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Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by fart: 8:23pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
Jarus: For medicals, what are they checking for? If somebody has diabetes is that grounds for regret mail? What are they looking for in medicals? What does it take for Shell to turn down someone over medicals please 2 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Jarus(m): 9:37pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
fart: I don't think they will reject a diabetic. I know a Shell staff that is hepatitic. Not sure of HIV. Maybe people that have highly infectious diseases. All these are still speculations, they don't disclose the ground for medical disqualification. But I have not seen anyone they rejected during medicals. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Jarus(m): 9:39pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
sparklebaby: Very unfair. It happened to 2 of my friends. |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by cc150615(f): 9:54pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
Jarus:I have seen 2 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by fart: 10:02pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
cc150615: What were they rejected for? |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by cc150615(f): 10:05pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
fart:No coy ever specifies, they just send a normal regret mail |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Huw(m): 11:48pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
sparklebaby:You can say that again... What they do is invite qualified candidates from different field of study just to make it clear they offered equal chances to every one and to make a point that the recruitment was just and fair but even before the interview,they already know whom they're recruiting. My opinion though. |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by scarplanet(m): 2:53am On Nov 22, 2015 |
cc150615: And you attributed the regret mail to failing medicals? A number of other non-Medicals related factors could have resulted into the regret mail, you think not so? |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by scarplanet(m): 2:54am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Huw: Your opinion is solely yours; it's not necessarily a true reflection of how Shell recruits. I stand to disagree with you though 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by cc150615(f): 4:48am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Huw:Now that's soo not true |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by cc150615(f): 4:48am On Nov 22, 2015 |
scarplanet:That I can't say, I only know that the mail came after medicals |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Jamean(f): 5:46am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Huw: It's good you added it's your "opinion though" There's no charge for being optimistic.. I know people in O&G who got in via fair play.. Ideologies like this is why Nigeria is in its current position 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Nobody: 7:30am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Jamean:He said 'in his opinion' so there was no need for ur last statement I.e 'ideologies like this...' U will agree wit me that with the rot in the Nigeria system it only takes the grace of God to get anything on merit, so don't blame any one who reasons in that direction. But in fairness to shell I think their recruitment is based strictly on merit. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Jarus(m): 7:35am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Huw: This mindset is very toxic. This is the reason why many Nigerian grads are still unemployed. I have a good number of friends that got Shell jobs - in Nigeria and abroad - and they all have one thing in common - they're hot! Brilliant guys. One was my childhood friend and best WAEC candidate inn Kwara state in my set. Another was the best student in my class in the university. Very brilliant guy from modest family. Another was the best student in my department in the set immediately preceding mine - arguably the most brilliant Social Science student I have ever come across. Too many examples. A guy we lived in the same room when we came to Lagos to look for job and I was the one that even gave him N500 for transport etc. Guys, pls perish that mindset, Shell gives you job if you're brilliant and are able to prove it at the SRD (and probably lucky too - given the post-wait list dropping possibility) 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Jarus(m): 7:39am On Nov 22, 2015 |
I have a friend that got his own feedback within 1 hour after the assessment. He told them he was considering another offer and wanted prompt feedback. He had just left the SRD venue and was at the airport when he got the call. They told him that was the best SRD performance they had seen in many years. He turned down their offer twice, asking for raise in the amount they offered him, it was after the second raise that they said they can't raise it again and he accepted. That's for Shell US. He's a Nigerian, my childhood friend. He has PhD though. He was 29 then. He's been with Shell since then. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Poch: 7:57am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Jarus: I'm quite disappointed to see this statement from a 'presumed' experienced person/mentor like u. What is toxic about that writer's mindset? Is Shell recruitment not one of the only FEW coys that base their selection on merit? What about others? Should I begin to name them? Especially the indigenous firms? The reason for grad unemployment in this country aside from unavailability of jobs is the rot in the recruitment processes...all over the country! It's not a toxic mindset, it's a fact! Many thanks to shell and others who strive for a better option...even though one still can't take learning points from an unsuccessful process itself...as they don't give hints on why you failed the process. They just slam you with a regret mail without reason! Many thanks also to nairalanders for helping us manufacture these reasons shell refused to give us. 9 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Jamean(f): 8:02am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Thank you Jarus If not for anything, but for the examples of possibilities I smh for the mentality of Nigerian youths. What I can conclude from their premises is that later in life when they are on the other side of the continuum they won't deal on fair play and merit. To those who thrive and believe, blessed are you for there shall a performance of your belief. |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by spicyuzo(m): 8:18am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Jarus: Someday, Someone shall tell a similar story like this about me, and I shall reminisce on this day in thanksgiving to God for making my dreams come true. Thanks to you Mr. Jarus for your unflinching support to our course, may the good Lord continue to strengthen you immensely. 