AugustineAgain:


Show me where UN laws of war says it's babaric to kill an enemy with a military Bayonet knife. In war of the Bible days don't they use swords to cut off the head of an enemy in war?

SANDF killed no Seleka until you show us proof, all we see are 15 dead SANDF elite troops, so only SANDF troops died in Bangui.

SANDF cannot stoop to your level of cannibalism and barbarism by posting grisly pictures of the bartered enemy on the net. We conduct ourselves in a manner that is professional and we do not derive our joy from humiliating the enemy. SANDF has never taken pictures of dead enemy and posted it on the net to prove its might throughout its history. We have killed many enemies in engagement from the Bush war to Congo insurgency. It is a prosecutable offence to take pictures of the dead enermy in SANDF. We refuse to associate ourselves with the high level of backwardness exhibited by Nigeria's armed forces of brandishing cut-off heads of enemies.

AugustineAgain:


Go ask UN
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UN has never bought any of your vehicles.

agaugust:


Show us PROOF that ALL South African military platforms are integrated on this tactical datalink.

[s]Stop lying to us, same way you guys said SAN has Super Lynx ASW helicopters armed with sonar and torpedoes, only for us to discover later that you have only search and rescue Super Lynx with ZERO sonar or torpedoes...liars !
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Every army in this world communicates perfectly without military-wide datalink, they do not have to use exactly the same methods as SANDF.

Can you show us airborne battlefield command and control capability in South African military ?
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1. We have shown you proof many times
2. Who says we are lying?
3. Data-link is what modern armies use, it changes the nature of warfare completely - info-centric warfare
4. Yes we do

Stop trying to cover up for your failures and your militarys lack of proper equipment

agaugust:


[s]Snail pace? Nigerian Proforce produces 40 vehicles per month in that factory, how much does does one South African company produce monthly?

Envy is eating you up as we will soon overtake you like we did with GDP.

Meanwhile, show us South African armoured vehicle factory where you people say robots are working for you like Japan, show photo proofs ![/s]
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Show us a Nigerian vehicle that is worth caring about and we will start discussing it with you

agaugust:


Lol, what makes the opposing side's story not a propaganda?

Because its not the opposing side who said those men were missing

ITS YOUR SIDE

agaugust:


[s]AMANI tactics is a 1970s archaic battle space setting common to SANDF, old doctrine you have failed to modernize, your training is outdated, reason why Cuba and Russia are now training you dummies

AMANI order of battle and field formation is like a tennis match, two players line up like dummies on opposite side of a net, start shooting balls into each others side of the dividing net hoping to score points.

See Nigerian army training and show me how SANDF can match this level ![/s]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDkybigIskw
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So you are saying that you will never have to attack an enemy position where they will stand an fight?

How were these tactics so successfull in Angola and why wont they work now?

Augutus, you need to come down to reality: Russians/Cubans are not training us in tactics and doctrine - it is NIGERIAN SOLDIERS being trained by South Africans and Russians in tactics and doctrine, you are the dummies you clown!

Stop posting tactical small unit training - and yes we can match your level, and much more advanced!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNo6axEV-6U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHgmNxWIBI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkGDBczV_Tg

agaugust:


South African armoured vehicles are crap too, you sell products that have better rivals from China, USA and Europe.

citations that they are crap

agaugust:


South Africa actually produces glorified civilian type Jeeps for your army.

BTWN, Toyota SUV is listed as part of SANDF fighting vehicles

See full photos of Nigerian made armoured vehicles http://www.proforcedefence.com/companyprofile.pdf
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Land Cruiser is used for border controll - not combat

You use soft-skinned vehicals for combat!!

agaugust:


All I see is Boko Haram crushed by Nigerian army the mighty ! Your SANDF has not shown us one single Seleka they killed
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Seleka told us about the 400 they lost

AugustineAgain:


Every vehicle starts with prototype, Nyala or Mamba MRAP all began with prototype.

The Nigerian MRAP has passed computer image stage, it's under construction, see it behind our army engineers on inspection tour of Proforce, proudly made in Nigeria ARA MRAP....we will soon overtake South Africa in armoured vehicle production and sales like we did with GDP !

All Proforce products meet international standards, tested and confirmed !
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How can they be tested and confirmed if all you have is computer model?

Henry240:


Hypothetical what?

hypothetical vehicles

AugustineAgain:


Mbombe is more like an IFV than LAV or MRAP.

Compare things of same class, or how do you compare Reva MRAP and Big Foot MRAP ? Any sense in that?

Mbombe is an MRAP or IFV - we produce products with multiple uses


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-estuN_hZY

AugustineAgain:


[s]Show me where UN laws of war says it's babaric to kill an enemy with a military Bayonet knife. In war of the Bible days don't they use swords to cut off the head of an enemy in war?

SANDF killed no Seleka until you show us proof, all we see are 15 dead SANDF elite troops, so only SANDF troops died in Bangui.[/s]

It is illegal to kill prisoners.

Rebels confirm we killed over 400

AugustineAgain:


Show me where UN laws of war says it's babaric to kill an enemy with a military Bayonet knife. In war of the Bible days don't they use swords to cut off the head of an enemy in war?

