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Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by Elslim: 7:57am On Nov 22, 2015 |
KRILMIJAY:U r a waste of Sperm D dogy style dat brouth u to Life should be aired on TV so dat people can avoid it.. If u don't have anytin good to say STFU! 1 Like |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by anthony86(m): 7:57am On Nov 22, 2015 |
All these probe does not change the fact that fuel still sells for as much as. #200 across the country and power situation is worsening. |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by QuotaSystem: 7:58am On Nov 22, 2015 |
My friend, nothing you say can change the fact that hundreds of thousands of lives have been needlessly lost to the massive corruption under GEJ through arm purchase scams, and he with his NSA Dasuki MUST defend the heavy allegations against them or bear the full consequences of directly or indirectly sponsoring terror and Boko Haram like the former NSA, Late Azazi alleged before he was assassinated. E don set. Pavarottii: |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by porka: 7:59am On Nov 22, 2015 |
So how much is Buhari actually looking for now on this one? $2.2b 'looted' from arms deals or, $1b arms loan? Who is helping Buhari with his various calculations? He doesn't seem to have got any one right since. They claimed $2.2b was 'stolen' as usual. Jonathan wonders where such money would come from. In order to prove their hypothesis, they suddenly remember a $1b loan. Unfortunately again, it's 'looking like' the loan was not actually drawn-down. So we are back to 'square-one'. They want to invite people again to come and explain to them what they can easily get from their own records. That is the money they already told us has been stolen. The money they already published in their media outlets that is stolen. That's what they want to invite people to come and explain again. Maybe that's why they don't want to charge Dasuki to court so we can have the opportunity to know more. It's high time Buhari's fixation on imaginary 'zillions' missing was stopped. He thought he would meet the whole world in the treasury, but was surprised that he has probably been on concentrated hallucinogen. But instead of him to calmly face the reality, he reasoned that the monies must have been 'stolen', hence the various 'probes' with humongous figures bandied around. And he has been on a wild-goose-chase ever since. By 'dishing' out these extraordinarily large figures, they hope to keep the minds of their worshippers away form the current economic realities but unfortunately the economy is dangerously hanging in the balance. And when the hypnosis wears off, it's not going to be palatable. |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by porka: 8:02am On Nov 22, 2015 |
QuotaSystem: Take them to court. So that we can have the benefit of knowing the 'hundreds of thousands of lives' lost and who killed them. 'Nothing you say' here can substitute a court trial. |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by QuotaSystem: 8:06am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Are you unable to see that delaying the process is the subject of the article itself? Who is asking for extra time? Buhari or Dasuki? Read before commenting next time. porka: 1 Like |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by SonOfEl(m): 8:11am On Nov 22, 2015 |
arsetalks: Mumu, when the likes of tinubu, babangida, abdrusalam, otedola, who are the real thieves, are still moving around as free big men. Keep deluding yourself. |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by Maxcollins042(m): 8:19am On Nov 22, 2015 |
He is seeking for more time from the comission to cook and package concrete lies which he will present to the comission during grilling. 1 Like |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by porka: 8:28am On Nov 22, 2015 |
QuotaSystem: No, you look well. (That's if you know what a 'subject of an article' means.) The subject of the propaganda is the theatrics around $1b arms loan. It went on to say some other people (former government officials) will be invited for questioning. Maybe you need your glasses upgraded. It's probably weak. And the subject of your bitter response is the 'hundreds of thousands of lives' lost, which must be accounted for. You can only account for them in the court. No where else. 1 Like |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by IbokUtoroh(m): 8:31am On Nov 22, 2015 |
PassingShot: shouldnt the president also be probing the people who instigated and escalated this issue when they swear that they will make the country ungovernable for gej after losing the elections? so must we always leave the root and attack the branches? the money in question is huge but I think the president shud also beam his searchlight on who fuel the crisis in that region. must we be buying arms to eliminate people everytime, money that shud be channeled to development n infrastructure. 1 Like |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by wirinet(m): 8:39am On Nov 22, 2015 |
porka: Buhari himself does not yet know the total amount allegedly stolen or misappropriated by the last administration, the ministries and parastatals are many, NNPC, Defense, Pensions, customs, etc; and most of them did not audit their accounts for many years. how the defense budgets had been spent is still a mystery to this new government, the records don't just add up. The government is trying to ascertain which loans they are liable for. The defense budget for most of Jonathan's tenure averages 1 trillion naira (over $5 billion) yearly. What was done with it, and where are the inventories of the Equipments bought? Below is the defense budget from 2008 to 2013; 2008: N 444.6 billion (Umar Yar’Adua) 2009: N 233 billion (Umar Yar’Adua) 2010: N 264 (Umar Yar’Adua) 2011: N 348 billion (Goodluck Jonathan) 2012: N 921.91 billion (Goodluck Jonathan) 2013:N1.055 trillion (Goodluck Jonathan) 2014: N968 billion (Goodluck Jonathan) - See more at: http://www.nigerianobservernews.com/2015/01/11/budget-nigerian-ministry-defence-need-accountability/#sthash.WvOQMV72.d8E5D2OP.dpuf Jonathan spent over 3.5 trillion naira on defense ( over over 18 billion dollars) not minding the alleged $1billion loan. Is it out of place for the new government and Nigerians in general to ask how these monies were spent?
