Mosesm:


Leopard is amotekun Tiger is Ekun. Fox is kolokolo.

Ghost01:
Izzatso? Heard they are today one of the ruling houses on the Island?

ProfShymex:
MayorofLagos

Sir, I saw a question you asked Katsumoto yesterday about what started Kiriji wars. And I know Katsumoto also highlighted his fears on this thread about folks re-igniting old rivalries in a Yoruba country.

So, I think folks who know a lot on the background story about the Kiriji wars need to educate us on what started the wars and highlight what made the war a war of rivalry - and not a war caused by the power vacuum created by the collapse of Oyo.

Personally, based on my scholarship thus far: I think the wars had more to do with power vacuum and if Oyo hadn't collapsed, there would've never been Kiriji wars. And that's not synonymous with Yorubas alone - it happened in all ancient cultures and folks moved on after power was restored. When the Roman empire collapsed - it also created a power vacuum everywhere the Roman ruled. Internecine wars became the order of the day. England is a classic example and all the wars fought by the different invaders, albeit from the same ethnic group/stock, exemplifies that. Heck, even the Saxons fought amongst themselves. However, once they were able to formulate one general language and fall under one control system - everyone got along perfectly.

cc: aareonakakanfo/cabbieAC

OnReflection:


There is a lot of evidence that supports your very first post.

I've got some Nupe ancestry by way of a great-grandmother (on the father's side), so I always keep an eye out for any useful material.

"Aiye gba Tapa, o kole Igunnu" - Out of complacency in Oshodi Lagos, they established a masquerade (Interesting take here: Census 2006 Counts Some Out Of Lagos Again -- http://www.gamji.com/article5000/NEWS5769.htm).

Aljharem's backgrounder, which was culled from a website that has now gone offline, also provides some illumination....

MayorofLagos:
You brought out the goose, on a Sunday??
Looks good too!

superduperjay:
OnReflection my friend is an oshodi and she told me her ancestors were from niger state I actually thought she was joking oo.

OnReflection:


The "unknown known" eh? Now you know better

MayorofLagos:


The site was taken'down due to controversial revisions. Everyone is embellishing their history nowadays. Some of the descendants are claiming that Landuji Oshodi was a Nupe prince.

Oshodi-Tapa Wasn't a Slave of Oba Kosoko, Says Family

6 May 2015

By Ikechukwu Onyewuchi

THE Oshodi-Tapa Chieftaincy family has refuted claims in the media that its patriarch, Chief Landuji Balogun Oshodi, was a slave of Oba Kosoko.

The family was reacting to a publication on December 29, 2014, by Damola Awoyokun titled Lagos, Slave Trade and Founding Fathers (1), where the author claimed, among other things, that Chief Oshodi-Tapa was a slave of Oba Kosoko.

According to Awoyokun, "Prince Kosoko, who was Oba Eshinlokun's son, did not wait to be King before becoming a major slave trader. Princess Opo Olu, Kosoko's sister owned 1400 slaves. Oshodi Tapa, Dada Antonio and Ojo Akanbi, like Ajayi Crowther, were former slaves, but unlike Crowther, they rose to become merchants themselves."

But the family, in a statement insisted that the author erred, as historical facts showed that Chief Oshodi-Tapa was a prince, who rose to relevance in Lagos during the reign of Oba Eshinlokun, the father of Oba Kosoko, after having migrated from Bida in present day Niger State and later placed to oversee security in the inner section of the palace.

They said: "As a matter of historical fact, Chief Landuji Balogun Oshodi had, long before the coming of Kosoko as Oba of Lagos, established himself as a notable figure in Lagos. The coming into Lagos was during the reign of Oba Eshinlokun, the father of King Kosoko.

aljharem:


Rather than give credit to the person that posted this you ave credit to Onerepublic

O kin se omo iya

ProfShymex:

Lmao @ Kuwait. That's a next continent.
How soon can you get to London Town?

Mosesm:


Leopard is amotekun Tiger is Ekun. Fox is kolokolo.

9jacrip:



Brilliant sir/ma!

E jo egba.

OnReflection:
You may recall that I did say, the Nupes are a rather ambitious lot.

KinkyAngela:
So one mans opinion/suggestion/proposition has now given you the carte blance to sterotype a whole tribe.

He be like say una wan make i help una scatter this thread

KinkyAngela:
So one mans opinion/suggestion/proposition has now given you the carte blance to sterotype a whole tribe.

