freshvine:
For me I've read good part of the story and here's my deduction.

Babe knows that coogar is a fraudster right from the onset but tag along either for love or using the Maga as a cash cow. Things fell apart and Babe demanded for settlement from coogar and if he decline she'll blow hot but coogar dismiss her threat like the ranting of an ant. She then think of a way to blackmail coogar into paying her since he has deliberately gone incommunicado and made her moves on nairaland. Coogar sensing danger and the attendant repercussions equally threaten to expose her nudes, that threat brought in his foes who are adamant to make him go under if he doesn't cooperate and pay the girl off.

The humanitarian group only concern is to coerced coogar into redeeming his promise to his ex girlfriend but coogar is much concerned about his online reputation and that necessitated him employing all he has to protect the already laundered image.

Babe is hurt and what becomes of this issue would tentatively be secondary to her. Inside of her, she prays this doesn't snowball into something unmanageable but bank on her 'negotiators' to keep everything within the confine of Nairaland. Coogar can't accept being a fraudster and babe knows that because if he eventually accept, he will implicate her. Both actors are keeping sensitive information away from nairaland.

Jaybee, from the last post before my analysis, I think your hands did be tied being a turncoat at an instant just after engaging coogar. This peace deal and fence mending is rather instantaneous.

You give good analysis, miss. You definitely don't send your rent to no one and don't do as you are told.

Mindfulness:


Then they get the lessons they desperately need. Every painful experience is a lesson if you are a good student.

you make a good point but we should try and avoid what is called double[b] victimization [/b]of the 'victims'. That's when the victims are advised to let the sleeping dogs lie or when they are advised not to seek any kind of recourse jjust cause they are complicit in the situation or were too dumb to realize they were being played.

I get that we should take responsibility for ourselves, but it shouldn't include over blaming ourselves cause of our flaws

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Good you admitted he handled a 75 paged rampaging crowd well. Reminds of me of how I once smashed a rampaging 7 man panel interview.

Toby77:


you make a good point but we should try and avoid what is called double [b]victimization [/b]of the 'victims'. That's when the victims are advised to let the sleeping dogs lie or when they are advised not to seek any kind of recourse jjust cause they are complicit in the situation or were too dumb to realize they were being played.

You have made a very good point here. I wasn't sure if Babe3 was taking the right path because I saw more problems coming her way by taking the issue online but now that it seems that she is getting her money back, I can comfortably congratulate her. I am very happy for her even though I think that what happened to her happened for a reason.

I get that we should take responsibility for ourselves, but it shouldn't include over blaming ourselves cause of our flaws

This also is a very good point. Taking responsibility is very different from blaming oneself. It is important to understand the difference.

Still same shii
I refuse to spend my precious weekend on this shii like I did last weekend

Mindfulness:


Yeah and the girl is nothing but an innocent victim. She had no control over what happened to her and she won't have any control if it happens to her again because when bad things happen we are helpless victims. Yeah, right.

She might not have been a victim from the things we have seen, but there have been others who were genuine victims we were hearing stories about before and Sauron disappeared.

Mindfulness:


Ask her what her part in all of this was and if she has learned her lessons. If she continues feeling like a victim, she will remain a victim forever.

offcourse she was dumb? isn't it obviuos every Coogar victim is dumb and gullible? that is obvious. She also had emotional issues then so she's not exactly perfect. we all have our flaws and weaknesses. it was tough though as she slid into depression and suicidal tendencies. She's better now though, who sang what doesn't kill you makes you stronger?

naturalwaves:


Good you admitted he handled a 75 paged rampaging crowd well. Reminds of me of how I once smashed a rampaging 7 man panel interview.

Yes,you smashed a seven man interview panel? You are just like your mentor,coogar. Liars.

Coogar should channel his energy into something positive.

Gamesmart:


She might not have been a victim from the things we have seen, but there have been others who were genuine victims we were hearing stories about before and Sauron disappeared.

