| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 11:54am On Nov 17, 2015 |
Gbawe:
What "stranglehold" ? With Tinubu everyone practices 'scapegoatism' because it is populist to do so yet the reality is that the SW , minus Tinubu, would have been overrun by the most evil, most corrupt, most virulent and most anti-people form of politics possible while you and anybody else would not be able to do squat about it.
In the UK this phenomenon is recognised. I.e the "build them up to knock them down" mentality most human being host as a subconscious element of their being. Become too successful or too popular and people will start turning against you. If Tinubu does not have a "stranglehold" of SW politics then every State in the region will be led by an OGD, Alao-Akala or a Fayose. There would never, and I mean never, be a chance for individuals like you, who may be erudite and successful, to lead because the grass root champions, with the likes of Adedibu behind them, would always thrash you silly. Tinubu does not have a stranglehold on SW politics. He demystified and dragged it away from malevolent 'strongmen' and made it accessible to technocrats and 'aje butters' at a time when SW politics, to the extent the region got the nickname of the "wild west", used to be about wholesale murder, kidnapping, mayhem and "do or die" politics of who could kill and intimidate the most. The refinement in SW politics today is down to Tinubu and those who know the detailed history of politics in the region will agree with me.
This is why I sometimes smile when I read the wanton attack against Tinubu borne of nothing more than mischievous character assassination many have swallowed wholesale and unquestioningly. Can you, as one example, give a fact-based argument to validate your claim that Tinubu has a stranglehold on SW politics that is "inimical" to the regions "unfettered progress" ? Is it really "strangehold" or is it the ugly yet required action of a man who understands that he must act to ensure his region is not a slave of "those who carry guns" (Rev.Ugolor) as was the case in the past? Tinubu's opinion is that as long as SW politics is still about "might is right" imposition then he might as well use his clout to ensure we gain the right sort of leaders and not be slaves to the likes of OBJ, George, Adedibu, Faseun et al !!!!
Nature abhors a vacuum. If Tinubu is absent, thus creating a vacuum, history has show the pragmatic and practical Yoruba that it is not Solarin, Soyinka, Fawehinmi et al who can plug that vacuum. It is the likes of OBJ, Adedibu, Fayose, OGD et al who emerge to control SW politics and direction. Tinubu has the right balance of good and bad to help the SW on its march towards progress. He has the goodness to empower the Fashola, Fayemis, Ajimobi et al and the readiness to do the bad/dirty work, that Soyinka et al are incapable of, in the effort to defeat the OBJs, Faseuns, Adams, Adedibus et al a their own game. Minus Tinubu then Soyinka and Fawehinmi, as we have seen first hand, will not/cannot stop OBJ et al getting away with enslaving the SW and miring us in gangster politics.
I can tell you all that if Tinubu left today then kiss goodbye to seeing accomplished men and women of ideas in leadership and welcome back the PDP and seeing Fayoses, Obanikoro, Teslim Folarin and Alao-Akalas everywhere because those are the only sort local 'strong man' politics will churn out for you in the SW. Too much sentiments is hosted when Tinubu is mentioned. Let me ask you and others to mention Awolowo-type names that can anchor the Yoruba political direction today if Tinubu is absent. Is it Bode George? Falae? Obanikoro? Or Gani Adams and Faseun, So-called Yoruba leader, who all it took to compromise was pipeline protection contract from GEJ? Who exactly? Adams and Faseun took money to sell Yorubas and Nigeria into GEJ slavery for 4 more years while Tinubu, fom 2011 to 2015, gave his all uncompromisingly, once he set his mind on it, to remove the menace of GEJ that would have destroyed Nigeria. [size=14pt]Could Tinubu not have accepted more billions of dollars than he is worth today to assist GEJ gain four more years and thus sell Yorubas into greater slavery?[/size] Did many yoruba Obas not accept the billions of GEJ and do many ever think of this fact when they portray Tinubu as being all about money and the 'cornering' of State wealth? those who show a propensity for selling us out are ignored while Tinubu, because of his profile, is always the convenient scapegoat when we all need a name to blame as human nature directs us to do.
Literally thousands of the same Yoruba leaders who enviously attack Tinubu daily gluttonously accepted GEJ's money to sell us out and this thread exist today because we are in a position of not being too despondent or too depressed to discuss our affairs which would be the case if GEJ had won and is busy 'dealing' with us as he did in 2011 to 2015. Do many Yorubas ever mention Adams, Faseun, Obanikoro, George and others malevolently, while they focus on Tinubu, even when those peoples's action showed they would prefer to destroy the destiny of the Yoruba nation, for personal gain, than do the right thing by us? If many of our Obas, George, Obanikoro, Adesiyan, Folarin, Faseun, Adams et al had their ways then GEJ would be president today, Sambo would be your VP and some idiot who blames "evil demons" for our lack of adequate power would be minister of power today while Fashola would probably be working outside Nigeria and using his talent to help other nations develop. If you cannot mention Yoruba names to replace Tinubu, do we then embrace the model where local politics play out freely only to 100% favour those most violent and most dreaded in the land as is always the case when the SW lacks a benevolent strongman like Awolowo, Ige, Tinubu et al?
Yorubas should be careful what they wish for is all I can say. Human beings have an irrational tendency of wanting folks cut down to size, when they feel those folks have become too big for their boots, without looking at the implications of what would happen if those folks are no longer where they are. Take Tinubu out and watch the influence of Koro, Fayose, George et al grow to then throw us back another 20 years. At least with Tinubu's 'gatekeeping' talents we are moving in the right direction via getting better calibre of leaders till the truly beautiful ones are born.
