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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by sanmibukunmi: 3:21pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo:I like the idea of cutting our civil service but I fear it might backfire and could really make a lot of people miserable. so am thinking why not make our civil service productive. most of this civil servants do nothing at their place of work. they resume at 8 and before you know it, they are off before 3. they need to start being productive even if its going to take giving workers in the ministry of agriculture hoes and cutlasses to go work in government set up farms. enough if workers in our ministries sitting down in offices doing nothing. they should go to the field and serve as work force for the state. if the states have companies they are runnung , civil servants should be the workers there. if state a have farms, civil servants should be the attendants there. if the state has a bank, civil servants should be the bankers. this way, we would generate fund while using the state's civil service 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:21pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Ibebe: Huh? - there goes ya technocrat. The heifer fooled me with the welfare dream, despite lacking the required intelligence on how to go about it. Birds of a feather. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by veraponpo(m): 3:23pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Ritchiee: That is my point too. If they had used the fund judiciously, by now theY would have paid back or about to finish the repayment. It is just about having a proper financial planning. By having a form of annuity where monthly or quarterly sum is repaid and before you know it, they will be meeting their terms as and when due. This can only be done when they know how to raise their IGR properly. However, I discovered our governors are poor at planning. They are also poor at using common sense like Awolowo, Tinubu and Fashola, instead they like to criticize Fashola. I remember some years ago when Aregbesola said Osun people could not pay tax because they were poor. These are the people that you wanted to feed their children, provide airport for, provide standard gauged road for, etc. Under Awolowo, tax was compulsory for every able-bodied man. There was also education tax payable by every man. That was why education was free under him. Our governors need to learn a lot from Fashola. People were shouting and calling for low-cost housing yet cement was about N2000 per bag, land alone was running into millions in Lagos, all other materials were expensive and you want N500,000 3 bedroom flat? He did not listen to the charlatans. he already knew when the chips are down, his name would be mentioned. Not everything can be free in this modern age. Our leaders should know that. What Fashola promised Lagosians were affordable houses and he delivered it. Why can't they toll roads where people can afford it? Why cant students pay for their chairs and uniform while tuition is free? or something else to reduce government burdens. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:24pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:26pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: Brev, even if they were to raise taxes, I don't think that alone will solve the problem. To maximise IGR, you have to spend money on assets and build infrastructures, so as to entice investors. These states don't even have the capital for that - they're all running a deficit. All I can see here are owanbe governors celebrating owanbe parties despite living in a shared apartment. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 3:26pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Aareonakakanfo: Honestly, how did Osun people get to this stage? Somebody, help me make Fayose disappear.........legally. Before he plungest Ekiti into a sea of debt. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by lokoloko84(m): 3:27pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Well as a passive participant on nairaland I have followed this thread and it is really good. Back to the development of South West,the reality is that the yoruba's are living on past glory.There is no area of development we can be proud of especially since the inception of this Democratic experience. The quality of leadership has been a great disgrace. There is no leader to be proud of.All of these leaders are there for their own selfish interest. And why do we find ourselves in this situation? One Nigeria is the problem. That is why I get pissed off with some yoruba's both online and offline polluting the atmosphere with one Nigeria nonsense without the realization that,Nigeria is being held together by oil and greed of the political class including the current shamless yoruba leaders at all levels but they will self destruct. 4 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:27pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
sanmibukunmi: That was why I said we should encourage entrepreneurship and vocations.Whether they're doing their jobs is not even the issue here,they're just too many people on the payroll of the government. If civil service workers are layed off through inefficiency,they can move to the private sector |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 3:30pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Omisore His words: “Osun is now a failed state because of the financial recklessness of the governor. I really appreciate the fact that he confessed the present state of Osun affairs is beyond him, and he should immediately throw in the towel. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:30pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Yeah but then again the limited money they have, they're wasting it on the so-called infrastructures.They are paying excessively for something that ought to be cheaper |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:31pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Ibebe: Aregbe embodies rascality to a T. He makes GEJ look like Sir Isaac Newton. Fayose the stomach infrastructure bandit is Aregbe without the goatie. ^^^These two shouldn't even be allowed to manage a family. 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 3:32pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