I really have difficulties seeing women, who date people who behave like Coogar, as victims. What were they attracted to? To his crass, discriminating, populist, undeveloped opinions? To his curses? To the confidence everyone can fake online? The problem I have with the word victim is that it implies that these people have absolutely no responsibility in all of this when the truth is that they chose to mingle with such dubious folks.
Another problem I have with the term victim is that it implies that you have no control over what happens to you when in fact you have a lot of control. Vicitmizing people makes them helpless but the aim should be to empower them. Therefore, the question in all of this should be, what was my contribution to the problem and how can I avoid it by making better choices in the future.


When we understand why we attract pain to our lives, we can avoid it. This is empowerment.

Don't get me wrong, I am not judging them. I had to go through lots of pain to understand that it was me who is responsible for the pain and misery I attract - and once I understood it, I was free and ever since I have been attracting wonderful people and wonderful experiences to my life.

crazo:

Looool. He actually flew KLM . London-Amsterdam-Nigeria. You know he's a man of repute so he has to come over to the branch he was 'dormiciled' and speak to the manager directly.
And as an IT consultant at least from the little I know(which is actually close to nothing), you can actually forecast the market and come home when you feel the demand will be low. Buh e be like say bros own na wash because that time when he been come 'lagos' na one of the peak periods for UK, so if u leave lasan na poundsES don fly go be that oh. What I can deduce is he scammed the girl,emotionally,psychologically and financially buh it is the extent of the financial aspect that I don't know. Kudos to the girl for coming out tho,most people will just bottle it ni. But she ought to have suspected one or two of his dealings tho, she fumble for that side

Kudos to BABE3! You have to give her that.

Many have been banged and passed money over to him that have left quietly because of the shame.

Toby77:


offcourse she was dumb? isn't it obviuos every Coogar victim is dumb and gullible? that is obvious. She also had emotional issues then so she's not exactly perfect. we all have our flaws and weaknesses. it was tough though as she slid into depression and suicidal tendencies. She's better now though, who sang what doesn't kill you makes you stronger?

Is the fraud squad making him repay the other women he swindled? If not, why not?

Mindfulness:


I really have difficulties seeing women, who date people who behave like Coogar, as victims. What were they attracted to? To his crass, discriminating, populist, undeveloped opinions? To his curses? To the confidence everyone can fake online?

Wicked!!!

Avalon316:


Yes,you smashed a seven man interview panel? You are just like your mentor,coogar. Liars.

Coogar should channel his energy into something positive.

Hahaha...funny dude. I guess you haven't seen such before. He isn't my mentor but he handled the crowd and the heat well.

airmark:



He once said he earned 500 pounds per day, so 2700 will not be an issue to him. Unless you know what we don't know about his IT contractor profession.

With the spending he claims, you would need at least £2700 a day to justify all these flying girls first class, divorce payouts and getting Arif's exclusive Premier Client Deluxe services of being your personal fixer.

Only £500? .......The story no wash.

Mindfulness:


I really have difficulties seeing women, who date people who behave like Coogar, as victims. What were they attracted to? To his crass, discriminating, populist, undeveloped opinions? To his curses? To the confidence everyone can fake online? The problem I have with the word victim is that it implies that these people have absolutely no responsibility in all of this when the truth is that they chose to mingle with such dubious folks.
Another problem I have with the term victim is that it implies that you have no control over what happens to you when in fact you have a lot of control. Vicitmizing people makes them helpless but the aim should be to empower them. Therefore, the question in all of this should be, what was my contribution to the problem and how can I avoid it by making better choices in the future.


When we understand why we attract pain to our lives, we can avoid it. This is empowerment.

Don't get me wrong, I am not judging them. I had to go through lots of pain to understand that it was me who is responsible for the pain and misery I attract - and once I understood it, I was free and ever since I have been attracting wonderful people and wonderful experiences to my life.

You realize there is a significant age gap between them? You mean a 32yr old man cant spin an 18yr old girl anyway he wants?
You were once 18 too and you knew how immature you were compared to you currently. Most of the confidence and discernment you are talking about comes from years of experience being treated well by good guys and possibly heartbreaks from bad guys.

Who told you he behaves like this in real life. From whats being said on this thread dont you know real life personas differ from NL persona? Abi is it not the happily married confident women on family section that some fell victim too?


