dyydxx:


obviously you don't know Coogar or his antics but I would let you in on something.

dyydxx:
All the genuine info about Coogar and his 'black sheep' antics actually came from his own mother in Lagos.

dyydxx:
She was the one that exposed all the truths known about him. How he went to OAU and not the Manchester University that he claims,

dyydxx:
how he went to the UK because he couldn't secure a job after school on a 6 months visiting visa yet he claims he has a red passport.

dyydxx:
You can see the lies.

dyydxx:
The mom sef is tired and has been begging him to come home but Coogar is set on the path of destruction.

dyydxx:
He would never listen and amend his ways and he is far too gone in now.

dyydxx:
His parents are aware of his antics they do get reports frrom time to time and are fed up.

dyydxx:
So EFE, You are the one on assumptions, these are the facts

EfemenaXY:


Then he too is an accomplice for aiding and abetting a crime - and should rightly go down for it, in the interest of public safety.

IlekeHD:


I think it's quite needed.

1. Why attempt to take money from coogar on NL when the right officials could have forced him to pay babe back, if it's really her money.

I'm going to end this conversation here because 1) I believe NL didn't get the full story 2) Both culprits sound like scammers 3) I believe $4K is blackmail money 4) E be like say scammers plenty for NL 5) NL is protecting scammers 6) There is no case pending in court. NL has officialized itself as the judge and jury based on the foundation of revenge 7) NL is being run over by scammers, alleged fraudsters, and cabals NL has gone to the dogs.


Oluwaseun Osewa, I know how competitive ICT sector can be. Many won't understand how hard you worked to get NL on the international stage. Do not let your hard work go to waste. Linda Ikeji has protected her blog, I think it's time for you to do the same. There is competition in information technology, what are you doing to protect your position. Many of these mods don't understand ICT, some may even be gala sellers or mechanics, don't let them destroy your pride [NL].

Do you want the world to synonymize NL with "fraudsters, gangs, cults" and what not? Yoruba ronu! Seun ronu!

May eledumare/ Oduduwa continue to protect us even when we cannot protect ourselves. My trust in anything Nigeria/money/donations has completely dissolved into thin air.

Please have a great day.

IlekeHD:
You brought the heat on coogar. You brought the heat on Babe3.

Now it's time to bring the heat on this so called moderators.

Make una listen well. You can go through my email, gather information from my posts, connive behind closed doors, but should I get scammed on this site, I will drag NL to places it never thought it would go.

cc Seun.

So you better start an incorruptible legal team or something. The ones wey dey dance about this thread abusing me like say na me born dem, are enabling scammers [and are probably scammers themselves].

IlekeHD:


If you can post other evidence, why can't you and the others post the evidence that the case has been taken the court?

I say una well done. Kontinu. No be today we know scammers plenty for both downstairs and upstairs.

E fe fi wa jeun! Oduduwa o ni je!

Gamesmart:


How is he an accomplice?

Gamesmart:


This is an example of someone who knows what has really been going on.

EfemenaXY:


Based on the bolded:



I take it that phrase "Knows what has really been going on" is referencing knowledge of the accused's "fraudulent" activities? He was privy to crime(s) being committed but yet kept schtum? Thereby exposing the general public to potential danger?

EfemenaXY:


No, I obviously don't - and that's why it would be foolhardy of me to judge, condemn, and crucify someone purely on hearsay.

I know him and his Mom


Did she categorically tell you her son is a criminal? Or embroiled in criminal activity?
Yes



That doesn't make him a criminal.

makes him a liar, which means your client is untrustworthy since you are now his NL attorney



Still doesn't make him a criminal.

again makes him a liar, which means your client is untrustworthy since you are now his NL attorney





And that makes him a criminal?

makes him an illegal immigrant under UK laws



The former half of your sentence doesn't prove a thing. Neither does the latter, without substantive, water-tight proof.

It doesn't prove anything because I didn't divulge all but am kind of suspecting you were sent by Coogar to know how I get all these info



Doesn't prove a thing.



Reports of what? From whom? People he had duped that tried mediation



I've just broken down your paragraphs to the barest, minimalist statements and none of them make a solid case against him.

Nihilist:


Is there any need to take it that far?

IlekeHD:
E wo gbogbo won. Awon ole. See all of them.

Una kontinu. Keep aiding criminals on NL. E ro pe awa o moh?

