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Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Ballmer: 6:42am On Nov 13, 2015 |
EternalTruths: The OSU free born you mean to say ? Have you read about Yoruba history with slaves rising to become kings ? It abound on the net. Do a Google search. My tribe does not celebrate foolishness as a 21 century norm. Where will you push the Igbo OSU after you have gotten Biafra or do you think Lagos will be housing your outcasts ? How many OSU outcast will Biafra be chumming out yearly. I did not read about that in the about three pages of garbage you n your likes have been dishing out. |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by pazienza(m): 6:54am On Nov 13, 2015 |
Rotimi47: Now you have changed from being a Yoruba to a Niger deltan. What is it with you Yorubas and dishonesty, deceit and treachery? Why does SE and SS union give you nightmares, so much that you go around to either claim to be from SS and spew anti Igbo comments or just claim to be from an anonymous ethnic group just yo put a wedge between SE and SS. Are you people cursed? 4 Likes |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Ballmer: 6:54am On Nov 13, 2015 |
warrior01:Did you remember when Tunde led the protest to have Jonathan installed as the president ? That the entire Igbo population were too timid to say a word. What disgrace to the tribe of chest beater mofos and here you are labelling yourself a warrior smh4 your unborn generation. What is the essence of your chest best when the you can not lead a fight for your own ? The Yoruba you antagonise at the end of the day are the ones that stood up to be counted while you hid underneath your mothers bed |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by pazienza(m): 7:37am On Nov 13, 2015 |
I can already hear my fellow Igbos puting the blame of Eyo ita saga on Zik. We must desist from doing such as that was never the truth. And worst still, when you put the Eyo ita saga blame on Zik, you see just Zik as an Igbo, but in the perception of an Efik man, Zik is Igbo and Igbo is Zik. Eyo ita fall will now be twisted by them to represent proof of Igbo oppression and domination of Eastern non Igbo groups, even when no such thing existed. So when you put Eyo ita fall from Grace on Zik, you have unconsciously put his fall on Ndiigbo. Perception is everything. In as much as we want to rebuild our bond with the Eastern non Igbo groups, such bond must not be build on lies that are detrimental to the Igbo nation just to please or soothe the sensibilities of people. I will repost posts of mine on this Eyo ita saga here. When I am through, I want all Igbos and non Igbo Easterners here to be the judge. The problem of our fore runners was that they never cared about non Igbos perception of Ndiigbo, they naively believed that once they keep their hands clean , work hard and work in the spirit of equity and justice, that it would be enough. Our enemies in the Lagos-Ibadan press capitalized on that weakness and twisted the perception of the entire Nigeria against us. I have read about the highly Igbophobic "Yoruba ronu" speech of Akintola, the Igbophobic Saraduna speeches and the the toxic and victimizing article by the Oba of Bini, Oba Akenzua the second, on Ndiigbo, but not once did I read strong and violent rebuttal from the Igbo elites of those era against those lies. They made no effort to debunk those lies and multiple others coming from different angles in the then tribally charged Nigeria, they simply ignored them all, and those lies were repeated often and on unchallenged, until they began to form people perception of Ndiigbo. That was a grave mistake, that this generation of Ndiigbo must not repeat. We must not allowour bitter enemies form people perception about us, we must debunk all their lies and evil propaganda and expose them for demons they are. Perception is everything in the human world. Dalu kwanu. 3 Likes |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by pazienza(m): 7:39am On Nov 13, 2015 |
Now to the matter of Zik-Eyo Ita face- off:On the eve of the 1951 elections in which Azikiwe contested for a seat in the Western House of Assembly from his Lagos base, Zik declared that he was not going to accept a ministerial post in “an inferior legislature of the colonial type”. In other words, he was not prepared to serve as minister (premier or prime- minister) at regional or national level in the then premature Nigerian political system. His object, he said, was to achieve an NCNC majority in the regional and central legislatures that would act to “paralyse the machinery of government” and lead to a reformation of the Constitution.The Macpherson Constitution had provided for “semi-responsible government” at the centre and in the regions. The official phrase was “responsible government within defined limits”. Zik did not accept this. He wanted total independence. This was what informed his declaration above. It was a grand tactics for national independence that the Action Group later imbibed. After the upheavals in the Western House of Assembly,Zik began to rally his partymen to the achievement of the above-stated objectives. This took some time. Eventually, however, the NCNC resolved and called its central ministers to resign in order to actualise the above independence strategy. But these ministers were now enjoying their new stations in life, the perquisites of ministerial office. Some of them