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by dazzlingd(m): 8:30am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Jarus: haba Mr Jarus.... don't make it seem like shell is interested in applicants with the most extraordinary academic results.. although that is an added advantage but it's not a compulsory criteria. I know those who made it to shell and not because they had extraordinary results as u described but because they displayed the qualities that shell desired at the srd... 3 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Jarus(m): 8:35am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Poch: Yes, the mindset is toxic. Mindset ruins. It is called defeatist mindset: going to a war with the mentality that you cannot win! It will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. The company doesn't matter, if you approach any recruitment with the mindset that your efforts won't count, you will likely not make it. The fact that the recruitment process of many companies are not merit-driven doesn't mean you cannot get job. You can't tell me, everyone that works in, say GTB, knows someone in GTB. Look at the people that got job by merit and get motivated, rather than whine that you cannot get. Look at the cup as half-full. Without any proof or example, the guy just came to "lampoon" Shell recruitment process. That is toxic. It can kill the morale of many people. And it is not true. I have worked in the oil and gas industry all my almost 10 years career. Even in NNPC that is a govt corporation, I see friends - brilliant friends - get job there without knowing anyone. One of them I brought to Lagos and accommodated during NYSC. He didn't know anyone. He had never stepped into Lagos before. But he was brilliant. If you're brilliant (and admittedly lucky too, in some cases) you will get job. It is very wrong to discourage people. People should stop whining. I have a friend that, during my service year in Sokoto, he spent all the one year trying tgo get Sultan do a letter for him to take to NNPC. If he had spent that energy on reading the NYSC recruitment requirements, he could have done better. But he had believed his efforts cannot count and he can't get job without Sultan's letter. 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Jarus(m): 8:47am On Nov 22, 2015 |
dazzlingd: I got your point. It is not their academic qualifications that got them the job. I just cited their past academic performance as proof of their consistent brilliance. Smart is the better word to use, I admit. They were very smart. In addition, don't be intimidated by schools. I have seen a guy whose only qualification is Bsc from Bauchi Uuniversity (obviously not a first-tier uni in Nigeria) and passed SRD. He competed with guys coming from top schools in the UK and US, some with double masters, some with Phd sef. SRD is a leveller. 4 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by emmahoney(m): 8:53am On Nov 22, 2015 |
This thread is becoming more interesting to me! 3 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Adortem: 9:15am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Please I need answers,after my second assesment(Decision making and Problem Solving) I got an application under review email response,is it true some people already got a success mail? How long will it take to get a reliable response(success or regret email) and what is next after this,telephone interview or Shell Recruitment Day? |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by ProudOlodo: 9:39am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Adortem: From what I've been seeing on the thread so far, what pple have been referring to as "success mail" is exactly what u got. Don't get worried over that. I guess the next stage will be d phone interview. U may read back to verify. It's been mentioned in previous posts |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Poch: 9:45am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Your point is very clear Everything you've stated is obvious. But my issue is you trying to be a motivational/inspirational speaker...rather than a realist. Virtually everyone here who applied for this job would put in EVERY OF THEIR BEST to do all right things in getting the job...except for the few that don't even bother to know the meaning of SRD but have written all tests. Many people here research and study day and night on recruitment best practices... Some of us have come across ur website and read ur stuffz...pretty good stuff... But please be a realist! I've read ur own story...you are also fortunate(whether u believe it or not)... Don't think it's cos of your (smartness/brilliance/intelligence) that made u get 2 offers from IOCs immediately after service... There is always an element of luck and fortune to reckon with. Now, immediately after ur service, and working in IOCs, you have probably not been exposed to recruitment procedures in 'Nigeria'... That's probably why you can sit in the comfort of ur room, with a cozy tablet or laptop and try take away reality from people. Some facts: 1. Spdc is just one amongst millions of coys that recruit...have you considered what gets in the other 99.9% of firms? 2. You mention NNPC... If I tell u what goes down in NNPC... You would be ashamed to mention them here. If truly ur friend is there, and u guys communicate as regards recruitment issues, I'm sure you won't be proud to mention that coy here. 3. It is true that no coy would see a top-notch, excellent candidate and not kill for his/her services... (I'm a personal testimony as I am currently with an indigenous E&P coy by virtue of an outstanding performance- when given the opportunity to)--But how many percent of Nigerian graduates belong to that category? How many percent of Nigerian grads are given the opportunity to show what they are made of? Not everyone would be top-notch, brilliantly smart! So what happens to the just averagely smart guys? They are back in the pool of the corrupt system...where people resume work everyday...by recommendation from one minister, governor or the likes... While deserving graduates are on Nairaland listening to a motivational speaker saying things they have no experience in. I'm not here to kill people's morale...all I'm saying is that you don't have the right slander someone with the term "toxic mindset"... When all he did was say what gets in his version of Nigeria! It's obvious your own version of Nigeria is a very perfect one without corruption in the system Jarus: 20 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by MistaBlack: 10:08am On Nov 22, 2015 |
ayomide02: How long after completing the second stage did you get the reply? |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Jarus(m): 10:27am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Poch: I have never said there's no 'leg' in recruitment process. It is, and yes, quite rampant. So should we now because of this not encourage them to put in their efforts? No. Encourage people. Tell them their efforts can count. Don't write off their chances because they don't know anyone. It is not as bad as portrayed by people. Someone just entered thread and said "Shell have already known the people the people they wanted to take" regardless of performance in SRD. Apart from the fact that it is wrong, it is demoralizing. And you cannot tell me every single person in NNPC got the job through a letter from minister or any other VIP. I told you the case of someone I brought to Lagos and accommodated who got NNPC job without knowing anyone. His brilliance and smartness worked for him. We lived under the same roof. It is left for anyone to say whatever they want to say, but going to a war with the mindset that your effort will not count is dangerous, and telling people that is toxic. 14 Likes |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by ilori1930(m): 10:42am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Jarus: Lovely! 1 Like |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by Rebeni: 10:46am On Nov 22, 2015 |
A Research Project on the Recruitment & Selection Process of the Shell Group Company http://www.123helpme.com/human-resource-areas-of-the-shell-group-companies-view.asp?id=150461 |
Re: Apply For 2015/2016 Shell Petroleum Graduate Programme by henrydsenator: 10:48am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Mr Jarus you are so damn right,some peeps are just pessimist and dream killers,how can you say shell has already selected the peeps they would take before the SRD,i have a friend also, who doesn't know any body in shell but got a job in shell after going through SRD. Please let's learn to have a positive mind set. I run away from friends who are always pessimistic about life,because I believe they are toxic. 4 Likes |
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