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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 1:56pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Loool Shymm3x go crash yesterday ![]() ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 1:58pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
CabbieAC, I don't agree with you about the Tribalism argument for why we don't do well in football... We don't even make the effort, we are bookish, parents don't encourage extra curricular activities as a tribe... I read something about how OJB Jezreel had to lead a delegation to beg Wizkid's parents to allow him explore his musical talent... Olamide said he was on the streets for 6yrs & used to sleep on the floor of ID Cabasa 's studio cos his parents were not prepared to hear anything that isn't about his studies... I have a cousin who could play well (subjective) as a teen but he never took it further cos he knew his parents weren't bout that life, Life hasn't been especially harsh to him but he never ceases to talk about what could have been if he had had the "liver" to pursue his dreams. Till date,he still plays set with his neighbourhood friends... So Aare, you can't complain about not being lifted when you didn't even raise ya hands.. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by MayorofLagos(m): 2:00pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
IlekeHD: I dont flirt, i dont look at another man's girl, im a one-woman's man.....always have been. Ask tpiah. ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:07pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
modath: Looool Aunty mi trust me I know what I'm talking about.I was street you know ![]() ![]() I disagree with the emboldened.All you just need to do is to find a football field around you.For every Chinedu, there's always an Ahmed and a Sola The examples you cited is not just Yoruba parents alone,parents regardless of their ethnicity are usually skeptical about their children going into music or football During trials,the money aspect is the most important,then ability,then tribe.In that order |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by MayorofLagos(m): 2:09pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
modath: Hhmmmm, true talk. ...there are many children whose divine destiny was stalled or completely weakened because of parents insistence to shape their kids path. Obsession with titles - iya lawyer, iya doctor. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by sirade(m): 2:09pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
naijababe:Not only in SW, the political menace cut across every geopolitical zone in Nigeria. Until Nigerians know that they have the mandate of change their political cause things will not change positively. I am enjoying the thread Ekuse |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ritchiee: 2:13pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Shymm3x: |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ritchiee: 2:16pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:25pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Saw some Yorubas marking register on biafran threads even after the sermons we delivered.9jacrip what exactly can we do to help these guys? This wan don pass wetin eye see oo Tevinsolt I might have to be posting this your comment on every page ooo.Ha! tevinsolt: |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by MayorofLagos(m): 2:29pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
CabbieAC: I can't speak for the hinterland but in Lagos soccer was an institution. On Island, from Campos to Onola, Berger, Ebute Alagbafo, they had seasonal tournaments with trophy. Some of these guys ended in clubs like Nepa, First Bank, Customs and so on. My father kept newspaper clippings. At these same fields they had high jump and pole vault competitions. Beside these they had recreation centers in Oko Awo and Oke Arin. Weightlifting was in there, gymnastics with the horses, the suspended rings, they had boxing training...all kind of indoor sports. There was Biney sports center in Yaba for bsketball and swimming, as well as another located close by national stadium. So i know about the potentials and missed opportunities. In my opening to this discussion series i started by saying "opportunity cost". Whats the vision, what are we in sports? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 2:31pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
CabbieAC: Aare shey you see you stylishly agreed with me, while Chinedu joins 3SC, Kano Pillars & Enyimba, Ahmed joins one Alhaji in his BDC biz & Sola will find beta jamb lesson to badt to enrol in cos he dare not fail jamb the sixth time.. Yoruba parents place so much stock in education that you dare not even think otherwise.. Taiye Taiwo is a friend to a family friend, it was no cake walk for him.. Falz the badt guy, Femi Falana's Son said until he stared to get depressed about showing up for work in his father's chambers that he summoned courage to tell his parents that he is only a Lawyer to please them but his heart isn't in it.. Mayoroflagos , you are right on the money, the guy claims that his mom still finds it difficult to come to terms with the fact that one of her "Lawyers" aint De Lawing it any longer... ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 2:36pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
