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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 6:30pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
coolitempa: lol 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by veraponpo(m): 6:31pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
IlekeHD: You this woman. You keep on impressing me beyond words. You reason deeply and express wisdom always. Kudos. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 6:31pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
[quote author=Aigbofa post=40125130] Is this really katsumoto? Where have been? Long time. Nice to see you here again. [/quote Yes, it is I. I got really busy in the last couple of years and it coincided with the infestation of this board by political jobbers. So I will drop by from time to time. I hope you are keeping well brother. Good to see you too. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by coolitempa(f): 6:32pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
IlekeHD: Question jam question......tisha don't tish me nonsense o.....Omo Eko ni mi o.....se oromi ti ye e... |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 6:32pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
coolitempa: Oogbadun. Se Desola ni e? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 6:35pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto: Kat, why you come dey form. I see your FB posts. You were busy spending money and tasting girls. No wahala. Dayokanu too. I see you guys. Wetin I dey talk. I be small pikin. veraponpo: Lol well, I just can't help myself. Jk. But compared to the posts on this thread, I be small pikin. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 6:35pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto: I disagree. Reality isnt what you make it to be. It is what it is. What we deserve is one thing, what is achievable is another. We deserve 100% employment, Humanity deserve no form of hunger. Being idealistic is what you deserve, being realistic is seeing what is achievable What is the Ekiti reality currently? The reality of Ekiti people is that fayose is their governor, despite it being called the Fountain of knowledge and boasting more professors per capita than any other area in the SW Gani went into politics and what became of it? How many votes was he able to get and how was he able to fill the vacuum of credible leaders he noted Soyinka and Solarin had posts and how did they perform there? How did People's Bank fare under Solarin? That is just a small organisation that doesnt have 10% the complexity of governing a state Tinubu is a local champion yet he has produced the vice president and the president too. Was Awo a local champion when he lost the play at the Federal Level? Not only losing at the Federal level but his opponents used their influence and he ended up in jail too? I asked We deserve better leaders, And some here opined that Tinubu is the one standing in our way of getting them. So I asked the golden question, If Tinubu dies today, Would anyone in the mould of Soyinka or Solarin ever become Governor? 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 6:36pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
raumdeuter: You paint a dark picture so as to scare monger. Why should it be social critic who will take over from Tinubu? Why can't Fashola take over from Tinubu? Must the SW remain in the dark ages? Why can't the SW emulate places that practice 'real domocracy' like the Nordics? 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 6:38pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto: Ok Let me ask. if Tinubu dies today, Would a Fashola, Fayemi(both whom you and others have alluded failed), be able to win elections? It was Tinubu who was MAGNANIMOUS enough to even dig up these type of people and back them to win elections Without Tinubus backing Fashola would never win Surulere LGA nor win the ACN ticket. When Tinubu wasnt a factor we saw those who were ruling but you choose to call it scare mongering I am from Oyo State and I saw where Akala, Adedibu were ruling the state what you call bogeyman was actually a reality in the entire SWest 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 6:49pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Why you guys include Soyinka in the political realm is beyond me - Father of Nigerian literature and cultism. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by coolitempa(f): 6:54pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
IlekeHD: Mo fe gbadun baje baje...... .....Talon je Desola.......Se oruko e ikeji neyin.... ....abi ewo lonje 'nna mehnn'..... 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 7:15pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
raumdeuter: You know what the issue is - some see the glass half full while others see it half empty. Your focus is on what obtains and which must be accepted while my focus is on what should obtain for there to be progress and development. Why can't the people change their focus from 'stomach infrastructure'? 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 7:15pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Me I sha know the thread has shifted from what it was intended for to APC folks trying to sell APC to us. Much has been said about the debts but little has been said about how to climb out of them even by the APC folks. We have been told, aligning with the centre will change the game regardless of what debt is on ground I should then on the side ask, why few months into change - there's no electricity, no fuel? Situations PDP were kicked out for? Fingers crossed. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 7:25pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto: I see it as we are making small progress by at least getting the likes of Fayemi and Fashola in power vs the ones we had before which is seeing it as Half full We got to stomach infrastructure because people have been impoverished over 40yrs. where people depend on govt for everything due to the death of private sector, the death of all non-oil sector of the economy and the oil bred laziness and corruption People are now relatively poorer than they were in the 60's. Where there is poverty Stomach infrastructure cant be avoided If you make 300k a month no one can tempt you with 5k but where you arent guaranteed of the next meal then you would sell your soul to anyone for a plate of rice 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 7:42pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
