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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 2:50pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Akanbiedu: Ati bere, we don start again ? So, Chief Obafemi Awolowo would permit this type of selfishness Haba, ki lo de, enikan ki je ki le fe na... 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:52pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Oh yeah dem don show again 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:52pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Osomalo: Sir, I'm not a "Prof" - I just added that to my other handle, to feel super-Nigerian with a title cos I've exhausted all my other variants. Anyway, that's what this thread is for. No holds barred, regardless of whose ox is gored as long as we don't turn it into a street fight. Post whatever you want to post, Sir. We are all here to learn and put forward our opinions. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 2:53pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:54pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
[size=13pt]Lagos Reviews Agreements for Oil and Gas Production[/size] Governor Akinwunmi Ambode Ejiofor Alike The Lagos State Government has commenced a review of the governing agreements on oil and gas exploration and production as the state prepares to attain the status of the 11th oil producing state in the country. Speaking at the just concluded 33rd conference of the Nigeria Association of Petroleum Explorationists (NAPE) held in Lagos, Governor Akinwunmi Ambode however promised the operators that the state would provide incentives to compensate them for the risks being taken. He urged International Oil Companies, indigenous oil producers as well as oil serving companies in Nigeria to approach the challenges pose by global crude oil price fall with creativity, and innovative ideas to survive. Ambode said despite the challenging time "our best is yet to come." As a government, Ambode said the state would implement and support creative ideas and concept that would reduce the cost of running government, “ideas that would advance productivity in business and economic enterprise, ideas that will reduces economic and security risk, and ideas that makes life simpler and more meaning for the people”. “We also remain resolute in our commitment to broaden areas of corporation through effort like this conference and exhibition. As the Ministry of Petroleum Resources begins to rebuild the governing agreement of oil and gas exploration and production activities for oil blocs including those situated in Lagos, our government will work with all stakeholders to ensure that we provide the incentives that can compensate for the for the risk being taken," Ambode added. The Lagos state governor who was represented by the Commissioner of Energy and Energy Resources, Mr. Olawale Olowo explained that over the years, the global oil and gas industry has gone through circles of changes that have required the industry to adapt and to evolve. He stressed that the challenges before the country is to determine how it can adapt to these emerging scenarios on the global and national oil and gas space in order to take advantage of them and shape them to the country’s advantage. "We know this will require courage, vision, commitment, and resilience," Ambode added. He explained that the importance of conversation between energy stakeholders has never been more crucial than now. "By this, you will find that bringing the IOCs, independent, oil service companies and friends in the financial sector as well as the academia and government to brainstorm on areas of global local energy issues that will lead to a technical step towards improving Nigeria's energy and economic security. We urged the IOCs to be more robust and intentional to their exploration and exploitation activities. To the independent, we say to you 'you can do it too',” he explained "As you may all know, Lagos state is on the verged of becoming the nation's 11th oil producing state. Thanks to the dogged and pioneering efforts of national independent like Lekoil, Afren, and Yinka Folawiyo. Our aspiration is to maximise these opportunities along the Dahomey and make sure every part of Lagos particularly the Lekki Ibeju axis can produce oil in the near future. Lagos state believes in strategic partnership. We commute to provide the necessary incentives for the sustenance of your business and the development of a state and nation we can all be proud of,” he added. http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/lagos-reviews-agreements-for-oil-and-gas-production/225846/ 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 2:55pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Osomalo: Ko si iyato Kankan rara bi o ti le wu ko kere mo. Same debtors, different party. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:58pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Na lie you be "Prof" Don't play that humility card here 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 3:00pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto: When I said there is a difference between idealism and reality this puts it clearly. Reality is that Buruji, Daniels and Bode George are present and ready to pounce on power if Tinubu is off the stage. PDP, Buruju are no bogeymen they are the reality of our time. They exist. Oyo State was ruled by Akala, and Teslim Folarin, Lagos state was going to be ruled by Obanikoro, Kashamu rules Ogun, Fayose rules Ekiti Fawehinmi actually went into politics, How did he fare there? Did he win a single LGA out of over 700 in Nigeria Tai Solarin was given People's Bank to handle how did that experiment end? Wole Soyinka was put in charge of FRSC, How did that end? And about the Saraki swipe, I dont think that takes anything away from Tinubu. Awolowo had people who didnt buy into his ideology and actually sent Awo to jail without being able to achieve his goal 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:00pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Gbawe: Sir, I understand the SME bit and if it's actually working - I'd be the first to celebrate him. So kudos to him for doing that. However, that doesn't negate the utter poor fiscal policies. Also, having talent is one thing and maximising the talent to achieve result is another thing. I'll use football example since we all love the round leather game. Veron had all the talents in the world. However, when he got to Manchester United and couldn't perform, why did Sir Alex do? He kicked him out of the club. Ditto the likes of Pato, and Quaresma. So would you agree that we're within our rights to critique these folks since governance is result driven and they haven't been able to maximise their "talents" to give us the results we want? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:03pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto: I so much love this submission, Sir/Lord/King Katsumoto. Even Messr Putin the emperor had to clap for you. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 3:04pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Firefire: Anyone who is enlightened should know this is idioccy at its best US is the bastion of modern democracy The current democratic front runner is Hilary wife of former President One of the Republican candidate is Jeb Bush, brother of former president Bush, son of Former President George H W Bush, GrandSon of Former senator Bush. There is a possibility that the next US election is going to be between a Bush and a CLinton just like it was 24yrs ago We havent seen Americans shout about Tinubu and make silly meme's In India. We had Mahatma Ghand, We had Indira Ghandi we had Rajiv Ghandi If thats Tinubus crime, then I can say he learnt from the greatest democracy icons in the world 6 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:05pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: Loool. Maybe in 6-10 years time after reading gazillion of books and publishing a lot of research papers. It's not even easy to be a Professor in the UK, and that might take another 5 years - maybe in the US. Being a professor isn't that easy. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Musiwa419: 3:09pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Osomalo:Oro na so si ni lenu otun bu iyo si 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:09pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
They said Tinubu is simply operating in a system he has no control of and we ask them didn't Awo advocate federalism as the only basis for equitable national integration? Why hasn't the Messiah done the same? Awo was a welfarist.Most of the companies Awo founded were not for personal gains but for the people.Odua Investment company is a testament to that.Can the same be said about the messiah?How many of us here have gained from Tinubu's businesses? Is political presence at the national level an achievement? If the messiah was that great,how come his policies,ideas,political success haven't impacted the average Yoruba citizen or the South-west? The only person I can put in the same league as Awo is Lateef jakanade.. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:10pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
raumdeuter: The US is not the bastion of modern democracy. The US is a constitutional republic, so regardless of who's elected as the POTUS, the country will always thrive. I don't see the correlation between the US and this one, to be honest. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:11pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Enjoying the conversation |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:13pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Scandinavian countries are the bastion of democracy. The US won't even make the top 20 list of the most democratic countries in the world. Let's leave the US out of this. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 3:14pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Shymmex, Buhari is not and has never been part of the old guard in anything but age. He does not share their ideology and is more of the welfarist, 'power to the people' school of politics while OBJ, IBB, Abacha, Danjuma et al are autocratic for the sake keeping power within a small set of hands and with a leaning for copious self-aggrandizement. Atiku, IMO, is actually a different creature entirely and more a benevolent and relatively liberal AGIP (any government in power) who would probably move Nigeria forward if he were president but not as quickly as we should progress because he can and will be compromised. This is why our political elites have fought tooth and nail to demonise Buhari for decades to make him appear unelectable. It is the fact that GEJ is shockingly terrible that created a paradigm shift in the thinking of our leaders to the extent many thought "f**k it. Let us get behind Buhari before GEJ takes us all down". Buhari and OBJ, for example, have nothing in common. OBJ only swung behind Buhari because of the personal and intense hatred he had developed for "disrespectful" and "ungrateful" GEJ. Also, OBJ and others like Atiku who would have previously worked against Buhari realised that GEJ was a very dangerous individual on course to destroying Nigeria. They chose the lesser of the two devils, i.e Buhari, out of self-interest and not because he is like them or of similar mindset. Akanbi Edu is right because Tinubu, by working selflessly to install Buhari, assisted the demolition of the structure holding Nigeria back. Tinubu shows he is not about money and pecuniary gains because he knows Buhari enough to understand that his Presidency will signal the end of 'business as usual' which is even capable of hurting Tinubu and his own interest. Yet the man went ahead, using his personal wealth and clout, to ensure Buhari won. Even the APC primaries that produced Buhari was the work of Tinubu because virtually all SW delegates voted for Buhari - more than was the case for even Buhari's own Northern base. These are the sort of development that truly typify what Tinubu is about for those who wish to look at issues dispassionately and pragmatically. Tinubu has nothing to gain from a Buhari Presidency other than the desire to see the good governance. Jonathan could have made Tinubu filthy rich if Tinubu agreed to work for his win. The billions of dollars and inducement (like pipeline protection contracts for gani Adams and Faseun) he doled out across Yorubaland would have gone to tinubu who Jonathan coveted as a kingmaker and wanted to get on board more than all others put together. Yet Tinubu could not be bought and he chose the project, i.e Buhari and APC win, that represented less money, less influence and less chances to consolidate an 'empire' many tell us that Tinubu cares about more than anything else. It does not make sense and the more one looks the more it is obvious the Yorubas should feel very privileged and lucky to have tinubu. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:17pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