If not because I know too well what would happen, I would even prefer Tinubu to go and rest, enjoy his life and family, to leave the SW to the jungle law of "survival of the fittest". I would love to see the 'fittest' who will emerge to lead us. If history is any indicator then I can only say the joke will be on the Yorubas and not on Tinubu. Uncle Gbawe, where are these "talents" cos I can't see them? All these states aren't thriving under these "talents" - so what's the use of "talents" when they can't perform? Also, didn't Tinubu also cut a deal with GEJ, during his first election? So how's he different from the ones who cut a deal with the same GEJ during the second election? Yes, he played smart politics since GEJ had already reduced himself to SS/SE and went with where the number was up North for assured victory. That's not rocket science. Folks can sugarcoat things all they want but discerning folks will always observe the dynamics of things. The truth is that a lot of Yoruba folks are not happy with Tinubu and APC, and that was evident during the last presidential elections. Didn't you see how close the election was in the whole region, despite the fact that a Yoruba son was on the ballot? Even in Remo/Ijebu axis where Osinbajo is from - APC lost in a lot of areas. Osun was close. Oyo was close. APC lost in Ekiti. Ondo was close. The signs are there. These folks need to do the right thing. 4 Likes |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 11:57am On Nov 17, 2015 |
MayorofLagos:
Shymmex,
Each of our Yoruba frontline politicians in the contemporary has an archetype we can match them to in the pre and post independence era.
Fashola is a reincarnate of Herbert Macauley
Tinubu is a reincarnate of Awo.
A reincarnate relives opportunities and aims to polish and do right what he got wrong on first coming. The two lives will never be lived exactly the same and cannot therefore be a compare one to the other. Sir, I don't see any reincarnation of anyone in these folks. They're their own people. They can't clean the shoes of those folks from the other era. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 11:59am On Nov 17, 2015 |
theV0ice:
Shymm3x
I long for another Awo and his era but I must constantly bring myself back to the earth and admit the truth that men of that hue are no more. Even though distant uncles of mine like late senator Akinboro told us after the devil, Awo was next in line, Awo will always be the father of modern Yoruba nation. The truth is that every human has a dark side including you and I.
I remember when democracy started and the Yoruba nation was to be compensated for Abiola's death, we all queued behind Falae because he approximated closest to what we could manage than OBJ but he too had to get down into the mire to outsmart an renowned disciple of Awo in Bola Ige through the committee of 23 'wisemen who voted 14 to 9 against Ige. For those familiar with that episode, they'll admit Falae also did a Tinubu to beat Ige. Falae lost to OBJ who had/has no regard for Yoruba nationalism and it showed in the way he bamboozled his way through the SW in 2003. Only Tinubu survived the onslaught because he utilised the same system we villify him for today and its ironic that the same ebora had to rely on Tinubu's platform to get one over GEJ, his godson.
However, how do we think Tinubu could have provided a platform for us to even have a chance to negotiate if he didn't get deep into the dirt and murky waters of current Nigerian politics? I like Osinbajo and I believe he'll make a fine leader (he's even an Awo by marriage  ), but I can assure you he wouldn't win councillorship against a bus conductor in Lagos without borrowing some leaf from Tinubu's book of political wisdom.
Politics in Nigeria has left the era of Awo, Azikiwe, Sardauna, Rewane, Aminu kano etc. I dare say that a George Washington will also find it not easy to win an election in the USA today 
Tinubu isn't a saint. Tinubu should do better. Tinubu isn't Awo and can never be. That much is very obvious. However, things are a lot different than Awo's time. Why, I'm even posting this on my phone while lying on my bed and you'll read it instantly though you're thousands of miles away. That is enough to tell you that the times have changed and a whole lot changed with it. Not least the politics 
A lot of us long for our pastors to cut down on their greed yet we've refused to stop going to church. We simply pitched our tent where we believe things are still a bit sane. Its the same with our politics. We have to choose whom we feel is the lesser devil.
While the jungle was dark and threatening, Tinubu was the only one bold enough to stand. Who else then to lead the charge?
I might have spoken from a very narrowed vision of Yoruba politicians but pls don't blame me too much. Compared to the politicians that dictate things around me here in the Niger Delta, Tinubu qualifies for beatification.
My rants or whatever are over jare. I don't even know if it if it makes sense  We don't even need a next Awolowo - we just need selfless leaders who care about the Yoruba cause since we're a people that can't thrive collectively without good leadership. Nice contribution tho. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 12:05pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
modath:
Elder Gbawe, as much as Pa Awolowo did for the yoruba tribe, He wasn't a saint, neither is Jagaban oooo
You only took the minus & totally ignored the positives i attributed to him, it isn't fair ooooo 
We all know, minus God's intervention, as it stands today, in 75% of Yorubaland if Jagaban says jump, the only question is how high.. , he has done well but not at a 100% ....
I said "unfettered progress" & you didn't bother to check the connotation of the phrase but have taken objection to the whole thing... issokay ooo
You know, i won't drag nothing with you but Jagaban has feet of clay ooooo....
This life sha..
The irony of everything is that MO is subtly implied as being an APC political Jobber, this is comical..  Modath, I have no issues with you but what you wrote is clear and unambiguous enough i.e "His stranglehold on the affairs of the SW is inimical to unfettered progress BUT....."Yes you quantified your statement with a but yet anyone who knows the real history of the SW , to include the days virtually all leaders bar Tinubu were cowards who wilted under the glare of the PDP, would agree Tinubu has contributed far more to the success of the SW today because of the simple notion of how we would be overrun by malevolent politics and leaders, always the most powerful at grassroot level, if Tinubu was not a counterbalance to their influence. Tinubu stayed the course and defeat them, almost single-handedly, and it would not be wrong or inaccurate to say he sanitised SW politics and made it possible for a new and better generation of leaders to emerge. Things continue to get better. We remember the dark days when, as an example, Dr.Ayodeji Daramola returned from abroad to contest the Ekiti gubernatorial election only to be murdered brutally in 2006. Today, Dr.Daramola would have contested the election even if he will not win because Tinubu helped remove the many murderous elements and disciples of "do-or-die" politics OBJ wanted to continue controlling the SW with. It is not yet uhuru but we are heading in the right direction as long as talented folks, thanks to Tinubu, continue getting the chance to shape our nation with their leadership skills. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Missy89(f): 12:16pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Gbawe,
What is your take on Fashola's million dollar website since he is one of Tinubu's proteges?
