AlBaqir:

2. BATTLE OF UHUD [3 A.H]
# Imam al-Tabari (d.310H):

Narrated Abu Hisham al-Rafi from Abu Bakr Ibn Ayyash from Hasim Ibn Kulayb from his father who said:

Umar preached on the day of Friday and recited Surah Aal-Imran and liked it when he reached {Those of you who turned back on the day the two hosts met}[3:155] he said: 'In the day of Uhud when we ran away, so I ran away and climbed the mountain, and I saw myself running and jumping like a mountain goat. And the people were saying: Muhammad is killed! I said: anyone who says Muhammad is killed I will kill him! Until we gathered on the mountain and the verse {Those of you who turned back on the day the two hosts met} was revealed in complete.
Source: Tafsir Jami al-Bayan. Vol.6, pg.#172

Each narrator's trustworthiness are confirmed:

1. Abu Hisham al-Rafi

* Al-Dhahabi:

"Al-Rafi (narrated from him Muslim, al-Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah): Al-Imam al-Faqeeh al-Hafiz al-Allamah, judge of Baghdad..." {Siyar Ahlam Al-Nubala, vol.12, pg #153; Tarikh al-Baghdad vol.4, p.#595-597}


2. Abu Bakr ibn Ayyash

* Al-Dhahabi:

Abu Bakr ibn Ayyash Ibn Salem al-Asadi, Maula of the Asad tribe, Al-Hannat, Al-Moqerri, 'Al-Faqeeh, Al-Muhaddith, Sheik al-Islam...."
{Tahdheeb Siyar Ahlam Al-Nubala, vol.1, p.#303}

3. Hasim Ibn Kulayb

* Al-Mizzi:

Hasim Ibn Kulayb...[narrated from him, Bukhari in his Tarikh, Muslim in his Sahih, and the four: Tirmidhi, Abi Dawud, Nasa'i, and Ibn Majah]. Narrated Abu Bakr Al-Athram from Ahmad Ibn Hanbal who said: There is no problem in his narrations....He is trustworthy. Al-Nasa'i said the same..."
{Tahdheeb Al-Kamal, vol.13, pg.#537-539}

* Muhammad Ibn Sa'd:

Hasim Ibn Kulayb...Died in the beginning of Abi Ja'far's caliphate. He was trustworthy, his narrations are to be trusted, he has not many narrations.
{Al-Tabaqat Al-Kabir, vol.8, p.#460}

4. Kulayb Ibn Shahab

* Ibn Abdul Barr:
Kulayb Ibn Shahab Al-Jarami, father of Hasim Ibn Kulayb, and his father Shahab was a companion. {Al-Istiab, vol.3, p.#1329}

* Muhammad Ibn Sa'd:
Kulayb Ibn Shahab Al-Jarami from the tribe of Bani Qodha'a, he was the father of Hasim Ibn Kulayb. He has narrated from Umar, Ali and he is trustworthy...
{Al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, vol.8, pg.243}

# Ibn Munzir in his Tafsir Ibn Munzir, vol.1, pg. #402 also narrated through another chain.

# Imam Fakhr al-Razi:

The summary of narrations is that a group of them [Sahaba] ran away and went far away, some of them entered Madina, some of them ran to other districts, but most of them went to the mountain and gathered there. Among those who escaped was Umar, but he was not among the first ones who escaped and he did not run far away, but he remained on the mountain and waited there until Messenger of Allah climbed the mountain! Among those who escaped was Uthman who escaped with two other men of Ansar, their names were Sa'd and Uqba, they ran away until they reached a far place and came back after three days! Then Prophet Said to them: 'You ran a far distance!'
{Tafsir Fakhr al-Razi Mafatih al-Ghayb, vol.9, p.52}

AlBaqir:

We (Shia) have over many centuries after the demise of the holy prophet (saws) presented our 12 Imams as being successor of the holy prophet, it is alarming that Ahl Sunna wal Jama'a (past or present) have NEVER reach any conclusion as who were those 12 as many of their Khalifas were monsters, murderers, adulterers and devil incarnates.

AlBaqir:

There is a narration in Tafsir al-Ayyashi which states that the Prophet (pbuh) was poisoned by his two wives, A’isha and Hafsa.

AlBaqir:
@golpen,
Yes I have a big problem with them, dear brother. I need answers because I just can't reconcile sahaba, accusing my beloved prophet a derailed, prevented him from writing his will on his death-bed that would have saved u from perdition,doubting his prophethood, ran away from war and left him(a.s) with his enemies, killed his family yet being promised al-jannah despite Allah saying: "if you raise your voice or abuse prophet...your deeds will be void", Allah frown and will punish those who ran away and left the prophet in war, etc.
As for me, if I follow those sahaba footsteps, then am doomed but if I follow the righteous among them, then success is mine. They are all examples for us and the choice is ours on who to follow.

BETATRON:
lol uthman should be a yoruba man.who runs first before knowing why he ran.."Came back after three days" hehehe
Nice piece again

BETATRON:
lol uthman should be a yoruba man.who runs first before knowing why he ran.."Came back after three days" hehehe

Nice piece again

kazlaw2000:

The person that made this comment should fear Allaah. Pls check Suura Hashr, verse 10 to see why I say so. Are you/we better than Uthmaan? Pls repent now so Allaah may not visit you with a chastisement soon. You don't mess with Allaah's friends.

kazlaw2000:

The person that made this comment should fear Allaah. Pls check Suura Hashr, verse 10 to see why I say so. Are you/we better than Uthmaan? Pls repent now so Allaah may not visit you with a chastisement soon. You don't mess with Allaah's friends.

