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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Funjosh(m): 7:25am On Nov 14, 2015 |
Tonychristopher is here ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tonychristopher: 8:02am On Nov 14, 2015 |
Funjosh: Is it a crime to be here reading some wonderful comments Hope you are having a nice weekend Missed nairaland like crazy 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ritchiee: 8:22am On Nov 14, 2015 |
tonychristopher:We all can not think the same way when we are not Zombies.As emotional as your people are about the pogrom or whatever,some of your people still want one Nigeria even on NL here.Our main problem is the distrust between us and it started a long time even before we were birthed.We pray you achieve your heart desire which would pave way for the disintegration of this rickety assemblage... 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tonychristopher: 8:41am On Nov 14, 2015 |
Ritchiee:Hi Pls don't derail this beautiful thread sir..why talk about progrom why leave in past ..I think you should be brainstorming on how to salvage western Nigeria from the financial miasma they are in Pls forget Biafra ...it will do you so many good ...don't divert the attention and make suggestions and the sensible ones have been making here pls Bye 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 8:43am On Nov 14, 2015 |
tonychristopher: Then stop mentioning Yoruba. The only thing that keeps Biafra alive is the mention of Yorubas.... If Igbos start moving back to the east, no yoruba man will stop them. 9 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:52am On Nov 14, 2015 |
E ti e duro na.Who is this character who came in while we were absent Ehn! iru kati kati wo le leyi ![]() Who the fvxx is Tonycrazetopher?Kilonjebe ![]() Are these not the same red mud mawffughs we ran away from? Can you mawffughs please stop coming here? 6 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tupacshakur(m): 8:55am On Nov 14, 2015 |
zimoni: ![]() ![]() I miss that b!tch, I swear! She would have been maimed and severely dealt with if she hadn't deleted her profile. Yoruba Niggers back then were very mad at her and ready to trace her to her NYSC PPA in Osun state. 4 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:56am On Nov 14, 2015 |
And can we all report the !dd!ot boy who replied Ibebe on page 210 with that picture? Lets all report him for breaking Rule No 1 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 9:01am On Nov 14, 2015 |
Mo ti se. I can't see his post anymore. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ritchiee: 9:50am On Nov 14, 2015 |
tonychristopher:Progrom...lol.I have never remembered biafra.What I remember and cherish is the great Yoruba race.Very passionate about it,sir. Have a jolly good time on your biafran thread...ciao 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:54am On Nov 14, 2015 |
These people are beginning to get to 'Ore' again o. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 11:23am On Nov 14, 2015 |
9jacrip: I said when I go home(Ile-Ife), I would visit DAWN office(at Ibadan). The office is at Cococa House, Ibadan. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 11:30am On Nov 14, 2015 |
Ritchiee, Can we agree to pay the likes of Tonikristofa dust anytime they miss road enter this beautiful town hall of ours?? I glanced in early this morning & saw his many rejoinders to issues that not only don't concern him/his tribe but also completely sails above his intellectual capabilities & wakaed away.... When we engage them, they will have the impetus to invite their acolytes.... & ibebe, zimoni, Shymm3x, Aareonakakanfo, 9jacrip, iyalode , tupacshakur, et al... I may be wrong & appeal to be excused for it but we aren't doing ourselves any favor by being EXTREMELY harsh (not that they dont deserve it & more) on our "Leaders" especially on this kind of board that anyone can just click & draw conclusions that weren't implied or intended in the first place.... The way i look at it is that " No parent shouts & list all the negative of his/her child in the presence or hearing of neighbourhood "Haters".... we are just providing ammunitions to attack us.... I detest most of our leaders but use less weighty words. Thank you all.. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:40am On Nov 14, 2015 |
Osomalo: Alagba, o je kin ma gba farm produce lowo yin as land use charge most especially if your home in Ife is anywhere around Mokuro ![]() I'll check out the office when I get back to Ibadan as well. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 11:46am On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath: Egbon mi, I have thought about the effect of giving a 'foe' ammunitions to attack us with but then how are we supposed to discuss pressing issues if we are not honest with and to ourselves? We do not have any other platform exclusively reserved for us to open up about situations bothering on our region. If we begin to censor, how else are some of us not present in or accessible to some locations supposed to get a clear picture of the situation there? I would like to see how it goes if the house chooses to dumb things down. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 11:58am On Nov 14, 2015 |
9jacrip: So we can only have a "clear pictures" if we go the hyberbolic & negative in every assessment?? Didn't know a caricature pictorial of a down & out south west is the best route to take.. So sorry for coming up with such a "dumb" idea.. Bye & thanks.. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 12:00pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