sanmibukunmi: God bless you! sometime I ask do ask myself if Yoruba folks on nairalAnd are not up to 500, with the number of people that Are part of this thread. and I don't think there's another thread like this here. I noticed that Yoruba folks on nairaland are mostly political tools (APC/PDP thingy). than speaking for the interest of our people and territory. it's not use to be so way back. we have no contemporary on nairaland because we are the most populous tribe here. smh |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ritchiee: 3:32pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
zimoni:Thx,I have done that... |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 3:33pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Shymm3x: I seriously can't. Who is going to pay back all these loans? The likes of Tinubu/OBJ/Fashola etc can pay the loans, but they're too selfish for the Yorubaland interest. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:33pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
That shymm3x gif should come in handy in an "Ah no tell you?" situation |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:34pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: However, are they really building infrastructures that can generate/create wealth? I'll probably give Lagos a pass here cos of Eko Atlantic and a few other decent projects. But can the same be said about Osun, Ekiti, Ogun, Oyo, and Ondo? Didn't Aregbe build a massive drum, despite the fact that he knows the state is broke? [img]http://1.bp..com/-IK_Ol7aGLLY/Utkd1CL321I/AAAAAAAAAVk/v7u-vxJcNzQ/s1600/facebook-20140117-130332.png[/img] |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 3:36pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
it's due to party affiliation that we package and defend Aregbesola even to the extent of owing workers salary. and we will still be the one to point another PDP state governor that's owing workers salary. I don't just understand. how we are blinded by politics that makes us to seeing saints in this governors while they are not. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 3:38pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Ibebe: you mean they should use their personal money to pay back the loans? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:39pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Ibebe: I don't think Fashola has that type of money. I doubt Tinubu allowed him to steal that much in Lagos cos once you start allowing ya "younger" you brought in the game to steal/make more than you, then the level of respect will diminish. OBJ is as useless as they come...that's the Mr. Nigeria gorilla right there. That nyggah doesn't care about Yoruba unless there's money to made. And isn't Tinubu the unseen hand that got the whole region into this mess in the first place to enrich himself? You think the same rogue will help, no? 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:40pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Shymm3x: The Drum is just a one off.There are road projects he has carried out in Osun I like Aregbe because of the welfare thing but he's just..I don't know The otondo is even building mini stadia across Osun state I doubt if that guy has a team |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 3:44pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
WIZGUY69: I expected that much. Shymm3x: *SIGH* They make it so easy to give up. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 3:46pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
WIZGUY69: I can't remember the last time I got on a thread to support Aregbesola's rascality. It's disappointing when I see Yorubas defending him just because of the tribalism on NL. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:48pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
This is another Nigerian problem here.Some people are just carrying certificates/Bscs/Phds and some other bullch!t upandan but they lack Komonsense.There are illiterates who have Komonsense We all know these guys have accountants and financial advisers.What are they doing? You'll see them wearing suit and tie and you'll think the knowledge of the whole planet is in their brains but nuttin dey inside |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 3:48pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
I'm almost too afraid to ask how much it cost Osun state to build that drum. Are Yorubas in Nigeria so hopeless that they can't do something about this? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 3:48pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
can't wait for 2018 for the idiot to pack his bag and leave osun. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 3:50pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