By the way, Tinubu/OBJ political struggle has nothing to do with any ideological difference but pure power politics between both men since they were both interested in having total political control of the SW. And some electorates will tell you that they preferred OBJ's PDP stooges to Tinubu's lackeys. It is all a matter of opinion and your social status in those states. Whichever way they are failures as far as i am concerned. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by veraponpo(m): 12:27pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Gbawe:
What "stranglehold" ? With Tinubu everyone practices 'scapegoatism' because it is populist to do so yet the reality is that the SW , minus Tinubu, would have been overrun by the most evil, most corrupt, most virulent and most anti-people form of politics possible while you and anybody else would not be able to do squat about it.
In the UK this phenomenon is recognised. I.e the "build them up to knock them down" mentality most human being host as a subconscious element of their being. Become too successful or too popular and people will start turning against you. If Tinubu does not have a "stranglehold" of SW politics then every State in the region will be led by an OGD, Alao-Akala or a Fayose. There would never, and I mean never, be a chance for individuals like you, who may be erudite and successful, to lead because the grass root champions, with the likes of Adedibu behind them, would always thrash you silly. Tinubu does not have a stranglehold on SW politics. He demystified and dragged it away from malevolent 'strongmen' and made it accessible to technocrats and 'aje butters' at a time when SW politics, to the extent the region got the nickname of the "wild west", used to be about wholesale murder, kidnapping, mayhem and "do or die" politics of who could kill and intimidate the most. The refinement in SW politics today is down to Tinubu and those who know the detailed history of politics in the region will agree with me.
This is why I sometimes smile when I read the wanton attack against Tinubu borne of nothing more than mischievous character assassination many have swallowed wholesale and unquestioningly. Can you, as one example, give a fact-based argument to validate your claim that Tinubu has a stranglehold on SW politics that is "inimical" to the regions "unfettered progress" ? Is it really "strangehold" or is it the ugly yet required action of a man who understands that he must act to ensure his region is not a slave of "those who carry guns" (Rev.Ugolor) as was the case in the past? Tinubu's opinion is that as long as SW politics is still about "might is right" imposition then he might as well use his clout to ensure we gain the right sort of leaders and not be slaves to the likes of OBJ, George, Adedibu, Faseun et al !!!!
Nature abhors a vacuum. If Tinubu is absent, thus creating a vacuum, history has show the pragmatic and practical Yoruba that it is not Solarin, Soyinka, Fawehinmi et al who can plug that vacuum. It is the likes of OBJ, Adedibu, Fayose, OGD et al who emerge to control SW politics and direction. Tinubu has the right balance of good and bad to help the SW on its march towards progress. He has the goodness to empower the Fashola, Fayemis, Ajimobi et al and the readiness to do the bad/dirty work, that Soyinka et al are incapable of, in the effort to defeat the OBJs, Faseuns, Adams, Adedibus et al a their own game. Minus Tinubu then Soyinka and Fawehinmi, as we have seen first hand, will not/cannot stop OBJ et al getting away with enslaving the SW and miring us in gangster politics.
I can tell you all that if Tinubu left today then kiss goodbye to seeing accomplished men and women of ideas in leadership and welcome back the PDP and seeing Fayoses, Obanikoro, Teslim Folarin and Alao-Akalas everywhere because those are the only sort local 'strong man' politics will churn out for you in the SW. Too much sentiments is hosted when Tinubu is mentioned. Let me ask you and others to mention Awolowo-type names that can anchor the Yoruba political direction today if Tinubu is absent. Is it Bode George? Falae? Obanikoro? Or Gani Adams and Faseun, So-called Yoruba leader, who all it took to compromise was pipeline protection contract from GEJ? Who exactly? Adams and Faseun took money to sell Yorubas and Nigeria into GEJ slavery for 4 more years while Tinubu, fom 2011 to 2015, gave his all uncompromisingly, once he set his mind on it, to remove the menace of GEJ that would have destroyed Nigeria. [size=14pt]Could Tinubu not have accepted more billions of dollars than he is worth today to assist GEJ gain four more years and thus sell Yorubas into greater slavery?[/size] Did many yoruba Obas not accept the billions of GEJ and do many ever think of this fact when they portray Tinubu as being all about money and the 'cornering' of State wealth? those who show a propensity for selling us out are ignored while Tinubu, because of his profile, is always the convenient scapegoat when we all need a name to blame as human nature directs us to do.
Literally thousands of the same Yoruba leaders who enviously attack Tinubu daily gluttonously accepted GEJ's money to sell us out and this thread exist today because we are in a position of not being too despondent or too depressed to discuss our affairs which would be the case if GEJ had won and is busy 'dealing' with us as he did in 2011 to 2015. Do many Yorubas ever mention Adams, Faseun, Obanikoro, George and others malevolently, while they focus on Tinubu, even when those peoples's action showed they would prefer to destroy the destiny of the Yoruba nation, for personal gain, than do the right thing by us? If many of our Obas, George, Obanikoro, Adesiyan, Folarin, Faseun, Adams et al had their ways then GEJ would be president today, Sambo would be your VP and some idiot who blames "evil demons" for our lack of adequate power would be minister of power today while Fashola would probably be working outside Nigeria and using his talent to help other nations develop. If you cannot mention Yoruba names to replace Tinubu, do we then embrace the model where local politics play out freely only to 100% favour those most violent and most dreaded in the land as is always the case when the SW lacks a benevolent strongman like Awolowo, Ige, Tinubu et al?
Yorubas should be careful what they wish for is all I can say. Human beings have an irrational tendency of wanting folks cut down to size, when they feel those folks have become too big for their boots, without looking at the implications of what would happen if those folks are no longer where they are. Take Tinubu out and watch the influence of Koro, Fayose, George et al grow to then throw us back another 20 years. At least with Tinubu's 'gatekeeping' talents we are moving in the right direction via getting better calibre of leaders till the truly beautiful ones are born.