She is learning and I believe she would become stronger from this

Avalon316:


Wicked!!!

I didn't mean to be wicked. It is just that the guy has lots of potential but has been successful with making use of less than 50% of all of it because too many women are emotionally unhealthy.

Mindfulness:


I really have difficulties seeing women, who date people who behave like Coogar, as victims. What were they attracted to? To his crass, discriminating, populist, undeveloped opinions? To his curses? To the confidence everyone can fake online? The problem I have with the word victim is that it implies that these people have absolutely no responsibility in all of this when the truth is that they chose to mingle with such dubious folks.
Another problem I have with the term victim is that it implies that you have no control over what happens to you when in fact you have a lot of control. Vicitmizing people makes them helpless but the aim should be to empower them. Therefore, the question in all of this should be, what was my contribution to the problem and how can I avoid it by making better choices in the future.


When we understand why we attract pain to our lives, we can avoid it. This is empowerment.

Don't get me wrong, I am not judging them. I had to go through lots of pain to understand that it was me who is responsible for the pain and misery I attract - and once I understood it, I was free and ever since I have been attracting wonderful people and wonderful experiences to my life.

The insecure type looking for a successful man and who are attracted to the confidence, swag and wittiness he displays. Thinking it makes him unique and attractive.

naturalwaves:

Hahaha...funny dude. I guess you haven't seen such before. He isn't my mentor but he handled the crowd and the heat well.

He has the talent of LAWRENCE ANINI,the most notorious armed robbery Nigeria has ever had. He kept on defending his guilty arse even instead of hiding his head in shame.

If he continues this way,he may well end up like ANINI,his mentor.

You guys should rather pray for him. Stop praising him. He should go get a degree and get a job.


Ahhhhh,it's so annoying.

raumdeuter:


You realize there is a significant age gap between them? Who told you he behave like this in real life.
You mean a 32yr old man cant spin an 18yr old girl anyway he wants?

You were once 18 too and you knew how immature you were compared to you currently. Most of the confidence and discernment you are talking about comes from years of experience being treated well by good guys and possibly heartbreaks from bad guys.

She is learning and I believe she would become stronger from this

You are absolutely right. This is why I consider a big age difference problematic but that is a different topic.

I will be honest, I made some very stvpid decisions when I was young and at some time in my life I realized that not every young person made such stvpid decisions and I was wondering why. I then discovered that I was a mess and from then on I tried to fix it and I did and my life changed for the better. I can't save everyone from the experience Babe3 or I went through but maybe I can inspire a person or two. If I can't, so be it, I believe that life always gives us the lesson we need.

raumdeuter:


Mindfulness. I would say any human can fall for a scam. We all have our weak points, all is needed is for the scammer to pretend to be the person you so much desire

How do you know your current BF is not a big scam just waiting to cash out big on you at a later date. Love business every human relation has its risk because you only know your own motive you dont know the other persons

You can have controls in place but there is always someone who knows the way around your security system

Read about scam, watch "American greed and see how people very intelligent and classy have fallen to scams.

Everyone can fall for a scam, it is about the length of the fall that we are blaming BABE3 for. Once she knew and did not leave, she was no more a victim.

Gamesmart:


The insecure type looking for a successful man and who are attracted to the confidence, swag and wittiness he displays. Thinking it makes him unique and attractive.

You have nailed it with this post. I just want to put more emphasis on the factor these women have in all of this and that is their insecurity.

Mindfulness:


I didn't mean to be wicked. It is just that the guy has lots of potential but has been successful with making use of less than 50% of all of it because too many women are emotionally unhealthy.

What potential? Cussing? Spending hours on a faceless forum? What potential?

Oh,I understand. He has the potential ANINI( Nigerian's most notorious armed robbery) had.

