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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 1:26pm On Nov 18, 2015

MayorofLagos:
Let me respond to Katz on Osun before I take a break.

Katz,
I still believe in the Yoruba of today as I do in those of past ages and their attitude to land. By custom Yorubas are cultivators of land. We are reputed as city and town builders. How did we build our cities and towns and infrastructures before the arrival of Julius Berger and Cappa d'Alberto?

We've seen pictures of palaces erected three storey high (in fact credit to Terracotta for being one of the first people to bring those into open here) with materials sourced locally from the land. Yorubas in uplands dammed rivers and built water channels. In Kabba, Yorubas used rocksalt to create minute statutes and art crafts numberimg thousands...the likes of which has not been recorded in any history of mankind. The walls of Eredo, the greatest monument in human antiquity, how did we do it? The great walls of Old Oyo and the forts, did Julius Berger build it?

These structures were put up with the communal effort.of the citizens. When citizens have a sense of.ownership in the cause they will sacrifice and volunteer for the collective benefit. Those structures were built in what today would be the responsibility of Public Works Department.

Do we have any PWDs left? We may not be able to achieve the same focus and passion using PWD in LAGOS but in OSUN where largely 90% citizens are invested in the land, I see no reason why a PWD in OSUN could not employ youths and put them to workto renew.and develop townships.

Our governments are taking loans to contract Julius Berger and all these foreign companies to come and build cities and towns for us. Where did our abilities dissapear to, who robbed us our skills to cultivate the land and bring beauty and majesty out of emptiness?

I will keep this short.

Im a strong advocate for redistribution of income. I understand the need to shore up our international ratings and credibility through global financial participation...big man's word for debt! Lol. What I dont understand is we starve our own citizens in order that our cities and towns can stand global acceptance....and we do so by blocking redistribution of income locally.

Osun should review all infrastructure contracts and do two things

1. Create a Marshall plan for employment, youth engagement and development

2. Redirect contracts awarded to foreigners and allocate it locally to boost wage earning, taxes, and discretionary spending so the money can funnel down and go round and bring people into recovery.

Mayor

This is a great idea; why did you think it would be unpopular. This idea shouldn't apply to Osun alone; all SW states can adopt this idea. One of the reasons why communities stay poor is because governments don't spend the proceeds of loans on indigenes preferring to award contracts to external 3rd parties who will come and execute projects and then leave with funds. But current politicians will not adopt this because they wont be able to inflate contracts exorbitantly.

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 1:29pm On Nov 18, 2015

oyb:

I, and a lot of people I know who voted apc, are disappointed in ambode.

The guy inherited a working system and then he basically dismantled fasholas structures, then he went on some bizarre mission to sully fasholas reputation. Then he is taking pages from the Worst of PDP governors, (challenging bus drivers ala fayose), from gej (disjointed rejoinder to the economist scathing article ).

When the man goes to inspect anywhere, he comes off as just coming from a party or being on some sort of jamboree. The robbers have always been on the roads, but they are much more confident right now.

In the wake of the cash crunch, aregbesola seriously fell hand by holding onto the bailout funds and delaying payment of salaries. If I recall, he was demanding workers letters of employment or some such.

Chairman Oyb, how you dey?

Your post illustrates why I called Ambode a failure. He came in with no ideas except to Sully Fashola's name. Lagos has a working machinery; all he needed to do was continue what was on ground while thinking of new ways to generate revenue and improve the standard of living.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by jstbeinhonest(m): 1:33pm On Nov 18, 2015

IlekeHD:

How are you guys enjoying your new Unilag VC?
He keeps selling Lagos.

Unilag does not have a new VC,i guess you meant LASU.

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 1:34pm On Nov 18, 2015

IyaIode:

I'll bet Shymm3x does not know it, i didn't like his character before this thread. Now i always looking forward to reading his posts

Bwaaaahahahhaha cheesy

Wish i can dig through but there was on thread that he was just mentioning MO, calling her everything but a child of God... I don't think he remembers though,cos he has so many monikers & E wars to his credit.. cheesy

Used to be sceptical as well, thinking " this guy is gonna fly off the handle soon oo"

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 1:34pm On Nov 18, 2015

StuntingBlack:
Watching Ogagun Katsumoto in 5D.

Long time ma man!!

How you doin' bruv? Hope you are well.

I love your post. It expatiates on what I was trying to articulate.