If not because I know too well what would happen, I would even prefer Tinubu to go and rest, enjoy his life and family, to leave the SW to the jungle law of "survival of the fittest". I would love to see the 'fittest' who will emerge to lead us. If history is any indicator then I can only say the joke will be on the Yorubas and not on Tinubu. Gbawe, I share your belief and conviction on the person of Tinubu. Many of his enemies are just envious of him. As much as I don't see him as a saint, I still believe is far from being a devil too. My reasons are predicated on the following points: 1. He believes in the rule of law. Whether you believe it or not,before Tinubu will do anything, he tries to have a legal backing for it, hence his reason for winning many cases through the agency of the rule of law. He knows the importance of the legal framework that can make things to work out well in any society. 2[b]. He is a leader and not a ruler:[/b] Unlike the likes of Obasanjo, Falae, etc that believe in their own success only, Tinubu is a leader that seeks to raise followers who will be made masters of their own games with a pocket of loyalty to him which comes naturally. 3. He does not undermine the importance of Yoruba success because of his ambition: Because Agbaje wanted to win election, we know what Yoruba lost as a result. About 6 House of representatives were chosen who are of Igbo ethnicity at the expense of Yoruba people. This among many are the things you see when the enemies of Tinubu get one over one thousand of the opportunities that Tinubu has had. You will now see, how they would have sold our common wealth if they have a tip of Tinubu's iceberg. Before you mention, the case of Mulika in the house of rep, that was an election within the house not from the home front. 4. Tinubu is a strategist: Unlike many people who want to lead us in Yorubaland, many of them are archaic, some are not sound enough while some a conservative. Tinubu, due to his exposure both abroad and in the corporate world, can foresee a lot of things and know where it will end. I remember when he returned from the oversee trip and said the National Conference was just a distraction and designed for the election purpose, many naïve politicians called him names but it was obvious it was for the interest of the charlatans like Odumakin and Mimiko. If you remember how he rescued Mimiko when Agagu and, by extension, PDP robbed him of his mandate. Tinubu has all it takes to lead. 5. Tinubu believes in competence: He does not exchange quality for inferiority just because he is close to you. The likes of Fashola, Fayemi, Abikke Dabiri, Yemi Osinbajo, etc are people that we all know cann represent us well without fear of contradiction. No leader except Awolowo who produced the likes of Jakande, Bola Ige, Olabisi Onabanjo, etc can match this feat. Is it Odumakin who is looking for food to eat or Fayose that will operate in this class. There are many other convictions that I have that made me to believe that this man is our leader except we just want to deny the truth on ground. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 12:31pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
theV0ice:
Shymm3x
I long for another Awo and his era but I must constantly bring myself back to the earth and admit the truth that men of that hue are no more.
My rants or whatever are over jare. I don't even know if it if it makes This is no rant & you know it... you just want someborry to complement you on a job well done.... I will just something to it with two illustrations about my perception of the Jagaban... 1.In 2011, ACN presented Nuhu Ribadu , it was expected that the Yoruba people will go with that plan but sohin happened but it is a subject for another day... I did my usual Ajala work no pay campaign for PMB on my SM pages, to friends, work/biz life cos according to a friend in EFCC, Ribadu is a weak willed, malleable creature which made it easy for OBJ to use him in his special vendetta against errant govs & political associates.... Till today, I'm still marveled by the events of 2011..  2... Opeyemi Bamidele VS Fayemi in Ekiti... It needs no soothsayer to highlight the fact that APC lost ekiti cos Jagaban for whatever reasons best known to him supported Fayemi despite it being obvious Ekiti people didn't want an Acada governor & were going to ensure he didn't return... Fayemi meant & did arguably well but he was too elitist for the average ekiti man who prefers a Governor that will dance bata at his son's freedom party... The market woman whose preference is for a governor who will share a corn cob with her.. Tinubu knew quite well MOB would have swung the votes but he let pride (wild guess) make the decision not to field him dictate the course of events... That decision i still can't wrap my head around.. Jagaban wants the SW to progress but it will be at his own dictates & pace... As for Pa Awolowo, My parents enjoyed free education & i know the trickle down effect on myself & siblings, so i will swallow spit on top my opinion.... 4 Likes |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 12:37pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Let's leave OBJ alone. I don't even see that man as a Yoruba man, to be honest. He's the caricature of Zik of Onitsha - just willing tools for external forces outside Nigeria. 2 Likes |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by forgiveness: 12:38pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Wich of these should lead the Yoruba Nation or you think can lead a Yoruba Nation: Tinubu, Fashola, Fayose, Adebanjo, Osibanjo, Obasanjo, Soyinka, Aregbesola, Alaafin, etcetera?
As for me, Tinubu! Tinubu! Tinubu!
@Gbawe Pls, do you know if Tinubu believes or is interested in regionalism? Or do you know what he thinks about the system of Government we practice? |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 12:44pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Please, let's discuss issues, without attaching "jealousy" to it. Nobody is jealous of Tinubu here. We are all young people, no one is a politician here, and we're not involved in the power tussle.
Everyone here is trying to discuss what's wrong with Yorubaland and the way forward. Post what you think and leave accusations out of it. Only folks who're grasping at straws with no argument always pull out unnecessary things.
Yorubaland needs help and that's what we should focus on. 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by theV0ice: 12:55pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
modath:
This is no rant & you know it... you just want someborry to complement you on a job well done....
I will just something to it with two illustrations about my perception of the Jagaban...
1.In 2011, ACN presented Nuhu Ribadu , it was expected that the Yoruba people will go with that plan but sohin happened but it is a subject for another day...
I did my usual Ajala work no pay campaign for PMB on my SM pages, to friends, work/biz life cos according to a friend in EFCC, Ribadu is a weak willed, malleable creature which made it easy for OBJ to use him in his special vendetta against errant govs & political associates....
Till today, I'm still marveled by the events of 2011..
2...
Opeyemi Bamidele VS Fayemi in Ekiti... It needs no soothsayer to highlight the fact that APC lost ekiti cos Jagaban for whatever reasons best known to him supported Fayemi despite it being obvious Ekiti people didn't want an Acada governor & were going to ensure he didn't return...
Fayemi meant & did arguably well but he was too elitist for the average ekiti man who prefers a Governor that will dance bata at his son's freedom party... The market woman whose preference is for a governor who will share a corn cob with her..
Tinubu knew quite well MOB would have swung the votes but he let pride (wild guess) make the decision not to field him dictate the course of events...
That decision i still can't wrap my head around..
Jagaban wants the SW to progress but it will be at his own dictates & pace...
As for Pa Awolowo, My parents enjoyed free education & i know the trickle down effect on myself & siblings, so i will swallow spit on top my opinion....