WIZGUY69: 2018? OMG that's too long. Are you guys seriously going to wait till 2018? 3 more years to plunge Osun into more debt. Fucking fo' real? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:51pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: AregbeGoatie almost fooled me with the welfare thing cos anything that involves investing in education, kids, and senior citizens will always have my support. But the guy isn't just it. He probably read a book about welfare and didn't bother doing a proper scholarship about implementation. What's the point of building mini stadia? How's the going to generate revenue? Shouldn't he be focused on investing in tourism in the state and sending emissaries to countries where a large bulk of Yoruba diaspora that visit the state annually for all types of festivals, just to get more folks to come, and maximise state revenues from that? And maybe other things that state has potentials in? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ritchiee: 3:52pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
THIS IS FROM THE DEBT MANAGEMENT OFFICE... DEBT MANAGEMENT OFFICE NIGERIA PRESS RELEASE FINAL REPORT ON THE RESTRUCTURING OF BANKS’ LOANS TO STATES INTO FGN BONDS In line with the commitment of President Muhammadu Buhari to urgently straighten and strengthen the economy, the government has attached high priority to addressing the fiscal imbalance faced by most States of the Federation. The immediate cause of the fiscal imbalance was the structural drop in the international price of crude oil by more than 43% and the resultant drop in the revenue allocation from the distributable pool for all governments in the Federation by about 40%. The Situation constrained the ability of many States to meet their financial obligations, including payment of salaries. Hence, the government’s decision for a prompt response. As one of the salutary options for short term fiscal stabilisation, the Debt Management Office put forward a proposal for restructuring the short-term bank loans of States into long-term Federal Government of Nigeria (FGN) Bonds. The purpose was to reduce the debt -service outflow of States and free resources for meeting other obligations, particularly, clearance of arrears of salaries and pensions.A total of twenty-three States had submitted requests for the bank loan-to FGN bond restructuring. Phase I consisted of eleven States which had completed and submitted all necessary documentations, including the submission of jointly authenticated balances with banks as at August 14, 2015. These States had their bank loans restructured into 20-year FGN bonds effective August 17, 2015. Phase II of the restructuring consisted of twelve States whose bank loans were restructured into 20-year FGN bonds effective September 16, 2015.The second Phase concludes the restructuring exercise. Fourteen banks were involved in Phase I debt restructuring operation and their total loans to the eleven States which were restructured amounted to N322.788 billion. Twelve banks were involved in Phase II of the restructuring operation and the total loans restructured for the twelve States amounted to N252.728 billion bringing the total restructured amount for the twenty three States to N575.516 billion. Some banks featured in both phases but the total number of banks involved was 15.The restructuring was effected using a re-opening of the FGN Bond issued on July 18, 2014 and maturing on July 18, 2034. The pricing was based on the yield to date of the bond at a 30-day average, resulting in a transaction yield of 14.83%.Indicators of the impact of the debt management operations include:i.monthly debt service burden has droppedby a minimum of 55% and a maximum of 97%, among the twenty three States; and,ii.interest rate savingsfor the twenty three States ranges from 3% to 9% p.a. The restructuring is good not only for the States but also for the banking system because: banks’balance sheets will improve as weak subnational loan assets are replaced with high quality Sovereign assets; the FGN Bonds enjoy enhanced liquidity as they ar e traded in the secondary market; and, banks would have improved space to lend to other sectors of the economy as they are free to convert their FGN Bond holdings into cash in the secondary market. DEBT MANAGEMENT OFFICE The Presidency NDIC Building (First Floor) Plot 447/448 Constitution Avenue Central Business District P.M.B, 532, Garki, Abuja Tel: +234 –8110000881-3 Website: http://www.dmo.gov.ng Email: enquiries@dmo .gov.ng September 16, 2015 How does this bond thingy affect the SW a la debt repayment? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 3:53pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Ibebe: I don't even know the one I HATE most between Aregbesola & fayose. both are a disgrace to the entire Yoruba at home and abroad. build infrastructure, you no build. OK pay workers salary. mba. wtf 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:53pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Shymm3x: My brother, I'm ttired mehn |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 3:59pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Ibebe: I tell you. I just check his profile, And I discovered that the election was just last year. And osun folks still like the man. I was discussing with a friend from osun, (Aregbesola haven't paid his dad pension for a year now) and the guy still LOVE (not like) the man. I was like are you insane or what. seems the man jazzed all osun folks. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 4:00pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: Anyway, let me digress a bit. Can you please tell me what Igbos are trooping to the SW for since all the SW states aren't even viable based on these stats? These folks are also part of the problem cos of the pressure they're putting on the non-existent infrastructures. |
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