9jacrip: hahahahahahah Actually I built for someone at Mokuro, I intend to start building mine early next year also at Mokuro(behing Hammelda Estate, there are fine houses in that area). Abi ooo. Eyin Alagba Idita Quarters, mo ju'ba agba oooooo. E dakun e saanu mii. At Mama Moda.th, I got the message loud and clear. We were just angry ni jarey. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 12:05pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath: Aunty, e ma bi'nu, you are not going anywhere. If we had another platform, it would have been better. But we don't. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 12:07pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath: You took my message wrongly. I'm sorry if it offended you in anyway, it was not intended to. 1. My post wasn't necessarily to get a down and out SWest. I'm only saying we say things as they are as much as possible so we don't leave any stones unturned and presume it is all good or not that bad as I've always assumed until the discussion about Osun yesterday. 2. Saying to dumb down things didn't mean I regarded your suggestion to be dumb. I should have used tone down rather than dumb down even though they mean the same thing(s). E ma binu ma. Like you said, bi eniyan ba se gbe igba e ni awon eniyan se ma baa gbe. Emi o kan fe ki a fi ewe bo kobo loju lori oro itesiwaju ti o se owon ni ile wa. Ni ekan si, e ma binu. E je ebure, awo olugbebe. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 12:10pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Osomalo: I'm going home this week, na to go make sure I report you give Oloja Iranje-Idita and Baale Mokuro that one Osomalo fe wa gbin ile si ile wa, ki han mo tale ko o! ![]() Olodumare will bless you to build the one planned for next year and many more. E ri pe Aunty Modath take view mi wrongly ni sha ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tupacshakur(m): 12:24pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath: If you notice, I seldom contribute to political and economical issues pertaining to the SW as I hold none of the Governors in high esteem. I believe no Yoruba Governor since 1999 is worthy of emulation, including Fashola. They are all bunch of crooks and far from being in the mold of the great Obafemi Awolowo. Oh, how I detest Tinubu. He's a smart politician though. I give that to him but he achieved nothing in his 8 years at the helm of affairs in Lagos state. He left the state in tatters, allegedly murdered Funsho Williams in cold blood, as he knew the latter was obviously going to defeat his party, AC. He handed over to an overrated Fashola, after disregarding democratic tenets in the AC primaries that'd have seen Jimi Agbaje emerge as the party's flag bearer. Aunty Modath, oro po ninu iwe kobo. With due respect, I disagree with you on your stance. Let's criticize our SW leaders explicitly without mincing words. E jeki a bu won daa da! . Afterall, who have they helped, except their cronies and relatives? As regards the Flat-heads' unwarranted and annoying poke-nosing into this thread, I think the best folks like you can do is to ignore them completely. But trust me, I'll pay them in their own coin. That aside, I've been trying to figure out how you came about your moniker, "modath"...sounds like the name of an ancient Greek goddess. As google couldn't help, I tried stringing parts of some distinct words together but gave up after futile attempts. I thought of MODupe-ATHeist, but a lady Yoruba atheist is as rare as a virgin in a maternity ward. ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 12:33pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
9jacrip: 9jacrip: ![]() ![]() ![]() But I'm not so upset, just that you didn't look at the flip side, ..... What good will we achieve if the only things we belabour on everyday is how horrible & bad "OURS" are? I am one of the least politically correct person you will ever come across, i also don't take prisoners.... on our preggy & mum threads, i have been referred to as a "cyber bully on more than one occassion cos i don't molly coddle no one, i say it as it is & mean WHAT I SAY... But one is supposed to criticise what is one's in a way that will not make mockery of our collective struggle... This morning now, i saw one Romani claiming you & aare are denigrating SW & is also spamming several threads with same falsehood.... The whole country is Effed Up, SW is even better, come to FCT & see billions going down in FCDA & Devt Control with zero to show in infrastructures... Federal fa.... ![]() The way to go for this contraption is to either unbundle it or strict adherence to policies that will drag it out of the doldrums.... BTW, i wasn't so objective in my "yoot" as well ![]() @ Osomalo, Your moniker reminds me of baba baba mi... ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 12:53pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
