Oduduwa” provides the oral history and the creation story. This is the diagram below
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:37pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
This is Bbeautiful! What do our in-house scholars have to say about this? Shymm3x,Mayoroflagos,9jacrip,zimoni,modath,dollyparton1,superstar1 As for me.. ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:41pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: As usual, we wait till the whiteman or whiteman's institution tells us whatever we have is right before we take it to be right. Didn't the Ibadan school of history bring the relevance of oral tradition to the fore as a solid source for history writing? I'm unshaken and uninterested in this post really. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:43pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
9jacrip: Eeyah! Inu 9jacrip o dun si ele yi oo. ![]() ![]() But can you educate us more on this? This is the first time I'm seeing this |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:46pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
There's a lot going on in the South-west. News go boku for here today ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 4:47pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
9jacrip: But that's our reality in today's world - sad but the truth. If the white man doesn't cosign us, how will folks think we're doing the right thing? There are over 100 million folks worldwide practising Yoruba religions, but how many Yorubas care about the Yoruba religions? You just have to let those who value what we have, who aren't black, keep spreading the message. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:51pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Shymm3x: I didn't know you were coming from this angle, it flew past my head for a minute. Hip-hop to me in this era is utter BS. You either make stripper music/booty clapping song or you make the Future type of 'rap' music. Funny how pill popping and codeine sipping can create a sub-genre under Hip-Hop ![]() ![]() These chicks promote misogynist songs and when males begin to treat them as such, they begin to brandish feminism. I don't even bother about the artists of this era asides Wale, Kendrick and J. cole. Thank God for Tical's 'Meth Lab' and Redman's new work. I mostly listen to works from way back, the 90s. Just yesterday, I DL'd Eric Sermon's 'Erick Sermon's Perception'. Straight hip-hop. I feel like I'm going off the thread's theme. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tupacshakur(m): 4:52pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
zimoni: I'm not saying your woman might have played on you o, but trust me, these females can't be trusted. Ever heard of Hymenorrhaphy and vaginal rejuvenation? Advanced, gynaecological ones dey, local ones sef dey. You go fucck toto finish, see blood, thinking you have deflowered her, meanwhile, she don reconstruct and renovate the toto for you. ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:54pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
9jacrip I still dey wait ooo. E jo wo! E saanu awa alaimokan ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:59pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
While I wait for some foodie knowledge, [size=15pt]The Vernacular Architecture of the Hidden Ancient Irefin Palace, Ibadan, SW Nigeria[/size] ![]() Ingenuity and wisdom, speaks the creative works of art which were wrought by the aged hands of our ancestors. These can be seen in the way they designed and built their houses and palaces in the days of old. These relics lie strewn across our fast growing cities in Nigeria; we walk and drive past them every and pay little or no attention to them. These works have more to teach us about our values and history as a people and as a nation than even the much diluted present-day media. Here is an ancient palace, said to be over 200years old, was built with mud and timber (wood), and yet still standing strong on the soils of Ibadan city, southwest Nigeria. This palace is located in the tropical rainforest region of Nigeria, enduring over two centuries of countless rainfall and sunshine, and has not collapsed. This palace is definitely a unique cultural, scientific and historical object we must do all we can to preserve. The Irefin palace belongs to one of the Royal families of Ibadan.The Irefin clans were warriors in the days of old who settled in the Ibadan area known then as a resting settlement for travelers. The palace was the abode of a powerful chief in Ibadan enclave, called “Ba’ale Irefin”, who ruled from 1912-1914. Preserved at the ancient palace are ancient diaries showing old records of events that took place at the Erefin Palace in the olden days. Among the numerous rooms in the palace are the clan’s ‘spiritual powerhouse’ and the judgment room where misunderstandings within the clan are resolved or punishment meted out to the iniquitous. It is worthy of note to mention here that a part of the palace was used in the popular old Nollywood movie Saworoide. It is however sad to know that the palace, although still occupied by the Irefin clan, is not treated as a historical object of great worth. The environment is dirty and not well taken care of, as dirt litter the floors and corners, and smokes from cooking fire places staining the old walls and roofs with sooth. See photos of our recent visit to the ancient palace here. Some old photos of the Irefin Palace taken in 1985 (scroll down to see) shows that at some point between 1985 and now, some parts of the palace was redesigned/reconstructed as it looks a little bit different. The photos below demonstrate some of the vernacular architecture features of the Irefin palace: ![]() Gable-roof entrance of Irefin Palace. ![]() Beautiful and Interesting fascia board design at the entrance to the Irefin Palace. ![]() Arch-styled bottom roof rafters at the gable-roof entrance to the palace. ![]() Notice the wide corridor between the pillars at the main entrance and the main doors into the building. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:59pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: Inu mi o dun rara. You'd find some half-baked historians in the academia entertaining the strength of oral tradition right about now just because of this - if the news spread. What do you want me to speak on? Your post or Ibadan school? There's not much to discuss other than, originally, the history of Africans was the activities of the Whites in Africa. Some historians, say as a result of wave of nationalism blowing across Africa and their brilliance started a movement to incorporate every arm of oral tradition - poems, oriki, tradition of origin, panegyrics etc into the process of connecting the dots of historical details in African history. As a result, they were able to go back in time, pre contact with Europe to re-write history of Africans. Of course, the Europeans frowned at this but the fathers of history from this era were able to create a standard which eventually washed of the history of Europeans in Africa; hitherto referred as history of Africa. The kenneth Dikes, Saburi Biobakus, J.F.A. Ajayis, Obaro Ikimes, E.A. Ayandeles to mention a few started what is known as African historiography. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 5:00pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