[size=13pt]Ogun pledges to complete ongoing road projects[/size] The Ogun State Commissioner for Works and Infrastructure, Mr. Olamilekan Adegbite, an architect, has assured residents of the state of the resolve of the the present administration to complete all on-going road projects it embarked upon across the state before the expiration of its tenure in 2019. The Commissioner also pledged the readiness of the Amosun-led government to open up some new roads which he assured would also be completed within the stipulated period. The Commissioner according to the Ministry’s spokesman, Mr. Ayokunle Ewuoso gave the assurances during the 2015 budget performance visit to the ministry by the members of the House Committee on Works and Infrastructure led by its Chairman, Mr. Olayiwola Ojodu. “New roads with socio-economic importance or advantage to our people have been identified. There are so many roads that are on ground; of course some of them will have to be prioritised according to funds available. People are saying that are all these roads going to be abandoned especially the ones that were marked for the urban renewal. I want to say that all these statements are mere imaginations of the people because I am almost too certain that these projects will not only be completed, we will start new ones. Some of these roads are 75 to 80 percent completed,” he said. Adegbite who was represented by the Permanent Secretary, Kayode Ademolake, an engineer explained that out of about N21billion budgeted for the ministry, only N18 billion is meant for road projects. According to him, the agency has spent N1.5 billion so far. Speaking on the recently completed ultra modern shopping mall built by the government at Shapon in the Abeokuta South Local Government Area, the commissioner assured that government would be fair and just in its allocation. He disclosed that allocation to traders would commence as soon as all the necessary papers are completed. Responding, the Chairman of the Committee, Mr. Ojodu commended the ministry for a job well done. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/ogun-pledges-to-complete-ongoing-road-projects/ 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:18pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
MayorofLagos: Say what |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 3:20pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Politically, Tinubu did what was necessary to save the yoruba nation from the onslaught of a corrupt party. Maybe he did it to protect his personal interest too. Most likely yes. We cannot deny the fact that he seemingly saved the day. Gbawe et al should realise that we yorubas are better than this and we are demanding for better governance and leadership. If Tinubu wants to be a leader, he should learn to be selfless now because he has the money and the influence already. I do not have any iota of respect for Afenifere (since the demise of Abraham Adesanya). In recent times, there is not a single instance anyone can point out to, that they put the yoruba nation ahead of their selfish interest. Not one. They have turned themselves to ''We vs Tinubu Group''. They can never be relevant in the scheme of things again, till when they reform themselves and renew their conscience and re-awaken the pan-yorubaism they were meant to stand for. I will not hold Tinubu responsible for Governors that are not performing because you can only force a donkey to the stream, you might not be able to force it to drink the water. In fairness, the PDP governors had access to more funds -- ecological fund, excess crude oil funds etc which the APC guys might have used more judiciously. However, my grievance with APC governors is why on earth will you put the state in so much debt and there is no development on ground that is commensurate with the debt profile. That is criminal and satanic. It is better for you steal public fund and not throw the state into the valley of debt, than for you not to be able to account for funds you borrowed in the name of the state. In the case of the latter, at least the generations yet unborn do not have a burden, while that it is the case in the former. How can anyone then tell me an Aregbe is better then OGD, when I can see projects completed by OGD, though he was a looter? As for me I am just waiting to see the miracle the synergy between the APC controlled central government and the states can achieve, before passing my final verdict. 6 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:22pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Shymm3x: This is too heavy to swallow.....although I don't want to derail, but where is the evidence of strong correlation between NAACP/Sharpton and the events you listed? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 3:23pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
raumdeuter: You are absolutely wrong to classify selfishness and selfish interest as "idioccy at its best" God continue to bless Alhaji Lateef Kayode Jakande, whose many policies as posited by others here are being felt up till this very moment. (30 Years after) e.g Jakande Low Cost Housing. But your "idioccy at its best" is busy building his own personal empire, and estates while the masses are suffering and double taxed. Eberu Olohun... 4 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Akanbiedu(m): 3:23pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: What many of you fail to understand is that Yorubaland does not exist in isolation now, unlike when Awo ran Western region in a confederation. No matter what SW administrators do, will not yield much result or rather the result will be consumed by internal migration. The little progress Lagos recorded has been swallowed with influx of people putting pressure on the infrastructure and making it seem like nothing is working. Programs or policies that have far-reaching effect on the populace are not directly under the powers of states. For example Tinubu built power generation for Lagos only to be taken over by Federal government. That was at a time Nobody was thinking of building power. So the better way of handling the situation of getting to influence what is happening at the federal level. That has been done and its only a matter of time before the results of that will start manifesting. So why the sudden rush now? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 3:25pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