May Sango thunderfire the next ediot that quotes me with nonsense. Between coogar/babe3/nl mods on this thread, I wan know who be innocent. Trying to bully with nonsense. Una day in court dey wait.

Goodnight. Odaaro.

airmark:




By the time you are called to interprete your statement below, you will explain why you personified ''e fe fi wa jeun ni" (y'all want to collect money from us to enjoy) , since no one has asked you to refund any money, it will be very interesting to know the US in the statement. Unscrupulous people everywhere.

Nihilist:

Is there any need to take it that far?

EfemenaXY:
If I were a prosecutor in court, I'd have a field day with this sentence of yours:
A long history of what?
Who is Sauron? What solid proof have you got that Sauron is / was Coogar? (Writing styles / tone of lanuage, etc don't cut it. Those are purely circumstantial evidence not based on facts). Have you got any tangible proof say for example, the Internet Protocol address(es) used by both monikers. Do they match? If not, why not?

dyydxx:


Inshort Coogar shouldn't use you in court, you would probably get him Jailed. You are not a very competent attorney

elampiro:


I see some flaws in your writing but I will only respond to only the bold part above.

The authority cannot force him to pay back to Babe3.

If Babe3 wants her money though a judicial process, she can sue in civil court. But this case cannot be treated as a civil case once it gets reported to let's say EFCC (in Nigeria) or even the police. It's a criminal case. In criminal case, it's not about refund or payback but about punishment. Jail term and may be forfeiting of assets.

Once reported, the case gets investigated by the authorities. An interrogating officer is put on the case. This idea that they only go there to report and show the evidence they got makes me to laugh. The police will extract the evidence themselves, all possible evidence even the ones you are hiding from them. I can bet you that even messages already deleted will be recovered by the police forensic unit. This is not a traffic offense where they book someone and it's just a light case.

There was a man who was invited to EFCC for a case, when he returned after about a week, he told us in the office then in 2007 that EFCC took him to one room where they have this reader. They shower him his IP of the devices he was using and the previous ones he had used, they showed him all his text messages even the ones already deleted years before. They checked and checked and even scrutinized his online posts. Eventually they freed him. If they had this in Nigeria in 2007, imagine what they had now, especially in Europe and America.

During investigation, the police can decide to also take Babe3 into detection. They might consider bail for them, but in America I think they hardly grant bail for CC fraud. Or they make it very hard to meet the ball terms.

At the end the police will charge the case to court after gathering statements, evidences and possible witnesses who can attest they were also victims. The Police decides who to charge and what to charge. How many counts against each accused. They can say they find no case against Babe3 and that's the end. Her case can become light if she is the one reporting to Police instead of the police bursting them.

[size=15pt]The things Police will be looking at whether to change Babe3 or not are some of the arguments posted here. Was she trying to recover her school fees from Coogar? Her attempt to use credit cards, did it span across several months? Did she attempt to use credit cards before the school fees Saha? Was she used? Did she also fall victim of scam? Or she willingly participated in crime? The court will again decide whether to grant bail, the conditions or whether to detain the accused in prison as the trial goes on.
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Let's not forget too, there is a certain Arif who will also be arrested and the information and evidences extracted from him will go along way.

After the charge is prepared the case is handed over to a prosecutor who is experienced, and possibly a lawyer in the police force. He presents the case to the magistrate, he calls his witnesses if any and provides his evidence after ensuring they are qualified to be admitted. The police will have to provide one of the victims/owners of the credit cards for the case to really be weighty.

The accused will have a chance to defend themselves eventually. But court is not a place you talk like it's a market.

One thing about cases is that if you are innocent you have nothing to fear. Although innocent people still go to jail. At the end, among those charged, the magistrates decides who goes home and who doesn't return home and how long he's going to stay away from the comfort of his home.

It's not a matter of "you pay me my money" once it's reported to authorities. I do not wish for anyone to go spend dozen of years in jail, I would rather the person change. I know it's painful for those credit cards owners who lost funds. Imagine someone saving money for years from handwork and salary, then he goes to sleep and overnight his years of savings from handwork is wiped out.

CrazyMan:

He made a very good point...yes there's need to go that far.

Ileke-idi made a reasonable suggestion. If babe3 feels she has been scammed, and doesn't want other girls to fall victim, it would be wise for her to report the case to the appropriate authorities.