Mindfulness:


I really have difficulties seeing women, who date people who behave like Coogar, as victims. What were they attracted to? To his crass, discriminating, populist, undeveloped opinions? To his curses? To the confidence everyone can fake online? The problem I have with the word victim is that it implies that these people have absolutely no responsibility in all of this when the truth is that they chose to mingle with such dubious folks.
Another problem I have with the term victim is that it implies that you have no control over what happens to you when in fact you have a lot of control. Vicitmizing people makes them helpless but the aim should be to empower them. Therefore, the question in all of this should be, what was my contribution to the problem and how can I avoid it by making better choices in the future.


When we understand why we attract pain to our lives, we can avoid it. This is empowerment.

Don't get me wrong, I am not judging them. I had to go through lots of pain to understand that it was me who is responsible for the pain and misery I attract - and once I understood it, I was free and ever since I have been attracting wonderful people and wonderful experiences to my life.

it's the Power or the supposed Power. Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac, and supreme confidence such as the moniker Coogar exudes online is very attractive especially to young ladies because it demonstrates a kind of self mastery and power. It doesn't matter the caustic language, it's all part of the dominance. You have to give it too Coogar though, he spins it well. He can make you believe anything. There are still some here that do genuinely believe he's been set up or ganged up against. That goes to the 'talent' he has. I'm sure if Coogar were to channel his talent into something positive the sky would be the limit. BUt ALAS! we have a tragedy of a person

The ladies are already reaping what they sow when it eventually dawns on them that they have been played. That alone in itself is sufficient punishment either for their stupidity, gullibility,naivety or greed or whatever flaws got them entangled in the first place. Isn't that enough, then the society re victimizes them by making them live through their folly again while those that subject them to such misery are hailed as sharp guys ...

it's a man's world sha and am not complaining

190theclown:


Y'all saying that coogar flew to Nigeria to do his BVN are callous

First BABE has already said that Coogar is living in the UK on a 6month visa which expired since 2011

So him been an IT Contractor is pure Bullocks, who wan hire am wen he nor get visa?

Additionally he cant get a Job except all these night jobs and its really dangerous as if you are caught working without

papers you get deported and the person who hires you pays £10,000 per employee (hired without the complete papers)

So its very risky, Now while i personally believe that Coogar is an overstayer all others made complete sense because

I have seen all his conversations between BABE, Coogar, Kay and another of Coogar's friend and a conclusion has been made

that coogar would pay babe the $4000 he owes her, Hes got 2weeks.

Now my advise for coogar would be work on getting your papers, if you wan fly that 10year route as an overstayer it wont work

because na 4years u don do and UK de change their laws on a daily basis.

Wont talk much tho, Coogar and Babe na still my favourites

I just want peace for all parties and they can go their seperate ways afterall i sabi Babe before she even met coogar

and want the best for the poor girl

Babe3 hit me up, I nor too fine today e be like say Flu don hold me so i de under blanket today make we discuss

Maybe he can get Arif to fix him a Syrian passport and then head for Germany. They are taking everything.

r231 and co.

The moniker, coogar, should be banned for life. It's been established that he is a notorious scammer. Nairaland should have zero tolerance for scammers.

Save your site.

Avalon316:



What potential? Cussing? Spending hours on a faceless forum? What potential?

Oh,I understand. He has the potential ANINI( Nigerians most notorious armed robbery) had.

From what I know about him is that he is very good at rap battles, which requires a good command of the English language.
He is also very manipulative, which means that he is good at psychology.
He is very confident (I am sure not only online or else Babe3 would have ended it sooner, which is a determining factor when it comes to success.

I believe, I am not sure, but I believe that he is someone who under different circumstances would have made it far in life by legal means.

Gamesmart:


The insecure type looking for a successful man and who are attracted to the confidence, swag and wittiness he displays. Thinking it makes him unique and attractive.

Right on. Low self esteem, easily influenced and easily seduced by vanities. Greedy to boot.

Or NL newbies who weren't privy to 'full disclosure' (I mean not getting the full picture of the online persona) at the time. Or they were only after sexxx (but that doesn't explain how they got swindled)

Burntpalace:


Is the fraud squad making him repay the other women he swindled? If not, why not?

they have left him to God abi isn't that how it is said naija style. Not everybody is as bold and courageous as Babe3 to come out and make there business open. Most would rather let it slide and he's broke anyways how he wan take pay back??. Dude doesn't have an address, he's reported to be hanging around in different hotels. 190 was spot on when he said we don't have his full history because of the callumny of lies that he spits too different women it's so hard to sort out the blatant lies from the truths, semi truths, semi partial truth and outright falsehoods .