did not, therefore, want to give up the positions. In so doing, they were undoubtedly sabotaging and delaying the independence struggle that had already got them to where they were. Three NCNC central (national) ministers were the first culprits and were summarily dismissed from the party. They were A.C.Nwapa (Igbo), EniNjoku (Igbo) and Okoi Arikpo(Ogoja). ONLY DrEndeley (Cameroun) was supportive of the tactics.Eyo Ita, the Head of Government Business in Eastern Nigeria and some of his ministers picked against the policy and were flabbergasted when the central ministers were dismissed by the party. Of course, when the party asked them to resign, they equally rebelled against the party and refused to comply. They became known as ‘sit-tight ministers’. Amongst them wereEyoIta (Ibibio),E.I.Oli (Igbo), S.J.Una (Ogoja), R.I.Uzoma (Igbo), S.W.Ubani-Ukoma (Igbo) and S.J.Koripoma (Ijaw). Those who complied with party directive and resigned were Dr.M.I.Okpara (Igbo), M.C.Awgu (Igbo) and S.T.Muna (Bamenda, Cameroun). 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by pazienza(m): 7:54am On Nov 13, 2015 |
A simple look at those who backed Eyo Ita against Zik will show the non tribal nature of the East. Eyo ita was backed by E.I Oli( an Igbo) S.j una( ogoja), R.I uzoma( Igbo) S.W Ubani-Ukoma( Igbo) and S.J Koripoma( Ijaw). To suggest that Eyo ita loss was tribally motivated and not ideologically motivated, when we can clearly see that the majority of Eyo ita accomplices were Igbo, amounts to dishonesty and historical revisionism. The East was united by shared ideology not ethnicity like in the West where the minorities including the Oba of Bini were treated like dogs. 4 Likes |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by pazienza(m): 7:58am On Nov 13, 2015 |
[b] With the above ‘sit-tight’ attitude of some of the ministers, it behoved the legislature to orchestrate the requisite action to paralyse government business, which was practically in the hands of the British Lt. Governor. In the Eastern House of Assembly, the NCNC majority subsequently succeeded in paralysing the constitutional system by voting to defeat or defer every bill before the House. As a last resort, the Lt. Governor was obliged to use his reserve power of legislation, the ultimate proof of colonial rule and subjugation in a politically advanced dependency, to pass the Regional Appropriation Bill into law. On adjournment day, the expelled ministers (Central and Regional) joined with a few other legislators and supporters who had resigned from the NCNC to form a new party, the National Independence Party, with EyoIta as president. Some 10 weeks later, the Eastern parliamentary crisis was resolved by dissolution of the Eastern House of Assembly following the enactment of an amendment to the Constitution permitting the dissolution of the legislature of a single region. During this period, according to Sklar, the strain on the Constitution was not confined to the Eastern Region, as events of a less dramatic but nonetheless fateful character transpired in the West. Action Group’s hostility to the Constitution was scarcely less than that of the NCNC. Ultimately, the Macpherson Constitution proved unworkable and collapsed as Zik had planned after 15 months of its operation and was replaced with a new Constitution (the Lyttleton Constitution of 1954) that granted residual powers to the regions and provided that apart from the Regional Governor, colonial officials of the administration would be excluded from the Executive Council of the Eastern and Western Regions, amongst other favourable provisions. Meanwhile, with the collapse of EyoIta’s government in May 1953, a new election was conducted to elect new members to the Eastern House of Assembly. Azikiwe was elected from Onitsha; NCNC dominated the House and its leader, Azikiwe, assumed the office of premier or head of government. Eyo Ita as leader of the minor party in the House became leader of Opposition.For details of these historical facts, see Richard L. Sklar, Nigerian Political Parties (1963), pages 115 – 140. Amplifications of particular points can also be gleaned from James S. Coleman, Nigeria: Background to Nationalism (1958). Given the above prognosis, would it be wise and correct for anybody to claim thatZik or the Igbo conspired to oust Eyo Ita from power? Or that the constitutional crisis that terminated EyoIta’s government was tribally motivated? But this is the verdict or notion that has been transmitted from generation to generation in the South-South. Finally, let me recap that in October 1959, Professor EyoIta, Head of Government Business and Minister of Natural Resources of Eastern Nigeria from 1952 to May 1953, resigned his leadership and membership of united national independent party ( UNIP) and rejoined NCNC[/b] So, Eyo Ita fell from Grace to grass, and despite the fact that he enjoyed Igbo support, Eyo ita will descend low to the old tested and trusted " Igbo want to dominate us" mantra, he became the New poster boy for the COR movement, but when that wasn't yielding dividends, because while he was preaching "Igbophobia", NCNC still had henchmen like Mbu from COR area, showing the people the truth. Eyo ita, will later rejoin NCNC in October 1959. In a typical if you can't beat them, you join them, Nigerian politicians style. 3 Likes |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by pazienza(m): 8:14am On Nov 13, 2015 |