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I really don't get the purpose of this thread I've been following for days now. According to the victim (babe3's) posts, she was duped of her tuition fees by coogar, and she wants justice as well as warn Nairaland girls who have a soft spot for him about his fraudulent activities.

It was also stated that you have enough evidence to put the accused behind bars for a long time.

So what's with the delay and unnecessary drama?

[size=15pt]If he is what you say he is (a credit card thief and a scammer), and you don't want other girls to fall victim of his nefarious activities, kindly report the case to the appropriate authorities.
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Stop telling us how you've compiled a trailer load of evidence and nothing to show for it.

Those working with you (jaybee3 and co) should see to that.

I've been on Nairaland for over 9years and I'm tired of seeing this kind of story over and over again.

Someone gets duped, he/she cries out, Nairalanders troop out in mass to sympathize with the victim, some take the victims side, some take the accused side. Some people get famous on the thread as a result of their writing skills. At the end of the day, the thread having outlived its purposed gets abandoned, the victim is left to carry her his/her cross alone.

My advice to you (babe3) is that if you truly want justice like you stated, then do it the right way.

Get a lawyer, sue him for whatever charges you have compiled and tell us the Jury's verdict.



My dear he's not Sauron just leave him. This doesn't even need to be debated upon. Sauron was here in Nigeria claiming to be in the uk while his lover (user name withheld) was overseas. Although there are much similarities between both cases (Sauron and Coogar) but its definitely not him.

Toby77:


she's part of those to cough up the $4k abi

TV01:
In the UK we have due process, we have the rule of law. If there was any evidence implicating the accused, it should have been handed to the authorities and the law should have been allowed to run it’s course.

Instead, a kangaroo court – with a panel of at best, shady characters - was convened and the accused was summarily arraigned before it - "for our viewing pleasure".

Point 1 –if indeed any of the allegations are true and there is evidence to prove it, evidence which you have seen or handled, you are all now accomplices to a crime.

Your court has zero jurisdiction and even less credibility. The moniker is not even banned from NL? And a purported hardened criminal is still free to scour for prey and make more innocents victims of his nefarious activities – on and offline

Point 2 – what of all the other victims whose cards and credit were compromised, who gets justice for them?

This was never motivated by a desire for justice – that much is clear. Indeed, it was not even in the least bit transparent. Cutting deals off-line and then returning here to gloat about your great triumph. Why was R321 “expecting cougar to post his mugshot”? Because it is evident that in your secret talks the accused threatened to do so - and probably other dirt.

All the bloviate about hating crime, detesting fraudsters and the like was just that, a crock. This was about puny men being spun because they wanted a day of glory, or a total ruse to let a criminal off the hook. What a pathetic shame; on the pack of you, and on NL, and your country.
Like I said, men with fannies. If you like quote me and get yours.

I was going to leave this unposted as I didn’t want to be sullied by the corruption so evident here, but the sheer class of IlekeHD and the way you have cowardly tried to smear her means I am compelled to speak out. Airmark ko, Skidmark ni.

IlekeHD, please, how would you like to proceed? And is there anybody else not cowed by these losers and willing to demonstrate that there is at least a seed of goodness in Nigerians?


TV

TV01:
In the UK we have due process, we have the rule of law. If there was any evidence implicating the accused, it should have been handed to the authorities and the law should have been allowed to run it’s course.

Instead, a kangaroo court – with a panel of at best, shady characters - was convened and the accused was summarily arraigned before it.

Point 1 –if indeed any of the allegations are true and there is evidence to prove it, evidence which you have seen or handled, you are all now accomplices to a crime.

Your court has zero jurisdiction and even less credibility. The moniker is not even banned from NL? And a purported hardened criminal is still free to scour for prey and make more innocents victims of his nefarious activities – on and offline

Point 2 – what of all the other victims whose cards and credit were compromised, who gets justice for them?

This was never motivated by a desire for justice – that much is clear. Indeed, it was not even in the least bit transparent. Cutting deals off-line and then returning here to gloat about your great triumph. Why was R321 “expecting cougar to post his mugshot”? Because it is evident that in your secret talks the accused threatened to do so - and probably other dirt..

All the bloviate about hating crime, detesting fraudsters and the like was just that, a crock. This was about puny men being spun because they wanted a day of glory, or a total ruse to let a criminal off the hook. What a pathetic shame; on the pack of you, and on NL, and your country.
Like I said, men with fannies. If you like quote me and get yours.