Various committees he had inaugurated, EFCC, and others. If the national assembly was not so useless, they too should be investigating how close to $20 billions were spent on defense in five years and our military is still ill equipped. He doesn't seem to have got any one right since. 1 Like |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by PassingShot(m): 8:39am On Nov 22, 2015 |
IbokUtoroh:You go fear reasoning nah! So, make Buhari investigate people wey promise to make Nigeria ungovernable for Jonathan when Jonathan couldn't do anything about them but later became his close pals? I no get time for your kind of logic abeg. 2 Likes |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by Pavarottii(m): 8:41am On Nov 22, 2015 |
QuotaSystem:See this comedian, ur prayer is for GEJ to face consequences. Better wake up from ur sleep. Sure u typed this from the dream. Any hand laid on GEJ, for once, u will see that this country can be truly put on standstill... u r taking his followers gentility for granted? Any single hand laid on GEJ. Nigeria will surely divide. And they will be no oil to run dis country. Quote me anywhere. |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by wirinet(m): 8:43am On Nov 22, 2015 |
IbokUtoroh: Are you listening to yourself? You want Buhari to investigate and prosecute people who threatened to make the country ungovernable for Jonathan. should that not have been the responsibility of Jonathan when he was the president? 2 Likes |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by QuotaSystem: 8:44am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Rubbish. Reports from the Presidency stated that documents detailing the unaccounted expenditure of over $2 billion between 2007 and 2014 on arms have been reviewed by the arms purchases probe panel as contained in its interim report. Furthermore, Dasuki himself has admitted receiving acknowledgement of delivery letters of untraceable purchased arms from GEJ's service chiefs. Hence those funds were released and assumed to have been spent. Monies that have now been denied to have been approved by the same GEJ. The $1 billion you refer to was applied for at the tail end of the last administration and is now also being investigated by the panel. You're only grasping at straws now that the world is about to be reminded of GEJ's incompetence, corruption, and possible culpability in the massacre of thousands of his own citizens. If you're confused, seek clarification and avoid peddling ignorance in public. porka: 2 Likes |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by QuotaSystem: 8:57am On Nov 22, 2015 |
My friend keep quiet, Asari Dokubo promised bombs if GEJ lost but is he not now screaming for freedom alongside misguided touts? Noisemakers. Your idol himself is busy running helter skelter trying to sort out the embarrassing contradiction of his statement with that of his NSA's confident submission (wielding acknowledgement letters) while you're here forming jobless abobaku for him. Dasuki has warned them that he will squeal and Jonathan's denial will only catalyze the process. E don set. Pavarottii: 3 Likes |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by Keegan: 9:01am On Nov 22, 2015 |
menix: Senseless! |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by porka: 9:03am On Nov 22, 2015 |
QuotaSystem: Now it's clear you need a psychologist (perhaps a psychiatrist) more than a pair eye glasses. The article is reproduced verbatim below; Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by Keegan: 9:15am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Pavarottii: You are a BIG FOOL. 2 Likes |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by arsetalks(m): 9:32am On Nov 22, 2015 |
SonOfEl:Look into the mirror and you will find the mumu there. PDP spent 16 years in government, how come they did not probe the aforementioned? Off course you can't know, you are too dense to know. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by Nobody: 9:37am On Nov 22, 2015 |
all these our yeye media outlets sef
i doubt GEJ with the level of integrity following him now,will be indicted.