@the bold, was that a tongue-in-cheek statement or you meant it? 1. Did you actually believe that Ribadu/Fola Adeola stood any chance in 2011?  Omo iya, pls think again. I don't know if Tinubu cut any deal with GEJ then. If he did, GEJ simply paid another owo omo gor because Ribadu was no threat and even with Buhari in the fray then, it couldn't have stopped Jonathan's March. I made up my mind to vote GEJ then because I firmly believed he could be different. Yoruba's say "ti owo eni ko ba ti to eku ida, a ki beere iku to pa baba eni" (I hope that came out well). Tinubu would be a romantic ediot if he ever assumed ACN stood any chance in 2011. 2. I never heard of Opeyemi Bamidele till it was almost time for the election. Like I've said many times, I know very little about SW politics so if you insist all you wrote there is sanctioned by God, I can't dispute it even if I wish to Talk about Wike, Amaechi, Princewill, Awuse, Odili etc in Rivers state, then I'll boast myself an authority. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 12:59pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Shymm3x:
. Didn't you see how close the election was in the whole region, despite the fact that a Yoruba son was on the ballot? Even in Remo/Ijebu axis where Osinbajo is from - APC lost in a lot of areas. Osun was close. Oyo was close. APC lost in Ekiti. Ondo was close. The signs are there.
These folks need to do the right thing. Shy, you may believe me or not but i can assure you the SW results wasn't a true reflection of events, it was the result of 2k & cups of rice... Each state got 500m Naira to mobilize votes for Jonathan, Fayose & Kashamu used their "allocations" for the purpose it was meant for while others diverted theirs.... My Aunt in Lagos was offered 500$ to sell her family's PVC, she asked them to increase it to 5k$ cos she said if she is selling her kids future, it should be for a sum that makes brain.. .... Take it from someone who makes it her business to dig for facts for pure objectivity purpose.... I was just laughing when jstbeinhonest was talking about GOOD GOVERNANCE & EDUCATION..., i didn't respond cos i didn't want us to overflog the issue, but we are talking HUNGER, Just is talking future, when a labourer manages to make 1k or 2k at the end of a hard day's job & he gets someone to offer him 5k for a few minutes at the polling booth.... |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 1:15pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
theV0ice:
@the bold, was that a tongue-in-cheek statement or you meant it?
1. Did you actually believe that Ribadu/Fola Adeola stood any chance in 2011?
2. I never heard of Opeyemi Bamidele till it was almost time for the election. Like I've said many times, I know very little about SW politics so if you insist all you wrote there is sanctioned by God, I can't dispute it even if I wish to
Talk about Wike, Amaechi, Princewill, Awuse, Odili etc in Rivers state, then I'll boast myself an authority. I mean it, it was on point but you self depreciated it so had to appreciate it... Me believe Ribadu would win ke, when I'm not indomie brain Okupe.. I've been supporting PMB since tipe tipe (my parent was narrating how he made scapegoat of some of their ogas way back when in Fed Sec Ikoyi & i just knew that's the guy to make us do right) & only used Ribadu as a point of illustration... Seem you missed the part where i wrote that my friend claimed he is an easily manipulated simpleton which was why he was an easy tool for OBJ to fight his political enemies.. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by theV0ice: 1:30pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
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| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by coded01: 1:33pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Aare...Ati awon comrades... Eku ise ooo... |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 1:36pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Shymexx
I will be back to answer your question on Tinubu. Well done on your positions so far. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 1:48pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
veraponpo:
Gbawe, I share your belief and conviction on the person of Tinubu.
Many of his enemies are just envious of him. As much as I don't see him as a saint, I still believe is far from being a devil too. My reasons are predicated on the following points:
1. He believes in the rule of law. Whether you believe it or not,before Tinubu will do anything, he tries to have a legal backing for it, hence his reason for winning many cases through the agency of the rule of law. He knows the importance of the legal framework that can make things to work out well in any society.
2[b]. He is a leader and not a ruler:[/b] Unlike the likes of Obasanjo, Falae, etc that believe in their own success only, Tinubu is a leader that seeks to raise followers who will be made masters of their own games with a pocket of loyalty to him which comes naturally.
3. He does not undermine the importance of Yoruba success because of his ambition: Because Agbaje wanted to win election, we know what Yoruba lost as a result. About 6 House of representatives were chosen who are of Igbo ethnicity at the expense of Yoruba people. This among many are the things you see when the enemies of Tinubu get one over one thousand of the opportunities that Tinubu has had. You will now see, how they would have sold our common wealth if they have a tip of Tinubu's iceberg. Before you mention, the case of Mulika in the house of rep, that was an election within the house not from the home front.
4. Tinubu is a strategist: Unlike many people who want to lead us in Yorubaland, many of them are archaic, some are not sound enough while some a conservative. Tinubu, due to his exposure both abroad and in the corporate world, can foresee a lot of things and know where it will end. I remember when he returned from the oversee trip and said the National Conference was just a distraction and designed for the election purpose, many naïve politicians called him names but it was obvious it was for the interest of the charlatans like Odumakin and Mimiko. If you remember how he rescued Mimiko when Agagu and, by extension, PDP robbed him of his mandate. Tinubu has all it takes to lead.
5. Tinubu believes in competence: He does not exchange quality for inferiority just because he is close to you. The likes of Fashola, Fayemi, Abikke Dabiri, Yemi Osinbajo, etc are people that we all know cann represent us well without fear of contradiction. No leader except Awolowo who produced the likes of Jakande, Bola Ige, Olabisi Onabanjo, etc can match this feat. Is it Odumakin who is looking for food to eat or Fayose that will operate in this class.
There are many other convictions that I have that made me to believe that this man is our leader except we just want to deny the truth on ground.