tupacshakur: Amaru, i don't engage them cos i don't want to disturb this great thread & maybe cos i can't cool down enough to type quarrel.... blood is hot & eyes are red mehn.... You don't detest these leaders as much as i do but i hate ALL OF THEM, I'm not compartmentalizing.. The difference is that this thread wasn't created to continue to moan about our "leaders" , (WE KNOW IT, ONLY AN OSTRICH WILL CLAIM OTHERWISE).. It is to proffer viable ways to work through the albatross that they are to us, the Nation is skewed in a way that political office holders have been elevated to demi gods & only a collective will to progress will turn things round. Maybe the Mof0 spamming those threads is what got to me..... but when we continue to call ours trash without pausing for breath., No fight when people dump their waste in it.... ![]() As per the username, it is a conglomeration of the initials of my nuclear family.... Atheism ke? I no get that mind, if i find out later God doesn't exist, no P but now let me have "something" to belief in & a place to wear beautiful voile laces to show off... ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:58pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath: Please ignore them. Kindly hit the report button, anytime they make those silly useless remarks so that they do not derail this thread. On other threads, I give the misguided dolts among them the bashing they so rightfully deserve, when they start their nonsense. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 1:02pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
zimoni: Perhaps you can start this miracle political Party then. The way some of you insult Yoruba leaders, who actually deserve your respect if you truly understand what they have achieved, is the reason why many will not contribute to this thread. "Tinubu" is "useless" to you then perhaps you can position yourself to lead the Yorubas because it seems to me that it is those who stand to be counted and get involved who must do things as they know to do it. You simply will not understand that only evolution and growing political awareness will solve some problems as far as Nigeria is concerned. Yoruba leaders are not the worst in Nigeria and are constrained to work the Nigerian way. When the system becomes more refined then leaders become more refined. The fact, for anyone who knows the history of the SW properly, is that current crop of leaders are better than those they replaced and the next set will hopefully be better than what we have now. Cursing out leaders who, in the grand scheme of things, are actually better than those leading others won't help. If you guys want to make this a thread for heaping abuse on Yoruba leaders then how does that help us identify solutions or even become part of the solution? 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 1:14pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Yemoya?? I thought it was Yemoja?? ![]() Osun State needs to get its act together in tourism and treat it strictly like a business at the highest levels of governance, in order to earn improved revenue from it. Look at Nairobi, Kenya and Gaborone, Botswana. Right from the international airport, you are given leaflets and flyers highlighting all the tourism attractions in their country, and if you visit the tourism desk right at their airport they will book you a hotel, cab, or bus and hand you over to a registered tour operator that takes you straight to their tourist sites. Of course, you would pay the required fees directly to the tour company, but it is worth it. ![]() Their tour operators go out of their way to make your stay comfortable and interesting. There are so many branded souvenirs of high quality at every corner, for you to choose from as holiday gifts. And they do not cost the earth. ![]() These countries are actively represented at the World Travel Market and other fairs around the globe that have anything to do with tourism, travel and hospitality. Osun State can learn how they did it, and adapt some of their methods to drive tourism in their state. ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ritchiee: 1:22pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath:Thx. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 1:30pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Am so sorry. I saw this before, but I just lost track of it somewhere in between my numerous responses. I will search for data on the total number of workers in state ministries, but that would take a bit of time. I am sure some ministries don't even have accurate figures on the number of workers they have! ![]() As for PPP, it is an operational scheme in Lagos, Ogun and a few other places, but it really needs a lot of fine-tuning and monitoring, and there have been instances to show that the states have not been up to par, in their monitoring functions. ![]() In Lagos for example, there is the Lagos State Public-Private Partnership Office that implements and monitors PPP projects. The AES Nigeria’s 270 Megawatt (MW) - IPP Project, is reported to be an Independent Power Project (IPP) that operates nine (9) barge-mounted gas turbines, producing 270MW of electricity. On their website it says : AES Nigeria (a subsidiary) of AES USA was the project sponsor responsible for the implementation of the project. US$12million was raised to fund the project from an international consortium of 4 commercial banks and 3 development institutions. The project remains a joint venture between AES and YF Power Nigeria. AES has an option to follow through this project with a 540MW IPP in Marogbo, Badagry. However in reality, AES was implicated in a financial scandal a few years back and the project was grounded. I don't know if it is back on stream now. I need to find out. ![]() There is also the Akute Power Project (12.15 Megawatt) - IPP for the Lagos State Water Corporation. The Akute Power Project provides a total capacity of 12.15 MW by using four 3 MW GE Jenbacher gas engines. A 13km natural gas pipeline was connected to the existing natural gas infrastructure. The project cost US$25.5 million and spanned a 12-month construction period. The Power plant commenced