raumdeuter: So what should people do? The politicians who can make changes aren't making the necessary changes because the status quo suits them. If people demand more accountability, they will get more. This feudal system of grassroot politics isn't good for anyone. Which is why those who don't rely on stomach infrastructure should do what they can to force some changes. We shouldn't applaud Tinubu because he won elections; we should applaud him because the policies of his party are being felt by the average person. I am getting exasperated at the slow pace of change because the world is changing around us; resources are going to get scarcer in the next 20 years and Nigeria needs to be better prepared. And by resources, I mean water, meat, etc. Add to that the decreased revenue from Oil. We are already seeing the effects of mismanagement and corruption - state governments are borrowing more and still can't pay salaries. Soon Nigeria will be sold to the highest bidder and the country will be back will colonial masters - Chinese, Korea. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 7:57pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto: The emboldened is solid. It is only in Nigeria or say Africa that we celebrate politicians for doing what they do - win or lose elections and not for whatever policies or social benefits derived from them and their policies. I wonder if anything has changed since ACN/APC go to the seat of power in the SWest. The roads, electricity, employment, debts are in no way different from that of PDP. As much as I admire Tinubu for being able to hold is own in the political arena, I do not think he deserves that much praise (or comparison to Baba Awo) going by the performances of his party members that have not put PDP in a distant memory. 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 7:58pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
IlekeHD: Hmmmmm Was Martin Luther King involved in "cultism" by being a member of the Alpha Phi Alpha? Ditto Thurgood Marshall? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 8:08pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto: Big Katz, Egbon Dayo is right. Crooks control our voting system. They arrange things for politicians which goes a long way in determining who emerges victorious. Unfortunately, you need those crooks and money to win an election in Nigeria. Poverty is what makes people to collect 2/3/5K from politicians before they cast their vote for them. Poverty is another factor we need to consider, it's a nationwide problem. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 8:33pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
IlekeHD: So, Katsumoto likes women like that? Every time I picture Big Katsumoto in my head - I see a Professor with big glasses like Nutty Professor albeit not fat. As for Big Dayokanu, I see the chics magnet and king of women. Then Uncle Gbawe is a proper jaiye jaiye man. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 8:40pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Lmaooooo I wonder what you imagine when you see Aareonakakanfo in your head. Well, I see one guy in a tuxedo with a walking stick. Shymm3x: Was he? I didn't know. Soyinka wasn't a member, he started the whole culture of Frat/cultism. I'm not sure if he mismanaged it, but you know how Nigerians like to bastardize everything they copy from the West. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:40pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Shymm3x: As much as some of these pseudo-fraternities in Nigeria smear their own names and activies so much that they get regarded as cultists/cultism. Most Nigerians and even Nigerian media have not necessarily been able to get the proper application of 'cult(-ism)'. These school ganags have no religious inclinations or orientations whatsoever and the use of 'cult' as a descriptive term confuses me at times. What Soyinka started was in no way a cult, it was a fraternity with a metaphorical philosophy of life as a sea voyage with its turbulences and treasures requiring coorperation to make the most of it. It is not as though Pyrates are worth rooting for anyways. Bunch of c0cx. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 8:43pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Osomalo: I am not disputing the current situation; I am simply advocating for change so that there can be development. You can't carry on doing the same things and expect change. To change the situation, there must be a change in thinking and action. That's all I am saying. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 8:44pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Shymm3x: I was joking lol. I don't know these people o |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 8:55pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