EndTime incompetent Government with their EndTime confused public...sshhiiooo |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by SonOfEl(m): 9:45am On Nov 22, 2015 |
arsetalks: Your hypocrisy is legendary. Was ANPP, APC, CPC, etc not represented in these 16 years dispensation? Yet why are the people still suffering? Kano, kebbi, jigawa, osun etc all had governors and federal representatives and senators, what did they do? Hypocrites! |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by QuotaSystem: 9:55am On Nov 22, 2015 |
How does reposting the article change the confusion you were ravaged with regarding the new contention over the $1billion? Or does it change the fact that GEJ has roped himself into a fix with his denial despite Dasuki's assertion that acknowledgement letters were received for funds he claims were unapproved. Next time read to understand and not to wail. porka: |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by arsetalks(m): 10:03am On Nov 22, 2015 |
SonOfEl:Arguing with you is a waste of my knowledge. If those states are suffering, isn't it the failing of the federal government? PDP ruled for 16 years, if those states' governors made their people suffer, who controls Efcc? ICPC? |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by Gbawe: 10:11am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Some of us are now vindicated. We warned that everything GEJ and his associates were doing, including the $1 billion 'midnight' loan, would be exposed as fraudulent after the PDP is defeated. The deceit, lack of transparency and scamming nature of the GEJ government is just puke-inducing. Now they are even saying it is unclear whether the $1 billion was released of not. Anyway, those of us who saw this coming and even predicted it are enjoying the 'show' currently. ![]() ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/1829483/gbajabiamila-rejects-jonathans-1billion-loan/2 Gbawe: 3 Likes |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by porka: 10:55am On Nov 22, 2015 |
wirinet: Good insight there. Asking questions from those who have been given leadership responsibility is a very important tenet of democracy. So also is giving them the chance of responding to the questions. After the response, people are normally taken to court for diligent prosecution if the answers are not satisfactory. At the court, the accused are given further opportunity to defend themselves, and the public is afforded the benefit of hearing what they have to say. If the judges are satisfied with the defense the accused are discharged and acquitted, if not, they are convicted. The process is very simple and not so complicated. Nigerians are waiting for the outcomes of the 'various committees' works. We are also waiting for proper judicial processes to commence. And yes, the national assembly has disappointingly not lived up to its expectations in the arms expenditure probe. What we have seen so far, however, is the workings of the 'various committees' thrown to the media in the most vicious manner, akin to prosecution and passing a conviction, which the 'various committees' lack the power to do. Then when the 'various committees' have 'completed' their public 'prosecution and conviction', a SECRET trial would be proposed in the court. (A SECRET trial of what the 'various committees' have publicly investigated?) How do you react to that? It's in Buhari administration's interest not to make budgetary figures' comparison alone as the basis of its probes. That would be taking their assumptions too far. While it's the first place to start the questions, it's just a guide and may not represent the final figure spent. As you may know, budgetary provisions are just estimates. They don't represent the actual amount spent. Maybe that's where the problem lies. Budgetary implementation has never been hundred percent, especially the capital expenditure. Even at that, any critical mind taking your quoted budgetary figures holistically would know that the 'ungovernable' Boko Haram strategy intensified in those years that the figures spiked. One would be completely out of his/her mind to say Buhari or Nigerians should not ask questions from past administrations officials. And he has been asking, even though some of them are not questions but outright judgment passed on people 'presumed innocent' until proven guilty by a court. But no one should be under any grand illusion that Buhari can't be asked questions as well. We are in a democracy, we will continue to ask Buhari questions. Be that as it may, we would like to make comparison between the over N2bn that Buhari's spokesman admitted that they have actually spent on the presidential fleet in less than 6 months and the actual amount spent for the entire 2014 (a total of 12 months) on the same presidential fleet. We would also call on the national assembly to promptly commence an investigation into the alleged 'missing' and 're-appearance' of about 105 Nigerian soldiers. |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by porka: 11:01am On Nov 22, 2015 |
QuotaSystem: You need a physician. I consider it immoral for me to keep on a conversation with an unbalanced person, since I am not a doctor. Go and treat yourself. |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by SonOfEl(m): 11:36am On Nov 22, 2015 |
arsetalks: Dude shut up if you have no valid point to make. What model or policy did your party give when they were in opposition? Wasn't it the same money laundering that went on in all the states? The only difference was who keeps the cash cow.....you are a hypocrite. |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by QuotaSystem: 11:42am On Nov 22, 2015 |
Keep pretending to be obstinate while reality plasters your face with slaps ![]() porka: |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by menix(m): 1:26pm On Nov 22, 2015 |
Keegan: Coming from a senseless calculator.. |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by Nobody: 1:31pm On Nov 22, 2015 |
menix:End time calculator. |
Re: Arms Deals: Fresh Controversy Over $1b Loan Approved For Jonathan-The Nation by menix(m): 1:40pm On Nov 22, 2015 |
Oyind17: That guy just mumu like him maths teacher for primary school.m If no b say I just comot from church, u know what I can do to him.. |
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