operations in December 2009. To the best of my knowledge this project is still running, but the total amount spent so far and on-going costs are not fully known. There have been other PPP arrangements in the area of waste collection and disposal, transportation, housing, land use revenue collection etc. You can get more details here: http://www.lagosstateppp.gov.ng/projects/case_studies/transportation/transportation.asp The construction and tolling of the Lekki-Epe Expressway is another example of a PPP Project. While the1st phase of the road construction was completed in 2012, it has thrown up a lot of controversy and angst especially among the road users. The concession is operated by the Lekki Concession Company (LCC) which has a 30 year contract in place to collect tolls and maintain the roads. The profit sharing formula remains unknown, and the promoters were taken to court by residents along that road at one time. The success of that project led Lagos State to construct a tolled 1.7km bridge linking Lekki to Ikoyi, last year with another company. Parties: However, construction on the coastal road has not even begun and the tolled Lekki-Epe expressway has not solved the traffic problem on that axis due to its faulty design and lack of overhead bridges to divert traffic at the roundabouts. I'll be back with more info on both projects later. ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 1:32pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Gbawe: I was angry when I saw the debt profile. I'm sorry, I apologize to the House. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 1:39pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
9jacrip: Amen booda mii. Lol at "Ki Han Mo Ta'le Ko". Lord, I'm missing home. E ma da Aunty loun jarey, old age things nii. Aunty is old school lol. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by theV0ice: 1:45pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
I was thinking of the best way to say what modath just said but didn't want to come across as condescending so that I don't get called 'Iwo London' as I was referred to at a FIAOSA meeting at OAU for airing my views. I never lived in the SW so don't know much about the place which is why this thread has become like a library to me. However this thread I believe is one for finding solutions to a problem associated with playing politics in Nigeria. As much as I detest Tinubu's style and would disagree with anyone who compared him to Awo, I can't deny the fact that he stood in the gap when the whole SW was almost sold to the same folks who murdered MKO. Also who would forget what he did with NADECO? Omo buruku ni ojo ire tie. Let's leave the attacks and instead focus on solutions like you guys are drawing out. I'm really learning plenty things on here. Let's see how we can make the best of a bad situation. Let's get to making lemonade with the lemons we might have 'mistakenly' bought thinking they were oranges ![]() Also we should remember say "shoki lo be oge" ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 1:47pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
laudate: The truth is that Aregbe had solid plans for the promotion of tourism and hospitality in Osun State. Sadly the reality of the times overtook and defeated his lofty plans. Osun is a very poor State that had no business becoming a State in the first place and was only carved out of Oyo state due to the usual egotism and myopia of those who think creating smaller and unsustainable "independent" geographical area is the way forward in an age where borders are shrinking because of globalisation and an idea-based way of living. The likes of Aregbe have to deal with the difficult issues related to leading a State that was never meant to be a State in the first place. Aregbe made mistakes but what ultimately rendered him unable to deliver on the lofty ideas he had is simply lack of funds to improve a State that was already very poor with issues compounded by the dire economic situation of Nigeria that meant allocation to States has dropped significantly. We should be coming up with suggestions to help our leaders , after we familiarise ourselves with the problem totally, before we criticise in ways that makes it obvious we are not ready to be part of the solution. Osun was never really viable. Yet it could become viable and Aregbe planned to make it viable but we must never discount events beyond his control that rendered his lofty plans unachievable. After that stage, we then look at how to salvage things moving forward instead of limiting ourselves to talking as if these leaders caused and enjoy the lack of socio-economic development we all see and decry. There is nothing you say and suggest here that bright minds in Osun have not thought of. If funds are lacking to implement even the brightest of ideas then that has to be addressed first before we all start searching for miracles. Even Osun hoteliers, below, admit Aregbe has good plans and intentions but is severely constrained by the economic ill-health of Nigeria. The solution for Osun has to be holistic and linked to a healthy national economy. Osun can grow strong. more independent and prosperous in a period of national economic prosperity but the state is one of those especially vulnerable in a period of national economic hardship and downturn. http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/osun-financial-crises-be-courageous-hoteliers-urge-aregbesola/ Osun financial crises: Be courageous, hoteliers urge Aregbesola 1 Like |
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