9jacrip: Obama won the election, why didn't he just sit on his arse arguing that Bush wrecked the economy and increased the budget deficit? As far as some folk are concerned, Tinubu should be worshipped because his party kicked out indolent thugs. And having said that, what did he really do? He outbid the other party; its not like people are loyal to Tinubu because of a magnificent ideology, the loyalty is out of 'who can pay more'. Yet some would make us believe it is something 'babara' (hope i got the spelling and usage right). Not much has changed for the average person; his lot isn't better. He isn't going to better schools or accessing better healthcare. Cronies or politicians are getting richer. Yet the average person will be on the hook for these loans that are being accumulated by these governors. What irks me even more is a comparison with Awo because Awo didn't become PM but Tinubu joined forces with Buhari to win an election against someone most Nigerians were tired of. Absolute balderdash. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by devilishM: 9:04pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
9jacrip: True talk. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:31pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Katsumoto: The embolened again is one of the major reasons many worship him, they've lost sight of the actual problem the SWest is facing. Nobody is looking beyond that - APC have been in government for the past how many years in the SWest and everyone seems to be facing the same place - no one is asking questions and comparing PDP and APC periods to see if anything has changed in all the facets of the obligations of a government. PDP has been kicked out yes, what has changed? As for the comparison with Awo, I still do not see any basis for it. The essence of a politician is how far/well he has been able to affect lives of the common man positively not necessarily how many elections s/he has won/lost. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:33pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
9jacrip: lol I think many of you don't understand the process behind megawatt generation etc. Many of this things will take time. I hope you weren't one those people who expected total "transformation" a month after Buhari's mega win? I'm not supporting any political stooges here, but you need to understand that it take time for 1) the new government to get acquainted with the previous administration (i.e where it left off) 2) The cabinets/staffs 3) Plan/strategize 4) etc I'd have been more nervous had Buhari used gragra to make changes immediately after winning. I thank Eledumare for patient/gentle men in this world. Everything no be gragra. An election is not a magic wand. [Wow....I need to adhere to my own principle too lol] 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:38pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Startups head to Lagos’s Silicon Valley They are changing the residential community into a hub for technology. This has made some call this area Yabacon, or Yaba Silicon Valley. In 2014, Lagos was named as one of the five most promising startup cities in emerging markets. This blooming technology district is in Yaba Local Council Development Area, which was carved out of the old Lagos Mainland Local Government Area. Some high-storey buildings line the Sabo and Alagomeji axis of Yaba but most of the other parts remain bungalows and duplexes for residential use. Yet in the past five years, developers say more houses have been sold for commercial use by technology firms. But what attracts technology companies to Yaba? At Yaba bus stop, there stands a towering statue of Tai Solarin, a renowned Nigerian educationist. Yaba is known for its many institutions of higher learning. Yaba College of Technology is a leading school for technology and the first institution of higher learning in Nigeria, established in 1947. The University of Lagos is known for its research. The Federal Science and Technical College, a leading technical and vocational institution, is also not far away. Many secondary schools also dot the Yaba landscape. This sheer mass of academic institutions provides a pool of fresh talent waiting to be explored. Founder of Entrepreneurship website, Enterprise54.com, Oyeniyi Adegoke, who graduated from the University of Lagos in 2008, says that the high number of tertiary institutions in the area has always made it a hub for young people. After graduating, he remained there. “Yaba has always been known as a centre for youth, many of them doing interesting things with technology. And the technology renaissance we see now is a spin-off of the fact that Yaba is a confluence of young people.” Oyeniyi adds that technology incubators, the first being Co-Creation Hub (CcHUB), nurtured technology in the area. Femi Longe, co-founder of the pioneer technology incubator CcHUB, says Yaba was a second option. “We were initially going to use Lagos Island but there was no property there. The only property we found was at Yaba; it was then we realised that it was an ideal location. It is against traffic. It has proximity to the Island. And it is not too expensive. We realised that it will be easier for our members to come to Yaba than to come to Lagos Island,” Longe says. Initially it occupied one floor of a six-storey building but now the hub has expanded to all the floors, offering various services that cushion the effects of a harsh economy on growing startups. This includes the provision of power, high speed internet, business support and financing advice. Since September 2011, when CcHUB opened for work, 70 startups have passed through it. “We work with them from when their ideas are very young. We help them with strategies to get their ideas off the ground. We also provide for them a place to work out of with internet access, power and everything that a young business needs,” Longe says. With over 100 technology hubs, digital renaissance in Africa is closely related to incubator hubs, the