EfemenaXY:


So people with jobs don't scam?

Are you saying scamming and crimes are the exclusive preserve of the unemployed and / or unskilled worker?

dyydxx:


obviously you don't know Coogar or his antics but I would let you in on something. All the genuine info about Coogar and his 'black sheep' antics actually came from his own mother in Lagos. She was the one that exposed all the truths known about him. How he went to OAU and not the Manchester University that he claims, how he went to the UK because he couldn't secure a job after school on a 6 months visiting visa yet he claims he has a red passport. You can see the lies. The mom sef is tired and has been begging him to come home but Coogar is set on the path of destruction. He would never listen and amend his ways and he is far too gone in now. His parents are aware of his antics they do get reports frrom time to time and are fed up.

So EFE, You are the one on assumptions, these are the facts

Gamesmart:


OK, go to Birmingham Police Station and report a coogar who is on Nairaland that you heard pays Arif to provide card he tries to see if this works.

EfemenaXY:


No?



Iron clad based on what? Your say so?



That's a subjective statement open to interpretation. Anyone can come on here and claim to "know" him. Unless of course, you've got his family / parents backing you up on your claim?

dyydxx:


obviously you don't know Coogar or his antics but I would let you in on something. All the genuine info about Coogar and his 'black sheep' antics actually came from his own mother in Lagos. She was the one that exposed all the truths known about him. How he went to OAU and not the Manchester University that he claims, how he went to the UK because he couldn't secure a job after school on a 6 months visiting visa yet he claims he has a red passport. You can see the lies. The mom sef is tired and has been begging him to come home but Coogar is set on the path of destruction. He would never listen and amend his ways and he is far too gone in now. His parents are aware of his antics they do get reports frrom time to time and are fed up.

So EFE, You are the one on assumptions, these are the facts

IlekeHD:


He has turned to my coogar because I asked you guys to take both coogar/babe3 to the proper court?

My people, see systematic bullying? Is it me that you want to bully? Dem never born you well.

cc Seun. Why are your mods protecting credit card fraudsters on NL?

airmark:

That's a red flag there. With time you will tell us what you know about coogar . [size=17pt]An innocent person[/size] would n't have seen that sentence as bully. Holes keep showing in this convo.

IlekeHD:


Stop protecting fraudsters on NL. Gbam!

airmark:


Someone who initially scolded us that we have judged coogar , now saying we are protecting the fraudster. What a night !!!

IlekeHD:



Is it NL that gets to determine who is guilty/innocent or a LEGAL court?

If one believes he/she is innocent, then they shouldn't fear going to the court to settle this issue.

Why is everyone fretting because I asked una to take this to court. You guys said you have, so why not post that evidence too?

IlekeHD:


How many fraud cases on NL in the past 6 years? Every year the same ish...... yet none of them have been taken to court.

Why is that? How do these people obtain information? By going through our emails, by collecting data on us [on what we post]?

What are you guys doing to protect US from fraudsters/ alleged fraudsters? You come on NL to "oust" then, yet you don't report them. Of what essence is that? Are you a lawyer/judge/jury? Is there a jail center on NL?

NL has turned to the scammers hotspot. I doubt NL some mods aren't in on it.

kramfonos:


Aren't you the same troll in the Politics Section who's infamous for instigating tribal e-wars on every thread even when a thread has no tribal leaning?

Now you are here to divide. You cause controversies everywhere leaving confusion in your wake. Your antics are basically to raise doubts. More like seeking a reprieve for the accused. Discerning minds know your mission already.

kramfonos:

Aren't you the same troll in the Politics Section who's infamous for instigating tribal e-wars even on every thread even when the thread has no tribal leaning?
Now you are here to divide. You cause controversies everywhere leaving confusion in your wake. Your antics are basically to raise doubts. More like seeking a reprieve for the accused. Discerning minds know your mission already.

IlekeHD:


How many fraud cases on NL in the past 6 years? Every year the same ish...... yet none of them have been taken to court.

Why is that? How do these people obtain information? By going through our emails, by collecting data on us [on what we post]?

What are you guys doing to protect US from fraudsters/ alleged fraudsters? You come on NL to "oust" then, yet you don't report them. Of what essence is that? Are you a lawyer/judge/jury? Is there a jail center on NL?

NL has turned to the scammers hotspot. I doubt NL some mods aren't in on it.

Gamesmart:


It is not just this case. He has a long history. That is why Sauron disappeared.

Gamesmart:
Someone was finally bold enough to come forward and admit I was banged and financially milked. And stood up to the threat of her nudes exposed. Others just left NL.

airmark:

Open another thread on this and tag me and other people, then we will rub minds together so that we will find lasting solution to it as it bothers you. As regards this case coogar paying babe3 back her tuition fee should n't hurt you. He wont collect the money from you to pay.

EfemenaXY:
If I were a prosecutor in court, I'd have a field day with this sentence of yours:



A long history of what?

Who is Sauron? What solid proof have you got that Sauron is / was Coogar? (Writing styles / tone of lanuage, etc don't cut it. Those are purely circumstantial evidence not based on facts). Have you got any tangible proof say for example, the Internet Protocol address(es) used by both monikers. Do they match? If not, why not?



1. They were in a long term relationship. It ended badly. One party was aggrieved. What proof have you got that this isn't a clear-cut case of a slighted partner wanting to get back at an ex? Mind you, the aggrieved party already open admitted on here that she indulged in self-harming activities. Why? And more importantly, what does that say about her emotional health?