Well-said bro. Look at the PDP still forcing the fugitive Buruji Kashamu down our throat in this day and age for god sake. Does Tinubu do that? Minus Tinubu, would it not be Kashamus everywhere? |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Akanbiedu(m): 1:59pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
What's happening here? |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:00pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Some of our professors here are even comparing Tinubu to Awo. smh! Kontinew
I no dey argue ooo 2 Likes |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by veraponpo(m): 2:09pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo:
Some of our professors here are even comparing Tinubu to Awo. smh! Kontinew
I no dey argue ooo
You are getting it wrong bro. You should understand our views and don't just pick one's analysis out of context If they have meeting points or areas of similitude, we can compare them. For example: 1. They are (were) both politicians 2. Of Yoruba race/nation 3. In the South West 4. Aiming at the government at the centre. 5. Awolowo and Tinubu cannot be president of Nigeria because they are both seen as a Yoruba leader. Differences: 1. Awolowo was more of a saint than Tinubu 2. Awolowo had a distinct philosophy that looks better than that of Tinubu 3. Awolowo was a better leader- he was selfless and with a broad vision for the Yoruba race; 4. Tinubu is a better politician- he got more results than Awolowo. Tinubu seems to have received all that he desired politically unlike Awolowo. 1 Like |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 2:10pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Gbawe:
Hate Tinubu all you want. When PDP, as one example, was busy, back in the gangster "do-or-die" days, kidnapping Ayoka Adebayo (Ekiti REC) and forcing her to declare their candidate the winner of the Ekiti gubernatorial election, all in the effort to make the SW their gangster paradise, was it you or the many fake and garrulous Yoruba 'patriots' of today (like Faseun and Adams who saw nothing wrong with taking Jonathan's billions to sell us out) who fought bravely and uncompromisingly, using personal funds and influence, to reverse that trend and set the SW on the path of the refined even if imperfect politics we enjoy today? Many of us were on Nairaland then and contributing live, in those dark days, to have a first hand appreciation of what Tinubu sacrificed to get us where we are today.
Nearly 100% of Yoruba leaders, when Tinubu never did, disappear when it is time to stand up, fight and be counted for the Yoruba cause (eg when PDP was bullying Yorubaland) only to then show up to play anti-Tinubu saviour of Yorubaland when GEJ is sharing dollars. With Tinubu gone it is those sort who will take his place since nature abhors a vacuum. It would be interesting to see how you and the Yorubas fare with those sort.
If you only wish to believe the negatives about Tinubu, such as stories of how he is worth 3 trillion dollars and own everything that moves in Lagos and the SW, then good luck to you. Many are never appreciated until they are gone. Okay Sir. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:12pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
veraponpo:
You are getting it wrong bro. You should understand our views and don't just pick one's analysis out of context
If they have meeting points or areas of similitude, we can compare them. For example:
1. They are (were) both politicians
2. Of Yoruba race/nation
3. In the South West
4. Aiming at the government at the centre.
5. Awolowo and Tinubu cannot be president of Nigeria because they are both seen as a Yoruba leader.
Differences:
1. Awolowo was more of a saint than Tinubu
2. Awolowo had a distinct philosophy that looks better than that of Tinubu
3. Awolowo was a better leader- he was selfless and with a broad vision for the Yoruba race;
4. Tinubu is a better politician- he got more results than Awolowo. Tinubu seems to have received all that he desired politically unlike Awolowo.
Baba I'm not here to argue.I said I'm here to read comments
We've discussed this issue several times on this same thread and it still doesn't mean we'll alter our opinions after these debates so its not needed |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 2:13pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
theV0ice:
Shymm3x
I long for another Awo and his era but I must constantly bring myself back to the earth and admit the truth that men of that hue are no more. Even though distant uncles of mine like late senator Akinboro told us after the devil, Awo was next in line, Awo will always be the father of modern Yoruba nation. The truth is that every human has a dark side including you and I.
I remember when democracy started and the Yoruba nation was to be compensated for Abiola's death, we all queued behind Falae because he approximated closest to what we could manage than OBJ but he too had to get down into the mire to outsmart an renowned disciple of Awo in Bola Ige through the committee of 23 'wisemen who voted 14 to 9 against Ige. For those familiar with that episode, they'll admit Falae also did a Tinubu to beat Ige. Falae lost to OBJ who had/has no regard for Yoruba nationalism and it showed in the way he bamboozled his way through the SW in 2003. Only Tinubu survived the onslaught because he utilised the same system we villify him for today and its ironic that the same ebora had to rely on Tinubu's platform to get one over GEJ, his godson.
However, how do we think Tinubu could have provided a platform for us to even have a chance to negotiate if he didn't get deep into the dirt and murky waters of current Nigerian politics? I like Osinbajo and I believe he'll make a fine leader (he's even an Awo by marriage ), but I can assure you he wouldn't win councillorship against a bus conductor in Lagos without borrowing some leaf from Tinubu's book of political wisdom.
Politics in Nigeria has left the era of Awo, Azikiwe, Sardauna, Rewane, Aminu kano etc. I dare say that a George Washington will also find it not easy to win an election in the USA today
Tinubu isn't a saint. Tinubu should do better. Tinubu isn't Awo and can never be. That much is very obvious. However, things are a lot different than Awo's time. Why, I'm even posting this on my phone while lying on my bed and you'll read it instantly though you're thousands of miles away. That is enough to tell you that the times have changed and a whole lot changed with it. Not least the politics
A lot of us long for our pastors to cut down on their greed yet we've refused to stop going to church. We simply pitched our tent where we believe things are still a bit sane. Its the same with our politics. We have to choose whom we feel is the lesser devil.
While the jungle was dark and threatening, Tinubu was the only one bold enough to stand. Who else then to lead the charge?
I might have spoken from a very narrowed vision of Yoruba politicians but pls don't blame me too much. Compared to the politicians that dictate things around me here in the Niger Delta, Tinubu qualifies for beatification.
My rants or whatever are over jare. I don't even know if it if it makes sense You made sense Bro. Thumb up. 1 Like |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 2:17pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
veraponpo:
You are getting it wrong bro. You should understand our views and don't just pick one's analysis out of context
If they have meeting points or areas of similitude, we can compare them. For example:
1. They are (were) both politicians
2. Of Yoruba race/nation
3. In the South West
4. Aiming at the government at the centre.
5. Awolowo and Tinubu cannot be president of Nigeria because they are both seen as a Yoruba leader.
Differences:
1. Awolowo was more of a saint than Tinubu
2. Awolowo had a distinct philosophy that looks better than that of Tinubu
3. Awolowo was a better leader- he was selfless and with a broad vision for the Yoruba race;
4. Tinubu is a better politician- he got more results than Awolowo. Tinubu seems to have received all that he desired politically unlike Awolowo.