MayorofLagos: The irony of the point you make about physical sports is that there are more Yoruba sons in combat sports than any other group in Naija. I watch a lot of Boxing and UFC and the names I see these days are Yoruba. Boxing Anthony Olufemi Joshua - 2012 Olympic Heavyweight Gold medalist and current darling ofHeavyweight Boxing Larry Ekundayo Lateef Kayode - very funny chap Segun Ajose UFC Jimi Manuwa Oluwale Bamgbose In terms of spread, Yoruba are into more sports although the dominance is only in Table Tennis. The issue I tend to have with Yoruba in sports is one of discipline. Sport requires discipline but current players aren't too disciplined hence the limited success. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 2:38pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Have often wondered why our lads ain't overly represented in football in particular and am kinda gleaning some real factual information from you guys as to reasons behind in this and it's kinda making sense all over again. Interesting one of the earlier posters mentioned how parents in naija literally beat the crap out of their kids if they attempt to be more sporty than academic which i wholeheartedly agree with having witnessed same all thru my growing years. My late dad, despite being a football enthusiast especially our local leagues and a part time member of the supporters club, he just could not bear having one of his kids play football! some irony you would say?! and to think bar myself all my other sibling played at every stage of the school years but breaking into the professional arena was an abomination . . . . . sad u would say. You just had to become a doctor or lawyer or accountant! anything outside that won't fly or it might just have to be exorcised out of you ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:41pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
tupacshakur:You i right to an extent, i visit oshodi and mushin quite often and i see these boys wasting away, i wonder what they could have become had they not taken this route. Funny thing is that a lot of these guys ended up on the streets while doing sports, most especially boxing. You need to see what training "tarmacs" of old have become. The earlier we accept and fight this problem the better o |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:46pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
modath: At aalll I haven't agreed ooo ![]() ![]() In the Nigerian league,all tribes are represented. Nigerian parents regardless of their ethnicities frown at their children going into soccer.You probably haven't seen Okocha/kanu narrate their experiences All Naija parents want their Children to be doctors,lawyers and engineers.Its a Naija thing not a Yoruba thing |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:51pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Eyin temi, especially Aunty Ilekeh, I am still in Ibadan but I've passed word to folks in that axis (Osun State University campus in Ejigbo) to get me photos of the building. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 2:52pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Katsumoto: You forgot NBA and NFL (though there are more Igbos in the league, there are also loads of Yoruba guys and more are coming through). We're pretty decent in track and field as well. Dasaolu has the second fastest time for 100m in British history and Philip Idowu is the 2nd greatest triple jumper in British history. Not forgetting the greatest British Decathlon athlete - Daley Thompson - who won two Olympics gold medals and broke the world record four times. David Alaba of Bayern Munich is also Yoruba. And apparently his dad took him to Nigeria to play for the country when he was 15/16 and he was rejected. Yet the same guy is leading a mediocre Austrian team to the Euro Championship in France. Guardiola called him the most gifted/versatile footballer on the planet and he can play any position. The guy isn't even 26 yet, but he has won everything to be won in football at club level. 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:53pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
MayorofLagos: In Nigerian sports,"opportunity cost" shouldn't even be a topic because there's nothing bigger than football I'm not fazed by our performance in the other sports.Nigerians hardly watch them If we're not doing well in football,then we are not doing well in Sports Why should you fail maths and pass Home econs |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 2:55pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
CabbieAC: |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:02pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Interloper I honestly don't know why you guys think this is a Yoruba issue Anyhow sha,I'm speaking from experience. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 3:03pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Interesting you mentioned David Alaba, i was in Vienna a few months ago and despite being an almost all white homogenous society, to see a full size bill board picture of David Alaba kinda humbled me, he really is more than a role model in the sporting circle out there and judging from my street perception, he his fully a part of (them) thru and thru . . . . . fair play to him i tell u ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 3:08pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
interloper: Loool. The guy is their captain and their hero. He is the heart and soul of their football team. Without him, they won't even have qualified for the Euro championship cos the team is mediocre lol. He's like what Suker and Poborsky used to be to Croatia and Czech Republic respectively back in the day. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:12pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
When we are done with sports, i want to talk about terrorism, radicalisation and extremism in the SW. Its no news that anywhere you find muslims in large numbers, the above is a worry ( i am muslim BTW). I know Lagos State government has a firm grip on who becomes Imam in every mosque including private ones. I hope other SW states are coping this model, we already have a case of the knive holding BRITISH boy with a Yoruba name, we have also read about DSS operation against boko haram affiliate group in kogi (next door neighbor). We don't want our kids getting radicalised, i hope DAWN or whoever is incharge is seriously taking this up. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ritchiee: 3:13pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