SANDF killed no Seleka until you show us proof, all we see are 15 dead SANDF elite troops, so only SANDF troops died in Bangui.

The use of knife bayonet to cut off the heads of the captured enermy or so called prisoner of war is in contravention with the Roman statutes and constitutes a war crime.

AugustineAgain:


Prove it
.

Tell me this is media bias and boko boy sympathizers again
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/world/africa/abuses-nigeria-military-boko-haram-war-report.html?_r=0&referer=http://www.google.nl/search?q=Nigerian+military+accused+of+human+rights+abuses&client=ms-opera-mini&channel=new&gws_rd=cr&ei=suZOVvnyCsm_aKWDsJgH

agaugust:


You don't know what a computer image PROTOTYPE is ? The vehicle is still under-development, the computer image is just to market it.

Truly you are intellectually backward as we say

That is not even s prototype, it is s Photoshop.

Patchesagain:

hypothetical vehicles

Do you even know what hypothetical means?
-The BOA MRAP is in production
- The ARA MRAP is also in production
- The militarized Hilux gun truck is also in production
* The only vehicle that hasn't been seen yet is the Viper Special forces vehicle

Patchesagain:

It is illegal to kill prisoners.
Rebels confirm we killed over 400

Not according to the UN, BBC, AFP, Reuters, Aljazeera, TVC.
Your Special forces got roundly defeated in the CAR.

Patchesagain:


Land Cruiser is used for border controll - not combat

You use soft-skinned vehicals for combat!!

Your Special forces deployed lots and lots of Soft-Skins in the CAR for active combat.

Henry240:


Do you even know what hypothetical means?

-The BOA MRAP is in production

- The ARA MRAP is also in production

- The militarized Hilux gun truck is also in production

* The only vehicle that hasn't been seen yet is the Viper Special forces vehicle

BOA is not Nigerian

Ara is in production? le citation please

Militrarized hilux? why do i care about such a peasant thing? ISIS build them too!

Henry240:


Not according to the UN, BBC, AFP, Reuters, Aljazeera, TVC.

Your Special forces got roundly defeated in the CAR.

Actually, yes - according to those sources which have villified nigeria.

How did we get defeated? Which objectives did we fail to meet? Also, how does that invalidate the over 400 casualties suffered by Seleka?

Henry240:


Your Special forces deployed lots and lots of Soft-Skins in the CAR for active combat.

C.A.R was not intended to be a combat deployment

Patchesagain:


BOA is not Nigerian

Ara is in production? le citation please

Militrarized hilux? why do i care about such a peasant thing? ISIS build them too!

- yes it is Nigerian, It is license built. If the BOA is not Nigerian, then the Badger is not South-African.

- The Ara is currently under-development.

- Your Special forces used them extensively in the CAR.

Patchesagain:


Actually, yes - according to those sources which have villified nigeria.

How did we get defeated? Which objectives did we fail to meet? Also, how does that invalidate the over 400 casualties suffered by Seleka?

Uhhhmmm...... Let me think..... Done thinking. NO they don't.


They all state unanimously that you fled!

Seleka did not suffer 400 casualties you classless liar!

* "They suffered 400 casualties yet it was the SANDF elite troops who fled?".

Patchesagain:


C.A.R was not intended to be a combat deployment

Yes it was, as it is on record that your generals begged for APCs and Helicopters from Pretoria to no avail.

Henry240:


Not according to the UN, BBC, AFP, Reuters, Aljazeera, TVC.

Your Special forces got roundly defeated in the CAR.

Clearly you do not know the definition of defeat in war. It was a retreat not defeat. If South African government could have challenged the war and sponsored it fully to achieve their objective, a failure to do so would have amounted to defeat. SA did not have any interest in the politics of the country and their sole mission was to offer training to CAR forces in accordance with the MOU signed by both governments. SA troops only had to defend themselves and save the life of the President of CAR, the mission which they accomplished with bright colours. The coup then signalled the end of MOU between two countries and as well effectively rended it null and void.

Henry240:


Yes it was, as it is on record that your generals begged for APCs and Helicopters from Pretoria to no avail.

That is untrue.

snydergp1st:


Show me anything better than this that your country produces.

There is nothing spectacular in this vehicle. it's just an armoured car with a 30mm cannon. It's just like bragging about mounting a 30mm cannon on a Nigerian army Igirigi APC.

Henry240:


There is nothing spectacular in this vehicle. it's just an armoured car with a 30mm cannon. It's just like bragging about mounting a 30mm cannon on a Nigerian army Igirigi APC.

You know you talking nonsense.

It is way more sophisticated than anything Nigeria has ever produced. Your igiri APC is a piece of cr.ap everyone knows it.

snydergp1st:


You know you talking nonsense.

It is way more sophisticated than anything Nigeria has ever produced. Your igiri APC is a piece of cr.ap everyone knows it.

Why don't you proof it is more than that.



Yeah..... Everyone but the insurgents who are at the receiving end of one of it's 12.7mm barrels!

Henry240:


Why don't you proof it is more than that.



Yeah..... Everyone but the insurgents who are at the receiving end of one of it's 12.7mm barrels!

Need I say more.

http://www.paramountgroup.biz/mbombe.html