He had formed the National Independence Party which later merged with Alvan Ikoku’s United National Party to become UNIP. EyoIta proclaimed that he was re- joining the NCNC in accordance with the dictates of his conscience and in obedience to the chiefs and members of his Calabar constituency. These events indicate that the problem between Azikiwe and his compeer, EyoIta, was somehow resolved in their lifetime. Or that Eyo Ita personally resolved that what happened in 1953 did not warrant his taking steps that tore the party and the people apart. Hence, he talked about the “dictates of his conscience” as he returned to the NCNC. So what is the basis for Aladinma’s actions or utterances in this matter? And oh! Look, even when Eyo Ita became the poster boy of the agitation for COR, he had the support of men like Alvan Ikoku, but that doesn't matter right? And ehm... Pa Eyo Ita returned to NCNC with a guilty conscience, he of course knew he had been lying against Ndiigbo too. And look, the Calabar chiefs and his people were part of the reason he confessed that made him return to the NCNC fold. Don't forget that while Oba of Bini was relegated to a second class traditional ruler in the Western house, the Obong of Calabar was elevated above Igbo kings like Eze Aro, Eze Nri, Obi of Onitsha, Obi of Obosi, etc Obong was the leader of the Eastern house of chiefs, now how about that? The Igbo belief in equity and justice had no rival, even Eyo ita knew that. 3 Likes |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by pazienza(m): 8:16am On Nov 13, 2015 |
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Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 8:17am On Nov 13, 2015 |
Abagworo: A bag of work, ogini kwa Have u also turned igbo Abeg hold ur self sha |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 8:19am On Nov 13, 2015 |
Abagworo: SS has NOTHING to do with d north n they never will. |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 8:38am On Nov 13, 2015 |
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Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Rotimi47: 10:57am On Nov 13, 2015 |
pazienza:Are you're people cursed from above? I am first a Nigerian who is from a tribe called Yoruba and my part of Yoruba is situated in the Niger Delta, further more; I am also related to the Edos, my case is very different from what you are thinking upstairs as I am a true Nigerian. I don't have to explain myself more as many of you will never understand. I cannot be brainwashed by anyone unlike many because I have lived all over Nigeria at one time or the other and as such I know what is really going on not like people who hardly ever live outside their state/region. Your union/alliance with any tribe you wish to form alliance with mean nothing to me but the way you people twist facts and then bring Yoruba into it is what I have issues with; try & do your fighting without bringing we the Yorubas into it and you will definitely be better off doing so but if not you will continue to be on the long thing. Finally, let me also say that I am well travelled if you understand what I mean by this particular statement. |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by pazienza(m): 11:41am On Nov 13, 2015 |
Rotimi47: No part of Yoruba is situated in SS, if you mean Niger delta, then even Imo and Abia are there together with ondo. If you Yorubas stay off Biafra issues, we will leave you lots alone, but you obviously can't, so it's our duty to expose and debunk your lies, and even demonize you, if need be. 3 Likes |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Duru1(m): 11:45am On Nov 13, 2015 |
Obiagu1: I have no pity whatsoever for those scallywags that parade themselves as south-south and remains the main reason I strongly insist on the Republic of Igbo land. I guess not every domesticated jackass is worthy of being a compatriot. There are those who will remain a fool forever, period. 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Ngwaukwu1(m): 11:58am On Nov 13, 2015 |
coolscott: . . . pretty much the same mindset of those group of slaves who wondered why others were willing to sacrifice their lives in order to be rid of their chains. 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Rotimi47: 12:13pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
pazienza:You like twisting facts about the Niger Delta? You should keep shut if you don't know anything about Niger Delta as you people are known for twisting facts! How will you tell someone who is from a place that he is not from that area? You can't determine where am from because its Gods programmed & geography took its course and this you can't change even if you wish for a trillion years. About Biafra issue; the Igbos are the ones who believe that the Yorubas are the one holding them back and as such you keep dragging Yorubas into all your arguments while claiming you're capable of going all the way on your own. As per demonizing; laughing in Swahili you will not only be demonized but we will put you in the same league as SATAN, except you take our names off your lips. Finally, do note that if you people keep coming at us, we will keep getting at you and i believe you don't need rocket science to know/understand this. IT'S SIMPLE AS ABC. |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by jpphilips(m): 12:18pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Obiagu1: What pointer do you have that Biafra will guarantee 100% resource control for Niger delta? your propagandist Nnamdi Kanu has never mentioned "Niger delta oil" but "Biafran oil" don't you get? does Nnamdi Kanu's village produce oil? does his father suffer the environmental pollution associated with oil exploration? If Biafra guarantees 100% resource control for the SS, what will the SE feed on? No ports for importation means no IGR dont you get? 100% resource control for Niger delta in Biafra is practically impossible. No doubt SS deserve a larger share but Hey!! we are not dumb to believe Biafra is the answer, try again bros!! 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Duru1(m): 12:29pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