Please educate us on how Tinubu got more results than Awolowo. The same Tinubu who went to sleep and was outsmarted by Saraki. You chaps should stop this asinine comparison of Awo and Tinubu. They are not in the same league. 4 Likes |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:20pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
modath:
Shy, you may believe me or not but i can assure you the SW results wasn't a true reflection of events, it was the result of 2k & cups of rice...
Each state got 500m Naira to mobilize votes for Jonathan, Fayose & Kashamu used their "allocations" for the purpose it was meant for while others diverted theirs....
My Aunt in Lagos was offered 500$ to sell her family's PVC, she asked them to increase it to 5k$ cos she said if she is selling her kids future, it should be for a sum that makes brain.. ....
Take it from someone who makes it her business to dig for facts for pure objectivity purpose....
I was just laughing when jstbeinhonest was talking about GOOD GOVERNANCE & EDUCATION..., i didn't respond cos i didn't want us to overflog the issue, but we are talking HUNGER, Just is talking future, when a labourer manages to make 1k or 2k at the end of a hard day's job & he gets someone to offer him 5k for a few minutes at the polling booth....
That probably played a small role but it's negligent since both sides did the same and the state electoral structures in majority of Yoruba states during the election were under APC governors. If the "stomach infrastructure" move couldn't work in Osun, during the governorship election that got Aregbe his 2nd term, why do you think it's responsible for the voting pattern of Yorubas during the presidential election, despite having their son on the ballot? I don't think the people are that stupid. I believe a lot of them have had enough of these utterly corrupt, selfish, and greedy "leaders" with lack of foresight. Let me give you a next example of how greedy and useless these folks are - and I want you to tell me what you think. Dangote was planning to build a refinery in Ondo state. However, negotiations for settlement between Dangote and the indigenous folks of Ondo where the refinery was meant to be sited reached a deadlock, albeit they were making progress. Mimiko never intervened on Dangote's behalf. Then all of sudden, Fashola and Tinubu hijacked the project and brought it to the Epe/Ajah axis. But rather than let Dangote negotiate with the folks from the area about settlements and compensation - they sent the military in to move these folks out of their ancestral lands, with no compensation/settlement whatsoever (I believe the case is still in court). Now let me break down the three utterly dumb things they did with that move: - They denied Ondo state and its economy another investor, and indirectly stifled the growth of the state. - They brought another unnecessary project that will cause more harm than good to Lagos. It will just end up adding more locusts to a state that's already snarled and in need of de-congestion. - They treated the folks from the Epe/Ajah axis like the savages on the movie "Avatar" due to greed and selfish interests - and stole what rightfully belongs to them without compensating them, or any plans of resettlement. They also messed up their means of livelihood just to enrich themselves. So do you believe the people are oblivious to how these folks are driven by greed and selfish interests? 5 Likes |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:26pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Tinubu vs Awolowo
Reality vs Emotions
Political success vs policy success |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 2:27pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Gbawe
Your argument is simple - you have made PDP in the SW a benchmark. You aren't providing any widely accepted indices as benchmark; instead your benchmark is Buruji, Bode George, Gbenga Daniel and other persons of low stock. Has the Yoruba stock fallen so bad that these persons are now the benchmark. Your strategy is similar to that used by parents in scaring kids with the bogeyman; in this case OBJ & George are the bogeymen.
To mark matters worse, you sully the name of great men - Soyinka, Fawehinmi, Solarin, etc to make a point. Are those men politicians? They simply provide a social conscience for the nation. Why don't Indians compare their politicians to Gandhi?
Yoruba are capable of much more and these scaremongering tactics are for the middle ages and not this age. Most of the posters here are well educated and intelligent folk. We know why Obama is better than bush visavis employment, GDP, Inflation, education, etc stats. To espouse the qualities of Tinubu, that is where you should start from. Leave pigs and thugs out of benchmarks.
What really is the political ideology of Tinubu and the APC? Don't make him into a demagogue 8 Likes |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 2:38pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Good points from Uncle Katz and Prof Shymexx.
I'm here to read comments, I'm going to cause confusion here if I post what's on my mind.
If the BEST TALENTS they could offer us are the DEBTORS, then we have a long way to go.
Truth is, right now, the difference between PDP and APC is not much.
I dey laugh. 4 Likes |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by veraponpo(m): 2:41pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto:
Please educate us on how Tinubu got more results than Awolowo. The same Tinubu who went to sleep and was outsmarted by Saraki.
You chaps should stop this asinine comparison of Awo and Tinubu. They are not in the same league.
My brother, you are only saying the obvious. Saraki was a betrayer. He did not do anything more than refusing to meet with other party members at the right time. Saraki did not contest Senate Presidency with anybody and was not voted for. He was the only candidate available for the seat. You cannot fault Tinubu for that. After all, Jesus was betrayed too. Anybody can be betrayed, all you need to have in your camp is a person with a different vision & mission. Now, on how Tinubu achieved more results politically. I want you to know that I have not said and not saying that Tinubu is a better person when compared with Awolowo, we are only comparing their political journey. 1. Tinubu desired to be Senator of the Federal republic, he achieved it. Awolowo desired to be a parliamentarian in the federal house, he achieved it. 2. Tinubu desired to be Governor of Lagos State, he achieved it: Awolowo desired to be the Premier of the Western Region, he achieved it. This is where it ended for Chief Awolowo but Tinubu continues. 3. Tinubu desired to become a political godfather in the South West and beyond, he achieved it. Awolowo desired to be president but he couldn't achieve it. 4. Tinubu desired to have a national political party, he achieved it. Awolowo could not achieve that. 5. Tinubu desired to produce the president of the country and have his grip on the national politics, he achieved it as he single-handedly produced the vice president. Awolowo could not achieve all these. NOTE: ALL THESE ANALYSIS ARE NOT MEANT TO UNDERMINE THE GREATNESS OF CHIEF OBAFEMI AWOLOWO (SAN, GCFR). THEY OPERATED IN TWO DIFFERENT DISPENSATIONS, SO THE COMPARISON IS JUST A PAPER EXERCISE. 1 Like |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 2:42pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Shymm3x:
Uncle Gbawe, where are these "talents" cos I can't see them?