Mindfulness:

You are absolutely right. This is why I consider a big age difference problematic but that is a different topic.

I will be honest, I made some very stvpid decisions when I was young and at some time in my life I realized that not every young person made such stvpid decisions and I was wondering why. I then discovered that I was a mess and from then on I tried to fix it and I did and my life changed for the better. I can't save everyone from the experience Babe3 or I went through but maybe I can inspire a person or two. If I can't, so be it, I believe that life always gives us the lesson we need.

Its a problem everywhere in the world. A 17yr old is a minor and an 18yr old is an adult. Whats the difference between the 2? few hours

I would be a pedophile for sleeping with a girl born November 21 1997 today but by tomorrow I can sleep with her legally. What has really changed about her in 24hrs? But thats the law.

You made some mistakes, others made different mistakes. Some mistakes were more costly than others. Some had protections/exposure to harm others didnt have as much

A socially leaning teenage girl who watches MTV a lot and has wild older cousins might be more prone to these exposure than another teenager who didnt grow up in such environment

One person smoked weed, one person did aristo, one person followed friends to an out of state party etc. Two people can make the same mistake and still come out with different results in their life

I have friends when we were teenagers experimented with drugs and cultism, Some came out unscathed others "perished" in it

Toby77:


it's the Power or the supposed Power. Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac, and supreme confidence such as the moniker Coogar exudes online is very attractive especially to young ladies because it demonstrates a kind of self mastery and power. It doesn't matter the caustic language, it's all part of the dominance. You have to give it too Coogar though, he spins it well. He can make you believe anything. There are still some here that do genuinely believe he's been set up or ganged up against. That goes to the 'talent' he has. I'm sure if Coogar were to channel his talent into something positive the sky would be the limit. BUt ALAS! we have a tragedy of a person

The insecure, weak type of women feel attracted to him because they find something in him that they lack.
When I went through his post history before the scandal came out, I knew that something is not right about him and I didn't think he was attractive at all. I found him rather off-putting but like I said I have more experience and much more confidence than those young ladies or insecure married women.

The ladies are already reaping what they sow when it eventually dawns on them that they have been played. That alone in itself is sufficient punishment either for their stupidity, gullibility,naivety or greed or whatever flaws got them entangled in the first place. Isn't that enough, then the society re victimizes them by making them live through their folly again while those that subject them to such misery are hailed as sharp guys ...

it's a man's world sha and am not complaining

He reaps the fruits of his behavior as well. I don't commiserate with any of the people involved because I know that painful lessons are the best ones.

Burntpalace:
Right on. Low self esteem, easily influenced and easily seduced by vanities. Greedy to boot.

Or NL newbies who weren't privy to 'full disclosure' at the time. Or they were only after sexxx (but that doesn't explain how they got swindled)

Ileobatojo. Many teenage girls are like this until they get older and learn from experience or just outgrow it

All teenagers think they are supermen/women until realities of life strike

I hope both parties have learnt and can move on from this

raumdeuter:


Its a problem everywhere in the world. A 17yr old is a minor and an 18yr old is an adult. Whats the difference between the 2? few hours

I would be a pedophile for sleeping with a girl born November 21 1997 today but by tomorrow I can sleep with her legally. What has really changed about her in 24hrs? But thats the law.

You made some mistakes, others made different mistakes. Some mistakes were more costly than others. Some had protections/exposure to harm others didnt have as much

A socially leaning teenage girl who watches MTV a lot and has wild older cousins might be more prone to these exposure than another teenager who didnt grow up in such environment

One person smoked weed, one person did aristo, one person followed friends to an out of state party etc. Two people can make the same mistake and still come out with different results in their life

I have friends when we were teenagers experimented with drugs and cultism, Some came out unscathed others "perished" in it

totally true