dejavski:


Mo ki han oh ogbone mi

Ilaje44:

That's not totally true. Even in Ondo/Ekiti States, not everyone uses "dede". Some use "gede", while some others especially Ekitis use "kete". Ijebu and Ilaje are related, even though Ijebus are not classified among the Southwestern Yoruba dialects. Some Egba names do sound Ilaje to me e.g.: Afuwape.

wytecat:
What is not true in what I said?

You initially went with only those two dialects use 'dede' or at least you didn't bring it up that others like ijebu use the word as well. If you didn't know that Ijebu say 'dede', until others raised it, don't you think that you really don't know how others say it in their dialects?

What is ijebu classified as if not one of southwestern Yoruba dialects?

And one more thing; Are Ilajes Yoruba?

Ilaje44:


The discussion here is about the Ilajes and Itsekiris. The OP said the word is common to both groups, and he was corrected. You said all Yoruba groups use dede which is quite wrong. That's why I said even among the Southeastern (I indeed wrongly wrote Southwestern) Yoruba group, not even all use dede.

Hence, it's not true that all Yoruba Dialects use "dede" as used by the Ilajes, Ikales, Apois etc.

The Yoruba dialectical continuum is linguistically divided into three branches.

The Northwestern Yoruba e.g. Oyo
The central Yoruba e.g. Ife
The southeastern Yoruba e.g. Ilaje

You will find both the aspect of NWY and SEY in central Yoruba, because they are the bridge connecting the other two. If I remember correctly, Ijebu seems to be among the central Yoruba along with Ife.

Why are you asking if Ilajes are Yoruba? I don't partake in the childish and futile ethnic discussions as common on Nairaland. However, I can assure you that Ilajes don't have identity crisis. Oma Olufe a gha rin.
This is embodied in some of our tales too like the story of "Elero":
...
Ufe yi duro ma wi re Ufe
Ufe yi duro ma wi re Ufe
Awa mokanla Elero bi o Ufe
J'Elero wa sa aghan rire rire oma re r'Ufe o Ufe
Ufe gbo temi ma t'ara r'Ufe o Ufe...

Ufe = ule Ufe/ile Ife

IlekeHD:


Ekiti people also call Ife "Ufe".

"Usu" = Isu

"Ule" =Ile.

And I can understand the Ilaje dialect you posted up there.

Ilaje44:


Well, omo baba kan ni kete ria. Oju obo lo kan yato.

IlekeHD:


Is this Ilaje or Ekiti? So cool

Tooto le so o. Omo baba ni a.

Ilaje44:


Ekiti ni mo so o.

Ni ede Ilaje, a ni: Oma iba kan dede wa gha rin...

IlekeHD:


I thought so.

The fact that you can speak Ekiti is cool sha.

TonyeBarcanista:
God Bless Iwere and Ilaje people

dejavski:

God bless the ijaw nation
Up barca!!! I saw what u guys did there....thumbs up
#proudly MUFC

Ilaje44:


A friend of mine of more than 30 years is from Ise-Ekiti. An Ex brother in law is from Ijero. Infact, my niece lives there. Another friend of mine is from Aramoko. Had a short fling with a lady from Ilawe. I have been to Ise, Ado, Ikerre, and passed through Aramoko, Effon among others. I really liked it in Effon Alaiye. Beautiful scenery. Ikerre was a beauty in the old time when Ekiti was still part and parcel of Ondo state. The then Governor, I believe was from Ikerre Ekiti, and he beautified the place. It's been a while since I was in Ekiti. The last time I was there was 2005.

Ilaje44:

Aburo, aiye ma f'uge ke. Wo jeji mi ranti ule. O ti pe yi mo ti je ogolaale ati obe orugbo eyi an fi eja arighon abi okodo ghee. E le!

Ilaje44:


The discussion here is about the Ilajes and Itsekiris. The OP said the word is common to both groups, and he was corrected. You said all Yoruba groups use dede which is quite wrong. That's why I said even among the Southeastern (I indeed wrongly wrote Southwestern) Yoruba group, not even all use dede.

Hence, it's not true that all Yoruba Dialects use "dede" as used by the Ilajes, Ikales, Apois etc.

The Yoruba dialectical continuum is linguistically divided into three branches.

The Northwestern Yoruba e.g. Oyo
The central Yoruba e.g. Ife
The southeastern Yoruba e.g. Ilaje

You will find both the aspect of NWY and SEY in central Yoruba, because they are the bridge connecting the other two. If I remember correctly, Ijebu seems to be among the central Yoruba along with Ife.