World Bank states. In Yaba, these hubs are attracting young technology enthusiasts from various parts of Lagos. They are also bringing in funders from various parts of the world and attracting tech companies from everywhere to run workshops in the area. Oyeniyi, who worked from the hub for his first year in business, says that it also provides a necessary ecosystem for his work. “The 30,000 naira [$290] I paid every year for space, solid internet and power is unquantifiable. It also positioned me at the nexus of tech activity. I forged useful relationships. I learnt a lot just being there,” he says. Since the early days of CcHUB, other incubator centres like iDEA Nigeria, a hub for startups run by the Nigerian government, and Passion Incubator have sprung up. Over 30 tech companies, foreign and local, have moved to Yaba since 2011. Konga, the e-commerce site, moved to Yaba in 2014. Africa Internet Group moved six of its tech firms to Yaba in 2014. When BudgIT, the first startup to be weaned off CcHUB, looked for office space in early 2015, they found one in Yaba’s Alagomeji area. Young people may be attracted to the hubs but what attracts technology businesses? By working in Yaba, entrepreneurs say unnecessary costs are reduced. Rent is relatively cheap compared to other parts of the city such as Victoria Island, although it is increasing because of the changing business landscape. It is also where they find talent to execute their work. There is an accessible internet connection. In September 2013, telecoms company MainOne, in partnership with Lagos State government, initiated the laying of the fibre-optic cable that covers 27.014 km in the area. Olufunbi Falayi, who manages iDEA Nigeria, says access to the internet may not be cheap but it is accessible. “We pay as much as N20m [$190,000] a year for internet. You can imagine if we cut that down to monthly payments and if it is just one startup, how much it will pay. Last month, our electricity bills rose to N143,000 [$720] a month from N80,000 [$400],” Falayi adds. Lagos’s huge population of 20m presents a market where technological solutions to problems will thrive. Yet there is more that needs to be done to take Yaba to that place that technology innovation centres across the world reach – that point from which they influence not only their own society but the world at large. That point from where Facebook and other tech companies domiciled in Silicon Valley transform the world. For Yaba to be that technology centre in the future, three things – talent, internet and power – are needed. Certain government policies around these three would nurture the ecosystem: tax holidays for technology companies in their first five years; an Independent Power Plan for the area which also includes a no-power-cut period; and a commitment to technology companies who employ directly from the tertiary institutions around. “The government could create a scheme where if a tech organisation hires directly from those schools, the government will match what they are paying the students. We can use that to help students build their work experience. By hiring them, there will also be investment in training – this will go a long way in reducing unemployment,” Longe says, adding that the higher institutions also need to collaborate with their research in a way that will have impact on the growing technology ecosystem. CcHUB is working to turn these potentials into reality with the i-HQ Project, which aspires to build a hot spot for creative ventures with much-needed adequate infrastructure, resources and an enabling environment in Yaba. In the next five years, Falayi sees a different Yaba: “Every tech company, no matter where they are, will have at least a service desk in Yaba. That’s how much it will grow. It will grow from being a residential place to a commercial place. I see situations whereby it will spill into Surulere and into Ikorodu.” Yaba may still be far from that future but one right policy at a time, one new technology company at a time, and the future could be closer. Temitayo Olofinlua http://africanbusinessmagazine.com/sectors/technology/startups-head-to-lagos-silicon-valley/#sthash.5C1rcxhk.dpuf |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 9:40pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
IlekeHD: Loool. Aareonakakanfo in my head looks like the Pied Piper for chics. When you see him coming - you have to hide ya wives/gfs/sisters/daughters, else he'll seduce them and take them away with his magic pipe loool. I think the whole cultism thing in Nigeria is more of a glorified gang culture. There is absolutely nothing occult in what they do and you can't call them fraternities. Wole Soyinka described his own group as a fraternity similar to the black Greek ones albeit with a nucleus that is more African than anything Greek. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:41pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
IlekeHD: LOL Aunty e tin root fun party o. After May 29th or whenever Buhari was sworn in, electricity in Ibadan was constantly 24 hours and if it goes off, before you walk 3 steps it would have been switched back on. After a month, I guess megawatts generation ceased? 4 years will run over soon, we'll see. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 9:42pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
9jacrip: Word. I'm not even a fan of the black Greek fraternities as well - I see them as coons. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:42pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Lord, can we divide Nigeria pleaseeeeeeeeee............. See good news everywhere for the SW. Unfortunately, we'd need to kill off all of our leaders when we divide...starting with oBJ. quimicababes: |
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