jpphilips: It is pity most Nigerians are starkly ill-educated. Besides tribalism, the next inhibiting factor in Nigeria is dishonesty. There is no doubt you are not from SE hence the idiotic question about what they should eat. I guess you are the basement ninny feeding the SE today. Besides the idiotic SS crap, may I ask your ethnicity that you are so ashamed? By the way, one of the best economies in Africa is situated in a landlocked country with no single drop of crude oil. 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by jpphilips(m): 12:38pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
pazienza: I am familiar with this story, the book "Politics of regional Nigeria" highlighted most of your points, it's been long I read it during my school days so i rather not misplace my facts. I want you to appreciate how the Igbos dominated the Eastern regional government, I wish I could compile the various offices available in the Eastern region and place it in tandem with composite tribes, the truth is that a Biafran alliance will marginalise the SS because Igbos will definitely dominate the polity, SS leadership should be doing real strategizing with this Biafran proposal 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by jpphilips(m): 12:41pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Duru1: When next you desire to feature on my mention, first you need to do a little research before you respond to my posts, because I do a bit of mental juggling before replying people, where you don't, you put me on a mental disadvantage. I hate being cheated!! 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by jpphilips(m): 12:45pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Duru1: You just got your wisdom from Nnamdi Kalu's propaganda I suppose? 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by coolscott(m): 1:05pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Ngwaukwu1:[size=13pt]A ha! You are wrong there because the white man knew blacks were smart and could learn. For fear of the possibility of growth for the black man caused the white man to try to keep black slaves down. Made it even illegal for them to read books. In your case, even the concept of Igbo persecution does not transcend the realm of mere persecution complex. The one found among Arab Palestinians.[/size] |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Obiagu1(m): 3:03pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
wirinet: You basically answered yourself. Paying tax does not mean you don't control a company 100%. Land owners with oil resources control them 100% and pay tax just like a grocery store in the town. Talking about being intellectually sound. Mtcheew! 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Obiagu1(m): 3:08pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
staymore: We are saying that agitation for Biafra is to take what you are stealing from the SS and give it back to them. |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Obiagu1(m): 3:20pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
jpphilips: Yes it is Biafran oil because it belongs to Biafra. Yes every province will control their resources 100%. Nobody needs your oil, keep it to yourself because every province has it's own oil. In 45 years time, you'll be on your knees begging Igbo Province for financial support. 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by mentorandfriend(m): 3:37pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
ekenedegreat:I pity any reasonable South south person who will want to align with hateful, vengeful, bitter people like you guys. See the way he describes the people he wants to join them in Biafran struggle. Tufiakwa!!! 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 3:45pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
mentorandfriend:TRASH!!! I only want them to sit up and face reality that's all. So, I don't know what you're saying. 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Nobody: 3:51pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
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Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by jpphilips(m): 8:28pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Obiagu1: 45yrs? why not 5yrs? 1 Like |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by Obiagu1(m): 11:06pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
jpphilips: That's when the oil will be depleted and everyone comes back to a level ground. 2 Likes |
Re: I See No Wisdom In The South South by jpphilips(m): 12:33pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Obiagu1: Can you show me a credible evidence that support your claim? 1 Like |
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