Henry240:


It is clear enough.

The Proforce ARA or Thunder MRAP currently under-development is better than the Otokar Cobra.

I'm currently staring at the photo of the vehicle and specifications in my laptop, i just can't extract the image.

snydergp1st:


Ok can you also post the level of protection the Proforce Thunder has compared to the Cobra, Nyala or Mamba MRAP's.

Let's settle this debate.

Henry240:


It is clear enough.

The Proforce ARA or Thunder MRAP currently under-development is better than the Otokar Cobra.

I'm currently staring at the photo of the vehicle and specifications in my laptop, i just can't extract the image.

iblawi:
The only thing that matters is that we are always ahead of you.

iblawi:
The only thing that matters is that we are always ahead of you.

agaugust:


Give us technical proof that it is low grade.



Proforce Nigeria produces world class military armoured vehicles comparable to world standards, tested and proven ballistic capabilities....our LAV products are superior to some American LAV of same class, we make better quality....better than even South Africa.

"“The Minister of Industry, Trade and Investment, Dr Olusegun Aganga, has been there; governors have been there and so many eminent people and they realised that the quality of our products vis-à-vis the quality of vehicles from Dubai and from the US are far better."

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/01/nigeria-produces-300-armoured-vehicles-annually/

Xbee007:

Man you really need to work on your English, especially the punctuation aspect. Your write-up bears a lot of similarities with that of a someone who is just learning how to write.

DieVluit:


Actually, your own English and punctuation are crap. Your post should have been written like this:

Man, you really need to work on your English. especially, the punctuating aspect. Your write-up bears a lot of similarities TO that of a someone who is just learn how to write.


Here's a tip: next time focus on real issue and stop waste time on insignificant things. You end up look like a real idiot otherwise.

Xbee007:

Man, you need help!!!

mzilakazi:


When we say Nigerians are intellectually lazy, we mean it and the evidence is in your proforce. So, do you mean that you copy cobra as it is and only change the front screen with square screens because you can't even cut out the same shape of original cobra wind screen. It will prove difficult to your technicians. The square is a lot easier isn't? If you had the skills you would have copied it exactly the way it is, but now because the front will prove difficult for proforce, they had to change it to the simple shape.

Have you even considered that square wind screen will make driving very uncomfortable especially when you will have to look to the sides. The shape will surely have to slung to the sides and that is not negotiable because I study engineering.

Xbee007:
My prayer is with Davido as he is going back to South Africa to perform. I pray he doesn't get robbed again by those idiots. They have turned robbing Nigerians of their wealth into their hubby.

www.nairaland.com/2752640/more-security-davido-he-returns

FighterPilot:


SA has over 100 indigenous companies and less than 5 foreign owned companies.


Stop misleading people. SAAB bought 70% stake from Grintek, a company which existed in SA many years before SAAB could come to the shores.

Rheinmetall and Denel Munitions (RDM) is a joint venture of 51/49%. Even before that Denel was owning the company (NESCHEM) alone until it decided to sell Reinmetall 51% stake of its Potchefstroom branch which is now renamed RDM.

SA had an indigenous company established in 1987 called THALES ADVANCED ENGINEERING which was an electronic security giant in the country

http://www.dataweek.co.za/article.aspX?pklarticleid=4163

http://www.securitysa.com/news.aspX?pklnewsid=20702

African defence systems Pty Ltd is the SA company which the THALES S.A then Thomson-CSF from France consumed by buying its controlling shares.

http://www.epicos.com/EPCompanyProfileWeb/GeneralInformation.aspx?id=17218

Talking about cars is irrelevant because we all know that SA does not have indigenous brand of automotives.

FighterPilot:


Bwahahahah… Do not forget that BH recently thrashed 157 Battalion to the point that 105 went missing and only to return later

However BH captured T-72 with lot and lot of weapons. Don't try to impress us with your weak military.

Xbee007:
Man, you need help!!!

Henry240:


Why don't we all look at the specs ourselves.


www.google.com.ng/search?q=Proforce+ARA+MRAP&btnG=Search


The PDF file is the second result in the link.

agaugust:


It's a big lie, LIST FOR US the so called imaginary 100 defence companies in South Africa, I am sure many of them are security guard companies providing guard services to your crime and murder ridden society.

90% of hi-tech South African defence industry is owned by Europe, your technological independence is has not yet come.

Patchesagain:


1. No, you dont have a military wide datalink
2. No, you dont have military wide intergration of a combat managment system
3. No, you dont have a combat managment system at all.

If you wish to prove otherwise, provide citations.

agaugust:


[size=13pt] LOL....your story is a lie, so you are wasting your time grin grin

"The Nigerian Army has described as untrue media reports that 105 soldiers were missing after deadly attack by the Boko Haram insurgents."


http://dailypost.ng/2015/11/20/105-soldiers-not-missing-in-borno-army-spokesman/

SANDF runs when they hear the word...S..E..L..E..K..A [/size]

agaugust:


[size=13pt] LOL....your story is a lie, so you are wasting your time on tales by moonlight

"The Nigerian Army has described as untrue media reports that 105 soldiers were missing after deadly attack by the Boko Haram insurgents."


http://dailypost.ng/2015/11/20/105-soldiers-not-missing-in-borno-army-spokesman/

SANDF runs when they hear the word...S..E..L..E..K..A [/size]

agaugust:


Military wide datalink is NOT compulsory for every country, how many countries in the world have it, and how many have won a war with it?

SANDF has military wide datalink and Chaka C2 yet your army and air force combined have failed to secure your fatherland's borders from invading arms smugglers from Zimbabwe, foreign assassins from Rwanda, Rhino poachers from Mozambique..... so tell us what your army has achieved with tactical military-wide datalink and Chaka C2 combat management systems since all these years of SANDF failure on homeland sail in simple operations against weak targets
.

Patchesagain:


1. Airforce is intergrated into the system as is the Army and Navy - all platforms are intergrated

2. That picture is highly impressive, it shows a mobile Ratel command post that has been intergrated - can you show us such a thing in your army?

mzilakazi:


I was actually about to ask about that. Why is Nigeria's defence industry so backward by still using old outdated primitive snail pace technology of manufacturing armoured vehicles? The world has moved so fast.

Patchesagain:


Lol

The usual propaganda from your military

snydergp1st:


All I see is your soldiers entering Miss Abuja beauty contest.

agaugust:


Snail pace? Nigerian Proforce produces 40 vehicles per month in that factory, how much does does one South African company produce monthly?

Envy is eating you up as we will soon overtake you like we did with GDP.

Meanwhile, show us South African armoured vehicle factory where you people say robots are working for you like Japan, show photo proofs !
.

Patchesagain:


[size=13pt] LOL Propaganda

Nigerian miliatary runs when they hear the words...B..O..K..O....H..A..R..A..M [/size]

Patchesagain:


how are Barlows tactics the exact opposit of AMANI?

Tell us how.

Why cant you Nigerians tell us how? We keep asking but you keep refusing to answer.

mzilakazi:


When we say Nigerians are intellectually lazy, we mean it and the evidence is in your proforce and your own words. So, do you mean that you take cobra as it is and only change the front screen to a square because you can't even cut out the same shape of original cobra wind screen. It will prove difficult to your technicians. The square is a lot easier isn't? If you had the skills you would have copied it exactly the way it is, but now because the front will prove difficult for proforce, they had to change it to simple shape.

Have you even considered that square wind screen will make driving very uncomfortable especially when you will have to look to the sides. The shape will surely have to slung to the sides and that is not negotiable because I study engineering.

DieVluit:


Exactly.

Wiped away value from your already valueless currency.

End of story.