People shouldn't just sit on their arses and accept whatever these politicians dish. They need to become more active in governance. How many people organize action to challenge LG Chairman for asinine policies and actions? People need to also educate their family and friends on how to improve the situation. Letting politicians control grass root politics will never improve the situation. The youths are standing by and watching their futures mortgaged. There needs to be active participation by learned folks.

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 1:35pm On Nov 18, 2015

Hmmmn so StuntingBlack is Stblack1.Interesting

You know low-key I really loved that moniker even though I only came across it once but I remember supplying a lot of likes
because I agreed with most of your comments.It was on this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/2662969/igbo-member-lagos-assembly-protests/10#38986346

Welcome bruddah.I think you've made a comment on this thread before eh?

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by StuntingBlack(m): 1:44pm On Nov 18, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:
Hmmmn so StuntingBlack is Stblack1.Interesting

You know low-key I really loved that moniker even though I only came across it once but I remember supplying a lot of likes
because I agreed with most of your comments.It was on this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/2662969/igbo-member-lagos-assembly-protests/10#38986346

Welcome bruddah.I think you've made a comment on this thread before eh?

How u doing Bro.

Men, I had to dispose my moniker seeing that most old cargoes before me have changed theirs. But what actually surprised me was the 'change in intellectual rhetoric' i have witnessed recently.

No wonder I had to change moniker. grin

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 1:49pm On Nov 18, 2015

StuntingBlack:
Once again, Thumbs to Aareonakakanfo for this thread!!!

If I have more time, I'll create a thread titled "Yoruba Politics for Yoruba Youths - A potent weapon vastly disregarded"

ENOUGH OF THE PAIN GUYS.!!

All in all great Bros and Sis,

In peace and greatness, One Love for the Westside!!!

St. Black, throw ya dubs up - West Side till I die! West side Nigeria and west side Africa - west west ya'll!

TQ- West side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfIaHpU5XUg

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 1:50pm On Nov 18, 2015

StuntingBlack:

How u doing Bro.

Men, I had to dispose my moniker seeing that most old cargoes before me have changed theirs. But what actually surprised me was the 'change in intellectual rhetoric' i have witnessed recently.

No wonder I had to change moniker.

Baba mi I dey ooo.

The thread was just neccessary.There is too much bi-ass-fran silliness going on in this section so it came at the right time.

I really love the presence of you oldies here.E saa ma fi wa le

Looking forward to your contributions

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 1:51pm On Nov 18, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:
Hmmmn so StuntingBlack is Stblack1.Interesting

You know low-key I really loved that moniker even though I only came across it once but I remember supplying a lot of likes
because I agreed with most of your comments.It was on this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/2662969/igbo-member-lagos-assembly-protests/10#38986346

Welcome bruddah.I think you've made a comment on this thread before eh?

Brev, please always remember to tag me next time when there's drama anywhere.

I saw you on all those threads. grin

Now, back to the West Side story.

Any topic for today, or should we just continue with the old topic?

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 1:55pm On Nov 18, 2015

Shymm3x:

Brev, please always remember to tag me next time when there's drama anywhere.

I saw you on all those threads.

Now, back to the West Side story.

Any topic for today, or should we just continue with the old topic?

Haha you mean this particular one or the one I posted yesterday?

Yeah I'll make sure I tag you

Abeg help us come up with something new.The Tinubu/APC discussions are usually too heated for my liking

I love peace

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:01pm On Nov 18, 2015

Shymm3x:

I actually thought she just turned the noun "coconut" (a derogatory word for a black person that acts white) into an adjective. So, Ilekeh, you called me a "blockhead", no? - Diarisgod!!!

I'm like that and I'm sure the majority of folks on this forum don't like me. I just catch fun on here how I can. It's basically like in the real world as well. Though I'm more reserved, most folks that don't know me always think I'm arrogant/snobbish and they believe I think I'm better than everyone cos you'll never catching me smiling or watching people. And I seldom talk as well. However, once they get to know me - they know I'm a different animal, the type of guy you just can't hate.

My life's just simple and straight-forward...I don't take life seriously and I don't care about anything. I'm just like Mark Twain with a remix. The ideal life to me is about: good friends, good books, hustling,beautiful women, and a sleepy conscience.

I used to see think of you as a naija hater, reading your posts here shows you want the best for your people. It's hard not to feel that way having grown up in a sane society.
Most times I'll be like ki lo ma n se bobo londoner yi gan cheesy

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:03pm On Nov 18, 2015

modath:

Bwaaaahahahhaha

Wish i can dig through but there was on thread that he was just mentioning MO, calling her everything but a child of God... I don't think he remembers though cos he has so many monikers & E wars to his credit..