2. If the aggrieved party was indeed being blackmailed by the accused, why did it take eight ( 8 ) months to come forward? Why the lapse? And most importantly, what happened during that time frame? Where they in communication then?

3. Explain the phrase "financially milked". Do you mean defrauded? Did the accused physically / forcefully take money from her? Was she threatened at knife point? Or was this given to him under different circumstances? If yes, how so?

raumdeuter:
Airmark, gamesmart, toby77. I think I see the sense in some of the things IlekeHD is saying that the court would be the best place to resolve this

Why. The current plan is that coogar pays Babe and the case dies.

In the course of these exposition we have found out that while some credit card transactions were charged back, Some went through into buying Chanel shades, Louis Vuiton purses, Zara, expensive materials, That means there is a Mr John Doe somewhere in USA whose credit has been ruined or whose retirement account has been cleaned out

If we are really interested in justice for all parties involved, then Who gets justice for that Mr John Doe? or should he take the loss because he isnt on NL and has no NL mediator to collect his own stolen money?

Gamesmart:


[size=14pt]All these are in Court.
[/size]

Even in court, Gaddafi could have been found not guilty for all crimes. That does not mean we all don't know what type of person he is.

raumdeuter:
Airmark, gamesmart, toby77. I think I see the sense in some of the things IlekeHD is saying that the court would be the best place to resolve this

Why. The current plan is that coogar pays Babe and the case dies.

In the course of these exposition we have found out that while some credit card transactions were charged back, Some went through into buying Chanel shades, Louis Vuiton purses, Zara, expensive materials, That means there is a Mr John Doe somewhere in USA whose credit has been ruined or whose retirement account has been cleaned out

If we are really interested in justice for all parties involved, then Who gets justice for that Mr John Doe? or should he take the loss because he isnt on NL and has no NL mediator to collect his own stolen money?

raumdeuter:
Airmark, gamesmart, toby77. I think I see the sense in some of the things IlekeHD is saying that the court would be the best place to resolve this

Why. The current plan is that coogar pays Babe and the case dies.

[size=16pt]In the course of these exposition we have found out that while some credit card transactions were charged back, Some went through into buying Chanel shades, Louis Vuiton purses, Zara, expensive materials, That means there is a Mr John Doe somewhere in USA whose credit has been ruined or whose retirement account has been cleaned out
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If we are really interested in justice for all parties involved, then Who gets justice for that Mr John Doe? or should he take the loss because he isnt on NL and has no NL mediator to collect his own stolen money?

IlekeHD:


From what I can deduced, you guys had the information on coogar long before November, yet you let him walk around the site unscatthed. Until things fell out with his doubleganger, you guys did nothing. Yet you want us to believe that you're protecting NL from scammers?

Okay. Kontinu!

raumdeuter:
Airmark, gamesmart, toby77. I think I see the sense in some of the things IlekeHD is saying that the court would be the best place to resolve this
Why. The current plan is that coogar pays Babe and the case dies.
In the course of these exposition we have found out that while some credit card transactions were charged back, Some went through into buying Chanel shades, Louis Vuiton purses, Zara, expensive materials, That means there is a Mr John Doe somewhere in USA whose credit has been ruined or whose retirement account has been cleaned out
If we are really interested in justice for all parties involved, then Who gets justice for that Mr John Doe? or should he take the loss because he isnt on NL and has no NL mediator to collect his own stolen money?

Toby77:


Apples and Oranges; Case by case. Not all cases are the same but as regards to this Coogar story, can you please explain why a supposed Highly skilled Coogar would request his undergraduate girlfriend to Western Union $50 to Arif in India? Please help me understand cos am coming up blanks. This is a supposed highly skilled worker that can get a notoriously difficult non eu work visa plus good pay probably in thousands of pounds per month yet a measly $50, he's asking his unemployed girlfriend to send

EfemenaXY:


That's not entirely true.

In some sectors (private sectors to be precise), employers actively source out potential employees who are GOOD at what they do. It matters not to these employers if you have a visa or not as they're prepared to get a work visa for you. Only thing is, the visa lasts for as long as you're in their employment.

http://www.visabureau.com/uk/employer-sponsorship.aspx

Mind you, I'm referring to highly skilled workers.

Gamesmart:


This is an example of someone who knows what has really been going on.

airmark:


You deduced wrongly, not surprised though.

EfemenaXY:


Please don't take what I wrote out of context. I never claimed Coogar is a highly skilled worker. What I said was not having a visa doesn't constrain one from seeking and gaining employment in the UK within the private sector, especially such a person is highly skilled. So that statement wasn't made to ascertain Coogar's skills, but to nullify the claim that being a non-EU migrant in the UK automatically precludes him from gaining employment in the UK. Kindly re-read my quote below.



Re:Your analogy of apples and oranges doesn't cut it. A crime is a crime irrespective of the "kind" of crime it is and is punishable under the law. That's why there are rules in the first place - to be adhered to by everyone. Nobody is above the law.

As per asking his girlfriend to send over, in your words, "A miserly $50", what makes you think he couldn't afford it but probably didn't want to? The rest of your statement is emotion laden and a repeat of the first / opening lines.

EfemenaXY:


Then he too is an accomplice for aiding and abetting a crime - and should rightly go down for it, in the interest of public safety.