I was going to leave this unposted as I didn’t want to be sullied by the corruption so evident here, but the sheer class of IlekeHD and the way you have cowardly tried to smear her means I am compelled to speak out. Airmark ko, Skidmark ni.

IlekeHD, please, how would you like to proceed? And is there anybody else not cowed by these losers and willing to demonstrate that there is at least a seed of goodness in Nigerians?


TV

Toby77:


He has reported. Read the link before making blanket statements. He reported and urged others to report, so I don't get all these talks of shielding the case

https://www.nairaland.com/2747959/nairaland-fraudster-exposed-pt-2

IlekeHD:
Take all these points to the court. Thank you. When the time comes, una wey get evidence will be asked to present it. I'm not the judge, don't try to convince me.

TV01:

I'm not trtying to convnce you, on the contrary, you've convinced me to speak out. I'm not party to what transpired here and was only alerted by one of them visiting the family section.
I am not one of the self-arrogated judges, or party to anything that has been said or done, I want the law to run it's proper course, as I sensed you do - hence my question. I normally wouldn't bother, but I didn't like the cowardly attempt to hound you out of here.
TV

EfemenaXY:


Don't get sentimental on me.

Being a liar doesn't automatically translate into one being a criminal that should be punished. And no, I never claimed to be an attorney but I do find this entire circus stinks to the high heavens of hypocrisy. If the real intent is to fight this out for the good and safety of the general public, then there should be no holds bared in bring all parties involved to face the long arms of the law. There shouldn't be favouritism here.

Gamesmart:


The people that coordinated the negotiations were coogar's friends.

It was no court. It was a sort this out exercise, which the complainant agreed to basically because she saw it as her only way of getting her school fees back. Paying back what was owed seem to have been seen as an achievement and truce by some of the moderators as the complainant has agreed with coogar's friends to withdraw her complaints.

Unless some other victims come out now, there is no complainant they can assist now.

Is he a scammer? Hell Yes! It appears a psychopathic one as well or someone so deep into in and dependent on it, he has no choice than to be defiant.

There is enough principles to ban his moniker but I doubt there is any evidence if there is no complainant that provided it is withdrawing it. Maybe they are hoping he would play a Sauron in shame and disappear.

If you or IlekeHD wants to report him to the Old Bill, by all means do.

EfemenaXY:


A link hardly constitutes as proof.

Where is the solid proof? Aren't there any hardcopy documents to support this?

EfemenaXY:


Then if that be the case, why wasn't this settled offline?

Why the circus of dragging him through the mud to be drawn, quartered, eviscerated, and then hung medieval style, only for you lot to turn around and say "It was never a court case"? Why the need to open countless threads running into hundreds of pages that achieved nothing but a slandering show aimed at entertainment and a poor disguise for those with private beefs to gloat under the pretext of "seeking justice and preventing a scammer from scamming innocent people online"?

Toby77:


it's anonymous ma besides he's surely not compelled to show you any solid proof

Gamesmart:

I guess she needed to drag him through the mud for him to even take her seriously. Otherwise he would have dismissed her like the other girls before her that he has exploited.
She said it that she knew his reputation on NL was very valuable to him. It was part of his mechanism of survival.
And I correct you that it is not a 'slandering show'. It was an 'exposure show'.
This is not some respectable IT contractor we are dragging his moniker through the mud. This is a lying scammer who put up a shameful show on NL in his attempt to cover up his lies.

EfemenaXY:


Anonymous = questionable "truth" claims = Probably a false claim = thread has no basis and was created to run another entertainment show.

This is just tacky and shameful.

EfemenaXY:


Have you considered the implications for you lot if he decides not to pay up?

Come to think of it, maybe he should refuse to do so. That way, you all will have no other choice but to do things the right way (i.e via the courts) and then maybe, just maybe, there'll be some semblance of justice for the real victims of this saga - the real owners of the stolen credit cards.

Abeg I'm done here.

Goodnight.

IlekeHD:
My people make una beware o

If you're scammed on NL. You're on your own.

No mods or admin will protect you. Forget all the "outsting" and worry about the "back door guruguru collabo of money gathering". Protect yourself.

Only the mods can determine who is innocent/guilty as if they're God. Don't report your crime to NL, go offline and find a police station.

wonlasewonimi:


Toyin tomato how much is your school fees...