@ Gbawe, What is your thought and possibly that of APC's on the restructuring of this country politically? Tinubu and APC did not believe in the last National Jamboree/Confab (i did not either), is there any likelihood of APC organising a people oriented Sovereign National Conference devoid of ''No-Go-Area Clause''? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 3:26pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Firefire: If its selfishness and selfish interests then he learnt from the best He learnt from the Kennedy's , he learnt from the Ghandi's he learnt from the Bush's. He learnt from the Clintons Tinubu learnt from the best get your ilks and your paymaster to do the right thing, man up and beat him at the polls All those childish pictures are like I said "idioccy at best" 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 3:27pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: Laaka ye yin o ni jona. This is my position. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:27pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
superstar1: Thank you! |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:32pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Baba Firefire ejo e ba wa yo aworan yen kuro |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 3:32pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Akanbiedu: This is what I call realistic policies not the ones we are bellowing here that isnt workable in the Nigerian context Lets say Fashola developed infrastructures before 2yrs they would have been degraded because of massive influx of people into the region protected by federal laws What did Awolowo have to deal with? In the time of Awolowo 1 out of 20 people depended on govt for their salary. Almost Every household had farms where they got what they ate. Sold the rest as foreign exchange and paid their taxes Today out of 20 people 12 depend on govt for their salary. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:32pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Gbawe: Sir, I like your argument, though I don't agree with some of the points you posited. The only reason why I challenged the other poster is cos he's being economical with the truth. We're not kids and a lot of us can discern things from afar. Buhari would've been the president, with or without Tinubu and that was obvious way before the election. And I did allude to that when he visited the Archbishop of Canterbury. Apart from the Northern hegemony/oligarchs as a group - OBJ is the most powerful person in Nigeria and the proper old guard who has been at the corridor of power in Nigeria since the end of the civil war. If you understand Nigerian politics from the international perspective looking in, you'll see that. And OBJ supported Buhari and he's active in this government. Ditto the rest. Atiku who has also been there for a long time was also instrumental in making Saraki the Senate president. Then you have a Buhari who has also been around since the end of the civil war. So how did anyone stop the old guard? Also, Tinubu has been cut to size by this government. So we need to leave whoever is ruling at the centre alone cos he has no influence whatsoever there and focus on the non-performing governor and their utter poor fiscal policies. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 3:33pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto: Katsumoto, your argument is by far the more simple and populists, for the sake of it alone, because you don't seem to understand the rudiments of SW politics and simply postulate that its current crop of leaders are "failures". For example you claimed earlier that Amosun, Ambode et al are failures. How can Ambode who has been a governor for around 6 months be deemed a failure by any reasonable person? How is Amosun a failure for anyone who is truly conversant with the many achievement that has seen him praised universally? You then claim I use George, burji Kashamu as a benchmark. This is highly dishonest and I resent it. in fact this is why I avoided your posts earlier even when I saw the huge flaw in thinking and interpretation behind them. For the avoidance of doubt, and for those who read my posta nd understand it, it is 100% I stated that but for Tinubu, it is George, kashamu et al who will hold sway because everyone truly conversant with SW politics know that grassroot issues heavily favour the emergence of those sort as Yoruba leaders. [b]To mark matters worse, you sully the name of great men - Soyinka, Fawehinmi, Solarin, etc to make a point. Are those men politicians? [/b]They simply provide a social conscience for the nation. Why don't Indians compare their politicians to Gandhi? katsumoto, this is more shameless dishonesty and another entirely false interpretation that is simply incongruous with what I wrote. It is crystal clear to everyone I never insulted Soyinka, Fawenhinmi et al. Imerely sought to show that even as these men of integrity never hid they simply did not have the political or grassroot skills/connection that would have propelled them into influential political positions. My posts are still here and I really don't know why, how and for what reasons you have come to these grossly erroneous conclusions. I can only assume gbawe is the bad guy on this threas and opposing/twisting anything he says pays dividends with the likes of Shymmex. forumers help me judge and speak up for what is right and fair. Where and how did I sully the name of Soyinka, fawenhinmi below? i really don't like this brand of open dishonesty and playing to the gallery. It should not be coming from you Katsumoto. Nature abhors a vacuum. If Tinubu is absent, thus creating a vacuum, history has show the pragmatic and practical Yoruba that it is not Solarin, Soyinka, Fawehinmi et al who can plug that vacuum. It is the likes of OBJ, Adedibu, Fayose, OGD et al who emerge to control SW politics and direction. Tinubu has the right balance of good and bad to help the SW on its march towards progress. He has the goodness to empower the Fashola, Fayemis, Ajimobi et al and the readiness to do the bad/dirty work, that Soyinka et al are incapable of, in the effort to defeat the OBJs, Faseuns, Adams, Adedibus et al a their own game. Minus Tinubu then Soyinka and Fawehinmi, as we have seen first hand, will not/cannot stop OBJ et al getting away with enslaving the SW and miring us in gangster politics. 1 Like |
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