HAkorehdeh:
@empi.ree , it's just really disgraceful when i read some people's comments. I left ummah forum when discovered i couldn't stand it anymore. There, i think it's quite different, the major players/sectarian fighters there are the salafi, ahl hadith, berelevis, deobandi, tableeg jama' ah , a very little percent is the shia.
I'd always have a deep 'rethink' before viewing any new thread, people always attack themselves.
I thought this place would be quite fair. Never knew there are a lot of em here too. I fear the real time of the salafi-shia war sha.

HAkorehdeh:
Nl islam for Muslim section... I'm gonna unfollow this section soon in Sha Allah. It's really too disturbing the way people insult and embarrass themselves. The truth is there's really hatred, enmity, and animosity in this section, and not only in this forum , i am also a member of an online Muslim forum 'ummah'. People call themselves names, make takfir etc. I just wonder if this people were to meet physically, what could have happened?
Just another reason why i don't still believe Islam is completely clean from terrorism, even after seeing some people claiming ISIS /BH are Christians/jews base on their own research.

MrOlai:
This is what Allah(SWT) says about those companions of the Prophet(SAW) and those that follow them:
"

وَالسَّابِقُونَ الْأَوَّلُونَ مِنَ الْمُهَاجِرِينَ وَالْأَنْصَارِ وَالَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُمْ بِإِحْسَانٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا عَنْهُ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي تَحْتَهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ
"
"As for the first pioneers who accepted Islam from the Muhajir (immigrants) and Ansar (supporters in Madinah) and those who follow them in good deeds, Allah is well pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. He has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they shall live forever: that is the mighty achievement."
(Q.9:100)

MrOlai:


I appreciate your concern about the need for unity and cooperation among the Muslims. Masha Allah! However, it would be very wrong of you to make any criticism when you keep silent while noble companions of the Prophet(SAW) and His household are being badmouthed!

Evils are being said about one of the noble companions of the Prophet(SAW) in person of Umar(R.A) here, you didn't see anything wrong with that! You didn't complain about that! Please, try to purify your intention! Those noble companions are far better than us and our parents before Allah(SWT). If somebody abuses any of our parents, for instance, we would not take it lightly with the person. Now, we are talking about the companions of the Prophet(SAW) whom Allah(SWT) Himself certified for paradise even right before they left the surface of the Earth. Please, purify your intention once again!

HAkorehdeh:
Intention purification? I assume that is why i am trying to be considerate.. I began knowing about the Shia not long after knowing about the salafi (both quite recently). I have no problem with any body (i don't ever want to). But what i noticed about some people here including you is that they hardly consider other people's opinion, they don't read/watch before criticising. This manner i don't think it speaks well of an aAlim... Right from time, the Shia are known to be having problems with some sahaba and they have their proofs for that... Which ever way one sees it i think some kinds of maturity should be put in place too. Sincerely, i myself hate derailing a lot and i wouldn't mind spending the whole day reading an intellectual argument /discussion.

MrOlai:
This is what Allah(SWT) says about those companions of the Prophet(SAW) and those that follow them:

"
وَالسَّابِقُونَ الْأَوَّلُونَ مِنَ الْمُهَاجِرِينَ وَالْأَنْصَارِ وَالَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُمْ بِإِحْسَانٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا عَنْهُ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي تَحْتَهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ "فِيهَا أَبَدًا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ

"As for the first pioneers who accepted Islam from the Muhajir (immigrants) and Ansar (supporters in Madinah) and those who follow them in good deeds, Allah is well pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. He has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they shall live forever: that is the mighty achievement."
(Q.9:100)

Empiree:
See, there's nothing wrong having fair debate btw sects within islam for educational purposes. But when debate leads to argument and foul word, for me, it's time to call it quit. I already figured out some 7 yrs ago there is no way differences can be solved until Allah's intervention. Therefore, suggestion is way around it. I will only engage in sectarian debate for learning purposes.

Sometimes one is blind by sect he belongs to. One naturally have soft spot for the sect he/she belongs.

Empiree:
I love this translation better:
"The vanguard (of Islam)- the first of those who forsook (their homes), the Muhajir (immigrants) and of those who gave them aid, Ansar (supporters in Madinah) and (also) those who follow them in (all) good deeds,- well-pleased is Allah with them, as are they with Him: for them hath He prepared gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that is the supreme felicity".

Empiree:

Problem albaqir has with this verse is that 'Allah did not mention their names'. That is what albaqir once told me.

Empiree:

But what he doesnt seem to understand is that these Sahaba, at least "The First Rightly Guided" are very close to the prophet. So even Quran doesnt mention them by name, there is 95% chance that they are included in this verse.

Empiree:

So all the ahadith in Sunni literature that the Shia use as evidence against Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman are fabricated as far as I am concern.

Empiree:

I have said this before and will say it again. Anyone who says Abu Bakr, Umar Faruq and Uthman ibn Affan (RTA) are usurper is misguided.

Empiree:

Quran is clear

kazlaw2000:

The person that made this comment should fear Allaah. Pls check Suura Hashr, verse 10 to see why I say so. Are you/we better than Uthmaan? Pls repent now so Allaah may not visit you with a chastisement soon. You don't mess with Allaah's friends.