I quoted my bruv shymm3x and deleted it, remembering that he is a Yoruba dude and Yorubas are known for their intelligence from time immemorial.Brudda...there are two sides to every issue, one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil. The man who is wrong still retains some respect for truth, if only by accepting the responsibility of choice. But the man in the middle is the knave who blanks out the truth in order to pretend that no choice or values exist, who is willing to sit out the course of any battle, willing to cash in on the blood of the innocent or to crawl on his belly to the guilty, who dispenses justice by condemning both the robber and the robbed to jail, who solves conflicts by ordering the thinker and the fool to meet each other halfway. In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit. In that transfusion of blood which drains the good to feed the evil, the compromise is the transmitting rubber tube.You dig? We are a family...If someone were to harm my family or a friend or somebody I love, I would eat them. I might end up in jail for 1000 years, but I would eat them...lol |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:14pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
MayorofLagos: I see how tpiah is trying so hard to insert herself into the chatty-patty chaos. Honestly the girl just funny die ![]() ![]() |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 3:19pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
CabbieAC: I wouldn't put it down to a yoruba "faux pas" per se . . . .but we have heard one too many of our friends, neighbours, relatives and siblings whilst growing up "subtly" complain about a typical yoruba parents attitude towards child discipline, child psychologist will let us believe if you provide both emotional and psychological support to kids at an early age in discovering their innate talent especially in sports, this helps to bring the best out of them and they go on to being an happy and healthy citizen and much more!!! Much as this support is not there for the asking . . . . . me think over parenting killed many yoruba parents in this regard, whilst other tribes parentally (for want of a better word to say) . . . . permit their kids to have a kinda "free range" upbringing and as such they can roam around the neighbourhood with the peers and they might just b lucky to discover a sporting activities they might love and get interested in, i know in their eyes the parents were looking out for us and want us t be the best, but really the best comes in different jobs and skills and not necessary from being a white collar worker . . . . .sighs But to some extent we (yoruba kids) were constantly reminded the path to being a doctor or a lawyer ain't thru football then hahaha . . . . .guess we know better now. Yeah i agree to some extent ain't an exclusive yoruba thing but this over parenting more rampant within our ethnic subset 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by MayorofLagos(m): 3:23pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Katsumoto: Not to digress from the point under discussion but you recall in 2008/2009 some American banks and corporations were classified as "too big to fail" and given Govt protection against market forces. Football, Basketball, Baseball, Hockey are also in the bracket of American institutions that will never be allowed to fail. In Europe and South America Soccer is more than just being called a sport! A food vendor alone with a concession contract to supply food and refreshments at a major soccer or baseball game will take home about $10,000...this about 6,000 pounds sterling. We do not yet operate our sports on that scale. We did not have a cinema flavor that has appeal around the globe twenty years ago. Until very recently we did not have a music genre that plays on airwaves round the globe, until recently. No doubt, whatever we touch in Nigeria turns to gold!. European teams will continue to recruit our players, so there is a open channel...wide open for seeding and developing sports in Nigeria as a big money maker. When that day comes, one of the many ethnic groups in Nigeria would wield the power and occupy decision making. Which group would it be? Let me reference Segun Odegbami commenting not long ago that a lot of people who he believes were fans of Orji Uzor Kalu, his competition for post of FIFA President, would prefer a foreigner is given the position if Kalu did not get it. Sports has, in a way, become instrument of political negotiation. We cannot afford not to be the decision makers for mega sports wealth in Nigeria |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by MayorofLagos(m): 3:27pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
IlekeHD: You miss her, don't you? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:27pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Yayyy sports discussion! So very interesting. [NOT] |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 3:28pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by MayorofLagos(m): 3:30pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
CabbieAC: If home econs becomes the currency of power across the globe, by God, Im Aceing it! |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by MayorofLagos(m): 3:31pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
IlekeHD: ![]() ![]() Let me go tell her you are upset she has not shown up here in two days. |
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