He be like say una wan make i help una scatter this thread

Missy89:


London not on my mind for now

OnReflection:


Yes, I read about that particular fissure. You may recall that I did say, the Nupes are a rather ambitious lot.
It is one thing to dispute a historical account that locates Oshodi-Tapa as a slave but quite another to ascribe to imperial leanings, in the absence of veritable proof.

Thankfully though, despite what is widely seen as an attempt to whitewash the past, they have made no attempt to declare Lagos "no man's land".

ProfShymex:


Well, let them continue and they'll keep failing like they've been failing for decades now with mediocre players.

MayorofLagos:


Who was the author?

OnReflection:

Bruv, based on anecdotal observation, I would argue that Nupe folks are more territorial and ambitious than people recognise. Although largely disenfranchised within the current federal structure, I find their hussle admirable.
In fact, I recall once repping a thread on these boards - where they laid claim to being the fourth most populous ethnic group in the country.

Now while I have always acknowledged that bit of my ancestry and responded to any misdirected missives (when I am propelled by unidentified Nupe warrior genes), it was with some alarm that I read Abdullahi's revisionist account of history (copied in below). On reading the sections I highlighted, I had little choice but to summon the cavalry - Abdullahi had taken chicanery too far. Check out the way he negated Ife's contributions to the art and tell me you are not similarly offended.

forgiveness:


But it pains me a lot as a soccer fan of the National team to see us always failing when I know we can do better with better and tested players.

CabbieAC:


I think Olaitan has been invited before.Still need to confirm tho

Not the biggest fan of Funsho Ojo after watching some videos but he's okay regardless

All in all, lets wait and see.I don't want to paste the tribalist tag on Oliseh yet

He hasn't spent up to 1 year

We're watching

OnReflection:


Yes, I read about that particular fissure. You may recall that I did say, the Nupes are a rather ambitious lot.
It is one thing to dispute a historical account that locates Oshodi-Tapa as a slave but quite another to ascribe to imperial leanings, in the absence of veritable proof.

Thankfully though, despite what is widely seen as an attempt to whitewash the past, they have made no attempt to declare Lagos "no man's land".

tupacshakur:



Shymmex, you sure ain't gonna put a brother in deep sh!t.

Married women? Magun is real, you know! Death is sure, no doubt, but I don't wish to exit the world via that route.

Henceforth, there's gonna be an extensive audit and background check (via checking of posts on Nairaland) on all potential chics before making moves on them.

tupacshakur:
Has anyone else noticed that this thread is exactly a month old today, 22/11/2015.

Just a month and it's going on 300 pages.

Aareonakakanfo, waa gbayi, baba!

Chop knuckle! You too much!

One bottle of Hennessy VSOP for you.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3103724_hennessy2copy_jpeg346cc25250dcd997c2a575adfbe141ed

aljharem:


Rather than give credit to the person that posted this you ave credit to Onerepublic

O kin se omo iya

OnReflection:


Yes, I read about that particular fissure. You may recall that I did say, the Nupes are a rather ambitious lot.
It is one thing to dispute a historical account that locates Oshodi-Tapa as a slave but quite another to ascribe to imperial leanings, in the absence of veritable proof.

Thankfully though, despite what is widely seen as an attempt to whitewash the past, they have made no attempt to declare Lagos "no man's land".

CabbieAC:


Lmaaooo I think I've heard of the Dapo character but I still believe we're talking about different characters

Eleko Agba awo leyin.e je ki a ma tan ra wa

Speaking of Lawanson,I used to play in that huge field close to Jubril martins, can't remember the name now

Back then me and my crew, we would trek from Akerele side to that field. ti a ba n pada bo, ese wa ma ti dudu

I remember my mother coming there to look for me once She sent me on errand and after waiting for me for a long time, she started looking for me in every field I always played Egba ni mumsy fi le mi kuro

I played in Obele as well.I spent part of my childhood there

Then I played in that field inside New era and Ideal girls as well

Ilaje44:


Tigers have never been native to Afrika. Leopard is Ekun, Amotekun should be cheetah, while ikoko should be hyena.

ProfShymex:
US college soccer prospect for 2016 rankings:

- Matthew Olosunde (ranked number 3 - 2016 class)
- Nathaniel Adamolekun (ranked number 17 - 2016 class)
- Mason Toye (ranked number 61 - 2016 class)
- Aquinas Akinlosotu (ranked number 88 - 2016 class)
- Tunde Akinlosotu (ranked number 92 - 2016 class)

forgiveness:


Hmm! interesting. What does the rankings means?