Why are you asking if Ilajes are Yoruba? I don't partake in the childish and futile ethnic discussions as common on Nairaland. However, I can assure you that Ilajes don't have identity crisis. Oma Olufe a gha rin.
This is embodied in some of our tales too like the story of "Elero":
...
Ufe yi duro ma wi re Ufe
Ufe yi duro ma wi re Ufe
Awa mokanla Elero bi o Ufe
J'Elero wa sa aghan rire rire oma re r'Ufe o Ufe
Ufe gbo temi ma t'ara r'Ufe o Ufe...

Ufe = ule Ufe/ile Ife

mydex93:
meh gbe nii ya ilaje ooooo...I really dnt knw exactly where we re 4rm in ilaje ooo#coversface#not my fault bur my Dads..he never takes us home..all we jus knw is we are 4rm ilaje in ondo state.

dejavski:

Mo ki han oh ogbone mi

Odunharry:

mokio no.. ogbone Bawo ni

Goodboiyy:


Yep.. the Ijebu dialect is more related to Ilaje and itsekiri

wytecat:
I know it was niger delta lovefest, but the moment Yoruba was mentioned in it, we had to set the record straight.

You still cannot speak for all Yoruba dialect especially when it took others to correct you about ijebu. Ijebu has it, Egba do and I still believe other Yoruba dialects have it but we just have to hear others to know who is right about that.

And where exactly did you say the ijebu dialect falls again?

You should have just said Ilajes are Yoruba or they are NOT instead of the defense route you took. I have my reason for asking and I know what I have believed all along but, wanted to hear from you since we all know how some claim Yoruba when it's convenient and distant themselves when it's not or how some are neither here nor there. The first few posts even suggested Ilaje is different from Yoruba and I didn't see you correct that.

defemidefemi:
is deer diff btw Itsekiri & I jaw?

Odunharry:

You too is united supporter?

GGMU

raphroye:
Ayemafuge Ilaje!!!

mydex93:
o ma han oooo bora mi

IlekeHD:


I thought so.

The fact that you can speak Ekiti is cool sha.

dejavski:


In my opinion yoruba is more like a group of people with mutual relationship that have lived together for a long time in peace and harmony. In other words you cannot call yoruba a tribe. This is because most of these clans do not have common cultural and monarchial heritage.
I haven't come across anywhere in yorubaland where they celebrate Aiyelala or umale or umalokun festival as it's being celebrated here in ilaje.
Same also lies to other dialects such as Owo Ikale and so on.
The only thing you can celebrate general is the Ogun festival which is also celebrated in Benin.
For the monarchical System, the ilaje System was derived from benin Kingdom. The same applies t ikales.
Why didn't we hear of a dominant yoruba Empire in the 14th century up till 19th century? Even the Oyo empire we hear of had its boundaries and territories(google it) it didn't extend to the eastern parts such as ijebus Owos ilajes ikales etc

dejavski:


In my opinion yoruba is more like a group of people with mutual relationship that have lived together for a long time in peace and harmony. In other words you cannot call yoruba a tribe. This is because most of these clans do not have common cultural and monarchial heritage.
I haven't come across anywhere in yorubaland where they celebrate Aiyelala or umale or umalokun festival as it's being celebrated here in ilaje.
Same also lies to other dialects such as Owo Ikale and so on.
The only thing you can celebrate general is the Ogun festival which is also celebrated in Benin.
For the monarchical System, the ilaje System was derived from benin Kingdom. The same applies t ikales.
Why didn't we hear of a dominant yoruba Empire in the 14th century up till 19th century? Even the Oyo empire we hear of had its boundaries and territories(google it) it didn't extend to the eastern parts such as ijebus Owos ilajes ikales etc

dejavski:


Oh for real? That's nice
Do u also have monarch title such as yasere(ayeye owu), Oliha, logbosere, asogbon etc?

I think you also celebrate umale and umalokun festival if am right?

Also we share similar names in some aspect such as: temisan, Temiye, onetufo, Orimisan, onuwaje, ..... I know of an Itsekiri lady that bears similar surname with me... Precious Dede - Super falcons GK

dejavski:


In my opinion yoruba is more like a group of people with mutual relationship that have lived together for a long time in peace and harmony. In other words you cannot call yoruba a tribe. This is because most of these clans do not have common cultural and monarchial heritage.
I haven't come across anywhere in yorubaland where they celebrate Aiyelala or umale or umalokun festival as it's being celebrated here in ilaje.
Same also lies to other dialects such as Owo Ikale and so on.
The only thing you can celebrate general is the Ogun festival which is also celebrated in Benin.
For the monarchical System, the ilaje System was derived from benin Kingdom. The same applies t ikales.
Why didn't we hear of a dominant yoruba Empire in the 14th century up till 19th century? Even the Oyo empire we hear of had its boundaries and territories(google it) it didn't extend to the eastern parts such as ijebus Owos ilajes ikales etc