Used to be sceptical as well, thinking " these guy is gonna fly off the handle soon oo"

Loool. I'm a lover not a fighter.

But due to how this forum is - you just have to flip to keep folks at bay. People are just naturally disrespectful, and perhaps it's cos I'm from an environment where "respect" is very important.

If I offended you in the past - I take it back and I apologise. I've lost count of the number of folks I've had brutal e-duels with on here. grin

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 2:04pm On Nov 18, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:

Haha you mean this particular one or the one I posted yesterday?

Yeah I'll make sure I tag you

Abeg help us come up with something new.The Tinubu/APC discussions are usually too heated for my liking

I love peace

So you just want to discuss ideas in theory? How is it possible to improve the commonwealth without challenging the status quo?

Not saying this should be the only topic but avoiding or postponing it is unproductive. If you ignore it, how will their lieutenants here tell them what is going on?

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:07pm On Nov 18, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:

Haha you mean this particular one or the one I posted yesterday?

Yeah I'll make sure I tag you

Abeg help us come up with something new.The Tinubu/APC discussions are usually too heated for my liking

I love peace

Loool. Yes, I definitely would have loved to post gifs on there and perhaps put the snakey guy playing both sides in check. It's over for now, till more juicy details start coming through. Too bad I missed most of the exhibits. Things are happening.

I'm waiting for TerraCotta and Katsumoto to finish their debate, before we move to football. We need to discuss why Yorubas aren't producing footballing talents in Nigeria, since there are loads of Yoruba footballers in other countries that are far better than those playing for the Super Eagles.

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:07pm On Nov 18, 2015

Katsumoto:

Chairman Oyb, how you dey?

Your post illustrates why I called Ambode a failure. He came in with no ideas except to Sully Fashola's name. Lagos has a working machinery; all he needed to do was continue what was on ground while thinking of new ways to generate revenue and improve the standard of living.

we are cool ; and sweating in night traffic jams

long time no see, and hope you will spend at least two weeks with us before going on another 3 month hiatus cheesy

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:10pm On Nov 18, 2015

IyaIode:

I used to see think of you as a naija hater, reading your posts here shows you want the best for your people. It's hard not to feel that way having grown up in a sane society.
Most times I'll be like ki lo ma n se bobo londoner yi gan

Lool.

I actually love Nigeria more than most folks. Love Nigeria so much, I've got a tattoo of Nigeria on my body and that's permanent.

However, the fact that nothing works in the country is just troubling and all I do is proffer solutions about the best alternative the best way I can since the country isn't working. Though passion does get in the way sometimes.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:11pm On Nov 18, 2015

Katsumoto:

So you just want to discuss ideas in theory? How is it possible to improve the commonwealth without challenging the status quo?

Not saying this should be the only topic but avoiding or postponing it is unproductive. If you ignore it, how will their lieutenants here tell them what is going on?

I just feel we've discussed it extensively.Haba! ojo merin

A loyalist will remain a loyalist but If you feel you still have interest in the topic, ko si aburu.

I just want peace

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Desola(f): 2:17pm On Nov 18, 2015

Katsumoto:

Dessy baby - how you doing?

I see your shenanigans.

I see you and Ileke and all these small small shrimps. angry

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by StuntingBlack(m): 2:40pm On Nov 18, 2015

Katsumoto:

How you doin' bruv? Hope you are well.

I love your post. It expatiates on what I was trying to articulate.

People shouldn't just sit on their arses and accept whatever these politicians dish. They need to become more active in governance. How many people organize action to challenge LG Chairman for asinine policies and actions? People need to also educate their family and friends on how to improve the situation. Letting politicians control grass root politics will never improve the situation. The youths are standing by and watching their futures mortgaged. There needs to be active participation by learned folks.

To be frank, I burn with rage sometimes when I realize that a good number of us WILL never jettison the idea of a 'justified' political arson against their family members or benefactors that feed fat on the sufferings we face. But what can a man do other than keep burning with rage? And do you know the funny stuff in this is that many if us will rather think of fleeing our fatherland INSTEAD of think of ways to contribute to an emergency solution.

There's this colleague of mine who will always sound it right in my ears that he can never be involved in nation building because some set of peole will still come back and destroy the same nation he helped build. Sometimes he tells me : "Where is the pride in been a Yoruba when you have no life to show for it? "
I tell you Katz, as trivial as that question can be, there is a whole HELL OF WEIGHT in it. On realizing that even we the same Youth will be the ones ending up going againsts the throats of each other in defence of these crooks called leaders, I WAS SHUT UP BY HIS QUESTION.!