All these states aren't thriving under these "talents" - so what's the use of "talents" when they can't perform?
Also, didn't Tinubu also cut a deal with GEJ, during his first election? So how's he different from the ones who cut a deal with the same GEJ during the second election? Yes, he played smart politics since GEJ had already reduced himself to SS/SE and went with where the number was up North for assured victory. That's not rocket science.
Folks can sugarcoat things all they want but discerning folks will always observe the dynamics of things. The truth is that a lot of Yoruba folks are not happy with Tinubu and APC, and that was evident during the last presidential elections. Didn't you see how close the election was in the whole region, despite the fact that a Yoruba son was on the ballot? Even in Remo/Ijebu axis where Osinbajo is from - APC lost in a lot of areas. Osun was close. Oyo was close. APC lost in Ekiti. Ondo was close. The signs are there.
These folks need to do the right thing. Shymmex, believe me our current crop of leaders like Amosun, Ajimobi et al are talented. Like jstbeinhonest posited, there are things beyond their control, like power supply, that limits what they can achieve. I have met some of these guys and can tell you they know what we know and much more !!!!! I will give you an example that illustrates the relationship that shows Governance at the centre can ruin the best efforts at State level. Amosun, recognising the importance of the SME (small to medium enterprise) and observed that this sector was poorly represented in Ogun State. Rightfully, he wanted to assist the growth of SME to boost employment, IGR and reduce the over-reliance on federal allocation. Amosun initiated a raft of measures to assist this. He began the issuance of government-backed loans to enable potential entrepreneurs set up business. He even bought equipment and tools to help many take up a self-employed trade such as barbering, sewing et al. Many took the loans and the equipment only to find that running their business was very difficult because of the prohibitive cost of supplying their own power and other issues. Soon they closed shop and eventually begin looking for the safest job in town viewed as a job for life i.e a civil servant job. Now, if the SME sector is underdeveloped in Ogun State is that an indictment of the lack of leadership talent of Amosun or is it that the indolence of the centre has rendered him unable to deliver even despite the sterling effort put in? Amosun even signed a MOU with a reputable Chinese construction group for the delivery of a rail system which would make Ogun one of the few States in Nigeria with an internal rail network. Is that not a demonstration of talent and vision? Yet despite he obvious developmental vision Amosun is showing, raising the billions of dollars required for the project will always be a huge talent. The then PDP government, same as it always took pleasure in frustrating Lagos, may simply refuse to guarantee the loan for Ogun State because of feudal politics. As you can see, many of these guys have ambitious and innovative plans but the reality on the ground ultimately overtakes and frustrates them. This is why I can't join the effort to demonise Tinubu. Nigeria can only work optimally when the centre gets it right and is a genuine enabler. State governors can only do so much and the things they cannot supply (like power, rail transport et al) are the most important tools of delivering and sustaining development. The centre (PDP for the past 16 years) has been a rotten apple that has ensured Nigeria stagnates. Tinubu played a major role in toppling the PDP and giving us a centre that, more than any before it, actually has the political will to take the measures that will help develop Nigeria. For that alone, Tinubu is worth his weight in gold. Tinubu is a political leader one may not like but has to view with pragmatism. http://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/128930-amosun-signs-mou-with-chinese-company-on-ogun-rail-project.htmlAmosun signs MOU with Chinese company on Ogun rail project
The governor says the rail project will boost the economy of the state.
The Ogun State Government has signed a Memorandum of Understanding, MOU, with the China Civil Engineering Construction Company on a light rail mass transit.
The project is expected to link the major cities across the state and boost the state’s economy.
The Governor, Ibikunle Amosun, while going into agreement with the company in his office in Abeokuta, said that the project will be done in order to boost the economy of the state and raise the standard of living of its people.
“We have been doing our best on roads but it is high time we paid attention to rail as well. We are starting the mass transit within Abeokuta metropolis. This will be extended to all our major towns including the Ado-Odo/Ota axis up to the areas bordering Lagos,” he said.
The governors said that it is imperative to boost transportation in the state in anticipation of a significant rise in population in the coming years.
In his remarks, the Managing Director of China Civil Engineering Construction Company, Cao Bao Gang, lauded the Ibikunle Amosun-led administration. Mr. Gnag said that “the project on completion will enhance the transportation system and contribute to the economic development of the Gateway State.’’
He assured the governor that quality would be the firm’s watchword in the implementation of the contract.
“The project will provide jobs for residents and help the unskilled ones to gain adequate knowledge through training and involvement in the whole process,” he said. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Akanbiedu(m): 2:46pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
By joining forces with Buhari to unseat the power structure that has ruled Nigeria since the end of Nigerian civil war, Tinubu has helped to set Nigeria firmly on the part of progress. What Tinubu is busy doing now is consolidating on this success, and making sure that the conservative forces trying to return us to the old power structure is defeated.
I think the man has done his bit for Nigeria (Yorubaland inclusive) and shouldn't be bothered much about satisfying the sectional interests of some people suffering from superiority complex. Come to think of it, trying to satisfy Yoruba people as a leader is the worst thing one can do to him or herself, even Awolowo couldn't do it. 1 Like |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:50pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Akanbiedu:
By joining forces with Buhari to unseat the power structure that has ruled Nigeria since the end of Nigerian civil war, Tinubu has helped to set Nigeria firmly on the part of progress. What Tinubu is busy doing now is consolidating on this success, and making sure that the conservative forces trying to return us to the old power structure is defeated.
I think the man has done his bit for Nigeria (Yorubaland inclusive) and shouldn't be bothered much about satisfying the sectional interests of some people suffering from superiority complex. Come to think of it, trying to satisfy Yoruba people as a leader is the worst thing one can do to him or herself, even Awolowo couldn't do it.
Huh? When/how did that happen? Are OBJ, IBB, Buhari, Atiku et al part of the old guards? And didn't the same people back Buhari? I honestly don't see the logic in this submission. 1 Like |