DollyParton1: Babe, you have your story all muddled up, the firing of teachers' drama was baba Bisi Akande & that was what cost him a 2nd term coupled with OBJ's zero opposition annihilation of AD that left only BAT standing... I remeber one of his reasons then for firing Religious studies teachers was that "children already attend churches & go to mosque, so it was pointless doubling up" ... I'm still in shock but the most shocking part of everything is that someone informed me sometime ago that Baba Bisi is the brain behind BAT that Tinubu only provides the FINANCIAL muscle!! |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 5:00pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Shymm3x: True. Thanks to Olodumare for the foreigners picking up the religion, it strikes a sense of guilt in the local Yoruba to pick up their ancestral belief or at least tone down on considering it as devilish. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 5:08pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
tupacshakur: Bro, take it easy yo! Do not down the spirit of uncle factory worker, I'm sure he's experienced enough to detect any falsity from the body language. Apart from that, I believe he must have done a proper background check on the relationship history of the woman to be confident in her. I personally do not ask a female or hold discussions of virginity with a female. I do not give a hoot about it - if we hit and I discover untapped crude oyel well, good. If we hit and I see it is Oloibiri oyel well, then no more visitations except the girl's sex game is top notch. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 5:10pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
DollyParton1: Goddamn! Looool! Yoruba chics and money are siamese twins. I seldom meet a Yoruba chic who doesn't like money/expensive-lifestyle. And when they can't get it, they create a fake reality for themselves by mouthing off about things they'll only be able to afford in their dreams. ![]() The real smart chics that get these things don't chase them. They get on the pursuit of happiness train, and these things get added to them cos all the glitters isn't gold and the real bad boys move in silence. The typical young blood isn't a gigolo - he's just there to give the chics what they want. And chics just wanna have fun. ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 5:10pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
More of the Irefin Palace ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Creative door design at the palace ![]() Wooden staircase to the upper floor of the palace ![]() The upper-floor staircase landing area. Notice the design on the wooden rails, the wooden floor and wall demarcation [size=13pt]The Photos Below show Irefin Palace in 1985[/size] ![]() Notice how different the palace entrance looks from its present day state. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 5:15pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Hmmmmn 9jacrip/Shymm3x true talk! But what can we do about the issue of waiting for reds to cosign us? We Yorubas especially What steps do we need to take? I once suggested the idea of making Yoruba history compulsory in South-west schools |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 5:18pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
DollyParton1: Actually, I was quite lost with your post because from my general knowledge of Oyinlola's administration, people were not owed. He made sure his recurrent expenditure was functional and untouched. Health sector, I can't speak on it but haven't Oyo and Osun had none stop problems over LAUTECH? If a person can, from an averagely rich state, fund the erection of a university with a multi campus system, with all the equipment/tools found in modern universities, did some sort of contract with a university in Ukraine for Medical students funded by the state, hired and retained international standard professors such as Prof Adesina, Prof, Olukoju, Prof Omojola etc. to mention a few - then we can say the person did something right. Compared to someone who implemented policies that the multi campus system is being considered for unification over money, university amenities/tools/equipment are either not enough or non functional, bus system operated by the school is dead, all the top notch professors have all left, Ukraine training for Medical students has stopped except parents pay for it, strike that was non-existent is now a norm, a 3 year and about 6 months course has now extended to 5/6 years to mention a few problems. Aregbe turned the state upside down. I don't know who is worse, Aregbe or Jonathan. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 5:18pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: See Aare o! E fe ma mumi sere ni sa. ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 5:19pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
9jacrip: Loool. Women for you right there. They love the misogynist tunes and can recite the lyrics word for word. But turn around and start blaming guys for being misogynistic. ![]() Apart from Wale, Kendrick, and J. Cole - Schoolboy Q, Absoul, Jay Rock, Fashawn, Vince Staples, Vic Mensa, and Joey Bada$$’ are also decent. Cool. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 5:19pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
tupacshakur: Gangsta! Gangsta!! Gangsta!!! And the legend of Tupacshakur strikes again. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 5:21pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: I'm good with that idea. I did history in Baptist Academy then, not knowing I was going to end up studying history as a discipline at the University level. Apart from the academic side of it, studying it creates a sense of attachment to one's culture history. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 5:22pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
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