The present reality is that even we the serious ones will find it extremely hard to lead a radical change (not that of the useless APC even though I voted APC). Left to me, there are only 2 ways to build the SW and consolidate the Sage's legacy:

1. [b]Through a massive youth support of tested and trusted leaders. Trust me, if a situation where more than 70% Yoruba youths agree with one voice arises, THESE THIEVES WILL BE DONE FOR. As things stand, Fashola is the only man most people can vouch for, but alas, does Fashola even have the numbers in terms if Youth support talk less the whole Yoruba pooulace?

2. Through a temporary military junta that will clear the corrupt politicians. I am sure you will understand my point here. This process involves a short-lived military regime that will make so many wide range of delicate changes involving:

-Suspend the constitution and develop a new constitution that will mimick that of developed countries, albeit tailored to suit what will work fir us as Africans.

-Seize the passports of most corrupt politicians

-Confiscate their assets or execute them if they prove too difficult to handle.

-Change the system of voting (that will enable voters choose the man and not the party) , the executive, judicial and legislative systems

..... and so on. A short 4-year transition regime that achieves these things mentioned above will do wonders men!![/b]

BUUUUUUUUUUT,
No lieing, Its far more complex (BUT PLAUSIBLE) than words of mouth Katz, I gatta admit !!

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by StuntingBlack(m): 3:11pm On Nov 18, 2015

Shymm3x:

St. Black, throw ya dubs up - West Side till I die! West side Nigeria and west side Africa - west west ya'll!

TQ- West side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfIaHpU5XUg

My Thuggin' Shymexx. Hw u diggin it over there bro....

Heard you are now the Duke of 'em Ibo chics. Cant stop LMAO. grin

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 3:27pm On Nov 18, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:
On Today's episode of "How to identify a mad man", This is what I have for you all

Start from page 45

https://www.nairaland.com/2618835/hoodlums-shut-down-alaba-international/45

They are both wereys.

They have both taken over the thread, they've been bashing eachother for about 20pages. Those dudes are sick.

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:27pm On Nov 18, 2015

Shymm3x:

I actually thought she just turned the noun "coconut" (a derogatory word for a black person that acts white) into an adjective. So, Ilekeh, you called me a "blockhead", no? - Diarisgod!!!

I'm like that and I'm sure the majority of folks on this forum don't like me. I just catch fun on here how I can. It's basically like in the real world as well. Though I'm more reserved, most folks that don't know me always think I'm arrogant/snobbish and they believe I think I'm better than everyone cos you'll never catching me smiling or watching people. And I seldom talk as well. However, once they get to know me - they know I'm a different animal, the type of guy you just can't hate.

My life's just simple and straight-forward...I don't take life seriously and I don't care about anything. I'm just like Mark Twain with a remix. The ideal life to me is about: good friends, good books, hustling,beautiful women, and a sleepy conscience.

Say whattttt?

IyaIode

IyaIode:

I'll bet Shymm3x does not know it, i didn't like his character before this thread. Now i always looking forward to reading his posts

Lol.....

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:32pm On Nov 18, 2015

Desola:

I see your shenanigans.

I see you and Ileke and all these small small shrimps.

Small shrimp? grin

See this small girl sef grin

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:34pm On Nov 18, 2015

So StBlack is back too?

Always thought the dude was superstar1 or oduastates.

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tupacshakur(m): 3:39pm On Nov 18, 2015

ARIZONA123:
. Thunder tear you into pieces. Bastardt from ogbomosho. Must you yeribastards mention biafran in every of ur nairaland comment? Once again ogun kill you there. Cc:Emeritus,MrMbam,Subway101

Frustrated Biafran Soul! grin

Do you realize this website is owned by a "yeribastard"?

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:41pm On Nov 18, 2015

Abeg abeg leave the red mud mawffugh

He has been here before and we handled it well

Report the derailers everyone plus the one who came before him to cancel Ilekehd's posts

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tupacshakur(m): 3:43pm On Nov 18, 2015

XBLadez:
[s][/s]
Yoruba slut, I've warned you before to stop derailing Igbo threads. You're free to bash us at the front page but NOT IN OUR OWN THREADS!

I won't warn you again. Just try it again.

Wetin you go do, toothless Bulldog? You wan die?

Do you realize your post is an attempt to derail this beautiful thread?

Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:44pm On Nov 18, 2015

[size=17pt]LETS ALWAYS ENDEAVOUR TO REPORT THE DERAILERS[/size]

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